Woman's Point of View

[Lexie]

Lol okay everybody:
Whenever we make a facebook/myspace profile or whatever, dont forget to write "I have a sexy personality" haha!

Haha, yes! This made me laugh.

 

[kickureface]

:yes:

In my house it is both seats down so the dog doesn't drink out of it.

If you have ever been 8 months pregnant and gone into the bathroom in the middle of the night and fallen into the toilet because the seat is not down, gotten stuck with baby wedged between you, cold water and cold porcelain and had to hollar to wake your man to help you get unstuck - well.. now you know why...

LOLOLOLOLOL
i loveyou!

 

[Rudra]

To which she said "oh no, I'm not having guests and family use our bathroom when it has a urinal in it!" And I said "right, because then you'd have to explain why it was there."

Why is that?? You lost me here... Urinals are great if you´re not going to sit down to take a p1ss (not in a million years, mom . Well buy a pink one or with some flowers or bambies on it))

 

[KontrollerX]

Lexie why do you think some women put up a front of meaness?

What is that bullsh!t all about?

Thanks.

 

[Lexie]

Lexie why do you think some women put up a front of meaness?

What is that bullsh!t all about?

Thanks.

If it's all the time, I'd have to say they just don't like you. If this is a one time thing, she could just be in a bad mood or not want to be hit on.

Some girls come off as mean, when really that's just their sense of humor or a defense mechanism because they've been burned by guys one too many times.

Other possibilities: Her boyfriend's close by and she doesn't want him to think she's flirting, or she's with her girlfriends and wants to look cool.

I might be able to help you out more if you had a more specific interaction you could tell me about.

 

[KontrollerX]

Interesting.

I asked another chick this same question and she pretty much went with the "they've been burned by guys one too many times" answer and told me that chicks like this are really some of the nicest girls ever underneath that fake persona.

I think you explained a bit more possibility wise so thanks.

 

[Lexie]

Hey no problem. Also, it can be a...well, I hate to use the word test...but sort of a barrier to see if you're interested enough to really get to know her. I agree with your friend, some off-putting girls can be super nice once they realize you're sincere.

 

[Nighthawk]

Dude, for someone that has over 1000 posts I'm surprised that you couldn't see the intention/purpose of the original post... There's a reason he asked for only female response...

I don't mean to beat this to death, but Lexie has now answered DevanE's question, and it helped how exactly? She told him the obvious, that the girl isn't interested, but did not point out what he did that so clearly lowered her interest.

And now we have a bunch of other posters leaping on this real-life woman to ask her vague questions that she is answering to the best of her ability, but with no real insight and occasionally misleading advice (If a girl is acting mean she is almost definitely saying she's not available, giving men hope that if they plough on to show that they are genuinely interested is going to be mostly counter-productive. It could be a ****-test, but Lexie hasn't given any helpful advice as to how to 'pass' this test.

This site rightly says that most women don't understand what they want and will usually fall back on what they think they would like from a man rather than understanding or admitting what they really fell for. If someone was to base their actions around this woman's point of view they might come away thinking sending chocolate might be a good idea, that being respectful and courteous is key to attraction (whereas it's icing on the cake at best).

Her advice hasn't been horrible, but there's a reason this site advises not to listen to most women's advice on relationships.

Lexie, I don't mean to give you a hard time, your opinion is welcome here. It's just less informed than you and some other posters might think.

 

[Lexie]

I don't mean to beat this to death, but Lexie has now answered DevanE's question, and it helped how exactly? She told him the obvious, that the girl isn't interested, but did not point out what he did that so clearly lowered her interest.

And now we have a bunch of other posters leaping on this real-life woman to ask her vague questions that she is answering to the best of her ability, but with no real insight and occasionally misleading advice (If a girl is acting mean she is almost definitely saying she's not available, giving men hope that if they plough on to show that they are genuinely interested is going to be mostly counter-productive. It could be a ****-test, but Lexie hasn't given any helpful advice as to how to 'pass' this test.

This site rightly says that most women don't understand what they want and will usually fall back on what they think they would like from a man rather than understanding or admitting what they really fell for. If someone was to base their actions around this woman's point of view they might come away thinking sending chocolate might be a good idea, that being respectful and courteous is key to attraction (whereas it's icing on the cake at best).

Her advice hasn't been horrible, but there's a reason this site advises not to listen to most women's advice on relationships.

Lexie, I don't mean to give you a hard time, your opinion is welcome here. It's just less informed than you and some other posters might think.

