If the quality of women goes down as you get older, why do a lot of you say to get married WAY later

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Not Hugh Hefner or myself.
I've gotta say Hugh Hefner is one of the worst examples of a ladies man. The girls he has are literally only with the guy for his status/money, there's no desire there - none of them give a **** about the guy. There are countless interviews with the girls he spends time with. Nothing about that man impresses me.
 

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I've gotta say Hugh Hefner is one of the worst examples of a ladies man. The girls he has are literally only with the guy for his status/money, there's no desire there - none of them give a **** about the guy. There are countless interviews with the girls he spends time with. Nothing about that man impresses me.
I'd like to take his problems with women over my own too...
 

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I've gotta say Hugh Hefner is one of the worst examples of a ladies man. The girls he has are literally only with the guy for his status/money, there's no desire there - none of them give a **** about the guy. There are countless interviews with the girls he spends time with. Nothing about that man impresses me.
He created an empire. He made hundreds of women famous, if not thousands. He had a system where 200 of the most beautiful girls in the world were always lined up to have sex with him. He (was, in his prime) up there with Will Smith and Tom Brady as men 99% of us would trade places with, IMO.
You may as well pay for hookers: That's essentially what they are...
What girls aren't? Swallow the red pill and realize the girls you think are nuns swallow too.
 

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You may as well pay for hookers: That's essentially what they are...
hookers fvck with everyone, im fine paying as long as Im the only client...after all thats what marriage is you pay for exclusivity except that its more expensive
 

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He created an empire. He made hundreds of women famous, if not thousands. He had a system where 200 of the most beautiful girls in the world were always lined up to have sex with him. He (was, in his prime) up there with Will Smith and Tom Brady as men 99% of us would trade places with, IMO.
But just look at the guy. Do you honestly think these women are sexually attracted to an elderly man? You have to be kidding me. I'm not criticising his ability as a businessman - that's admirable, but this idea that he's sexually desirable to beautiful young women is a joke.

What girls aren't? Swallow the red pill and realize the girls you think are nuns swallow too.
That's an incredibly cynical opinion, but if that's what you want to believe then go for it.

hookers fvck with everyone, im fine paying as long as Im the only client...after all thats what marriage is you pay for exclusivity except that its more expensive
Again, very cynical but if that's what to believe, fine.
 

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But just look at the guy. Do you honestly think these women are sexually attracted to an elderly man? You have to be kidding me. I'm not criticising his ability as a businessman - that's admirable, but this idea that he's sexually desirable to beautiful young women is a joke.



That's an incredibly cynical opinion, but if that's what you want to believe then go for it.



Again, very cynical but if that's what to believe, fine.
Hugh started the business in 1957 at age 31. His heyday was 1980. When Dorothy Stratten was killed by her psycho ex that probably ended his reign, but he was 54 then. He still had 30 more years of dating Playmates.

Reality and the red pill are indeed cynical.
 

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Hugh started the business in 1957 at age 31. His heyday was 1980. When Dorothy Stratten was killed by her psycho ex that probably ended his reign, but he was 54 then. He still had 30 more years of dating Playmates.

Reality and the red pill are indeed cynical.
Don't be a fool, Neil. If you think every marriage is a failure then you need to get your head checked.
 

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Don't be a fool, Neil. If you think every marriage is a failure then you need to get your head checked.
You are right! Only 51% of marriages fail.

God bless Hugh! He's still alive at 91! Testament to the power of young women.

My last girl healed me like no other. I honestly believe she healed me of Circumcision trauma when we spent the night at the site of Gone with the Wind (the string tie and her Rhett fantasy did it for her).

To put it in perspective, SteR, the girl who will one day heal you is now 6.
 

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(assuming you're not a girl but SteR you set off my female detector).
 

