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I want to be a CS Professional and make money.
What will you do contribute to society by doing this? What will you contribute to the ant hill? Are you just putting a piece of sand in place because that's what someone told you to do to live a happy life in the hill or are you doing it because you want the ant hill to be better, stronger, and your contribution will make it so?


How would you even broach conversations like this?
"Hey Nick how's it going, bro?"
"It's... Okay."
"What do you mean?"
"I've just been having a tough time with xyz... I'm trying this and this but it isn't working. Have you experienced anything like that?"

"Hey bro can you chat? I just need an ear."

Idk maybe these things seem weird out of context but if you offer it, it becomes part of the conversation and you will talk about it.
 

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About ten years ago, a client of mine referred a friend/business associate of his to me. Short rough version goes something like this...
This business man, late forties or so, could not figure out how to get and sustain true happiness. He was on a quest. He was seeking true lasting happiness. He couldn't catch it and sustain it. He was at a loss. He researched it and consulted lots of experts about it. He tried everything he could think of. He was at a loss. His business associate referred him to me. That person had it. He could see it. He said he could see I had it also. He wanted to know what he could do to have it and sustain it too. He explained...

He had tried all kinds of things throughout his young life. Couldn't get it.
He made his first million thought that would finally make him truly happy. Nope
Found a himself a beautiful woman. Nope.
Got Married. Nope.
Had Kids. Nope
Founded a Company. Nope.
Got Divorced. Nope.
Was worth ten million dollars. Nope.
Got a new upgraded wife. Nope
Sold a company. Nope
New kids with the new wife. Nope.
Started another company. Nope.
on our conversation went....

I am not a who's who person. I didn't see him any differently or relate with him any differently than any other client.
A few days later I saw the man who referred him to me. He told me that the man who had come to see me was currently worth over a hundred million dollars. There he was in my office the previous week...still trying with all that he was, and all that he had available too him, to find true happiness.

So @nicksaiz65 Read what you wrote again... What do you think now???
I feel like we're drifting closer and closer to the meaning of life conversation lol

So material things won't give me happiness. If they won't, then what on Earth will?

I always used to joke "They say money can't buy me happiness, but it can buy video games and synth plugins and that's close enough"
 

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What will you do contribute to society by doing this? What will you contribute to the ant hill? Are you just putting a piece of sand in place because that's what someone told you to do to live a happy life in the hill or are you doing it because you want the ant hill to be better, stronger, and your contribution will make it so?




"Hey Nick how's it going, bro?"
"It's... Okay."
"What do you mean?"
"I've just been having a tough time with xyz... I'm trying this and this but it isn't working. Have you experienced anything like that?"

"Hey bro can you chat? I just need an ear."

Idk maybe these things seem weird out of context but if you offer it, it becomes part of the conversation and you will talk about it.
I see what you mean by the conversation. Really, I'm supposed to be able to tell the people that I mentioned anything so yeah.

And honestly, I don't know yet. I would say "to be a DJ because a DJ has a nice job and programming is cool." But I just wanna build cool stuff and be a great programmer I suppose. I hope it isn't too late for me
 

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So material things won't give me happiness. If they won't, then what on Earth will
And honestly, I don't know yet. I would say "to be a DJ because a DJ has a nice job and programming is cool." But I just wanna build cool stuff and be a great programmer I suppose. I hope it isn't too late for me
Purpose.

Purpose will get you through long nights of studying your along your why am I here.

Purpose will get you up in the morning and make you love your job.

Purpose makes you feel needed, valued, need you have something to offer the world to make it a better place.

This is just my perspective. The people I admire and the parts of my life that i find to be most memorable align with this. I can't define what happiness is for you. This is what it is for me right now. Working towards contributing something to the ant hill because I know it will make loving in it better for other people. Solving problems with no expectation of thanks or acknowledgement. Simply because I think it's what should be done for the greater good. Meeting people and creating meaningful relationships along the way. Understanding and mastering myself.

I'm sure my definition will change as I experience life. But I think it's a good starting point. My point being that I believe if you define your purpose things become clearer and you'll begin to experience happiness when you exercise that thing whatever it is.

This is something you have to define for yourself. Whether it aligns with what I'm saying or is your own entirely different definition of happiness. You gotta dig deep sit with it and observe the world around you.

So I'll leave you to it. Godspeed.
 

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What will you do contribute to society by doing this? What will you contribute to the ant hill? Are you just putting a piece of sand in place because that's what someone told you to do to live a happy life in the hill or are you doing it because you want the ant hill to be better, stronger, and your contribution will make it so?




