If the quality of women goes down as you get older, why do a lot of you say to get married WAY later

[bigneil]

They wanted a house so his father with a sniper rifle can watch over the 20 year old wife who will live in the house that the father paid for.

 

[SteR]

@BeExcellent, please provide a working example of how a 20 year male old keeps a "top tier" (i.e., really hot, from a rich family, like my ex girlfriend) 20 year old female happy? (Note to readers: I've bedded about 40 women and ZERO were from the year I was born, or the year after). What did he do for a living? What is his salary? How much is the mortgage? What is his car payment? How much did his rich daddy chip in? Is that your point, that girls want a guy their age with a rich daddy? Ok, but only 1% will get that.

At age 47 I can just now barely keep a 20 year old woman happy.

Because your reference for 20 year old women isn't your normal 20 year old women.. it's 20 year old strippers. They are not normal. Your average stripper isn't the most mentally stable woman, and considering her career involves selling her looks for money, it's no coincidence she's interested in men with money. Implying all women have a stripper's mindset is ridiculous.

Going back to what @BeExcellent said, most well-to-do families (top-tier as already discussed) mix within their own circles and the families will certainly try encourage matches to a similar class. Your average older guy doesn't fit into that..

 

[bigneil]

Because your reference for 20 year old women isn't your normal 20 year old women.. it's 20 year old strippers. They are not normal. Your average stripper isn't the most mentally stable woman, and considering her career involves selling her looks for money, it's no coincidence she's interested in men with money. Implying all women have a stripper's mindset is ridiculous.

Going back to what @BeExcellent said, most well-to-do families (top-tier as already discussed) mix within their own circles and the families will certainly try encourage matches to a similar class. Your average older guy doesn't fit into that..

Show us a higher rated non-stripper, b!tch.

Going back to my response to BeEx (how appropriate): give us a working example of how much her 20 year old husband makes and how much the mortgage in "her nicest house" costs? And to tide readers over during your crickets, here is the 20 year old I am dating at age 46, you fat old feminist on welfare.

 

[SteR]

Show us a higher rated non-stripper, b!tch.

Going back to my response to BeEx (how appropriate): give us a working example of how much her 20 year old husband makes and how much the mortgage in "her nicest house" costs? And to tide readers over during your crickets, here is the 20 year old I am dating at age 46, you fat old feminist on welfare.

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, and what anyone else thinks about the quality of your girls shouldn't matter. I'm still amazed that at 47 you still feel the need to constantly seek validation. You behave like a teenage girl.

And going back to BeExcellent's point: The majority of 20 year old girls do not care how much their partner is making - why would they? They're most likely still studying. Even if they're not, girls at that age evaluate the potential of the guy they're dating. You're also making the assumption that these 20 year olds are going to stay relatively poor. For all you know, the majority of them will go on to do well for themselves.. especially if they're well educated.

Think back to when you were 20. Did you give a sh!t about what the girl you were dating was going to be like in 20 years? Probably not.

One other thing: That online rating site is ridiculous. Seriously think about what kind of guy would go on a site to evaluate a girl's appearance? Social retards most likely. Of course they're going to rate girls highly.. considering they probably don't get any action themselves.

 

[bigneil]

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, .

True, but a paid consensus featuring 60 votes means more than your farting our your personal opinion, which is clearly abnormal.

This photo averaged 90% over those 60 votes. Show me better before pretending this is suboptimal.

 

[Lion1985]

rollo once did a post on his blog about a man who was married to his wife, who was kind of frigid and prudish, they didn't have sex that much, she wasn't that into it when they did have sex, and she wasn't very kinky (no anal for example)

he finds out that she kept a video tape stored away with some of her things, so he pops it into the player and finds out that in college she was the kind of girl who'd get gangbanged in all her holes by 4 random guys and let them video tape it for free.

so the idea is, given the choice between these two guys, which would you rather be? (the answer is most likely neither since I doubt most guys want to bang one girl with 3 other guys around, but absolutely no one would rather be the cuck who gets to marry her after everyone else is done having the fun that you don't get to have)

the idea is that the beta she gets to settle down with has the raw deal because usually she isn't all that attracted to him and worse, she has to trick him into thinking that she's some good innocent girl which means making him wait til date 5 and refusing to be very kinky



protip: people who think they're so much more mature than everyone else their age are usually just like everyone else their age except with added pretension.

that, and girls who prefer way older men to the point of not liking men their age tend to have severe daddy issues, proceed with caution bro

https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, and what anyone else thinks about the quality of your girls shouldn't matter. I'm still amazed that at 47 you still feel the need to constantly seek validation. You behave like a teenage girl.

