You have to be a borderline Sociopath to get respect from modern women

[Burroughs]

MEN...NEVER EVER GET MARRIED...EVER
You will be signing a legal contract with an irrational, illogical manipulator
and then you will lose in the male meat grinder called Divorce Court.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I must disagree here. Women have sex for many reasons, probably the least is orgasm. For sure, every woman's primary goal is to go through life on her back. All women are wh0res. However, they have sex for more reasons than just orgasm or to further their wh0re careers. There have been many threads on it, just not so much lately.

Outside of pleasure, kids and material gain.. what other reason is there for a woman to have sex? I'd really like to know.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Perhaps, but I've treated girls slept with like so and it's backfired.

I think people are getting confused with a being a jerk to get girls with being able to protect her. Anyone can be a jerk, but it's hard to put a price on knowing how to play the game and being confident.

For people who say marriage is against the man, worthless, pointless, she will kill you, she will take all your money and sleep with others, OK, but how are all your friends and coworkers getting married and having kids? Do they know the game that much better than you and are that much smarter? Don't think many would admit that.

Also, it's way to protect yourself. If you don't get married, you can use the excuse above. If you do get married, you can say it's because the girl fell so in love with your charms that you had no choice but to give in.

What point are you trying to make here? That some men are nice and still manage to get p*ssy from attractive women.. plus get married?

And you believe a man should be jealous of all his married friends and co-workers?

Just because the majority of people do something.. that doesn't make it smart. You will always get the stink-eye when you go against the heard of sheep that is humankind.

Men who get married in 2013 are ignorant, whipped, morons (or religious.. which basically means the same thing). Getting married is the same as placing your money and your nut-sack into a woman's handbag.

I've never understood why men are so quick to trust women with their lives. I will never bet my long-term finances and stability on something as fickle as a woman's emotions.

Why don't rich and successful women marry average Joe's? Why won't Demi Lovato marry the Subway sandwich artist with the 6-pack abs? Even with the laws in favor of women... most of them are still not stupid enough to risk losing half their sh!t in a divorce.

Men are just morons. Hypnotized by cute smiles and open legs.

 

[Mike32ct]

I'm not saying I'm a bad-boy, but I am saying that women often perceive me as high value. Which is ultimately what we are talking about.


See the problem here is that all men have a different perspective based on their past experience with women, and the value that women place upon them.

Understood.

Or to put it more ssuccinctly.....The higher your value, the sluttier women become.

That is signature quote worthy.

Consider a scale of 1-10, 1 being the lowest value and 10 being the highest value. The farther up the scale you are, the more women throw themselves at you (thus the perception of being slutty). The lower you are on the scale, the fewer numbers of women throw themselves at you (thus the perception of there being more quality girls out there).


In other words, women will throw themselves at the 9 and 10's, but make the 4's and 5's wait. The perception created of course is that the male 4's and 5's think that only some girls are slutty and that many don't give it up easy. But the high value men know better. They have been around the block and experienced Hypergamy for what it is. The girl who makes a 5 wait will give it up quickly to the high value 9. So this now creates a dichotomy amongst men in their ability to identify sluts.

Yes the principle is solid. Although a 4 or 5 guy isn't technically on the map lol. A 6 guy with game can get occassional a$s even if he has to wait. But yes, generally, you are spot on.

Here you have an ARMY of men who insist said girl isn't a slut, but the minority of 9s and 10s all agree that she is. Who do you believe?

This is why I often state that to truly know women, you have to walk both sides of the scale, being low value and being high value. Thus the problem for higher value men who have discovered this about women, the question then becomes, how do we determine what is a "quality girl"?

Good question.

 

[SamTheHobit]

@Danger

Every one has there own veiw of the ideal girl friend.

But a quality girlfriend is a Virgin with Christian values.

Rare, but they are out there.

 

[zekko]

I didn't say you have to be a borderline sociopath to get p*ssy, a hot girlfriend or a hot wife. I said you have to be a borderline sociopath to get RESPECT.

I know a lot of women like to bad mouth or complain about their husbands. But I don't see any evidence to suggest that sociopaths get more respect.

In other words, women will throw themselves at the 9 and 10's, but make the 4's and 5's wait. The perception created of course is that the male 4's and 5's think that only some girls are slutty and that many don't give it up easy. But the high value men know better.

