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I had another date last night with a hispanic girl from Facebook Dating. This is a different girl then the last two I posted about. I got her number a few weeks ago and we had been texting here and there. She is a nurse, so her schedule kind of sucks. We met at the usual spot that I use. This date went way better then the one the night before but still didn't turn out good in the end. The conversation went a lot better then some of my recent dates. But, when I walked her to her car, I didn't get a kiss. I'm not even going to hit her up. She is difficult to get out because of her job and I don't think she would even go out with me again anyways.

I'm really trying to figure out what I could be doing wrong compared to before. I'm starting to think I'm coming off as more boring on the dates then in the past. I tried not to be in interview mode, but maybe I still was like that too much. I'm going to step back and look at everything. I am going to try some different things on the next date that I go on when it comes to conversation. I think I definitely need to be more funny. One thing that I used to do after we were done with our drinks, was suggest that we walk around the outdoor mall for a little bit (the bar is at a outdoor mall). Then after we walked around talking, I would invite them back to my place. I haven't been doing this anymore. Maybe I should go back to doing that. I have now had 4 dates in a row with no lays.

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After the date ended, I met up with my friends in the area with all the clubs. It was jam packed because of this sporting event going on in town this weekend. Most of the clubs were charging cover charges because of this, so we only went to two places that weren't charging. I did 6 approaches and I'm going to break them down this time.

Approach #1 (4 set of white girls): I walked up with my wings and I started talking to one of the girls. I asked her if she had went to the event that was going on (I used this all night on girls because it was a easy conversation starter). I could tell the girls weren't interested in us and they excused themselves.

Approach #2 (4 set of hispanic girls): I walked up with my wings and I started talking to 2 of the girls. One of them seemed interested, so I started talking to only her. Her friends weren't interested in my wings and they all left except the girl I was talking to stuck around and kept talking to me. She was asking a lot of questions about me and was showing high interest. She turned out to be my age but she looked a lot younger and had a nice body. After about 10 mins of us talking she said she needed to get back to her friends. I decided to ask for the number because the interaction had went so well. She gave me her number and I'm going to text her tonight. I'm not getting my hopes up for a club number though. This was my best approach all night.

Approach #3 (2 white girls): I approached with one wing. I talked to a girl with a cowboy hat on and she was from London. She had an accent. She still had the price tag on her hat. I pointed that out and she took the tag off of it. I'm not sure if they were interested but I like to sometimes excuse myself when I feel that there not hooking. So, we moved on.

Approach #4 (5 set of white girls): I approached with my wings. The girl I tried to talk to just looked at me, looked away, and didn't say anything back. My wings didn't do much better. They were obviously stuck up.

Approach #5 (2 set of white girls): I approached with one wing. The one I talked to was giving me weird answers so I started messing with her. Not sure how to really explain that. She was laughing but in the end they weren't interested probably because they were both way taller then us.

Approach #6 (mixed set, 3 white girls, 1 guy): I approached them alone. I talked to my target first but then I introduced myself to the rest of the set, which included shaking the guys hand. One of the girls grabbed my hand and had me spin her around. My target seemed interested but she said she had a boyfriend. I don't think it was an excuse because of how receptive she was to me. I told her that is nice meeting her and to have a goodnight (my usual non butt hurt line before I walk away).

I ended up leaving around 12:30 because of how crowded it was and the lack of places to go because of cover charges. Overall, I think 6 approaches in the little time I did them was a big improvement since the last time I went out.
 

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Dude always stay later at clubs talk new girls then circle back to the first few you talked to when they have been drinking more and deem it socially acceptable to entertain the notion of going home with u or not. I've had completely disinterested acting girls be all over my second time seeing them later in the night.
 

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Dude always stay later at clubs talk new girls then circle back to the first few you talked to when they have been drinking more and deem it socially acceptable to entertain the notion of going home with u or not. I've had completely disinterested acting girls be all over my second time seeing them later in the night.
I normally stay till close. But, this last weekend was different because of the sporting event going on in town. No one in my group wanted to pay cover and the other place we went to was lame. I guess I could try to do re-approaches. It wouldn't hurt.
 

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Reapproaches are where it
I normally stay till close. But, this last weekend was different because of the sporting event going on in town. No one in my group wanted to pay cover and the other place we went to was lame. I guess I could try to do re-approaches. It wouldn't hurt.

