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So, you kept pressing her...because you knew, all along...and you still married her. She wasn't pregnant when you married her, was she?
I trustrd her. I had to or eslk awsy. Btw. When i married her all she had told me was she went home with gfs. There was nothing about an ex involved.. what so ever...
 

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Years ago...b4 marriage.. dated 3 years..then we were on a break... she dated 2 frat guys from her college on the break. One asked the other if he could ask her out... about a month each..

but we went out on a saturday night. We were drinking at the bar ... her ex stops by...At 11pm.. we went to bathroom. When i got out ahe was gone.

Vanished. The next day she told me ahe went home with her gfs at the bar bc she was mad at me...

Then years later.. after marriage and kids she admitted that she left with the frat guys and her gf...

Then. This march she admitted that she left with just the frat guys... but she contends she never slept with them. When they were dating. Or that saturday night when were on a break..
Feel u man

Before you go anywhere farther keep in mind

You know who she is, she dont know that you know

Dont open things with her, stay here until you relaxed enough, have enough info and have the power to deal with it COLD (this is what they respect and afraid)
 

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Feel u man

Before you go anywhere farther keep in mind

You know who she is, she dont know that you know

Dont open things with her, stay here until you relaxed enough, have enough info and have the power to deal with it COLD (this is what they respect and afraid)
Get closer with your kids as well
 

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Feel u man

Before you go anywhere farther keep in mind

You know who she is, she dont know that you know

Dont open things with her, stay here until you relaxed enough, have enough info and have the power to deal with it COLD (this is what they respect and afraid)
Thats true. They only respect ut cold. Hell. What do you think she wouldve done to me if id done the same to her..... she wouldve kicked me to the curb.
 

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Get closer with your kids as well
Yes. I have. Shes noticed it and says im brainwashing them. She said 2 years ago, the kids wouldn't even choose to ride with just me... but now they all choose me...
Shes concerned, jealous
 

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Dude, you obviously think she is. You have that thought for q reason. Investigate.
 

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Hence the online dating situation.

it was interesting watching the effects of this sort of stuff on a female friend of mine as it was happening.

1. Aloof (but not THAT aloof) chad type guy uses her for sex. He put in a decent amount of effort.

2. Her hamster is going absolutely nuts from his mixed signals even when I flat out told her that he was not actually that attracted to her and just using her for sex because that's what guys like that do online. She was trying to run game on him and trying to get him to commit.

3. She later admitted to me that I was right, because he admitted it to her lol

4. Even with all of the above, she STILL viewed this as an ego boost and became entitled. at the same time she has a long distance boyfriend that is a complete beta in every way and lives in his parents basement.

5. As you can see, it isn't so much the beta guys that are getting squeezed out by this new trend but more so the hybrid guys in between. There's still a market for controllable beta guys.
I see
 

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Dude, you obviously think she is. You have that thought for q reason. Investigate.
Yep. I am. Im digging through stuff. Out of the blue recently she decides she wants to put everything behind us and move forward...bc its all about me and her.

It feels either like a trap or i was getting too close to the truth and she got scared
 

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It's funny that women don't realize how worthless they are to many men (those with options). They feel important as soon as they receive the artificial attention those men give them for a short period of time, to f*ck them. Obviously, the more attractive a woman is, the more artificial attention she gets. Hell, even ugly women get more attention than an average looking man.

Just pay attention to this cycle: nice guy gets a shot at hot woman. She seems to love him. They're happy, although she makes most of the decisions in the relationship. She tries to change her behavior (sleeping with a new man every other week). Soon she feels unsignificant and inhibited in this new relationship. She doesn't party. She doesn't need to. Men hit her up on social media all the time. And when her validation-attraction-barometer shows a low enough pressure, she'll take the bait and f*ck a novelty.

She had sex with him to feel good about herself and be validated, he had sex with her to shoot a load.
Well said. I see what u mean
 

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It's funny that women don't realize how worthless they are to many men (those with options). They feel important as soon as they receive the artificial attention those men give them for a short period of time, to f*ck them. Obviously, the more attractive a woman is, the more artificial attention she gets. Hell, even ugly women get more attention than an average looking man.