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Don't be a fool, Neil. If you think every marriage is a failure then you need to get your head checked.
not divorcing isn't the mark of success in a marriage, haven't you ever seen a sitcom where the old couple bickers constantly and can barely get along (I think both that 70s show and everybody loves raymond had couples like this) or the couple is one beta cuck being controlled by his bitchy wife (everybody loves raymond, king of queens, etc.)

the success of a marriage is when the marriage is actually good and enjoyable for both parties
 

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What girls aren't? Swallow the red pill and realize the girls you think are nuns swallow too.
Guys have to get this concept... women today can have sex since they're in their early teens, 14-15 with some a little bit earlier or later, and they have access to porn much earlier than that. They will already be experienced by the time they become adults, the "c0ck carousel" doesn't start at 18 or 20 or 23, it starts way earlier. Thinking about how much sex a woman has had is just a dead end. It's like thinking about how many times she's taken a sh!t today, the thought itself is both pointless and negative - for you! What matters is how good she is to you, now. The solution is to redirect your thought, free yourself from the weakness of your self-constraining, self-destructive ego. Why do you need a woman who is a virgin? is she you? do you need her to complete you?
 

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What matters is how good she is to you, now. The solution is to redirect your thought, free yourself from the weakness of your self-constraining, self-destructive ego. Why do you need a woman who is a virgin? is she you? do you need her to complete you?
This. Good post, man.
 

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Guys have to get this concept... women today can have sex since they're in their early teens, 14-15 with some a little bit earlier or later, and they have access to porn much earlier than that. They will already be experienced by the time they become adults, the "c0ck carousel" doesn't start at 18 or 20 or 23, it starts way earlier. Thinking about how much sex a woman has had is just a dead end. It's like thinking about how many times she's taken a sh!t today, the thought itself is both pointless and negative - for you! What matters is how good she is to you, now. The solution is to redirect your thought, free yourself from the weakness of your self-constraining, self-destructive ego. Why do you need a woman who is a virgin? is she you? do you need her to complete you?
I base it on:

1) Does her vagina taste like candy?
2) Did I not catch any diseases?
3) Does she turn me on 100%?
4) Does she allow me unlimited sex when we are together?
 

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Wow

Regardless of some things I see here ( and I'm very new to the red pill ethos) surely we ALL have to pay kudos on some level ( and a huge individual doff of the old hat sir) to Neil...He consistently puts himself up for scrutiny, and has a huge set of the old proverbials . And a littany of 20 something's he puts up for often unfair critique.... For what its worth Neil I expected your previous relationship to make 18 mths...but your new girl looks a bit like a former of mine and she was DYNAMITE..... Bit volatile but worth every minute.. Power on
 

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Almost none of the older men here are dating the top tier women in their 20s ...
Beautiful feminine women from great families marry young men from great families almost without exception. The families mutually support the young couple and guide them. I have new renters in one on my nicest houses. They are a young married couple, both 20 years old. The husband is in the Navy and my rent house is in a nice area and happens to be across the street from his parents. They wanted my house precisely so that the wife can be near her in-laws and with family while the husband is at sea.
I've been dating top tier women (in terms of photo ratings) since I was 41.

It was almost safe for you to say this a week after I broke up with my 21 year old. Too bad I found a 20 year old within 5 days.

Wait... men in the Navy are from great families? That's minimum wage. I almost joined the Navy in 1993 and by the grace of God I was late to the entrance exam.

Now you are taking the 20 year old women prefer 20 year old men angle? That is the most absurd thing you ever said here.
 

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@BeExcellent, please provide a working example of how a 20 year male old keeps a "top tier" (i.e., really hot, from a rich family, like my ex girlfriend) 20 year old female happy? (Note to readers: I've bedded about 40 women and ZERO were from the year I was born, or the year after). What did he do for a living? What is his salary? How much is the mortgage? What is his car payment? How much did his rich daddy chip in? Is that your point, that girls want a guy their age with a rich daddy? Ok, but only 1% will get that.

At age 47 I can just now barely keep a 20 year old woman happy.
 
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