You have to be a borderline Sociopath to get respect from modern women

[PlayHer Man]

Again, is there no middle ground here? I've never had the ambition to be a big time player, I just want to be able to get the women I want when I want. Usually the guys who complain about girls being sociopaths are the guys who want the LTRs, and they're wondering why they can't find suitable partners. If you're just looking for sex, what does it matter if they're sociopaths? If anything, that probably makes it easier.

And I am certainly not getting dominated by my girlfriend. Although you are right, there are a lot of them.


Right. The thing that has always driven me nuts about pickup circles is all the black and white thinking.

If a lot of modern women didn't have such crappy personalities and values.. maybe more men would want more than sex from them.

But me personally.. I can't stand the modern hypocrisy in dating where a man needs to act like a man but a woman can act however she wants. I'm just so turned off by it that I have lost all interest in LTR's with women. Call me butthurt if you want.. but women just don't measure up to me. They want too much and give too little.

I just see women as toys to enjoy for a period of time and then move on. I don't take romantic relationships or women in general seriously anymore.

 

[Burroughs]

but women just don't measure up to me. They want too much and give too little.

I just see women as toys to enjoy for a period of time and then move on. I don't take romantic relationships or women in general seriously anymore.

Most men have no sense of their own intrinsic worth so they grovel at the feet of any entitled poontang that saunters by.

Remember a man coming into any sort of awareness will be shamed by the masses of femcvnts and faggots like zarky who surround us...

infact that is the key to knowing them....shaming of any kind is fundamentally a power grab...academics, faggots, liberals, femcvnts all lust for power at the expense of men...its high time we as men let these cretins drown and rebuild the world in our own esteem and value

 

[floydb25]

If a lot of modern women didn't have such crappy personalities and values.. maybe more men would want more than sex from them.

But me personally.. I can't stand the modern hypocrisy in dating where a man needs to act like a man but a woman can act however she wants. I'm just so turned off by it that I have lost all interest in LTR's with women. Call me butthurt if you want.. but women just don't measure up to me. They want too much and give too little.

I just see women as toys to enjoy for a period of time and then move on. I don't take romantic relationships or women in general seriously anymore.

Word. Interestingly, many women have the same views, and do the same thing - despite denying it, beating around the bush, and claiming otherwise. In the end, facts are facts, and the result is clear. Doesn't matter WTF they say, or how they try to make it out be. It's all fluff, anyway. But I guess it works out for everyone, eh?

...Except for those who believe the BS, and end up getting played. Ooooooh...

In any event, it still doesn't stop the women from *****ing and feeling entitled, though. :cheer:

I think a lot of people are just come-and-go types, anyway. Not a lot of people are going to remain in your life for a very long time, and this is the mindset / expectation you should have going in. Just enjoy your time with people while it lasts, and that's it. No big deal. Don't make them your priority, or depend on them. Not a lot of people are of genuine quality, or worth keeping around, anyway.

****, I was friends with fake people from back home for years. Moved down here; didn't necessarily "replace" them, but got rid of 'em all the same. Not lonely or desperate or worried about meeting new people, or making friends. Same with women. It is whatever.

Don't ever expect too much from people, or you'll be disappointed when they can't be everything you wanted.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Word. Interestingly, many women have the same views, and do the same thing - despite denying it, beating around the bush, and claiming otherwise. In the end, facts are facts, and the result is clear. Doesn't matter WTF they say, or how they try to make it out be. It's all fluff, anyway. But I guess it works out for everyone, eh?

...Except for those who believe the BS, and end up getting played. Ooooooh...

In any event, it still doesn't stop the women from *****ing and feeling entitled, though. :cheer:

I think a lot of people are just come-and-go types, anyway. Not a lot of people are going to remain in your life for a very long time, and this is the mindset / expectation you should have going in. Just enjoy your time with people while it lasts, and that's it. No big deal. Don't make them your priority, or depend on them. Not a lot of people are of genuine quality, or worth keeping around, anyway.

****, I was friends with fake people from back home for years. Moved down here; didn't necessarily "replace" them, but got rid of 'em all the same. Not lonely or desperate or worried about meeting new people, or making friends. Same with women. It is whatever.

Don't ever expect too much from people, or you'll be disappointed when they can't be everything you wanted.