Just pay attention to this cycle: nice guy gets a shot at hot woman. She seems to love him. They're happy, although she makes most of the decisions in the relationship. She tries to change her behavior (sleeping with a new man every other week). Soon she feels unsignificant and inhibited in this new relationship. She doesn't party. She doesn't need to. Men hit her up on social media all the time. And when her validation-attraction-barometer shows a low enough pressure, she'll take the bait and f*ck a novelty.

She had sex with him to feel good about herself and be validated, he had sex with her to shoot a load.
Yeh. I think you are right. She sometimes needs reassurance shes hot... and she gets it from guys attention.
 

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It's funny that women don't realize how worthless they are to many men (those with options). They feel important as soon as they receive the artificial attention those men give them for a short period of time, to f*ck them. Obviously, the more attractive a woman is, the more artificial attention she gets. Hell, even ugly women get more attention than an average looking man.

Just pay attention to this cycle: nice guy gets a shot at hot woman. She seems to love him. They're happy, although she makes most of the decisions in the relationship. She tries to change her behavior (sleeping with a new man every other week). Soon she feels unsignificant and inhibited in this new relationship. She doesn't party. She doesn't need to. Men hit her up on social media all the time. And when her validation-attraction-barometer shows a low enough pressure, she'll take the bait and f*ck a novelty.

She had sex with him to feel good about herself and be validated, he had sex with her to shoot a load.
"Hell, even ugly women get more attention than an average looking man."

Thats funny and so true
 

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"Then 5 minutes later:
"Oops. I meant to send that to gabby and diana to get together""


That's the giveaway. Normally someone would say, "Oops, I meant to send that to gabby and diana."

The added "to get together" is unnecessary and awkward. Add that to the later blaming you for being rude, and I think the story is pretty clear.
 

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"Then 5 minutes later:
"Oops. I meant to send that to gabby and diana to get together""


That's the giveaway. Normally someone would say, "Oops, I meant to send that to gabby and diana."

The added "to get together" is unnecessary and awkward. Add that to the later blaming you for being rude, and I think the story is pretty clear.
Thats a good point... why over explain... then the gaslighting....
 

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Women don't seem to understand how many men will literally fuuck anything that will hold still, and that this is often completely unrelated to the man's own SMV. They think this just applies to the desperate, lonely guy, but often the incel is lonely precisely because he's pining for an unattainable ideal, and doesn't want what he could easily have. The truth is that some apparently apex dudes will cast their seed into almost anything. I've seen this, first hand, when a friend with a beautiful woman at home would disappear for 20 minutes with some hideous beast whose mere lusty glance would give me the instant need for a Silkwood Shower.

Unfortunately, such women often don't possess the self-awareness and self-respect to understand that they might as well be farm animals, as far as such men are concerned, because what was to her validational sex, to him was just an act of bestiality. She dreams of their wedding, and he prays no-one finds out he fuucked her.

If you're the man of such a woman, a woman pining away for men who would stoop to fuuck her, but wouldn't marry her on a bet, get out before it's too late.

This is why it really is important to know your worth, and to train your desire accordingly, because if your wife is just an effigy for unattainable women, to you, then you're in a similar situation.

A man's SMV is the average of the women who want to have his children. A woman's SMV is the average of the men who want to MARRY her, not just fuuck her. That's the only realistic way to calculate SMV.
Sexual Market Value dictates what you can fvck, not which will marry you.
 

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Why all these pages on just assumptions and theories?

OP, like I said, just get the phone logs from your wireless carrier. It's clear that she's using her main number to contact people and not a burner account. Look at the phone numbers and see if there are one's that aren't familiar to you or ones where there are a lot of texting frequency.

The ones that aren't familiar, just do a reverse phone search on a site like: https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/ to find out about the person
This whole process should literally take less than 1/2 hour unless she has a long list.

It just boils down to good ol fashion detective work.
 
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