"Hey Nick how's it going, bro?"
"It's... Okay."
"What do you mean?"
"I've just been having a tough time with xyz... I'm trying this and this but it isn't working. Have you experienced anything like that?"

"Hey bro can you chat? I just need an ear."

Idk maybe these things seem weird out of context but if you offer it, it becomes part of the conversation and you will talk about it.
OP, if you are only doing this for money you will be in for a rude awakening...

You will be up against people obsessed with programming(like me) who spend hours a day doing in in their free time even after work, who would do it for free even if they didn't get a dime for it, and who literally have withdrawal symptoms if they spend a day not doing anything...

All I can say is good luck if you aren't really passionate about it.
 
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OP, if you are only doing this for money you will be in for a rude awakening...

You will be up against people obsessed with programming(like me) who spend hours a day doing in in their free time even after work, who would do it for free even if they didn't get a dime for it, and who literally have withdrawal symptoms if they spend a day not doing anything...

All I can say is good luck if you aren't really passionate about it.
@nicksaiz65 Marmel is sharing a HUGE gift in this reality check!!! HUGE!!! LIFE DEFINING HUGE!!! Consider what he has shared DEEPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a gift that can save you YEARS, yes YEARS of your life!!!! IF you are not passionate, TRULY PASSIONATE, willing to do that kind of work for FREE...just because YOU LOVE IT and are PASSIONATE about it....then STOP AND TRULY TAKE TIME AND RECONSIDER what is actually TRUE for you!!

There is no wrong or right.
IF you are going into the work for the IMAGE...you can say you are a _____specialist.
IF you are going into it to make BIG money.
IF you are going into it because it sounds good and you don't know what else you would do.
IF you are going into it because you have invested so many years and $$$ in school and you are worried what it would LOOK LIKE if you stopped or changed your mind

If YOU @nicksaiz65 are anything other than INTENSELY PASSIONATE about it.....PAUSE.....PAUSE!!!!

Marmel is offering you a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE reality check.....HUGE!!!!! Do NOT underestimate it's value!!!!!!

If you are NOT passionate....and you OWN THAT NOW...you will SAVE YOURSELF YEARS...YEARS of regret and unhappiness to come.

I do not know what is true for you. I am not pushing any direction. I am not!

BE 1000000% honest with YOURSELF!!!!

Are you in it because you LOVE IT?????

Are you in it for the $$$$$????
Are you in it because you think it will sound cool to others????
Are you in it because you think it's a good DJ profession???

Are you in it because you FEEEEEL PASSIONATATELY about it???

Would you do it for FREE??????

Marmel gave you GOLD HERE!!! Do not underestimate it's value!!!

1000's of people find out years into their career what he just shared. THEY WISH someone had told them earlier and they changed course.

YOU CANNOT FAKE TRUE HAPPINESS! YOU CANNOT FAKE PASSION!

Only you know what is true for you!

Consider it DEEEEPLY!!!!
 

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OP, if you are only doing this for money you will be in for a rude awakening...

You will be up against people obsessed with programming(like me) who spend hours a day doing in in their free time even after work, who would do it for free even if they didn't get a dime for it, and who literally have withdrawal symptoms if they spend a day not doing anything...

All I can say is good luck if you aren't really passionate about it.
I think programming is really cool: definitely what I want to do. Classes are just kicking my butt

I'm not gonna give up until I graduate and have some experience with an internship/my personal projects. That'll put me well on my way to being a decent programmer at the very least.

Any thoughts on that program? Am I an idiot for not being able to figure it out?
 
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@nicksaiz65 Marmel is sharing a HUGE gift in this reality check!!! HUGE!!! LIFE DEFINING HUGE!!! Consider what he has shared DEEPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a gift that can save you YEARS, yes YEARS of your life!!!! IF you are not passionate, TRULY PASSIONATE, willing to do that kind of work for FREE...just because YOU LOVE IT and are PASSIONATE about it....then STOP AND TRULY TAKE TIME AND RECONSIDER what is actually TRUE for you!!

There is no wrong or right.
IF you are going into the work for the IMAGE...you can say you are a _____specialist.
IF you are going into it to make BIG money.
IF you are going into it because it sounds good and you don't know what else you would do.
IF you are going into it because you have invested so many years and $$$ in school and you are worried what it would LOOK LIKE if you stopped or changed your mind

If YOU @nicksaiz65 are anything other than INTENSELY PASSIONATE about it.....PAUSE.....PAUSE!!!!

