Eternal, the same could be said about any topic ever discussed on this site. Personally, I think there should be a whole forum section devoted to Online Dating. That way, anyone who isn't interested doesn't have to see the topics and those who are can post freely. I mean, There is a High School section, a Mature man section that helps those people deal with special issues that pertain only to them. The same should be done for Online Dating...and the fact is, by ignoring how popular it is, this site is way behind the times. There needs to be some kind of guide on here to help people utilize online dating and do it right.
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Whole forum? WHOLE forum? Please tell me you are kidding Wyldfire.
Online dating does not deserve a whole forum. There are a few threads about it already. That is like saying Hair Styles needs to have its own forum because it's widely discussed.
Online dating does not deserve a whole forum. There are a few threads about it already. That is like saying Hair Styles needs to have its own forum because it's widely discussed.
Yes, it needs a separate forum. You cannot cover all the facets of Online Dating in one or two threads. There are more single women from your area on internet dating sites than there are in any club you go to.
Those people who utilize the services have questions about individual girls they talk to or meet that require a thread of their own. Trying to stuff all the issues regarding online dating into a couple of threads would be like sticking all questions about whether or not to "Next" someone in one thread. It would be painfully long and totally off topic. You just can't do it.
When I first came here, I noticed a need for a forum for more mature men. I voiced that opinion right here in this very forum. Of course, many people swore up and down it was a dumb idea...but some saw the same need I did. And what do you know...now there is a Mature Men forum, just as there should be.
I'll say it again...there should be an Online Dating forum, perhaps with a few sticky threads for tips, how to create a profile, basic rules of using the services and a bootcamp. The rest would be filled with questions about particular situations in no time. In fact, it would be a very active and popular forum....AND it would keep all the Online dating subjects in one area.
Nearly 2/3 of the American population is online. Out of those Americans, 26% use the internet to meet new people and find dates.
Here is a link to the statistics:
http://www.pewtrusts.org/ideas/idea...=10&page=8&name=Grantee Reports?source=google
The current population of the US is:
294,870,591 people.
So, roughly 196,580,394 Americans are connected to the internet.
So, about 51,110,902 Americans use online dating sites...about 26%. Around 25.5 million of them are women.
There are 25.5 million women in this country using online dating sites right now. That number continues to grow. I think it's kind of foolish to NOT check out what's available from online dating sites. Anyone who doesn't is limiting themselves to the bar girls, which usually aren't women of very high quality.
Here is a link to the statistics:
http://www.pewtrusts.org/ideas/idea...=10&page=8&name=Grantee Reports?source=google
The current population of the US is:
294,870,591 people.
So, roughly 196,580,394 Americans are connected to the internet.
So, about 51,110,902 Americans use online dating sites...about 26%. Around 25.5 million of them are women.
There are 25.5 million women in this country using online dating sites right now. That number continues to grow. I think it's kind of foolish to NOT check out what's available from online dating sites. Anyone who doesn't is limiting themselves to the bar girls, which usually aren't women of very high quality.
Alright heres the deal.
I won't instantly close threads about Online Dating as long as it involves the In Real Life situations.
If it deals with stuff like "Help me talk to her online" I'm gonna inform them to talk to them in real life, then close the thread.
Fair enough?
Ps: I don't want those 26% of people to come from here, this site is about being a man, getting off the computer, and meeting people, not being some Internet "loser".
I won't instantly close threads about Online Dating as long as it involves the In Real Life situations.
If it deals with stuff like "Help me talk to her online" I'm gonna inform them to talk to them in real life, then close the thread.
Fair enough?
Ps: I don't want those 26% of people to come from here, this site is about being a man, getting off the computer, and meeting people, not being some Internet "loser".
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I guess people don't pay attention when they register...
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That sounds more fair.
PS. Most people who use Online Dating services are simply using them to make initial contact with new people so that they can meet them in person. Those who seek out only to talk to a woman without actually meeting her in person has far bigger problems than the deletion of any amount of threads is going to resolve.
