Will a Rolex Get You Laid? Will a Rolex Help You Get a Longer Term Girlfriend?

[SW15]

I think the gold Rolexes are better for initially attracting than the steel or even two tone Rolexes. Few steel Rolexes are going to stand out nearly as much as a gold Rolex.

 

[SW15]

They are also more 'bling' and 9 out of 10 are fakes, so I think if you want to attract the smarter gold diggers you should go for the more subdued subtle Rolexes.

The potential problem with that approach is that your watch goes completely unnoticed.

 

[nicksaiz65]

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[SW15]

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Most cheap watches, even if they look good, won't get attention. You've got to get up to the Rolex class to get attention for your watch. It's also the gold Rolexes that get more attention than the steel ones. There are some very nice steel Rolexes but they don't quite stand out like a gold Rolex. The gold Rolexes also cost far more than the steel ones. The steel ones are also plenty expensive, but more of budget Rolexes.

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

Well I suppose R helps if it gives you confidence?
And if you like to collect nice things, I bet watches are better than high end knives, or AR-15s for pulling chicks!

In a more autistic tone:
In my own experience (as masculine looking guy) when signalling more provider-value qualities (wealth, liking children or kinder side of your persona) can make chicks really light up. But remember that slipping too much into provider-frame can make power-dynamics definately sh1ttier in the beginning.
No problem here, if you have good frame control / game.

 

[SW15]

By the time any dude should be able to comfortably afford Rolexes (being able to buy them casually like they're candy bars), it becomes irrelevant. Having a Rolex without also having a Rolls Royce is kind of like when guys have nice cars but live in sh1t apartments. You'll initially get the attention of women, but be sniffed out in due time.

If a man has a Rolex, it needs to work in conjunction with other possessions. It needs to work with his home and car. The Rolex isn't as big of a priority as the home, its furnishings, and the car.

There's an argument that in an initial approach, a Rolex can be seen without the car or the home being seen. The Rolex serves as somewhat of a lure because a man can't take his car into the bar/mall/grocery store to attract the women.

I have heard of men who will be out in public and display their car keys with a BMW or Mercedes-Benz logo on the keys in order to attract women. That's the closest way that a man could take his car into the bar.

Using the Rolex could be a little bit more subtle than using the BMW or Mercedes-Benz logo. The gold Rolexes attract more attention than the steel ones.

 

[nicksaiz65]

If a man has a Rolex, it needs to work in conjunction with other possessions. It needs to work with his home and car. The Rolex isn't as big of a priority as the home, its furnishings, and the car.

There's an argument that in an initial approach, a Rolex can be seen without the car or the home being seen. The Rolex serves as somewhat of a lure because a man can't take his car into the bar/mall/grocery store to attract the women.

I have heard of men who will be out in public and display their car keys with a BMW or Mercedes-Benz logo on the keys in order to attract women. That's the closest way that a man could take his car into the bar.

Using the Rolex could be a little bit more subtle than using the BMW or Mercedes-Benz logo. The gold Rolexes attract more attention than the steel ones.

For me, the hierarchy would be Home > Car > Watch.

Car debt is awful. Credit card debt is even worse. In the big picture, I don’t think it’s worth putting yourself into debt to get things to impress materialistic women.

 

[SW15]

For me, the hierarchy would be Home > Car > Watch.

I agree with the hierarchy. I would put home furnishings and home electronics as a part of home. It's good to have a relatively modern TV set as the primary TV set. If a TV set gets too old but is still functional, it can be moved to another room if one's home is spacious enough. This is more difficult for the bachelor in a 1 bedroom apartment. An aging primary TV set can be moved to the bedroom, but it is less than ideal to have a TV set in the bedroom.

There are even fashion accessories that you can put ahead of a watch. Shoes for instance. You could get some Bruno Magli shoes for $300-$500 right now. A basic pre-owned steel Rolex (which won't be as effective as a gold Rolex) will run around $5,000 - $5,500 right now. Going to an upscale lounge with some Bruno Magli shoes, a solid dress shirt, and a nice pair of pants could be around $700. You could get some impressive clothes and shoes for nightlife venue game for the cost of one steel Rolex. That might even impress women more than solely the Rolex.

I don’t think it’s worth putting yourself into debt to get things to impress women.

I disagree. It depends how much debt.

Some men have two primary options in conventional dating. They can use possessions to attract women or they can go without sex. All men pay for sex indirectly in conventional dating.

If your looks are on point, you're less likely to need money game. Going from a 7 to an 8.5 on looks means you won't need to use money as much. A 7 is an above average looking guy and he'll still likely need to use money.

