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HyenaPrince

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How old are your kids?
14, 12 and 8
in thia terrible 15 years if marriage.
Kid born 2 years later after married
That doesn't add up somehow. How is your first born 14 if he/she was born 2 years after your marriage started? Even if it was conceived one year after your marriage (2005?), it would take about 10 months for the child to be born starting from conception (2006?). So we're talking somewhere around spring/summer 2007? That would make him/her 13 years old by now. 1 year is missing here.

Maybe my calculation is a little off or you rounded your numbers up?
 

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Men have a tendency to over-compartmentalize, leading many to forget how interrelated everything really is.

You think you find a pretty girl who loves you, and nothing else matters, that it doesn't matter what her friends and family think of you. Well, the fact is that if you don't shape her influencers' opinions of of you, then their opinions of you will be shaped by every complaint she ever has about you, and that pretty girl who loved you will become convinced all the complaints echoed back to her from her influencers are all there is to you.

Never tell your wife anything you wouldn't tell her mother, father, siblings, or best friends...because E V E R Y thing you tell her will be shared. You can view that as a personal betrayal, or just accept it as an inalterable element of female nature, and act accordingly.

Every girl you ever dated subjected your every word and action to committee review, from day-one; whereas, most men ignore all her red flags, and never submit her behavior to objective review, until the train is already way past the station, and riding on one rail.
Good points. Wish id known that long ago. But so true.

Yeh. She has had numerous influencers ive had to take out or limit their access. Explaining to her what was happenening. Her response is i think for myself. No one tells me what to do.

Im like. Not really. I think she likes being influenced and languishing in bs
 

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That doesn't add up somehow. How is your first born 14 if he/she was born 2 years after your marriage started? Even if it was conceived one year after your marriage (2005?), it would take about 10 months for the child to be born starting from conception (2006?). So we're talking somewhere around spring/summer 2007? That would make him/her 13 years old by now. 1 year is missing here.

Maybe my calculation is a little off or you rounded your numbers up?
Yeh. Rounded up. It is 2 years out.. i gave rough numbers
 

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That's just women. You can't have access to everyone in whom she might be confiding, but it isn't that hard to be preferred by her friends and family, especially if she has major character flaws...unless she's been telling everyone that you've been trying to rope her into swinging...
Thats true
 

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Dated 3 years. Then When we were on a break. Soft breakup...i also dated others.

she dated a frat guy she knew from college for a month. Then the next frat guy asked the 1st guy if he could ask her out ( she told me)... so they dated til 6 weeks ...right b4 valentines day. He breaks up with her...
Then in may we were starting to go out again... we werent officially back on... but i took her to see our favorite band at a local bar.
After the show.. at 11pm we were drinking at the bar... and her ex walks up with the other frat guy...pretty random...

I meet him she actually whiapers in his ear. And they leave... 20 minutes later.. me and her go to bathroom. I go in tell her ill see her at bar or in line...

Im in there 45 seconds. When i get out... shes gone. Vanished.

I called her phone she answered. Heard a commotion.. sounded like laughing....

So.. she then turns the phone off. I hear from her at 11am the next day. I go over to talk.

I asked her what happened. She said she was mad at me bc we were fighting ( we werent). And she had gone downstairs to leave with her gfs...and went home with them.

Long story short.. i belelived her.

Years later..after kids. ..she tells me that ahe actually went bar hopping with her exes and then went home with her gfs.

Then this jan she tells me that the frat exes also went home with her and her gfs at her gfs. But the guys left.

Then this may.. she tells me that the gfs werent there and she left with the frat guys.

She said ahe hasnt had any sex with either guy. That night or when they dayed months b4.

She has always said that shes only had aex with me and her college bf.
 

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Dated 3 years. Then When we were on a break. Soft breakup...i also dated others.

she dated a frat guy she knew from college for a month. Then the next frat guy asked the 1st guy if he could ask her out ( she told me)... so they dated til 6 weeks ...right b4 valentines day. He breaks up with her...
Then in may we were starting to go out again... we werent officially back on... but i took her to see our favorite band at a local bar.
After the show.. at 11pm we were drinking at the bar... and her ex walks up with the other frat guy...pretty random...

I meet him she actually whiapers in his ear. And they leave... 20 minutes later.. me and her go to bathroom. I go in tell her ill see her at bar or in line...

Im in there 45 seconds. When i get out... shes gone. Vanished.

I called her phone she answered. Heard a commotion.. sounded like laughing....

So.. she then turns the phone off. I hear from her at 11am the next day. I go over to talk.

I asked her what happened. She said she was mad at me bc we were fighting ( we werent). And she had gone downstairs to leave with her gfs...and went home with them.

Long story short.. i belelived her.

Years later..after kids. ..she tells me that ahe actually went bar hopping with her exes and then went home with her gfs.

Then this jan she tells me that the frat exes also went home with her and her gfs at her gfs. But the guys left.

Then this may.. she tells me that the gfs werent there and she left with the frat guys.

She said ahe hasnt had any sex with either guy. That night or when they dayed months b4.

She has always said that shes only had aex with me and her college bf.
She's obviously lying. She told you a downright fairy tale man. She should be directing movies.

Damn... She left you there and went bar hopping with these guys?! She's cold as ice man. There's no way they weren't having a threesome or something of the sort.
 

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She's obviously lying. She told you a downright fairy tale man. She should be directing movies.

Damn... She left you there and went bar hopping with these guys?! She's cold as ice man. There's no way they weren't having a threesome or something of the sort.
I know. 2 frat guys she dated. One after the other. Then they all meet up months later...

Basicly after both let her go. Passed off. And i had nooooo idea.

She is stone cold
 

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Well Buzz, you definitely have enough outside opinion and helpful suggestions to go forward with your life. Time spent here talking about it for infinity would be a waste…
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