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Alright heres the deal.
I won't instantly close threads about Online Dating as long as it involves the In Real Life situations.
If it deals with stuff like "Help me talk to her online" I'm gonna inform them to talk to them in real life, then close the thread.
Fair enough?
Ps: I don't want those 26% of people to come from here, this site is about being a man, getting off the computer, and meeting people, not being some Internet "loser".
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Its somewhat fair but then again its a gray area because in order to meet a someone in real life, you on occasion need to create some rapport depending on the indvidule and the specifics of website.
Ultimatly you do have to meet the person, so the real life always comes into it.
You claim you are young guy but you sound just like an old man who is afraid of new technology and toss it aside as nonsense because "thats not how they did it in the good ol'e days"
WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY WHERE YOU CAN EXPEND YOUR DATING HORIZENS AND OPTIONS.
How can you call people who use dating website as internet "LOSERS" since you are moderating and arguing on website yourself?? Maybe you are better then most people in picking up women outside, but don't forget there are still people out there that are not as advance as you and they either want or feel more comfertable and take "baby steps" to reach that platinum status of DON JUAN or whatever it means anymore.
You obviously enjoy the power of being a moderator in this website and other moderators do have different opinions on it as well, so shouldn't you at least discuss that with your collegues?
If you don't like seeing advice on online dating then I guess the sort of agreement we can come to is to avoid the threads that you moderate on and post it in others. This way it shouldn't bother you right?
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Alright heres the deal.
I won't instantly close threads about Online Dating as long as it involves the In Real Life situations.
If it deals with stuff like "Help me talk to her online" I'm gonna inform them to talk to them in real life, then close the thread.
Fair enough?
Ps: I don't want those 26% of people to come from here, this site is about being a man, getting off the computer, and meeting people, not being some Internet "loser".
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Its somewhat fair but then again its a gray area because in order to meet a someone in real life, you on occasion need to create some rapport depending on the indvidule and the specifics of website.
Ultimatly you do have to meet the person, so the real life always comes into it.
You claim you are young guy but you sound just like an old man who is afraid of new technology and toss it aside as nonsense because "thats not how they did it in the good ol'e days"
WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY WHERE YOU CAN EXPEND YOUR DATING HORIZENS AND OPTIONS.
How can you call people who use dating website as internet "LOSERS" since you are moderating and arguing on website yourself?? Maybe you are better then most people in picking up women outside, but don't forget there are still people out there that are not as advance as you and they either want or feel more comfertable and take "baby steps" to reach that platinum status of DON JUAN or whatever it means anymore.
You obviously enjoy the power of being a moderator in this website and other moderators do have different opinions on it as well, so shouldn't you at least discuss that with your collegues?
If you don't like seeing advice on online dating then I guess the sort of agreement we can come to is to avoid the threads that you moderate on and post it in others. This way it shouldn't bother you right?
Re: I guess people don't pay attention when they register...
Eternal, you're missing the point. Allen doesn't want the moderation of this forum to be so careless as to drive people away. Granted, there are going to be a few pathetic posters who annoy everyone who post about flirting with women online. However, in your annoyance with THOSE posters, please take care not to offend those people who utilize online dating in a productive way...and don't censor those posters. It's just NOT cool.
I'm a moderator because I believe in the vision of this site.
I'm not arguing anything, I'm stating my opinion and you're trying to convince me otherwise.
Just assume that if the "Online dating" thread makes no comment about meeting in person, I will close it as said, but If I think its somewhat beneficial I'll keep it open...
I can't exactly avoid the posts, because I have to make sure things aren't going wrong in the thread... I wish it were that simple.
I'm no better than anyone else, I just worked my ass off to get where I am. Baby steps are pointless IMO.
At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I'm only gonna say one more thing and then leave this thread...
