Woman who have been raped

[Latinoman]

Unfortunately, not enough emphasis is placed upon a man falsely accused. Even if he is acquitted, there is always a taint on his reputation. Even if the woman plain outright lies they would rarely take any action against her for perjury or anything else.

I agree with this 100%. It is very sad actually. Only worst thing is the innocent man that is accused of pedophilia or child molestation.

And IMO something MUST be done with people that outright lie.

I strongly believe that the Washington slut lied about Mike Tyson raping her. And I believe she did that in order to later sue him for lot of $$$.

But I do believe that Koby forced himself to that woman. And I think he was lucky he was not put in jail.

I beleive OJ Simpson killed his wife and got away with murder. But I also believe that the possibility of innocence is very high with the Baretta dude in relation to the death of his wife.

At the end comes down to making a judgment call. If she is drunk (and please spare me the "1 drink" stuff as we all know what DRUNK truly means)...and you had sex with her and she lacked the faculties to have sex...then that's rape.

Now...a glass of wine here and there to loose somebody up is NOT a crime. Getting somebody wasted and then phucking her is a crime. The same way that taking the wallet from your drunk buddy is a crime.

 

[wayword]

So using your logic small children and animals are in your repertoire?

Small children haven't passed puberty yet...which is Nature's sign of the minimum age that they are ready to have sex.

As far as animals...humans are animals...

As far as a really drunk girl "losing her faculties," I see really drunk girls losing their inhibitions, but not faculties. Alcohol is not going to make you get up on a table and take your clothes off...it's only going to relieve your inhibitions about doing so.

Anyhow, no matter how you argue it...people CHOOSE how much they drink...and how drunk they get as they go along. Therefore, they are still acountable for lowered inhibitions or "lost faculties" either way - as it was a conscious choice.

If you start claiming that drunk fvcking = rape...wow, talk about one slippery slope legal precedent! All a girl has to do is show she had at least 1 drink before you phucked her and you're essentially guilty - as she can then claim she had "too much" and there's no way you can prove she didn't. Remember, most rape cases still boil down to "he said, she said," and women get believed off the bat whether they are lying or not. Go read up on the Duke lacrosse rape case where the accuser is a Black stripper who has a history of crying wolf...

We need to send the OPPOSITE message here: if you want to keep your inhibitions/faculties around sex, then don't drink. Be smart, be accountable, be a lady. Quit passing the buck...the buck stops with YOU. This is really no different than drunk driving laws. Don't blame the booze, blame the person who chose to drink it.

 

[Ice Cold]

Latinoman - you're so ardent about this drunken issue. Did you get homo hopped while you passed out?

Just kidding.

How about for the sake of discussion I throw in a statement:

Only hoes drink to the point of losing control of their faculties... especially in a company of men they don't know well enough.

 

[Latinoman]

Latinoman - you're so ardent about this drunken issue. Did you get homo hopped while you passed out?

Just kidding.

How about for the sake of discussion I throw in a statement:

Only hoes drink to the point of losing control of their faculties... especially in a company of men they don't know well enough.

Never being rape nor abused. And if you think Russian men are Alpha...I can assure you that Latino men are more so. And unlike the vast majority of men in my position (great career, etc.)...I do come from the streets (barrios).

I'm ardent about the topic, because I cannot comprehend why men even try to throw the blame on woman...when Rape is a Power thing.

If a woman had sex WITHOUT her consent (drunk or not)...she is then rape and the man should be punished.

That's plain and simple.

DJs should not even be discussing the issue of sleeping with DRUNK women. We have choices.

 

[Adone]

Never being rape nor abused. And if you think Russian men are Alpha...I can assure you that Latino men are more so. And unlike the vast majority of men in my position (great career, etc.)...I do come from the streets (barrios).

I'm ardent about the topic, because I cannot comprehend why men even try to throw the blame on woman...when Rape is a Power thing.

If a woman had sex WITHOUT her consent (drunk or not)...she is then rape and the man should be punished.

That's plain and simple.

DJs should not even be discussing the issue of sleeping with DRUNK women. We have choices.

What if you are more drunk than her and don't even understand that SHE is drunk? This law makes you go into jail in such a case. Why do you have to be responsible for getting drunk, while she doesn't have to worry about that, because law protects her?