I agree 100%. Its the main thing I've recently learned about relationships in general. Its true when they say: "You're born alone and you die alone".

The world only cares about what it can get from you and nothing more. So its best to have the same attitude with the world itself. Time spent worrying about other people is often time wasted.

 

[Crazystarf]

Treat each woman as a separate country/culture.

Stop applying the same techniques to different women.

Shut off your interior monologue and penetrate their way of thinking.

Isn't the whole point of game about learning how the mentality of women work and stuff? In a generation where the number of AFCs are increasing more and more, the basic rules of relationships and courtship must be adjusted in order to adapt towards the ever changing female psychology.

You are right that all women are different in some ways from each other; it doesn't hurt for you to know the basics on how their minds work however.

 

[Zarky]

Isn't the whole point of game about learning how the mentality of women work and stuff?

Um, sort of. Learning game is like learning anything. You learn basic rules and then, when you become advanced, you break those rules when necessary.

The basic rules of "game" are basic enough to make sure you don't get totally played and look like a pathetic tool. However, if you slavishly follow those rules, assuming all women are exactly alike, you will stay a beginner.

You become intermediate when you start to break the rules when necessary. You're advanced when you can break all the rules and still come out on top. :crazy:

 

[( . )( . )]

Um, sort of. Learning game is like learning anything. You learn basic rules and then, when you become advanced, you break those rules when necessary.

The basic rules of "game" are basic enough to make sure you don't get totally played and look like a pathetic tool. However, if you slavishly follow those rules, assuming all women are exactly alike, you will stay a beginner.

UMMMMMM!

Dammit woman, if your going to continue the charade and troll amongst men as a man at least look up the word "congruence".
Here your saying not all women are like that NAWALT™, yet in every other thread you (poorly) attempt to shame men for dumping our "modern women". Kind of damned if they do and damned if they don't eh?

You become intermediate when you start to break the rules when necessary.

I'll say. :crazy:

 

[zekko]

Generally speaking, women tend to share certain characteristics. But there are personality differences too. You can no more say all women are alike than you can say all men are alike.

Some guys want to pump and dump, some like to maintain a regular stable of FBs, some spin plates until they meet a girl they like, some serial date, some want to get married and have a family, some want a wife but are lifelong cheaters.

Pook even said that once you reached an advanced level, all the PUA rules would seem ridiculous. They are often described as training wheels, and that sounds like a pretty apt description to me.

 

[betheman]

of course not all women are the same, but then neither are men, yet how often do we hear...'men! they are all the same!'

one common facet among women though is that of the bad boy, it might not always be the same bad boy but there will be a bad boy who does it for a woman like no AFC does.
the pattern and behaviour is obvious, woman get with the bad boy in youth, gets pumped and dumped, played, ocassionally they may say fccuck this, I dont like it and settle for an AFC, or they may continue well into their 20's banging their head against the brick wall in the vain hope the bad boy will settle down and live happy ever after, then there are those who will also seem to be addicted to the bad boy like crack, settle for an AFC, have the kids and the lifestyle and yet still long for the thrill of getting rawdogged by the baddie...and do.

 

[Zarky]

of course not all women are the same, but then neither are men, yet how often do we hear...'men! they are all the same!'

That's true, few things bug me more than when women say "Men love the chase!" All men aren't the same, and personally I refuse to chase women.

 

[zekko]

one common facet among women though is that of the bad boy, it might not always be the same bad boy but there will be a bad boy who does it for a woman like no AFC does.
the pattern and behaviour is obvious, woman get with the bad boy in youth, gets pumped and dumped, played, ocassionally they may say fccuck this, I dont like it and settle for an AFC, or they may continue well into their 20's banging their head against the brick wall in the vain hope the bad boy will settle down and live happy ever after, then there are those who will also seem to be addicted to the bad boy like crack, settle for an AFC, have the kids and the lifestyle and yet still long for the thrill of getting rawdogged by the baddie...and do.

I will never understand the fascination sites like this have with bad boys. I know plenty of attractive girls in their early 20s who are with good men. This whole "girls bang bad boys until they hit the wall when they turn 30, then marry an AFC. While fvcking the bad boy behind is back" is utter garbage. I mean yeah, some girls follow that script, but there are plenty who do not. And any women who do follow that script should be avoided like the plague.