And going back to BeExcellent's point: The majority of 20 year old girls do not care how much their partner is making - why would they? They're most likely still studying. Even if they're not, girls at that age evaluate the potential of the guy they're dating. You're also making the assumption that these 20 year olds are going to stay relatively poor. For all you know, the majority of them will go on to do well for themselves.. especially if they're well educated.

Think back to when you were 20. Did you give a sh!t about what the girl you were dating was going to be like in 20 years? Probably not.

One other thing: That online rating site is ridiculous. Seriously think about what kind of guy would go on a site to evaluate a girl's appearance? Social retards most likely. Of course they're going to rate girls highly.. considering they probably don't get any action themselves.

Yes, he does behave like a teenager.

Did you read the part about him saying he feels the need to give them 10 orgasms/night so that they don't leave him? And how he pumps iron while thinking about them so that they won't leave him?

There's something sick in his brain.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Stay on topic guys. Do NOT turn this into another worthless bitchfest.

....

Someone told me to unblock the ignored content and read your post so I have. I have a feeling that what you and your colleagues share with one another is not truly their subconscious thoughts about one another or their marriage in general. Just because someone SAYS that their marriage is good doesn't mean that it actually is. Just because on the surface level they try to convince themselves that they're happy doesn't mean that they actually are. What the 'red pill' has done has simply brought out these subconscious thoughts into their conscious minds. What I tried convincing myself of being 'normal' was simply me trying to deny my true desires. Other men continue to deny their true desires as well and I won't be them. I can tell you that MANY of the couples that I see who are 'happily' married tell themselves that they're happy, but in reality I can just tell that they aren't by their body language and by what they say and how they say it. A lot of it seems WAY stop cliche, and if it seems too good to be true, it usually is. I'm not embittered by the men here. You do make a good point that for many of them the ship has already sailed, so of course it would make sense why they say the stuff they do. But that doesn't mean that I still believe that there are any super hot virgins left. For about a year now, I have fully realized what reality is and what it isn't, in terms of women. An extremely hot woman who cooks, cleans, does not deny sex or any sexual pleasures unless she has to (period, pregnancy, sick, etc.), is willing to do crazy things in bed, doesn't continue to argue with me when I strongly resist something she is for, someone who will listen to me when I ask for something, doesn't do anything behind my back without letting me know, doesn't make catty or vicious remarks in an argument, doesn't try to manipulate, etc. In other words, a really hot virgin woman who cooks, cleans, is really into sex with me, and is a naturally sweet and caring person. If they are sweet and caring, then they're likely to listen to you to cook and clean if they initially wouldn't. Sure you can find some women with these traits, but all of them at the same time? I mean there definitely aren't any hot virgins anymore so that's out the window hahaha. But the other traits? I've found 3 women in my life who were like that, and they actually were pretty hot. But one of them got jaded towards men and became fat so she's no longer an option, another girl is trying to become a lawyer of all professions so she's definitely going to be jaded not to mention she is still in love with some scumbag from way long ago so she might already be jaded, and then the last girl just kinda disappeared. Last I saw of her, her looks had started to fade just a bit and she wasn't as pretty as she once was. Don't tell me that these type of women exist in extreme abundance. I doubt that. The type of woman who always looks at her man with dreamy eyes or who is always ecstatic when she sees him, who is willing to basically live for him and stand by his side, they don't exist in human form. They exist in dog form, hence why they say that a dog is a man's best friend (because unlike women, they'll absolutely adore you and stay by your side through thick and thin).