Marmel is offering you a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE reality check.....HUGE!!!!! Do NOT underestimate it's value!!!!!!

If you are NOT passionate....and you OWN THAT NOW...you will SAVE YOURSELF YEARS...YEARS of regret and unhappiness to come.

I do not know what is true for you. I am not pushing any direction. I am not!

BE 1000000% honest with YOURSELF!!!!

Are you in it because you LOVE IT?????

Are you in it for the $$$$$????
Are you in it because you think it will sound cool to others????
Are you in it because you think it's a good DJ profession???

Are you in it because you FEEEEEL PASSIONATATELY about it???

Would you do it for FREE??????

Marmel gave you GOLD HERE!!! Do not underestimate it's value!!!

1000's of people find out years into their career what he just shared. THEY WISH someone had told them earlier and they changed course.

YOU CANNOT FAKE TRUE HAPPINESS! YOU CANNOT FAKE PASSION!

Only you know what is true for you!

Consider it DEEEEPLY!!!!
I honestly think programming is what I want to do... I'm gonna be stubborn and stick with my path lol.

I've just gotten distracted but I swear on my life that I will finish
 

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I honestly think programming is what I want to do... I'm gonna be stubborn and stick with my path lol.

I've just gotten distracted but I swear on my life that I will finish
I am not arguing your choice..understand that.

I want to clarify something.
Choosing to finish your degree because you started it and it's important to you to complete it, for a sense of self-respect is NOT the topic at hand.

It is FAR BIGGER AND FAR MORE IMPORTANT than that, in my view, anyway.
 

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I honestly think programming is what I want to do... I'm gonna be stubborn and stick with my path lol.

I've just gotten distracted but I swear on my life that I will finish
If you LOVE what you do so much that others have to pull you away from it is one thing.
Saying you have to effort, effort, effort, effort to make yourself do it, but you will persevere no matter what, is a whole different world.
 

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I am not arguing your choice..understand that.

I want to clarify something.
Choosing to finish your degree because you started it and it's important to you to complete it, for a sense of self-respect is NOT the topic at hand.

It is FAR BIGGER AND FAR MORE IMPORTANT than that, in my view, anyway.
As in what I want to do for the rest of my life?

I think there's no reason not to complete the degree. I've taken out a good amount of classes.

If it turns out I hate programming I could always be a full time musician. I was going to do that because I love it and it could boost my income on the side. But if I need to I could go full time.
 

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If you LOVE what you do so much that others have to pull you away from it is one thing.
Saying you have to effort, effort, effort, effort to make yourself do it, but you will persevere no matter what, is a whole different world.
One is a life of joy.
Other is a life of perpetual struggle.
 

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If you LOVE what you do so much that others have to pull you away from it is one thing.
Saying you have to effort, effort, effort, effort to make yourself do it, but you will persevere no matter what, is a whole different world.
I was under the impression that school wasn't supposed to be fun, right? I think programming is cool but I have to put in that effort lol. There's the discipline thing we were talking about
 

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As in what I want to do for the rest of my life?

I think there's no reason not to complete the degree. I've taken out a good amount of classes.

If it turns out I hate programming I could always be a full time musician. I was going to do that because I love it and it could boost my income on the side. But if I need to I could go full time.
Isn't that the point in investing even more YEARS of your life and $$$$, so you can become GREAT at what you WANT to spend MORE YEARS of your life, because you ENJOY IT and are PASSIONATE about it????
 

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I was under the impression that school wasn't supposed to be fun, right? I think programming is cool but I have to put in that effort lol. There's the discipline thing we were talking about
We are not talking about fun vs struggle. Struggle doesn't necessarily make something valuable or worthwhile.
 

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I was under the impression that school wasn't supposed to be fun, right? I think programming is cool but I have to put in that effort lol. There's the discipline thing we were talking about
@marmel75 could you please speak to your experience on this for @nicksaiz65
Was learning programming a struggle? Was it effortful? Did it require lots of discipline? Did you have to force yourself to do it? What was it like for you when you first were learning and starting? Please help @nicksaiz65 understand if his type of struggling and resistance and having to effort to sit down and do what is needed, matches your experience and/or is common? And/or whatever wisdom you can offer here, please...:)
 

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Isn't that the point in investing even more YEARS of your life and $$$$, so you can become GREAT at what you WANT to spend MORE YEARS of your life, because you ENJOY IT and are PASSIONATE about it????
True. That and wanting to succeed in general. My main motivation ATM is that degree honestly
 
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