I think part of it is simply jealousy. Guys like a girl, but she likes some other dude - well of course that other dude is garbage, she doesn't know she should be with me instead. Or the girl doesn't want me, she prefers this other guy who is an @sshole. It's sour grapes. Just because the girl isn't attracted to you, that doesn't make her a sociopath.

 

[SamTheHobit]

This whole "girls bang bad boys until they hit the wall when they turn 30, then marry an AFC. While fvcking the bad boy behind is back" is utter garbage.

Agreed, I used to think that way because I was meeting a slew of girls one after the other, mix that with over thinking and you quickly garner that mindset.
I've recently been meeting alot more women thus encountering quality women, although it being low... There are more quality women than one would think and I'm sure there's enough for all the members of this site

Or maybe I'm suffering from delusions of grandeur. I don't really know any more.





I think I need to see a therapist.

 

[zekko]

Now, perhaps I'm a little at fault for running some game on her. But without a doubt she has no problem fishing around while her bf knows nothing about it. Oh, and now she is talking about showing me all of the pictures on her phone and constantly qualifying herself to me.

Are you saying you're a bad boy, Danger?

Anyway, I know of plenty examples like that as well. Even married young girls who will screw anything that moves, all the while protesting about what a chaste and pure "good girl" she is. She's not fooling anyone. There is no shortage of slvtty women, or women who seek attention, or women who might give in to temptation when pushed.

What I'm saying is not all girls are like this, and more importantly I know plenty of good guys who have attractive women in tow. It takes different strokes to move the world and all that. And I'm not saying the girls won't put the knife in one day. I'm a firm believer that most relationships have a shelf life, and usually it will be the woman who ends things first. But that's a seperate issue, I don't think that necessarily makes her a hosebag. It's just the new reality in today's culture with no morality and increased life expectancies.

 

[Burroughs]

And I'm not saying the girls won't put the knife in one day. I'm a firm believer that most relationships have a shelf life, and usually it will be the woman who ends things first. But that's a seperate issue, I don't think that necessarily makes her a hosebag. It's just the new reality in today's culture with no morality and increased life expectancies.

No that is exactly THE issue

because when the 'shelf life' ends not only is the man paying for the shelf...he is paying for the house as well

when the woman decides to end it she's taking the house, half the assets, and alimony..if you have kids...forget about it.. you're a slave for 20+ years even into grad school years...say hello to cans of beans while the ex dines off of steak on your money!

your 'new reality' for a woman is penury and financial ruin for the man

women know this all too well down to a science even if they don't let the boyfriend on this little nuggets of reality ....and this is what makes them 'hosebags'.

this is why women laugh at men for being stupid...men literally know that 'women will stick the knife in them' and yet they still treat women well...puzzy is a hell of a drug

men's driving need to be moronically stoic (read alpha lol) in the midst of women's wanton and brazen parasitism and destruction of the man is truly remarkable.

 

[betheman]

This whole "girls bang bad boys until they hit the wall when they turn 30, then marry an AFC. While fvcking the bad boy behind is back" is utter garbage. I mean yeah, some girls follow that script, but there are plenty who do not. And any women who do follow that script should be avoided like the plague.

I dont know who you are quoting but you are contradicting yourself arent you? you say its all garbage and yet state some do and give examples of those you know personally who do???
you probably think some women dont but you will never know for sure, personally the women Ive met who fit the 'good girl' criteria, are in the minority

 

[zekko]

because when the 'shelf life' ends not only is the man paying for the shelf...he is paying for the house as well

Totally agree with you, Burroughs. I can't reccomend marriage in this day and age.

I dont know who you are quoting but you are contradicting yourself arent you? you say its all garbage and yet state some do and give examples of those you know personally who do???

What I meant was garbage was the idea that all women follow that course. Some do, some don't. It's like the title of this thread, "You have to be a sociopath to get respect from modern women". Well, no, you don't have to be. Some women go for sociopaths, but to say that women only go for sociopaths is completely ridiculous. There are plenty of attraction factors at a man's disposal that do not require you to be a psycopath. Try being a man of value instead.