Well, I agree that women will give it up readily to the right guy. That just goes along with high interest. I don't see that as being "slvtty" though. Slvtty behavior is defined by how they deal with other men. If they are "gaming" multiple men and giving it up to numerous men, that is slvtty behavior. I've always thought it was fairly easy to identify these girls, you just have to observe them a bit - especially when they are around men, and especially when they think you're not looking.

I've always had a problem with the term "bad boy", maybe it's just me. You define it as a high value male, but I would define him as a loser type. Like the convict types Backbreaker was talking about recently. He may be flopping on other people's couches. To my thinking, a high value male is the exact opposite of what a bad boy is.

 

[Down Low]

Here you have an ARMY of men who insist said girl isn't a slut, but the minority of 9s and 10s all agree that she is. Who do you believe?

This is why I often state that to truly know women, you have to walk both sides of the scale, being low value and being high value. Thus the problem for higher value men who have discovered this about women, the question then becomes, how do we determine what is a "quality girl"?

Quality has always been, and will always be, determined by a girl's suitability for marriage. Does she menstruate yet? Is she still a virgin? Are her breasts and hips large enough to promise good performance in child rearing? Or too large (does she eat too much)? Does she obey her father? How well does she cook, clean, and care for children? Does she remain silent until addressed, and then speak discretely? Does she like finery?

Most women over 18 fail the second question. After the fourth, almost all are eliminated. Developed countries simply do not produce quality women. Therefore, men in developed countries should not be expected to marry.

 

[SgtSplacker]

The term "badboy" is a little misleading. Too many people here think the badboy is some dude wearing a leather jacket. And by association try to disprove the badboy theories by stating that their nerdy friend is dating a hot chick.

A person can be regarded as a badboy for different reasons in different forums. The most obvious example is that exec at the office driving a Porsche that every intern is after. Is he beating up people with brass knuckles at meetings? Of course not. Can he go to any dive bar and expect to pick up? Of course not. Can the brass knuckles guy get an office job and have his pick of women like the exec guy? of course not.

A badboy in the context of what turns women on, is any man that can create a distinction for himself among other men in any particular forum. A leader in his particular field of interest. And the default field of interest is physical bravado and strength for many women that do not have their own hobbies/interests.

Different strokes for different folks.

I believe the underlying allure of the bad boy lay in his success in whatever field a particular female also has an interest in. Female admiration and desire lay in her interests.

In the end it all boils down to women just trying to choose the most successful guy they can be with at the time. If you lose that appeal "you're gonna have a bad time..." And by association you MUST stay active in your field of expertise to keep her engaged. Otherwise she will grow restless and start s h i t testing you.

The tuff guy keeps picking fights.
The nerd stays intellectual.
The office exec keeps earning top dollar.
The cool guy keeps popping wheelies.

And of course there are those women that have low self esteem that are just happy with any dude they like. I believe this represents maybe 8% of relationships.

A woman will always pick the best man she can get.
A man should always try to be the best man he can be.

This is how dating works.

 

[Crazystarf]

The funny thing is the 'provider' role isn't a bad one PROVIDED YOU GET TO OWN THE WOMAN AFTER MARRIAGE LIKE 2 MILLION YEARS OF HUMAN HISTORY.

She is your property...no rights...you provide her food and shelter she provides you puzzy and children

in 2013 a woman marries a provider....SHE OWNS YOU!. her puzzy is hers and her children belong to her and the STATE

now what kind of faggot bait and switch is that?!

and why do so few men get this??????

...until its waaaayyy too late

like this man http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329

Basically she's chewing off the hand that feeds.

 

[zekko]

I don't think anyone has the slightest idea what a bad boy really is. Spackler says "leader in his field of interest"? Wtf? Why would you call such a person a "bad boy"? Guys define a bad boy as whatever is useful at the time to make whatever point they are trying to make.

As far as women go, I think they just define bad boy as any good looking muscular guy in a white t-shirt.

I've always thought of them as a guy probably too rebellious to hold down a job, and if he ever does get a wife or girlfriend he will cheat on her.

 

[lgbs2004]

I've always thought of them as a guy probably too rebellious to hold down a job, and if he ever does get a wife or girlfriend he will cheat on her.

^^ This is my definition of a badboy. Spot on zekko!

 

[PlayHer Man]

I don't think anyone has the slightest idea what a bad boy really is. Spackler says "leader in his field of interest"? Wtf? Why would you call such a person a "bad boy"? Guys define a bad boy as whatever is useful at the time to make whatever point they are trying to make.

