Wouldnt the DEVIL be considered a Dj ??

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Yes, the devil is a DJ. Jesus refers to him as "the prince of this world" and the father of deception. I'm sure he could have any woman he wanted. Eve was a pushover.


Job 2:4
"Skin for skin!" Satan replied. "A man will give all he has for his own life.

Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took [Jesus] to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."

Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus said to his disciples... "for whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it. "

John 8:42
Jesus said... When [the devil] lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight.
 

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Great short story to read re: Satan

It's called Unferno, by George Alec Effinger. It's about a wife-killer named Rosenthal who's sent to Hell, finds it to be quite a lot less (and more) than what he expected.

*** spoilers, if you want to read a summary of the whole thing ****


The character, Rosenthal, was accidentally sent to Hell before being given a chance to repent at the gates of Heaven.

The reason for this was that an unprecedented celebration was seen and heard in the distance, distracting all of the "intake" staff angels who are there to screen potential entrants to Paradise.

Rosenthal is sent to an empty Hell, but strangely has the ability to alter his body and summon wine, food and clothing at will.

He gradually becomes accustomed to his new environs, and used to his new empowerment, enlisting the aid of a fresh arrival to the Netherworld to help him inflict tortures on the damned.

An archangel descends from the heavens one day, and explains that the jubilation was Lucifer and his legions finally repenting. They were let back into the kingdom of Heaven just as he was descending into Hell. That's why he was alone, and that's why ultimate power defaulted to him. The archangel gives Rosenthal one additional chance to repent, but refuses - his miserable life on Earth wasn't much worse than Hell, and he can't miss Heaven, for he was never let in.

"Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven" he declares.

The archangel departs, a bit saddened that this man wouldn't save himself, leaving him in Hades for eternity.
 

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Originally posted by Centaurion
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.





The Nine Satanic Sins

by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987

1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.

3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.

4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.

9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
I've actually got that ebook and I have read it.. interesting stuff
 

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All I gotta say is watch the last 10 minutes of The Devils Advocate and you'll see how DJ the Devil can be. Al Pacino plays the devil. He says that he's a "fan of Man'. That he encourages us to live out all our desires and fantasies w/o regret. He also says God is a Sadist. God tells us to "look, but don't touch............touch, but don't taste................taste, but don't don't swallow" and he's laughing his ass off as we all follow his rediculous ideals.

If you think about it is kind of true. God says you can't get into the Kingdom of Heaven if you don't act a certain way. Satan will accept you no matter what you do in your life. Maybe it is better to reign in hell than be a servant in Heaven.
 

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Satan will accept you no matter what you do in your life
Satan has no care for any of us, doesn't matter if we worship him or not. Why do you think Hell is meant to be a place of torture instead of a big welcoming party for you from the devil.

All Satan wants is to get back at God. One way or another.
 

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Originally posted by BuckwildNYC

If you think about it is kind of true. God says you can't get into the Kingdom of Heaven if you don't act a certain way. Satan will accept you no matter what you do in your life. Maybe it is better to reign in hell than be a servant in Heaven.
Based on my studies of the Bible, I can tell you that hell will be no cakewalk. After judgment day, God will throw the heavens, the earth, and the grave (hell) into the lake of fire, which was created for satan to fry in. The unsaved will burn eternally in that lake, though we will not feel it eternally, but will be annihilated for good, because eternal life is not possible without being saved by Jesus Christ.
 

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lmfao@'studies of the Bible'

If you had studied the Bible you would have seen how fake it is, and how it contradicts itself. The Bible has been rewritten several times to fit the political agenda of the powers that be at that particular time.
 

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Originally posted by MetalFortress
Based on my studies of the Bible, I can tell you that hell will be no cakewalk. After judgment day, God will throw the heavens, the earth, and the grave (hell) into the lake of fire, which was created for satan to fry in. The unsaved will burn eternally in that lake, though we will not feel it eternally, but will be annihilated for good, because eternal life is not possible without being saved by Jesus Christ.

Yeah that's cause the Bible was written by God's minions. Would you trust a book on dating written by women............. I think not.

O and here's the wikipedia's definition of minion.....

minion: A minion is a lowly human following a master. He is in a state of servitude and his will is only that of the master's diction. Often subhuman in form, minions are rarely found outside exaggeration or fiction. The word minion is often used as an exaggeration casually, such as when one person does what another says constantly

I love this topic so much. I have a question for all you religious people out there. The bible always talks about the "afterlife". The universe has been around for 7 billion years. Where the hell were we all that time. I don't know about you but I don't remember much before my seventh birthday. Where in the precious Bible does it explain that one?
 
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The universe has been around for 7 billion years.

How do you know? Are you just accepting what you are told, like some kind of "minion."

You can't believe in Satan without believing in the Bible.

Also, the "little" part is a little creepy:
9. Do not harm little children.

How little is "little?" At what size is it ok to harm children?

Satan is also known as "Baal" and by many other names. What all ancient Baal-worshipers had in common was a fondness for child sacrifices.
 

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WhatEVER! You guys are totally ripping on this thread!!!

The momentum in the start was exciting. Great thoughts, it was actually GOING somewhere.

Now look what you've gone and fvcked up! talking about the bible and minions and who bows to whom. Your all treating this like your a bunch of girls trying to decide who you should go out with.

Man up!

