Your thoughts on the latest abortion ruling

[Billtx49]

How does banning abortion give men equal say?

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

 

[Von]

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

Pretty much.

It was said in a freshnfit show he was on.

Basically "restraining abortion" makes a men have a say in the matter (like politically voting against abortion)

Now the ladies likely won't go in their boyfriend back for an abortion (it's harder to cover a "girl weekend out of town" than I am working late tonight)

 

[EyeBRollin]

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

So to be clear- the argument is that women are aborting babies that the baby daddy wants her to keep?

 

[Billtx49]

So to be clear- the argument is that women are aborting babies that the baby daddy wants her to keep?

The facts are that in the past his opinion and wants were not considered or asked for.
It was a her only decision granted by easy access. Men will likely have more of a say now, personally and/or through their votes…

 

[EyeBRollin]

The facts are that in the past his opinion and wants were not considered or asked for.
It was a her only decision granted by easy access. Men will likely have more of a say now, personally and/or through their votes…

What percentage of unplanned pregnancies would you say are when the man wants to keep the baby and woman does not as opposed to vice versa?

 

[Billtx49]

What percentage of unplanned pregnancies would you say are when the man wants to keep the baby and woman does not as opposed to vice versa?

That is an unanswerable question. I don’t do guesses …

 

[EyeBRollin]

That is an unanswerable question. I don’t do guesses …

Right..

Do you think the ratio is slanted more towards men wanting to keep the baby or abort the baby?

 

[Billtx49]

Right..

Do you think the ratio is slanted more towards men wanting to keep the baby or abort the baby?

Nice rephrase, still an unanswerable question.
I give my opinion based on facts.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Nice rephrase, still an unanswerable question.
I give my opinion based on facts.

Facts do not support the position that abortion is denying men fatherhood.

 

[Billtx49]

Facts do not support the position that abortion is denying men fatherhood.

Men are not victims here, abortion denies Both sexes the parenting opportunity for the sake of modern convenience …

 

[EyeBRollin]

Men are not victims here, abortion denies Both sexes the parenting opportunity for the sake of modern convenience …

Its not denying anyone the parenting opportunity. On the contrary. Criminalizing abortion just creates more illegitimate, messed up children.

 

[zekko]

What percentage of unplanned pregnancies would you say are when the man wants to keep the baby and woman does not as opposed to vice versa?

I honestly don't know the answer to this. Probably the reason why the answer is not readily available is that we've been told that the man's opinion is basically irrelevant.

Men are not victims here, abortion denies Both sexes the parenting opportunity for the sake of modern convenience …

To say nothing of denying the child a chance to have a life.

 

[Billtx49]

Its not denying anyone the parenting opportunity. On the contrary. Criminalizing abortion just creates more illegitimate, messed up children.

Hate to break it to you, but abortion is still legal in a great number of states.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The part that is States' rights is the ability to restrict abortions or not.

Last time I heard States’ rights as a legitimate argument my own grandparents were nearly beaten to death for using “whites only” services in Alabama.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Hate to break it to you, but abortion is still legal in a great number of states.

States rights is hogwash. We’ve gone through this as a country already.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

10th Amendment

The Federalist, on the New Constitution

books.google.com

it’s the law of the land. Ratified circa 1788…

read them you might learn something.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Last time I heard States’ rights as a legitimate argument my own grandparents were nearly beaten to death for using “whites only” services in Alabama.

There was a strong centralized government in Eurasia that killed over 50 million of its own citizens. One in Asia as well (still exists actually).

 

[zekko]

States rights is hogwash. We’ve gone through this as a country already.

State rights is fundamental to the country. Yes, you provided a bad example of it, a misuse of it, but that was the world at the time, and it was not unique to the United States. There's a lot of brutality in human history, medieval people were downright barbaric. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes.

Anyway, as divided as the country is, I think states rights are maybe the only way we're going to be able to live together. This way, people in some states can live they way they want, and people in other states can live the way they want. If it's a free for all for who can grab the Federal authority and then use that to browbeat everyone else into doing everything their way, that's going to get really ugly.

 

[EyeBRollin]

State rights is fundamental to the country. Yes, you provided a bad example of it, a misuse of it, but that was the world at the time, and it was not unique to the United States.

The misuse of it in that example was for almost 200 years; a clear majority of the United States history. That indicates it was not an exception but the rule. States rights is malarkey. Don’t let history repeat itself.

 

[Pandora]

When you see the aspect of female nature throwing a hissy fit over murdering babies, 80% + divorce initiated by women, the stat of cuckoldry in the UK, and a number of things, you see how repugnant and repulsive modern women are.


It's less than 1% worth as damn outside busting a nut. The same women champion vaccine and now want talk their body after the promotion of government mandates. Gtfo!

I totally agree bro.