As far as women go, I think they just define bad boy as any good looking muscular guy in a white t-shirt.

I've always thought of them as a guy probably too rebellious to hold down a job, and if he ever does get a wife or girlfriend he will cheat on her.

A bad boys is a man that uses women as jizz-dumpsters and nothing more. Simple as that. He deals with women on his own terms rather than giving into whatever society "expects" him to do in a relationship.

Nothing complex about it.

 

[Chris9128]

It shouldn't work this way because we're "a civilised society" but it's still true and probably always will be for the vast majority of women, that the most successful man is the one that displays the most masculine traits.

All you have to do is look at the animal kingdom, the males are always fighting for the female's attention (in most cases anyway). She will pick the male that is either more dominant, attractive or a better fighter.

There is no room for feminine traits like empathy etc. in this game, it doesn't mean however that the woman is completely void of empathy or humility, it's just that she needs the most dominant male to ensure the highest chances of survival for her young. It's as simple as that.
I also refer to it as a game because a girl may appear to be completely evil if she thinks you want her in a sexual way, but if she sees you as a friend etc. she will forget her primal programming and be a normal human being. So you shouldn't take rejection personally, it's just the game.

 

[Burroughs]

Basically she's chewing off the hand that feeds.

This is why I state modern man is 100% faggotized moron

He keeps chasing puzzy blindly...while that same puzzy is trying to bankrupt and poison him....after she keeps his money!

...I mean that is some real clown faggot sh!t

men collectively are too stupid to realize whats happening all around them

man's addiction to moist puzzy and a mother figure blind him to the parasitic nature of the very women he covets.

This is the fundamental reason women laugh at men: women know they are out to destroy men...yet men still blindly want to stick their pee pees into them...this is the height of stupidity to women.

 

[dutchmaster]

Good thing I am a borderline sociopath then

 

[Smok1nAce]

yesterday i went to the fair with my dad. we both got hit on multiple times, my dad is "over the hill" and im 22. my dad would talk to the women and i could clearly sniff out an AW when i see one. i kept signaling him to cut it short and move on, but his reply was "oh see just being nice", You cant just see the generational gap between us.
a little later in the night we sat down to grab something to eat and the table next to us was 30 year old men doing obviously obnoxious downright idiotic things to impress the women. me and my dad jus stayed in aww at them, we could see a couple of them glance over at us to for a sign of acceptance (or some sh!t). While the women they where with kept egging them on.

 

[sambwoy]

Lets be honest fellas, none of us is really a nice guy, we have been either because we were afraid of the punishment for not being such or because we tough that such behaviour would have grant us some benefit.

You mean how we were raised when we were younger? If that's the case, yes I agree. We had this system of morality, etiquette and manners rammed down our throats a lot by our elders in school, making us feel bad about our own desires rather than focus on education. I grew afraid of fighting that system, learning to my frustation that many of those things are farcical and doesn't get you the girl.

Is it just me thinking this?

 

[Poonani Maker]

yesterday i went to the fair with my dad. we both got hit on multiple times, my dad is "over the hill" and im 22. my dad would talk to the women and i could clearly sniff out an AW when i see one. i kept signaling him to cut it short and move on, but his reply was "oh see just being nice", You cant just see the generational gap between us.
a little later in the night we sat down to grab something to eat and the table next to us was 30 year old men doing obviously obnoxious downright idiotic things to impress the women. me and my dad jus stayed in aww at them, we could see a couple of them glance over at us to for a sign of acceptance (or some sh!t). While the women they where with kept egging them on.

You have a cool dad. Mine did the same when I was your age. We even went to a t!ttie joint, he didn't partake, but I did. We'd go to bars together, I was almost thru university, and he'd chat up waitresses and just have em eating outta his hand, it IS a different generation where women were treated nicely, waitress or non-waitress (just random woman), and they returned the favor and let you speak on and on so long as you had class in your conversation. Try to treat em "nice" now, heh, they almost all hate their job and look at the cellphone every chance they can get, even On the job. There are still good young women though that are not all wrapped up in the latest "fashion," few and far between though that can recognize shown class in conversation.

 

[BMX]

OMG preach the word PlayHer Man!

 

[HedoRick]

I've been getting closer and closer to becoming a pure douche as the days go by. It's harder for me to assimilate these characteristics thanks to a very Beta Christian upbringing. I grew up watching my mom boss my old man around. I thought that's the way things were supposed to be. Depressing... Anyways loved reading this thread. Great responses throughout.