Grab your balls and treat this like we're dissecting somebody's game. Not trying to decide which game is better, or what happened in the past.

Thank you VERY much MetalFortress and mista deadly assassin. You guys woke up Bible_belt's fury. How did I know it was going to turn into a war on religion...

Stop bringing up the past guys. We are here for the future.
 

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Humans developed religion to calm the masses and bring order society so it could develop......


That was way back when as Chris Rock said " A pork chop might kill your a**"

Nowadays most of what you find in organized religion is pointless as science has either proven or disproven most of the phenomenon people had no clue about.


The universe has been around for 7 billion years. How do you know?
Are you just accepting what you are told, like some kind of "minion."

You can't believe in Satan without believing in the Bible.
I can believe what science has proven...read this by a UCLA professor Age of the Universe


The entire religious system is based on "belief" not fact. Therfore anyone who "believes" in the Judeo-Christian beliefs is essentially a minion to what ever GOD they serve.
 

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Satan or The Devil barely featuresin The Bible, it's a serpent that tempts Eve and in Job Satan seems to be working for God. The idea of Hell as a place for sinners ruled over by Satan is not described in The Bible, and was invented as a marketing device by Christianity when trying to reach new markets in the middle ages.

All that stuff about Satan being an angel cast out of heaven is from Milton's Paradise Lost. Read The Devil - A Biography by Peter Stanford, a great book about the history of the Devil in popular belief/superstition.

Apart from his recorded exploits intent, I think the Devil usually represents choice, or 'temptation' as it's perjoritively termed by our moral guardians. God wants blind obedience and Satan is invoked when a sheep considers not obeying the shepherd (or to stretch the metaphor, his sheep-dogs The Church).

This applies to women in that they find rebellion, rule-breaking and defiance attractive. The devil represents sin and debauchery, just as Pan or Bacchus did back in Greek and Roman times. Trigger this connection in a woman and she will want you.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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No, and Yes....

I'll say no DJ's think things out and do moves that will benefit them for the long run, not getting kicked out of Heaven for a few millenia. And I b/c I wouldn't want to be in the same category as that prick.

I'd say yes b/c if he was trying to get chicks seduced, he could get ANY freakin' chick he wanted.

First the bible described HIM, (not androgynous). As the most beautiful magnificent creature ever created.

Second, his arrogance would serve as great ****iness to getting the chicks.

Thirdly, he was able to draw one third of the angels from heaven, if that isn't persuasion, I don't know what is...
 

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and one more thing...

Am I insulting you guys' theory of descending from a sh!t flinging monkey? Or that social order and moral principles is for "minions"? No, so can y'all stop all the hatin'?
 

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Originally posted by Centaurion
lmfao@'studies of the Bible'

If you had studied the Bible you would have seen how fake it is, and how it contradicts itself. The Bible has been rewritten several times to fit the political agenda of the powers that be at that particular time.

The Bible is not to be taken ad litteram and Catholic Church has recognized that the facts contained in it have been written by human beings, who can mistake themselves.

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I'm happy about this thread being so successful and I'd like to add my thoughts about the debate "Is the Devil a DJ?". I will write as thoughts come to my mind, so if you don't understand something, just ask and I'll be glad to answer you guys.

What's the first and foremost feature of a DJ? He's not needy.
Some guys here have said that the Devil is a DJ because he's not needy. Well, actually he IS. Why? Because he needs people to go by his side. I'll make an example which can sound funny, but take it seriously:


Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took [Jesus] to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."


Think just for a moment about Jesus. In a typical picking up situation, whom does he represent? Think about it.
Yes, Jesus is the stuck-up lady who doesn't even consider you.


Now, think about an AFC who's bound to give away all his goods in order to spend a single night with an HB9. Who he represented by? Yes, he's represented by the Devil! Satan will cover Jesus in gifts just to receive a bow by him!

The Devil thinks less of himself than Jesus and he will do everything to have him by his side.


You can argue with my reasoning, saying that the Devil takes care of himself and hooks up everyday with millions of people on the Earth, who will even kill themselves and others, in order to have his approval. You could say <<I wouldn't consider myself an Average Frustrated Chump, if there were tons of people killing themselves to spend the eternity with me>>. Right! Because the Devil is the other side of the AFC. The other side? Yes, the Jerk!



Now, if the Devil is the major Jerk, God has to be the major Don Juan, right? Yes and we can easily understand this when he says that humans are allowed to choose his side or the Devil's side. He's happy when we stand by his side, but he really doesn't need us.


Adone
 

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Santa - Peacocking Player or AFC?

The Tooth Fairy - What an AW!

The Boogie Man - So Pimp He's Scary!
 

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Ahh.. Lucifer, Angel of the Morning. Satan, Prince of Darkness.

Otherwise known as a scapegoat, a figure demonized by the early church to explain the violence and all the bad things in the world.

Its really very convenient. At one point, there was no devil in the eyes of the christians. But then as they started thinking how messed up this world is and how if the christian god exists, he would be the one responsible for all that. God of kindness? not so much. So the devil was manufactured to explain all the bad and horrible things. Now it would be easy to say: "God is good, kind, great.. Whenever you see evil, its not God, its that bastard devil and those who he seduces"


I say one man's god is another man's devil. The greatest evils in history were done by the men claiming the "will of the god"
 

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