As a woman, I'd like to think that my opinion on what women think is 10 fold more informed than all the men on this site. Women act mean for a lot of reasons and, depending on where you meet them, it is not ALWAYS because they're not interested, this is why I asked for specifics on his situation. If you're in a bar, ok sure, the meaness is to get you to back off. I was not telling him to "plow on", rather giving him reasons as to why he shouldn't always take it personally.

It's impossible to give very specific advice without knowing everyone's exact situation: the more specifics you give me, the more I can give you. If you re-read DevanE's post, you'll see why I absolutely cannot tell him why this girl is not interested in him: I know nothing about their conversation, I don't know what's going on in her life, how long it's been between each of their calls, her and his tone of voice/body language/etc, I could go on. Basically, short of a video, it's hard to say why she wasn't into it. The fact is, women are so varied and complicated that one answer will not cover all situations. I simply offered my analysis of the information I was presented with, without jumping to conclusions based on info that was left out. Obviously he asked for my opinion because he knew all the guys on here would answer in the same way that you did. Which frankly, was a vast over-generalization.

And no, I wasn't saying chocolate fixes everything! It could very well be a case of "too much too soon". And I agree "that being respectful and courteous" is NOT the key to attraction, however, being disrespectful and rude will get you nowhere.

As for passing the aforementioned "test", I tried to refrain from calling it this because I knew it would seen like "something to pass" for a lot of guys. I do believe the word barrier is more accurate. As to how to get past it, consideration seems the most obvious answer to me. Basically, give her space and don't be a jerk.

I do feel that I am offering some amount of insight, or a least a different point of view. If you feel differently, then by all means keep your conversations limited to the rest of the men on this site. I don't think I've been pushing any unwanted advice on you or others.

To sum it up, this one quote reveals exactly how little you know about women: "In short - you didn't touch her sexually? Why not? Women want sex."

 

[KontrollerX]

"Lexie, I don't mean to give you a hard time, your opinion is welcome here. It's just less informed than you and some other posters might think."

I really don't think so reading over her posts here.

Like Penkitten and Watertiger she's one of the good ones trying to help here as best she can.

Like she said she needs more specifics on certain situational questions to give a more full answer.

I framed my question to her to get what I needed out of it and to take a consensus viewpoint not just from her but another chick I talked to and a few guys.

Lexie the other chick and my guy friends all gave similar answers so it was a good consensus answer that has been to my satisfaction.

 

[ABC]

<<To sum it up, this one quote reveals exactly how little you know about women: "In short - you didn't touch her sexually? Why not? Women want sex.">>

WHat do you mean by this, Lexie? Can you please elaborate?

 

[Lexie]

<<To sum it up, this one quote reveals exactly how little you know about women: "In short - you didn't touch her sexually? Why not? Women want sex.">>

WHat do you mean by this, Lexie? Can you please elaborate?

Yes women want sex, I'm not denying that. Some women want sex more than some men. But to approach a woman with the assumption that she wants to have sex with you, and to touch her sexually based on this assumption, shows no respect for that woman and a very low understanding of women in general.

If you go up to ten random women and ask them to have sex with you, you might get one that says yes. Conversely, you'd probably get a higher number if you had a woman ask ten random men. Why? Most of the time (there are exceptions) women don't want "just sex", meaning they want more than just the physical pleasure. They want the emotions that come along with it. Why do you think romantic novels and chick flicks sell so well? It's porn for women - emotional porn. They love it when the girl gets swept off her feet by the dashing suave millionaire who also happens to be a really great guy. Like I've stated in a previous post, they want to feel like they are one-in-a-million, and that you're not hitting on them just because they're the best looking chick in a bar.

Are there women who just want sex? Yes. Should you treat all women like they just want sex? No. Most of the time, you'll be wrong.

I hope that helps explain what I meant a little better, if not let me know and I'll try again!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Are there women who just want sex? Yes. Should you treat all women like they just want sex? No. Most of the time, you'll be wrong...

Sex is the same mean to different ends for men and women.

 

[Dongfu]

If you go up to ten random women and ask them to have sex with you, you might get one that says yes.

I doubt it. Maybe if you asked 1000 women. If this worked, then alot of what we talk about here would be obsolete.

I would love for a random hot girl to be that straight foreward with me. If a girl came up to me and whispered, "I want you to come fvck me right now" I would drop whatever I was doing, no questions asked. My cousin, who is a super hottie did this once to a guy. Lucky mofo.

Like I've stated in a previous post, they want to feel like they are one-in-a-million, and that you're not hitting on them just because they're the best looking chick in a bar.

Is it better to give women this illusion. Of course everyone is one in a million, but if a given woman doesnt have something extraordinary about her (looks, or some kind of talent, or an incredible personality) then she's not really "one in a million," "she is one of a million."