Vincent is a moderator. He was chosen to do a job whether you like it or not. The original poster said he didn't create this thread to start a war. However, other posters have turned this into a "Let's Hate Vincent" night.
Moderators put up with a ton of crap. We get PM'ed every day about stuff, be it "this person is flaming" to "hey, you *sshole!" We get yelled at to close something, then yelled at because something was closed. If you don't like it, remember this: Shut up, post decent stuff, it won't be closed, and if you do good enough, apply when a new mod is needed and you might be lucky enough to get picked.
If you have enough time to whine about a mod (on an internet forum nonetheless) doing something, then you need to have a life. So what if he closed a thread? His choice.
Honestly Wyld, name 1 person that left the site because of 1 moderator closing 1 thread. I would love to hear who it was. A lot of people leave here because they get bored with the site because people post the same crap over and over. Moderators are supposed to keep the place clean and free of crap. If there are already a lot of threads about something that just got posted, it's considered crap and needs to be taken care of. That is a reason your picture thread was closed. Not because we hate you, but that there is a post where people show thier pictures.
Finally...
"Alls well that ends ok, so I'll end this with a 'grow up' and 'have a nice day."'
Vincent is a moderator. He was chosen to do a job whether you like it or not. The original poster said he didn't create this thread to start a war. However, other posters have turned this into a "Let's Hate Vincent" night.
Moderators put up with a ton of crap. We get PM'ed every day about stuff, be it "this person is flaming" to "hey, you *sshole!" We get yelled at to close something, then yelled at because something was closed. If you don't like it, remember this: Shut up, post decent stuff, it won't be closed, and if you do good enough, apply when a new mod is needed and you might be lucky enough to get picked.
If you have enough time to whine about a mod (on an internet forum nonetheless) doing something, then you need to have a life. So what if he closed a thread? His choice.
Honestly Wyld, name 1 person that left the site because of 1 moderator closing 1 thread. I would love to hear who it was. A lot of people leave here because they get bored with the site because people post the same crap over and over. Moderators are supposed to keep the place clean and free of crap. If there are already a lot of threads about something that just got posted, it's considered crap and needs to be taken care of. That is a reason your picture thread was closed. Not because we hate you, but that there is a post where people show thier pictures.
Finally...
"Alls well that ends ok, so I'll end this with a 'grow up' and 'have a nice day."'
Actually Eternal, since you asked...when I saw that you immediately closed the DJ Photo Challenge Part Deux thread that I started because there was a similar thread a year and a freaking half ago makes me want to remove my DJ Bible posts and all other posts. I DESPISE censorship with a passion. Especially totally unwarranted and ridiculous censorship.
diablo
Master Don Juan
The most recent was posted in 10 days ago, and again today. It's a 6 page long thread with nothing but links to people on this site's pictures (as I stated in your thread discussing this topic in depth). For verification, the link is contained here.
I haven't called anyone a loser - and in reference to me being one simply by the fact that I've taken it upon myself to try to help keep this forum running smoothly, I'll "retaliate" by posting a series of pictures in the very near future that will have you drooling onto your keyboard...
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Lol, I was just thinking that I had never read a post asking "What should I say next" but then I just remembered giving someone some flack last week because they asked that exact same question after getting a response to a profile he 'borrowed' from someone else...
OK, I'll admit that there's a chance that there are guys on this board that will not know what to do what so ever if a woman on-line even hints any interest toward him. But then again, isn't that why DJs here try to share that knowledge with them?
diablo
Master Don Juan
As I posted elsewhere, I've got no problem with sexing a girl who I've met over the internet, but I don't think that it should be done by someone who can't first consistently attract and seduce a woman off of the computer. If used properly, the internet can be a powerful tool in your hands - but it's easy to become too reliant on it and substitute actual physical approaches with IM's to girls instead. While I won't close a thread simply because it deals with online dating, I don't believe that they are a benefit to our site.