 

[Ice Cold]

Never being rape nor abused. And if you think Russian men are Alpha...I can assure you that Latino men are more so.

Oh, now you've done it. lol

How about you represent all latino men and I represent all russians and we battle it out man-o-man? Huh? huh?

Last man standing wins. Just don't kick in the groin. :nono:

 

[Ice Cold]

I meant to say "you be representin"

 

[Latinoman]

What if you are more drunk than her and don't even understand that SHE is drunk? This law makes you go into jail in such a case. Why do you have to be responsible for getting drunk, while she doesn't have to worry about that, because law protects her?

I'm no Lawyer and I'm not Judge...

But if you happen to become more drunk and she tells you “no” or if she is not consenting…and you still force yourself into her…well…

...let's say that being drunk is not going to be an excuse to exonerate you from committing a crime.

 

[Adone]

But if you happen to become more drunk and she tells you “no” or if she is not consenting…and you still force yourself into her…well…

C'mon man, that's pretty obvious: we're talking about CONSENSUAL sex. Since you happen to agree with the law, I asked you "What if you both are drunk and consensual, but you are more drunk than her? Is she raping you?". If you answer not, then you are being a sexist and law can't defend sexism. Now, that's a law paradox.

 

[Ice Cold]

I'm with Adone.

 

[PRMoon]

No one said the law doesn't hold double standards in it's system. There are many such double standards between men and women in the american judicial system and really we all just have to deal with it.

Rape is a tough and ugly issue. Women can cry rape even if it's not true and ruin a guys life yet men can not and often will not do the same out of their status as a man. I don't think anybody should be raped or murdered in society but I do know many people who put themselves in these type of situations thinking it CAN'T happen to them. I find that train of thought very disturbing because we all should realize that the world can be a very bad place housing very bad people. There are alot of scumbags who would just as soon slit your throat as shake your hand. I've had the pleasure of looking people like this in eye and walk away untouched...except for my soul.

The point is while no one deserves to be raped or killed, there are certainly people who put themsleves in that position needless and repeatedly and expect nothing bad to happen ever. That's like playing roulette with your life or drinking and driving. You'll get lucky and be okay for a while but eventually it's going to catch up with you and the end results could mean your life.

 

[azanon]

Can we get back to the OP's question and if you guys want to debate what does or does not constitute rape, maybe make a new thread?

The OP asked:
"Question for all the guys out there? Any of u guys been in a relationship with a girl that was raped in her past. My x-girlfriend was raped in her past, and the sex was good at first, but then she never wanted to have sex."


I'm curious if we have any more examples.

 

[penkitten]

never wanted to have sex with whom? the guy that raped her or with you or with either?

 

[Ice Cold]

never wanted to have sex with whom? the guy that raped her or with you or with either?

With anybody. lol :crazy:

Must be a dyke.

 

[Centaurion]

In rape cases it is almost always 'guilty until proven innocent', instead of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

A friend of mine got accused of rape by a psycho chick once. You know what was funny? He was with me at a party in ANOTHER town during the 'rape'. We went away on Friday and came back on Tuesday, while the girl said that the 'rape' took place on Saturday. We had credit card recites, numerous witnesses and we could document the entire stay, but did that stop the cops from treating my friend as a hardcore criminal? Hell no. He got arrested, interrogated for hours and had to spend a night in jail. After a couple of days the girl admitted she had made the entire thing up because she 'wanted his attention'. My friend got released, but the stigma of getting arrested on rape accusation stuck. He was lucky that he was in Australia only for a semester. What happened to the girl who put my friend through all this? All she ever got was a 'uuuh never do this again' from the cops. Nothing more.

I’ve several times seen b!tches getting totally wasted and fooling around (kissing, giving head and having sex) with several guys at parties. And as far as I could see no one was forcing them to do these things. But once they wake up the next morning they cry out that they forced me to do this because they (the b!tches) don’t want to be portrayed as cvm guzzling sluts.


Sh!t like this really pisses me off.