When a man reaches 35-40, it's more difficult to win purely on looks. Money does become more of a factor in middle age. Men can compete effectively on looks alone until about 35-40.

Starting in the 35-40 range, there are fewer men who can attract solely on looks. There are some 35+ archetypes that can compete on looks alone, but its rare and almost non-existent after 50.

Money ages better than looks.

 

[zekko]

If a man has a Rolex, it needs to work in conjunction with other possessions. It needs to work with his home and car. The Rolex isn't as big of a priority as the home, its furnishings, and the car.

It's a fairly common thing for young people to get a cool car that they can't really afford. It would be stupid to get a Rolex if you can't really afford it. That said, I would think a cool car would get you laid faster than a watch. At least a cool car can be fun, and she can share in the fun because she gets to ride in it.

I remember once I had a 4x4 truck and it was struggling to get up a snowy ramp. I kicked the four wheel drive in, and it tore right up the ramp. The girl I had with me said "I think I just got wet".

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There are even fashion accessories that you can put ahead of a watch. Shoes for instance. You could get some Bruno Magli shoes for $300-$500 right now.

pshaw Edgar Allens, Ferregamo, Tom Ford in the same vein, and ferchrissakes do NOT buy Ferregamo loafers, Jesus Christ…

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I remember once I had a 4x4 truck and it was struggling to get up a snowy ramp. I kicked the four wheel drive in, and it tore right up the ramp. The girl I had with me said "I think I just got wet".

Lmfao!

You could solve that with an AWD, (as the owner of a mudslinger 4x4 diesel and a car equipped with 4Matic,) depending on the type of date I’d choose which to take, but mostly would take the sedan.

 

[SW15]

I would think a cool car would get you laid faster than a watch. At least a cool car can be fun, and she can share in the fun because she gets to ride in it.

I agree. The advantage of the Rolex is that you can take a Rolex into to a bar or non-bar venue and show it off in the initial approach. That's more difficult to do with a car, unless you happen to hold the car keys in your hand to show off a logo.

I remember once I had a 4x4 truck and it was struggling to get up a snowy ramp. I kicked the four wheel drive in, and it tore right up the ramp. The girl I had with me said "I think I just got wet".

That seems great!

 

[zekko]

You could solve that with an AWD, (as the owner of a mudslinger 4x4 diesel and a car equipped with 4Matic,) depending on the type of date I’d choose which to take, but mostly would take the sedan.

As I'm sure you know, RWD trucks are terrible to drive in slippery conditions, that's why you have to put weight back there if you have one. But I currently have a front wheel drive sedan, and I've never been stuck in it, it plows through snow like anything. Of course, our winters aren't as snowy as they used to be.

I agree. The advantage of the Rolex is that you can take a Rolex into to a bar or non-bar venue and show it off in the initial approach. That's more difficult to do with a car, unless you happen to hold the car keys in your hand to show off a logo.

Fair point.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I agree with the hierarchy. I would put home furnishings and home electronics as a part of home. It's good to have a relatively modern TV set as the primary TV set. If a TV set gets too old but is still functional, it can be moved to another room if one's home is spacious enough. This is more difficult for the bachelor in a 1 bedroom apartment. An aging primary TV set can be moved to the bedroom, but it is less than ideal to have a TV set in the bedroom.

There are even fashion accessories that you can put ahead of a watch. Shoes for instance. You could get some Bruno Magli shoes for $300-$500 right now. A basic pre-owned steel Rolex (which won't be as effective as a gold Rolex) will run around $5,000 - $5,500 right now. Going to an upscale lounge with some Bruno Magli shoes, a solid dress shirt, and a nice pair of pants could be around $700. You could get some impressive clothes and shoes for nightlife venue game for the cost of one steel Rolex. That might even impress women more than solely the Rolex.



I disagree. It depends how much debt.

Some men have two primary options in conventional dating. They can use possessions to attract women or they can go without sex. All men pay for sex indirectly in conventional dating.

If your looks are on point, you're less likely to need money game. Going from a 7 to an 8.5 on looks means you won't need to use money as much. A 7 is an above average looking guy and he'll still likely need to use money.

When a man reaches 35-40, it's more difficult to win purely on looks. Money does become more of a factor in middle age. Men can compete effectively on looks alone until about 35-40.

Starting in the 35-40 range, there are fewer men who can attract solely on looks. There are some 35+ archetypes that can compete on looks alone, but its rare and almost non-existent after 50.

Money ages better than looks.

I agree with the point about some men needing to use money. However, I want to clarify a bit on my point here…

I don’t think that leveraging debt to get women is a sustainable strategy. Yeah, you can get the nice car and luxury items, but at some point, you’re going to hit a point where your creditors demand you pay them back. You’re going to be stuck.