You aren't even going to find hot virgins at all nowadays. I've already accepted that though so I'm not really angry or bitter like how you think. It's more like an objective fact to me now rather than an emotional opinion. Just like how the grass is green and the ocean has crashing waves, hot virgins don't exist anymore. There is no emotion behind any of those 3 facts to me, it just IS. Does that make sense? I don't quite care or have the wishful thinking anymore. So long as she hasn't slept with a million guys, been in orgies with other men, nor say that she is bisexual, then that counts as low mileage to me. Has she slept with only a small a few guys before and all of them she was in a relationship with? That's pretty good in my book. I'm not jaded, I've just lowered my expectations of women and will not hold any attachment towards them. I have also lowered my tolerance for sh!tty and manipulative behavior too, though. But that's about it. Don't worry about me, BeExcellent. Unlike most of the guys here, I've been able to accept how things are without becoming bitter or angry. The only things that cause me to become bitter or angry are the things that could also apply to men as well, in which case I would just become more jaded towards people as a whole, not women specifically.

Anyway, if you know of hot women who will do anything and everything for their husband without question, even if reluctant, and they actually are super hot and will become as excited to see you as a dog, then send them my way. But chances are, not even you have seen couples like that. You've seen couples that SAY they're 'happy', but you likely have never seen couples that actually SHOW that they're happy. Take a look at their mannerisms, the way they look at each other, the way they talk t each other, their body language towards each other. You can't see their subtleties showing true gratitude for one another after they've been with each other for a while. They're more like good acquaintances or 'friends'. The best relationships I've seen are the ones that just sort of happen, like an apple falling from a tree into someone else's lap. But how often does that actually occur?

Anyway, my purpose for this post wasn't focused on whether or not I should get married, it was about why there is this contradiction here that I noticed. I've already made up my mind on the marriage matter and nothing but my experiences from this point onward will change it. It may seem ignorant to some of the guys on here, but I'll be okay. I've had a plan for most everything since I was 15, before I even knew that places like this existed. Thank you for the references, I'll consider checking them out.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

Yup, that was the one. I saw the actual snapshot of it on TRP on Reddit. It doesn't seem as bad to me now as it did before, maybe because Rollo also talked about it afterwards. But it still fvcks me up to read though. My psyche is still intact at least. Before though, it sent shivers down my spine. Such a horrible story. And there's no way she just wasn't cheating either. Once a slut, always a slut imo.

 

[bigneil]

Did you read the part about him saying he feels the need to give them 10 orgasms/night so that they don't leave him? And how he pumps iron while thinking about them so that they won't leave him?

Is this supposed to be criticism?

 

[bigneil]

The majority of 20 year old girls do not care how much their partner is making - why would they?

There is this thing called rent. You call it Section 8. Don't worry, your EBT card will cover you and your children, and men like me will support women who are hotter than you.

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, One other thing: That online rating site is ridiculous.

Of course you say that - it proves you wrong every time.

All of you jackholes who think you can unilaterally declare which girls are hot and which girls aren't are proven wrong every time by consensus. You are always welcome to show me girls who rate higher if the ratings are exaggerated as you hope they are.

On one hand you stomp your feet and say "20 year old women don't want men over 21" and then you say "She's not that hot!!!!!", showing your bias. You are a fat woman. Admit it.

Of course they're going to rate girls highly.. considering they probably don't get any action themselves.

Prove it - show us one of your women.

 

[bigneil]

Because nobody here is willing to admit they missed the boat early

BeExcellent (who unlike SteR is a skinny versus fat woman), please enlighten me:

1) How much do you rent your house for to that 20 year old couple?
2) How much does a man who is 20 in the Navy earn?
3) How much is his daddy helping?
4) Are you admitting women want rich little boys whose daddies pays their bills? So young women do need an older man to help with the bills, but if she directly slept with him, that would be gross?

 

[SteR]

I give up with you Neil.. you're trapped in your own little world.