Reapproaches are where it's at....she has had plenty of time to drink with her gfs and starts getting thirstier and thirstier as the night goes on then might think oh I wish such and such would talk to me now. Women are just built like this man...they need a bit of mystery/challenge (you walking/being away) and operate by unspoken socitetable rules that their peers directly and indirectly push on them. Glad I'm not a woman.

They are the ultimate sheep imo. A lot of men are becoming more like this too, though.

Reapproaches also give the illusion that now you are not a total stranger anymore. You are that guy that she met and knows from earlier. Kind of like the whole first date and second date rule.

Of course all of this applies only if there was even a spark of interest/attraction from her in the first play. You never know when she is around her gfs though....they will usually only act accordingly to what the leader hag of the group deems appropriate until tipsy.
 
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I had a date last night with a really cute 24 yr old Asian girl that I met on Facebook Dating. She wasn't born in the United States and comes off as more traditional. We met up after she got off of work, which was around 10pm. I met her at this bar near her work. I knew I probably wouldn't be smashing on the first date because of logistics. She also told me that this would be her first time going to a bar and first time going out with a white guy.

She showed up looking good in a black dress. The bar was kind of busy because they had a band playing in the other room. The regular bar area has a DJ. I had to get a table instead of sitting at the bar, which kind of sucks because its to interviewish sitting across from the girl. The date seemed to go good. We talked a lot and she seemed into me. When the date ended, I walked her to her car. We kissed a lot by her car. When I got home she text me goodnight and sweet dreams. Then this morning she already sent me a good morning text and we have exchanged a few text messages back and forth. She definitely is still interested. I'm going to try to set up a second date.

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The girl who's number I got last Saturday at the club actually responded when I text her. But, unfortunately she turned out to be nuts. She had just got out of a relationship and said she wasn't ready for a date. I told her that it was just one drink and she had nothing to lose. She then agreed and said yes to meeting me. I text her the next day and she was back on the not ready to go on a date stuff. Then she changed her mind again and then changed it back to not wanting to go out with me. I stopped replying to her. She has a screw loose in her head.
 

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I had a date last night with a really cute 24 yr old Asian girl that I met on Facebook Dating. She wasn't born in the United States and comes off as more traditional. We met up after she got off of work, which was around 10pm. I met her at this bar near her work. I knew I probably wouldn't be smashing on the first date because of logistics. She also told me that this would be her first time going to a bar and first time going out with a white guy.

She showed up looking good in a black dress. The bar was kind of busy because they had a band playing in the other room. The regular bar area has a DJ. I had to get a table instead of sitting at the bar, which kind of sucks because its to interviewish sitting across from the girl. The date seemed to go good. We talked a lot and she seemed into me. When the date ended, I walked her to her car. We kissed a lot by her car. When I got home she text me goodnight and sweet dreams. Then this morning she already sent me a good morning text and we have exchanged a few text messages back and forth. She definitely is still interested. I'm going to try to set up a second date.

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The girl who's number I got last Saturday at the club actually responded when I text her. But, unfortunately she turned out to be nuts. She had just got out of a relationship and said she wasn't ready for a date. I told her that it was just one drink and she had nothing to lose. She then agreed and said yes to meeting me. I text her the next day and she was back on the not ready to go on a date stuff. Then she changed her mind again and then changed it back to not wanting to go out with me. I stopped replying to her. She has a screw loose in her head.
Nice. Killing it with the Facebook Dating still I see lol.

I agree with sitting beside her so you can kino more easily.
 

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Well guys, I wish I had a FR or LR to post but I unfortunately don't. This Covid shVt is such a cVck blocker. My state opened up too early and now were suffering the consequences.

My hours are cut at work right now because sales are down. I was spending the extra time off in the gym. I was hitting it hard at the gym for the entire month of June. I added extra things into my work out and I was making huge gains. I was on track to become the most jacked I've ever been. But, then the governor closes all gyms and bars for the month of July. I'm so pissed off about it. You can go to a casino, inside of a restaurant to eat, and a hair/nail salon but not work out at a gym. It's got be one of the most stupid things I have heard of. The governor just wants to make it look likes he is doing something. I just had to vent about this...