The other thing that I've noticed is that even though most women say they want you to treat them as if they are special, eventually they will not respect you for this, and even begin to resent you. Bottom line is men have to be a little hard on women, so the woman feels that she needs to be constantly striving for his attention, approval. A woman should have at least a tinge of anxiety when she is in going to see her guy. When she becomes completely content and feeling really safe and secure about the relationship, then she is done with it.

There are of course very exquisite women who are beyond this dynamic, and truly deserve to be treated like one in million. But I doubt your going t meet her in a bar.

 

[Nighthawk]

Ok Lexie, I'll be more careful with my words. I should have asked DevanE -

"Why didn't you escalate sexually with this woman? She had expressed an interest in your 'hot bod.' Why did you assume that hiding your sexuality from this woman was going to make her more attracted to you?"

Better? I think it was obvious what I meant the first time though.

 

[smooth guy]

Lexi what's your take on direct game and what would more likely be your reaction if a guy approached you out of nowhere with something along the lines 'hey you seem interesting and I just had to get to know you.'

Let's say his looks were average but he seemed confident enough.

Or do you think some small talk before exchanging numbers would be a better approach?

 

[Ripper]

Lucky mofo.

Don't you mean 'Lucky cofo'?!

 

[Lexie]

Lexi what's your take on direct game and what would more likely be your reaction if a guy approached you out of nowhere with something along the lines 'hey you seem interesting and I just had to get to know you.'

Let's say his looks were average but he seemed confident enough.

Or do you think some small talk before exchanging numbers would be a better approach?

I prefer honesty, so that might actually work for me. It's really important that he not come across as creepy or desperate, both of which are deal-breakers. And a sincere smile is a must. The thing about having a random guy come up to you is, girls are always looking out for themselves and trying to stay safe, so they have to quickly assess the guy, and if anything about him registers as "unsafe" on the meter then it's no-go. My reaction would probably be something along the lines of flattery, but it's really completely about the vibe I get from the guy.

Small talk can be helpful, but as for before or after the "line" if you will is best, I don't know that it matters much.

You also have to watch out for the situation you're in when you do an approach like this. ie, a parking garage is not the way to go.

 

[Nexus Polaris]

Can I play too?

Insecure men can suck the life force out of a woman.

I can totally see this. It makes a lot of sense.

I don't really buy the part about women looking nice just for themselves, though. On some level, they want somebody to notice. Otherwise they would dress up just to sit around the house.

 

[DonJuan11]

Yes women want sex, I'm not denying that. Some women want sex more than some men.

There is no way the good looking women want more sex than men. The non good looking ones sometimes do.

But to approach a woman with the assumption that she wants to have sex with you, and to touch her sexually based on this assumption, shows no respect for that woman and a very low understanding of women in general.

I agree, but its not worth it for a guy to wait 9 months, spend alot of money and time, treat her nicely, do whatever she wants so he can get sex on the 10th month and only when she is in the mood.

If you go up to ten random women and ask them to have sex with you, you might get one that says yes.

No way, it would be more like 1 in 1000 as mentioned. Most of the guys on here do not look like or are built like firefighters or policeman. We are average joes when it comes to sex.

Plus, the women the guys on here are looking for have to be at least 7/10. Anyone can pull a 5/10, fat or old women on here to have sex with

Conversely, you'd probably get a higher number if you had a woman ask ten random men. Why? Most of the time (there are exceptions) women don't want "just sex", meaning they want more than just the physical pleasure. They want the emotions that come along with it.

OK.

Why do you think romantic novels and chick flicks sell so well? It's porn for women - emotional porn. They love it when the girl gets swept off her feet by the dashing suave millionaire who also happens to be a really great guy.

You have a point expect for the "millionare" part. Money does not matter unless the girl is over 25 and I assume you are over 25.

Like I've stated in a previous post, they want to feel like they are one-in-a-million, and that you're not hitting on them just because they're the best looking chick in a bar.

That's pretty much the only reason we do. Guys are visual, we don't get turned on by personality, we only want a hot, young girl by our side. No one on this site has ever said "closed with a 5/10" or "closed with a fat chick - thanks guys for all your help"

We are only on this site because we want to talk to the hot, young girls. That's why we get nervous with the hot ones and have no problem talking with the fat, ugly ones. Again, I'm not Brad by any means.


Are there women who just want sex? Yes. Should you treat all women like they just want sex? No. Most of the time, you'll be wrong.

The hot ones don't want sex. The non-hot ones do.

Thanks!