MRomeo99
Don Juan
So do I, that's why I'm here.
How bout just ignore it? Wouldn't that seem to make more sense? Because otherwise, you won't be closing any threads. It's the same as saying, I will only close threads that mention getting laid. If there is no sex involved, then the thread is pointless. So, now unless every question asked directly involves sex, it will be closed. When ultimately every question automatically can be condensed to sex.
Much like every single possible thread dealing with online dating will deal with meeting in person. Regardless of whether you mention it or not. If you're looking for help on your internet profile, it's obviously not because you want to be the coolest guy on your block with your profile. It's because you ultimately want to meet women in real life. I have yet to see a post/question that didn't deal with real women.
Now, if someone asks a question like how do I go in chatrooms and find girls to have cybersex with. Granted, delete away. But, any questions that are legitimately about online dating, should be fine within your rules as far as I understand them. Is that the way I understand it.
Or are you saying that any online dating question that doesn't specifically ask how do I actually transition the girl from online to real life will be closed? Because that's such a small portion of the process, even if the most important process. It would be like IRL DJing, saying only the lay can be discussed. No info on how to get the digits, make the approach, first date techniques, kiss techniques, kino, etc.
Can you see my point?
I think laying out a rationale about what is acceptable and what isn't makes sense. However it's very difficult to have someone who is so obviously prejudiced making the arbitration. It would be like asking a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan to moderate the NAACP board. Perhaps you have to ask yourself if it makes sense for you to be the moderator of this particular topic. I'd hate to have all the online dating topics moved over to the Mature Man, just because you feel them unfitting for a forum you happen to moderate.
Just my thoughts.
Romeo
MRomeo99
Don Juan
But Diablo, let me ask you. If you have no skills off the computer, are you going to be able to sex the girl you met over the internet? I'm not saying it can't happen, but 9 of 10 times, you have to have game IRL to play up the girls you meet online. If you read my posts on Internet dating. I move the girls almost immediately onto the phone or in person. I don't spend a whole lot of time becoming their pen pal. If I don't get the digits within a short period of time, I'm out.
Those of you who don't put value in it, just don't understand the uses. And haven't learned enough to put it to good use. If you truly understood the power of what was possible, you wouldn't knock it. It's easy to call it a "loser" game if you have never played effectively. It truly can be one of the most time effective, cost effective ways to meet women. Read what I wrote. to meet women. Not to find pen pals, not to experiment with cyber sex. But to meet women in real life.
And ignore the market at your own risk, it is supposed to double this year. And for each person who chooses not to be involved, that's just more for the rest of us who know what we're doing.
MRomeo99
Don Juan
Another example of how "internet dating" helped me out. I met this girl named L online. Great girl, but not really my style. We had a few drinks, had a blast but no chemistry. We became friends. She started inviting me with her and her friends to all these parties. Eventually she and some friends started a social club(networking/single group). I was at the very first meetings. I ended up meeting probably 100 new people, and kept my social calender full for months because of this one contact. Dated numerous really cool chicks from the group.
Total portion of the interaction that was because of internet dating 1-2%. Other DJ skills 98%+. How many of these people I would have met otherwise, probably 0%(was a private invite only club).
Call me a loser if you wish, however this is a real life story of what happened to me about 4 years ago.
Romeo
Total portion of the interaction that was because of internet dating 1-2%. Other DJ skills 98%+. How many of these people I would have met otherwise, probably 0%(was a private invite only club).
Call me a loser if you wish, however this is a real life story of what happened to me about 4 years ago.
Romeo
Are you implying that this site is the NAACP?
The way you phrased that made it sound like "This forum is about online dating, and you hate online dating yet you still moderate it"
This forum has nothing to do about online dating, if it did, the bible would contain posts about it.
I just don't see the point in online dating, its counter productive to everything this site is about.
But I've made my concessions, and thats all you're getting from me.