Night game and day game are totally dead in my state right now. There is a mask ordinance, so that kills cold approach. I'm hesitant about that anyways and online dating because of Covid. I see my parents a lot and they are old, so I do not want to get them sick if I end up getting Covid. I decided to sign up for FB Dating again to see whats out there. It seems dead compared to the past. I ran out of girls to swipe in my criteria pretty quickly which makes it seem that not many girls are on there right now because of covid. I had only 7 matches and 1 phone number so far out of the girls I swiped. I'm not sure if I should even bother with Tinder right now.

I really hope the gyms open back up after this month and that they don't have the shut down extended. I have some free weights and pull up bar but it will not give me half of the results I was getting from the gym. I've been doing some painting in my place and I am taking one online class to stay busy.

I have learned some important things during this time though. I have been reading and watching some material to help my inner game and value. Some of things I have learned are:
-Value is a lot more then I thought it was. I kind thought it was just about LMS. But, now I'm finding out that everything in your life contributes to your overall value. Everything matters. You need to improve yourself in every aspect of your life to raise your value, even if its just something small.
-I'm better then I think I am. I was selling myself short. My value and worth is more then I thought. I bring more to the table then a lot of girls that reject me.
-I'm good enough for the girls that I want. For some reason I used to think deep down that I wasn't good enough for some girls. Now that I look back, I see how crazy it was to think this. A lot of the girls I like are actually way below my level. Yeah, they might look good but that's all they bring to the table. I want to start dating better girls that are closer to my level.
-Some girls are just delusional about there value. There is always going to be girls out there that think they are to good for me and better then me when they really aren't. I just chalk it up as delusional and low IQ. For example: single moms that work at a fast food place or a hospital cafeteria that think there too good for me.
 

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Well guys, I wish I had a FR or LR to post but I unfortunately don't. This Covid shVt is such a cVck blocker. My state opened up too early and now were suffering the consequences.

My hours are cut at work right now because sales are down. I was spending the extra time off in the gym. I was hitting it hard at the gym for the entire month of June. I added extra things into my work out and I was making huge gains. I was on track to become the most jacked I've ever been. But, then the governor closes all gyms and bars for the month of July. I'm so pissed off about it. You can go to a casino, inside of a restaurant to eat, and a hair/nail salon but not work out at a gym. It's got be one of the most stupid things I have heard of. The governor just wants to make it look likes he is doing something. I just had to vent about this...

Night game and day game are totally dead in my state right now. There is a mask ordinance, so that kills cold approach. I'm hesitant about that anyways and online dating because of Covid. I see my parents a lot and they are old, so I do not want to get them sick if I end up getting Covid. I decided to sign up for FB Dating again to see whats out there. It seems dead compared to the past. I ran out of girls to swipe in my criteria pretty quickly which makes it seem that not many girls are on there right now because of covid. I had only 7 matches and 1 phone number so far out of the girls I swiped. I'm not sure if I should even bother with Tinder right now.

I really hope the gyms open back up after this month and that they don't have the shut down extended. I have some free weights and pull up bar but it will not give me half of the results I was getting from the gym. I've been doing some painting in my place and I am taking one online class to stay busy.

I have learned some important things during this time though. I have been reading and watching some material to help my inner game and value. Some of things I have learned are:
-Value is a lot more then I thought it was. I kind thought it was just about LMS. But, now I'm finding out that everything in your life contributes to your overall value. Everything matters. You need to improve yourself in every aspect of your life to raise your value, even if its just something small.
-I'm better then I think I am. I was selling myself short. My value and worth is more then I thought. I bring more to the table then a lot of girls that reject me.
-I'm good enough for the girls that I want. For some reason I used to think deep down that I wasn't good enough for some girls. Now that I look back, I see how crazy it was to think this. A lot of the girls I like are actually way below my level. Yeah, they might look good but that's all they bring to the table. I want to start dating better girls that are closer to my level.
-Some girls are just delusional about there value. There is always going to be girls out there that think they are to good for me and better then me when they really aren't. I just chalk it up as delusional and low IQ. For example: single moms that work at a fast food place or a hospital cafeteria that think there too good for me.
Yo bro, good to see you update again. That sucks about the gyms. We're in pretty much the same situation where I live, because we're about to enter a second wave of coronavirus.