You're right, it is hard to find a "good girl". But you know what, it's hard to find a good man, too. Pickup sites that push the idea that you have to be some sort of jerk, @sshole, or sociopath to be successful with women are just going to make good men even scarcer. Which in turn will make good women scarcer, because men are the leaders. And that's unfortunate, and unneccessary.

 

[PlayHer Man]

What I meant was garbage was the idea that all women follow that course. Some do, some don't. It's like the title of this thread, "You have to be a sociopath to get respect from modern women". Well, no, you don't have to be. Some women go for sociopaths, but to say that women only go for sociopaths is completely ridiculous. There are plenty of attraction factors at a man's disposal that do not require you to be a psycopath. Try being a man of value instead.

Look.. the reality is.. women only get into sexual relationships for two reasons:

1. Pure fun and rough headboard-breaking sex that wakes the neighbors.

2. To further her position in life (marriage, kids, money, status).

THAT IS IT. Like Burroughs already said: Women are parasitic in nature.

There is really no such thing as a "good girl".. a good girl is just a girl who has found the best man she can get and knows it. If she thinks even for a second she can "level up" she will stick the knife in his back faster than he can blink.. and with no guilt. That's what he gets for not being "good enough" she will tell herself.

These "good men" with hot girlfriends are most likely "providers" who spoil them and help finance their lifestyle in some way. Does she respect them? That is anyone's guess. From what I've seen the majority of women don't respect their husbands at all. My married female co-workers talk about their husbands like they are children. No respect.

Why no respect? Because those guys are not borderline sociopaths.. like I said in the OP.

I didn't say you have to be a borderline sociopath to get p*ssy, a hot girlfriend or a hot wife. I said you have to be a borderline sociopath to get RESPECT.

You're right, it is hard to find a "good girl". But you know what, it's hard to find a good man, too. Pickup sites that push the idea that you have to be some sort of jerk, @sshole, or sociopath to be successful with women are just going to make good men even scarcer. Which in turn will make good women scarcer, because men are the leaders. And that's unfortunate, and unneccessary.

Well who started it? All was well when men slapped women around and kept them in the kitchen making grilled cheese sandwiches. The second men started feeling like azzholes and gave women a little freedom.. what happened? Did they appreciate it? Did they return the favor? NOPE. They became stuck up materialistic c*nts / prostitutes.

They kept chasing the bad boys.. the same men who would of slapped them around in 1950. Then they marry the nice guys because they have more control over them. Then they bang the mailman and tell the nice guy its his kid. They refuse to cook and clean because its not 1950, yet they still expect the man to take out the trash and take a bullet if someone breaks into the house.

Open your eyes bro.

 

[Burroughs]

The funny thing is the 'provider' role isn't a bad one PROVIDED YOU GET TO OWN THE WOMAN AFTER MARRIAGE LIKE 2 MILLION YEARS OF HUMAN HISTORY.

She is your property...no rights...you provide her food and shelter she provides you puzzy and children

in 2013 a woman marries a provider....SHE OWNS YOU!. her puzzy is hers and her children belong to her and the STATE

now what kind of faggot bait and switch is that?!

and why do so few men get this??????

...until its waaaayyy too late

like this man http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329

 

[Down Low]

Look.. the reality is.. women only get into sexual relationships for two reasons:

1. Pure fun and rough headboard-breaking sex that wakes the neighbors.

2. To further her position in life (marriage, kids, money, status).

THAT IS IT.

I must disagree here. Women have sex for many reasons, probably the least is orgasm. For sure, every woman's primary goal is to go through life on her back. All women are wh0res. However, they have sex for more reasons than just orgasm or to further their wh0re careers. There have been many threads on it, just not so much lately.

 

[Trump]

I agree with being a dyck and treating all women like wh0res until they prove otherwise.

Perhaps, but I've treated girls slept with like so and it's backfired.

I think people are getting confused with a being a jerk to get girls with being able to protect her. Anyone can be a jerk, but it's hard to put a price on knowing how to play the game and being confident.

For people who say marriage is against the man, worthless, pointless, she will kill you, she will take all your money and sleep with others, OK, but how are all your friends and coworkers getting married and having kids? Do they know the game that much better than you and are that much smarter? Don't think many would admit that.

Also, it's way to protect yourself. If you don't get married, you can use the excuse above. If you do get married, you can say it's because the girl fell so in love with your charms that you had no choice but to give in.