 

[Latinoman]

In rape cases it is almost always 'guilty until proven innocent', instead of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

A friend of mine got accused of rape by a psycho chick once. You know what was funny? He was with me at a party in ANOTHER town during the 'rape'. We went away on Friday and came back on Tuesday, while the girl said that the 'rape' took place on Saturday. We had credit card recites, numerous witnesses and we could document the entire stay, but did that stop the cops from treating my friend as a hardcore criminal? Hell no. He got arrested, interrogated for hours and had to spend a night in jail. After a couple of days the girl admitted she had made the entire thing up because she 'wanted his attention'. My friend got released, but the stigma of getting arrested on rape accusation stuck. He was lucky that he was in Australia only for a semester. What happened to the girl who put my friend through all this? All she ever got was a 'uuuh never do this again' from the cops. Nothing more.

I’ve several times seen b!tches getting totally wasted and fooling around (kissing, giving head and having sex) with several guys at parties. And as far as I could see no one was forcing them to do these things. But once they wake up the next morning they cry out that they forced me to do this because they (the b!tches) don’t want to be portrayed as cvm guzzling sluts.


Sh!t like this really pisses me off.

NOW that pisses me off. And do you know what? This kind of women should be put in jail.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Also, having sex with a drunk woman is rape. Because you are having sex with a person that lacks the faculty to make a decision. It is the same as having sex with a mentally challenge individual. .

So if you are drunk then a woman is guilty of rape??? It doesn't make sense!!!! Quit apologizing for hors!!!!

 

[Trojan]

1st of all, having sex with a girl that is drunk is not enough evidence to say she was raped. If we are all grown men here, we know this to be true. I'm tired of Latinoman saying if a chick is drunk and you have sex with her then you raped her. Something is wrong with your mind if that is how you think.

Back to the question: Yes I am with a girl right now who has been raped by a friend of hers a long time ago. This chick I am seeing is not normal by any means and has a very low opinion/ self esteem of herself and there is no way in hell that I would ever date a chick that has been raped/molested ever again. In the beginning she wanted sex ALL THE TIME, then it died off and I talked to her about it. She went on about how she felt unsexy and unattractive and that I deserve a hotter girl, ect. I worked with her through this and she is better about it, but our relationship can not compare to my other "normal " relations I had with other girls. There's no closeness like I had w other girls and theres this "coldness" about her even though she is a very caring girl, its still there.

This brings up a very important subject. When you are qualifying this girl for a LTR possibility, you have to ask tough questions before you start having feelings for her. Her past could effect YOUR future with her.

 

[KarmaSutra]

As far as animals...humans are animals...

I knew it! I knew you lived here in goddamned Polk county! :moon:

If you start claiming that drunk fvcking = rape...wow, talk about one slippery slope legal precedent! All a girl has to do is show she had at least 1 drink before you phucked her and you're essentially guilty - as she can then claim she had "too much" and there's no way you can prove she didn't. Remember, most rape cases still boil down to "he said, she said," and women get believed off the bat whether they are lying or not.

This was not my argument. I was retorting to your statement that most mentally challenged do not have the capacity to acknowledge a sexual relationship. I believe if mentally handicapped people are properly guided they can have and appreciate a fulfilling intimate relationship.

We need to send the OPPOSITE message here: if you want to keep your inhibitions/faculties around sex, then don't drink. Be smart, be accountable, be a lady. Quit passing the buck...the buck stops with YOU. This is really no different than drunk driving laws. Don't blame the booze, blame the person who chose to drink it.

Excellent point and well stated. Personal responsiblity is the cornerstone of maturity. Which succinctly makes my declaration that mentally handicapped people cannot, in most cases, make sexual decisions based on their life experience. However, those who take advantage are, in my eyes, rapists.

 

[KarmaSutra]

So if you are drunk then a woman is guilty of rape??? It doesn't make sense!!!! Quit apologizing for hors!!!!

Fvck. I can't believe I'm going to this but but I have to agree that this is an absolutely ridiculous statement in every direction. Women take all the time in the world to doll themselves up to garner attention from men when they hit the clubs or bars. They know damned good and well that they're creating an atmosphere of debauchery when combining alcohol and low cut jeans. They have to accept responsibility for what happens when they mix it up and put themselves in a position of innappropriate behaviour.

DO NOT mistake the fact that guys slip a girl a mickey to get her all fvcked up and take advantage. But when they knowingly take a guy home or go home with a guy because her mental acuity isn't 100% because of the booze SHE DRANKshe has to bear that responsibilty and not claim rape to assuage the blame of her being a slvt and convince herself of no wrongdoing.