 

[devilkingx2]

And there's no way she just wasn't cheating either. Once a slut, always a slut imo.

the reason she was certainly cheating isn't because she has done a gangbang before, the reasons she was certainly cheating is that it's obvious she isn't ashamed of that sort of thing (I.E she still has a thirst for kinky sex) but isn't doing that with her husband (so who is she doing it with? does she just have 7 years of untapped thirst? sounds like a goldmine for any chad who meets her in a bar)

 

[devilkingx2]

You aren't even going to find hot virgins at all nowadays. I've already accepted that though so I'm not really angry or bitter like how you think. It's more like an objective fact to me now rather than an emotional opinion. Just like how the grass is green and the ocean has crashing waves, hot virgins don't exist anymore.

they do in middle school, high school and freshmen orientation at college, after that nope.

 

[BeExcellent]

BeExcellent (who unlike SteR is a skinny versus fat woman), please enlighten me:

1) How much do you rent your house for to that 20 year old couple?
2) How much does a man who is 20 in the Navy earn?
3) How much is his daddy helping?
4) Are you admitting women want rich little boys whose daddies pays their bills? So young women do need an older man to help with the bills, but if she directly slept with him, that would be gross?

It doesn't matter.

You sound like a shill at this point. You go find a college cheerleader who will date you from any of the big universities in Texas. Those are the apex of the top girls in their early 20s.

You don't have access to those kinds of women for one thing & if you did they wouldn't give you the time of day no matter how much money you wave around. Most are great students as well as great athletes.

Go rate the college cheerleaders on your site Neil. They will blow your girls out of the water. You can photograph them this fall at a stadium near you. That's as close as you'll get.

You are 47. You are supposed to have results that are tangible since you have been out of high school for 30 years. A 20 year old is just starting out. His woman marries for love, not money. Together they build a life.

At 20 years old I was a college student. Now I'm a millionaire 30 years later. Don't be ridiculous. Totally apples & oranges. You are embarrassing yourself.

Strippers are typically pretty rejects. My ex and I have a friend who was GM at a well known gentlemen's club. The stories that guy could tell you were something else. He married one for a while...she is in college, working her way through school, etc...he was divorced 2 years later to nobody's great surprise but his own. I know a man who married a Penthouse centerfold too...same result after 5 hellish years. Both those men went complete Captain Save a Ho. Both got burned. Both made great money & got hit with nasty divorce settlements.

Fall in love with strippers at your own risk.

 

[BeExcellent]

As far as happily married people, they exist. Go talk to some. You'll find a trend that they are each other's best friend. Until the OP talks to happily married people and gets real answers he is simply making assumptions that suit his premise. Don't take my word for it. Go get yourself informed.

There are virgins, and there are happily married couples. I know more than 3 dozen off the top of my head personally (happy married couples - many of whom now have raised their kids & are getting their lives as lovers back without the demands of children.) Quit looking where the party girls go. Look where there are no party girls.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

they do in middle school, high school and freshmen orientation at college, after that nope.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too lol

 

[bigneil]

(How much I rent my house to the 20 year old couple for) doesn't matter.

You sound like a shill at this point.

Fall in love with strippers at your own risk.

How much you rent your nicest house for doesn't matter?? Did you tell that to the bank when you needed them to prove on paper they could underwrite your mortgage??

Don't you spend time here telling us how nice it is that you have a cash flow??

So you're confessing that his daddy pays and that is what women want? A young, rich boy who never worked a day in his life? Funny how 20 year old men never brought my stripper back to reconnect with her father the way I did, but yet you pretend I'm corrupting her and they are the right men for her.

Your bitterness toward my younger women was obvious before, but never so obvious until now.

There you have it, folks. Older women pretend 20 year old women live happily ever after with 20 year old men - but point out that teensy little part about finances and suddenly her Disney fantasy dissolves in an instant into the welfare, trustafarian keg party of reality.

Nothing makes middle aged women more angry than middle aged men dating women half her age.

I rest my case. You are the shill. You're probably secretly Olly.

As far as happily married people, they exist. Go talk to some. .

Yes, they are called rich brats. I thought you aspired to more than subsidizing them.

 

[bigneil]

Does BeExcellent want to bet me $200 that Navy boy's daddy cosigned the lease?