Good to see that you're keeping busy too. What class are you taking over the summer?

And that's good that you're doing inner game as well. Once this COVID stuff (eventually) blows over that should improve your approaches too!
 

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Yo bro, good to see you update again. That sucks about the gyms. We're in pretty much the same situation where I live, because we're about to enter a second wave of coronavirus.

Good to see that you're keeping busy too. What class are you taking over the summer?

And that's good that you're doing inner game as well. Once this COVID stuff (eventually) blows over that should improve your approaches too!
I'm taking Intro to Linux. I really hope it blows over soon. I'm getting tired of it...
 

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I had a date setup with this Hispanic girl I met online for last night but she flaked. This is my first flake in I think 1.5 yrs. She did give a counter offer for next weekend. I told her that I would let her know about next weekend. I'm not sure if I will pursue her anymore. It depends if I find something else online in the next few days.

A couple posts ago, I talked about things I've learned during the pandemic. I now know I'm higher value then I thought and that I'm just overall better then I thought. So, for now on I'm no longer putting up with bs from women that I used to put up with. I know my worth. Plus with the pandemic, I might as well be more picky about who I risk my health to meet.

I'm doing things different now. Online girl doesn't reply back in the same day, unmatched. Online girl doesn't answer the question I asked, unmatched. Online girl gives one or two word replies and doesn't ask me any questions, unmatched. Girl flakes with no counter offer, no reply from me and nexted. Girl takes 3 hours to text back after each time I text, nexted. Girl doesn't text back at all, nexted. I refuse to double text. If I never talk to her again and don't get to meet her, then oh well. Her loss.

The other day on FB Dating, a girl told me she was on a date earlier that day. I unmatched her. She could have left that out. I don't care about other guys, but its the point that she had to tell me that. Her loss. High value men need to stop putting up with bs, especially from lower value women. Some may call me bitter, but I call it knowing my worth.
 

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I had a date setup with this Hispanic girl I met online for last night but she flaked. This is my first flake in I think 1.5 yrs. She did give a counter offer for next weekend. I told her that I would let her know about next weekend. I'm not sure if I will pursue her anymore. It depends if I find something else online in the next few days.

A couple posts ago, I talked about things I've learned during the pandemic. I now know I'm higher value then I thought and that I'm just overall better then I thought. So, for now on I'm no longer putting up with bs from women that I used to put up with. I know my worth. Plus with the pandemic, I might as well be more picky about who I risk my health to meet.

I'm doing things different now. Online girl doesn't reply back in the same day, unmatched. Online girl doesn't answer the question I asked, unmatched. Online girl gives one or two word replies and doesn't ask me any questions, unmatched. Girl flakes with no counter offer, no reply from me and nexted. Girl takes 3 hours to text back after each time I text, nexted. Girl doesn't text back at all, nexted. I refuse to double text. If I never talk to her again and don't get to meet her, then oh well. Her loss.

The other day on FB Dating, a girl told me she was on a date earlier that day. I unmatched her. She could have left that out. I don't care about other guys, but its the point that she had to tell me that. Her loss. High value men need to stop putting up with bs, especially from lower value women. Some may call me bitter, but I call it knowing my worth.
That's great fam. Knowing you're high value and acting accordingly.

Although I think that could definitely be a bang for the girl with the counter offer.
 

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That's great fam. Knowing you're high value and acting accordingly.

Although I think that could definitely be a bang for the girl with the counter offer.
I'll text her tomorrow and see what she says. I just feel disrespected when women flake, even if they counter offer.
 

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I'll text her tomorrow and see what she says. I just feel disrespected when women flake, even if they counter offer.
Yeah I know what you mean. Flakes suck. Texting in between the date like you said has def helped me out though
 

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I had a date last night with the Hispanic girl that I was supposed to meet last weekend. Bars and a lot of places here are shut down right now. So, I met her at the lake. We walked around for a little while and sat on a bench. Conversation went good. I walked her to her car and we kissed.

I'll see her again if she is down. Next time, I'll invite her to my place. She doesn't seem reckless about the whole covid thing, which is good. I'm trying to be careful who I meet right now. I have another one that seems interested and I've nexted some other new ones recently.
 