At that point, I think it would be better to just work really hard and have the money if that’s your strategy. And leave the assh0le creditors from hell out of it.

 

[SW15]

I don’t think that leveraging debt to get women is a sustainable strategy. Yeah, you can get the nice car and luxury items, but at some point, you’re going to hit a point where your creditors demand you pay them back. You’re going to be stuck.

At that point, I think it would be better to just work really hard and have the money if that’s your strategy. And leave the assh0le creditors from hell out of it.

It is a good idea for a man to live within his means. Many people don't live within their means.

There are plenty of stories of men living beyond their means in an effort to attract, seduce, and retain some women. I have a quick example below.

One place where men live beyond their means to try to impress women is in Scottsdale, Arizona (suburb of Phoenix). Scottsdale men of multiple ages (typically ranging from 20s-50s) use this tactic with the commonly found shallow, materialistic women who spend time in Scottsdale (typically at night in the Old Town Scottsdale bars). In general, the Phoenix area doesn't have a lot of good corporate jobs so a lot of white collar men go into debt to look the part to impress women. When something happens, like a recession hits, these men are exposed as phonies quickly. Repo trucks were everywhere in Scottsdale in 2007-2009 when the Great Recession hit.

I want to be clear that this happens everywhere, not just Phoenix-Scottsdale. Scottsdale is the most shallow and image oriented place in Metro Phoenix. If anyone wants to talk about the Phoenix-Scottsdale specific parts of this, I've expanded upon it in the Phoenix Scene thread.

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When men live beyond their means, they are buying a lot of stuff. A Rolex or other expensive watch may be a part of the look. Cars are commonly a part of overspending. Housing may be a part of overspending. Home furnishings too.

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

1. Game is for getting vag.
2. Money is for you, not for getting vag
3. You is more valuable than random vag

Therefore In would say:
stocks,ETFs,bonds,rental units, businesses eg. Assets > home > car,rolex,boat and other liabilities.

Especially bad debt is something that really keeps you poor and you know it in your heart when you drive that brand new car you bought on credit.

And if you are into LTR:s this is good screening tool:

Chick that you get because of your liabilities is the wife that will keep you forever poor. No matter your income she wil make you waste it all.

..but the chick that thinks that your rental units are cool.. well thats a whole different story..

 

[SW15]

1. Game is for getting vag.
2. Money is for you, not for getting vag
3. You is more valuable than random vag

Money is one component of Game. Game is any combination of looks, money, status, and personality.

Money can be used to acquire possessions to get vag in conventional dating.

Acquiring a Rolex can be considered a means of getting vag.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

One place where men live beyond their means to try to impress women is in Scottsdale, Arizona (suburb of Phoenix). Scottsdale men of multiple ages (typically ranging from 20s-50s) use this tactic with the commonly found shallow, materialistic women who spend time in Scottsdale (typically at night in the Old Town Scottsdale bars).

The scene on the weekends at the W in Scottsdale about 7 years ago was absurd, guys valeting theirs h3's, and low-budget hoebillies rolling out of them...the pool scene was ridiculous. I usually stayed at W's when I traveled a lot, in most cities it is a great boutique hotel, the one in Scottsdale DEFINED kitsch. I relocated my stays to the Desert Ridge Marriot - 5 bars IN the resort - and a much better, and healthier pool scene.

 

[SW15]

the one in Scottsdale DEFINED kitsch.

That sounds very Scottsdale. The W Scottsdale is in Old Town Scottsdale, which is known for a lot of posturing.

Old Town Scottsdale guys are trying so hard to do whatever it takes to impress women. It's often some combination of money or fitness/muscle. There is a lot of phoniness and insecurity among men who go to places in Scottsdale.

The areas around Maya Dayclub, Bottled Blonde, El Hefe, Hi Fi, and Riot House are typical Scottsdale fake and kitsch. Both tourists and locals go to those places. In the late 1990s-2000s, that general area had similar fake and kitsch bars under different names.

It would be typical behavior for a guy to wear a Rolex to an Old Town Scottsdale nightlife venue and do everything he could to get women to notice his Rolex.

I relocated my stays to the Desert Ridge Marriot - 5 bars IN the resort - and a much better, and healthier pool scene.

Desert Ridge is North Phoenix and a little bit more subdued. Almost all Phoenix venues have a little bit less of the extreme fake and posturing behavior of Scottsdale.

 

[logicallefty]

I am too redneck to ever wear a Rolex. I can’t even say I would recognize one if I saw it.