Your thoughts on the latest abortion ruling

[Hamurabimbi]

I’ve a a few ‘missed period’ scares. But never once was abortion even discussed. I could never live with myself if I encouraged a girl to abort.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Letting the church run the state is the way of life in Iran, Afghanistan, and everywhere they have sharia law. They are our new role models.

Actually, it’s the other way around. Allowing elected representatives to decide whether abortion should be legal is democratic. Having unelected judicial officials make that decision by decree is not. Roe v. Wade was a product of woke taliban.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The extent to which all the states must agree, as well as congress, makes it nearly impossible to amend the constitution. The procedures were created back when there were just 13 states.

Difficult but not impossible. The most recent amendment to the Constitution took place in 1992. There were also a bunch of other amendments ratified in the 20th century, when the number of states was no drastically different from the present day.

Constitutional amendments are meant to be for things that people widely agree upon (i.e. the number of terms a person can serve as president), not highly divisive and controversial issues.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

You do know that smoking makes the pill not work, right? It also happens from secondhand smoke for women who have to work around smokers in bars and restaurants.

Bananas are also yellow.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The worry would be under this system is that the constitution is hundreds of years old, it’s like basing your life on a book written thousands of years ago ;-)

It is easily one of the most relevant and beautiful documents of its kind in the world, alongside the Magna Carta, the Cyrus cylinder and others.

 

[Fruitbat]

The extent to which all the states must agree, as well as congress, makes it nearly impossible to amend the constitution. The procedures were created back when there were just 13 states.

Same issue with the EU. Getting all those countries to agree to anything is nigh on impossible.

It makes the point that democracy is best served locally, which is incidentally one of the reasons I believe the US has been so successful. Nobody else, as yet, has managed to harness such a large body of people and land into one broadly aligned force. I believe this is due to the local power states have (and it’s quite high compared to other blocs)

It’s kind of the point on this thread and this issue. Local states should weild the bulk of day to day power

 

[Fruitbat]

Roe v wade was based on a stack of lies, enough said there. But I am pro choice at the end of the day because if you outlaw anything out will just move to the black market.

even things like snuff movies and minor abuse etc?

You can’t legalise things on the basis they’re going to happen anyway.

I am pro choice (but also pro shame, it’s not something to be proud of) but I had the same thought as you recently, and after much thought I realised that the fact things happen shouldn’t qualify it to being decriminalised.

 

[Travel memoir21]

If you’re a closet conservative dude going to these pro choice rallies just to get poon tang….

you’re selling your soul.

 

[HaleyBaron]

If you’re a closet conservative dude going to these pro choice rallies just to get poon tang….

you’re selling your soul.

Those rallies never have the best girls, either, so it's like going to a bargain bin at the dollar store.

 

[Kotaix]

even things like snuff movies and minor abuse etc?

You can’t legalise things on the basis they’re going to happen anyway.

I am pro choice (but also pro shame, it’s not something to be proud of) but I had the same thought as you recently, and after much thought I realised that the fact things happen shouldn’t qualify it to being decriminalised.

Your point is very valid.

But I'm not sure these things are necessarily relatable. There ARE cases where abortions are an act of mercy. Minor abuse is never going to be merciful. And snuff films... well it's not illegal to die, it's just immoral to exploit them; and most snuff films are fake.

It's a gray area, which is where the controversy comes from. I think the majority of pro-choice people are completely turned off by the current propositions to terminate pregnancy when the fetus is viable and especially post-birth "abortions" that basically allow for infanticide as was proposed in california recently.

As always, good intentions and discussions are ruined by extremists from both sides of the argument.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I'm not american but given the same result in the european union I wouldnt care honestly.

There are pro and cons on both sides.

Pros are that women will be forced to handle the conseguences of their actions as much as experiencing on their own skin the amazing feeling of government interference in their private life.

Cons are that many people which I would be happy to see not to reproduce will in fact reproduce.

Either case a woman capable of getting rid of her own baby is not someone I would welcome in my life.

 

[Von]

Like Rollo tomassi says:

Abortion is the last fail-safe of hypergamy.

Men will now have a say, équal footing on the master.

Abortion wasnt abolish but left To thé state level

 

[Reyaj]

I’m replying directly to your post, left as an exercise for the reader.

I never even stated if I was pro life or pro choice just that I believe in the need of federal government. States can change from left to right as well.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Ok, but on a serious note I am obviously not in favor of women having 100% control of birth. A woman could laugh in your face then terminate your offspring. She could lie to you about taking the pill, refuse to get an abortion, then collect child support from you. I agree with the Iron Rule of Tomassi about controlling birth. Always use your own protection.

 

[redskinsfan92]

The economic cost of banning abortion is in the billions. We're all going to pay, because religious nutballs control the Supreme Court. Abortion bans keep women from working and paying taxes, and they end up taking more in social services instead of contributing to the economy.

But everyone here wants more of their tax dollars to go to welfare, right? That's what our Taliban of a Supreme Court is accomplishing.

I saw stats where poor women are having kids despite abortion access. It's single women making $47k+ a year getting abortions. I suspect the only change really will be the women between those two groups will be more proactive in using birth control with the loss of their failsafe.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I saw stats where poor women are having kids despite abortion access. It's single women making $47k+ a year getting abortions. I suspect the only change really will be the women between those two groups will be more proactive in using birth control with the loss of their failsafe.

Why wouldn't they? It's free money for 18 years and they are poor.

 

[redskinsfan92]

 

[wifehunter]

 

[wifehunter]

 

[EyeBRollin]

Like Rollo tomassi says:

Abortion is the last fail-safe of hypergamy.

Men will now have a say, équal footing on the master.

Abortion wasnt abolish but left To thé state level

How does banning abortion give men equal say?