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I had a date last night with the Hispanic girl that I was supposed to meet last weekend. Bars and a lot of places here are shut down right now. So, I met her at the lake. We walked around for a little while and sat on a bench. Conversation went good. I walked her to her car and we kissed.

I'll see her again if she is down. Next time, I'll invite her to my place. She doesn't seem reckless about the whole covid thing, which is good. I'm trying to be careful who I meet right now. I have another one that seems interested and I've nexted some other new ones recently.
Curious bro... Do you always kiss at the car? I know there are two ways to do it... Either kiss them at the car or just kiss them once you invite them to your place.

I had a date a couple weeks ago, and I opted to kiss her at my place instead of at the car.

I'm thinking either could work.

I suppose the moral of the story is ALWAYS escalate, or there's no point of even going on the date lol. If you don't escalate, that window will close and then you can't fvck her.
 
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Curious bro... Do you always kiss at the car? I know there are two ways to do it... Either kiss them at the car or just kiss them once you invite them to your place.

I had a date a couple weeks ago, and I opted to kiss her at my place instead of at the car.

I'm thinking either could work.

I suppose the moral of the story is ALWAYS escalate, or there's no point of even going on the date lol. If you don't escalate, that window will close and then you can't fvck her.
I only kiss them by there car if they aren't coming back to my place. If they are coming back to my place, then I kiss them once were sitting on my couch. If she already agreed to come back to your place, then you don't really need to kiss her by the car. Yes, always escalate because you may never see her again and you have nothing to lose.
 

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I had that girl from my last date over Sat night and we watched a movie. The movie was really good and I was pretty into it, so I didn't put any moves on her until it ended. I was not very happy with how she acted when I did. I tried to make out with her and it was kind of a struggle to get her to let me put my tongue in her mouth. She pretty much wouldn't make out with me. I started kissing her on her neck and she giggled. Then she said she was going to head out. I was pissed but I didn't show it.

The days after that, she was still texting me like she normally would. She replied back quickly and was using smiley face emojis. Then yesterday, I sent the following text and got the following reply:
Me: You should come over again Sat night
Her: I wanted to, but I think I need a weekend off to stay home and do nothing lol

She is definitely nexted. I didn't reply back and I won't even if she hits me up again. The next date would have been the 3rd one and her last chance to put out. I have a 3 date rule when it comes to putting out. She was kind of boring, seems really lazy, and looked better in her pics. Its not much of a loss besides my time was wasted. I'm interested in women that actually want to see me.

I already replaced her for next weekend with a new date.
 

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I had that girl from my last date over Sat night and we watched a movie. The movie was really good and I was pretty into it, so I didn't put any moves on her until it ended. I was not very happy with how she acted when I did. I tried to make out with her and it was kind of a struggle to get her to let me put my tongue in her mouth. She pretty much wouldn't make out with me. I started kissing her on her neck and she giggled. Then she said she was going to head out. I was pissed but I didn't show it.

The days after that, she was still texting me like she normally would. She replied back quickly and was using smiley face emojis. Then yesterday, I sent the following text and got the following reply:
Me: You should come over again Sat night
Her: I wanted to, but I think I need a weekend off to stay home and do nothing lol

She is definitely nexted. I didn't reply back and I won't even if she hits me up again. The next date would have been the 3rd one and her last chance to put out. I have a 3 date rule when it comes to putting out. She was kind of boring, seems really lazy, and looked better in her pics. Its not much of a loss besides my time was wasted. I'm interested in women that actually want to see me.

I already replaced her for next weekend with a new date.
Yeah, sounds like her interest isn't super high but she likes the attention.

I like the abundance mindset you have.
 

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Yeah, sounds like her interest isn't super high but she likes the attention.

I like the abundance mindset you have.
Her interest might not have been through the roof but I don't think I would call it low interest either. I honestly think she thought it was a legit reason to not see me and there was nothing wrong with it. She text me last night with "Hey :)" and I didn't respond. Maybe she will learn from this and the next guy will reap the benefits. But, when a new girl that I'm talking to tells me she would rather stay home and do nothing instead of seeing me, she is automatically nexted. I don't think I really have a abundance mindset right now. I'm just not going to put up with any BS. I'm still supposed to meet that new one at the lake tonight. Hopefully it goes well. We already spoke on the phone the other day and she seems pretty interested.
 
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