Will a Rolex Get You Laid? Will a Rolex Help You Get a Longer Term Girlfriend?

[Pierce Manhammer]

One place where men live beyond their means to try to impress women is in Scottsdale, Arizona (suburb of Phoenix). Scottsdale men of multiple ages (typically ranging from 20s-50s) use this tactic with the commonly found shallow, materialistic women who spend time in Scottsdale (typically at night in the Old Town Scottsdale bars).

The scene on the weekends at the W in Scottsdale about 7 years ago was absurd, guys valeting theirs h3's, and low-budget hoebillies rolling out of them...the pool scene was ridiculous. I usually stayed at W's when I traveled a lot, in most cities it is a great boutique hotel, the one in Scottsdale DEFINED kitsch. I relocated my stays to the Desert Ridge Marriot - 5 bars IN the resort - and a much better, and healthier pool scene.

 

[SW15]

the one in Scottsdale DEFINED kitsch.

That sounds very Scottsdale. The W Scottsdale is in Old Town Scottsdale, which is known for a lot of posturing.

Old Town Scottsdale guys are trying so hard to do whatever it takes to impress women. It's often some combination of money or fitness/muscle. There is a lot of phoniness and insecurity among men who go to places in Scottsdale.

The areas around Maya Dayclub, Bottled Blonde, El Hefe, Hi Fi, and Riot House are typical Scottsdale fake and kitsch. Both tourists and locals go to those places. In the late 1990s-2000s, that general area had similar fake and kitsch bars under different names.

It would be typical behavior for a guy to wear a Rolex to an Old Town Scottsdale nightlife venue and do everything he could to get women to notice his Rolex.

I relocated my stays to the Desert Ridge Marriot - 5 bars IN the resort - and a much better, and healthier pool scene.

Desert Ridge is North Phoenix and a little bit more subdued. Almost all Phoenix venues have a little bit less of the extreme fake and posturing behavior of Scottsdale.

 

[logicallefty]

I am too redneck to ever wear a Rolex. I can’t even say I would recognize one if I saw it.

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

Money is one component of Game. Game is any combination of looks, money, status, and personality.

Money can be used to acquire possessions to get vag in conventional dating.

Acquiring a Rolex can be considered a means of getting vag.

( I refer to the game as pu/seduction-, social- and psychological manipulation skills. Of course there are other things that increase your SMV as you mentioned. We could start another thread on this interesting topic.)

The first thing here is:

Spending money for liabilities to impress chicks is sad short term decision, because in longer term it keeps you poor. Which eventually makes yor SMV even lower than it is- > although really common phenomenon, this is stupid as fvck.

There's a trap of falling to provider frame instead of lover frame. With provider frame everything is more complicated and difficult. You get stupid waiting games and things like that. And from the get go you are labelled as low value guy who has to pay for vag instead of being a high value guy she wants to break all the rules to Fvck. So skip this afc/beta supplication -frame.

If you are wealthy and into LTR:s then it's even more critically important to careful with displaying that wealth. You might bag a gold digger with better game than you have -> your will be crushed.

 

[SW15]

Spending money for liabilities to impress chicks is sad short term decision, because in longer term it keeps you poor. Which eventually makes yor SMV even lower than it is- > although really common phenomenon, this is stupid as fvck.

There's a trap of falling to provider frame instead of lover frame. With provider frame everything is more complicated and difficult. You get stupid waiting games and things like that. And from the get go you are labelled as low value guy who has to pay for vag instead of being a high value guy she wants to break all the rules to Fvck. So skip this afc/beta supplication -frame.

Men considering buying Rolexes and other status symbol type brands are usually at least middle class. These are middle class + guys with bachelor's degrees and white collar jobs who aren't satisfied with the results from their romantic interactions.

There are plenty of men willing to buy something like a Rolex, a BMW, or a Mercedes-Benz in order to improve results with women.

Owning some status symbol brands might turn a rejection into provider frame. While provider frame is a more difficult place, it is better than lacking attention at all and getting every in-person approach turn into a rejection. Provider frame > incel/borderline incel

If a man owns status symbol brands, then he's going to need at least mediocre social skills. Below average social skills will mean that the man will need even more money to offset the poor social skills.

 

[SW15]

I am too redneck to ever wear a Rolex. I can’t even say I would recognize one if I saw it.

Rolex and redneck do not tend to go together.

 

[NealIRC]

Is Rolex the name of a company? Any watch made by Rolex is a Rolex?

 

[Gamisch]

With so many replicas / copies / 'homages' of Rolex watches, most women will assume your Rolex is as fake as you are, unless you're willing and able to take her for a spin in your Lamborghini to your Mediterranean yacht.

Depends on different factors

Generally speaking the Rolex is the last item you get, after the car crib ,clothes ect.

Its pointless to wear a Rolex while you live in a ghetto azz apartment, or you wear Walmart clothes that don't fit or drive a beat up car.

But if you look the part, a fake 400 dollar Rolex might definitely finish the job.

But yeah, before a man reaches that level he must still be SOMEWHAT financially stable/ well off..

Men considering buying Rolexes and other status symbol type brands are usually at least middle class. These are middle class + guys with bachelor's degrees and white collar jobs who aren't satisfied with the results from their romantic interactions.

There are plenty of men willing to buy something like a Rolex, a BMW, or a Mercedes-Benz in order to improve results with women.

Owning some status symbol brands might turn a rejection into provider frame. While provider frame is a more difficult place, it is better than lacking attention at all and getting every in-person approach turn into a rejection. Provider frame > incel/borderline incel

If a man owns status symbol brands, then he's going to need at least mediocre social skills. Below average social skills will mean that the man will need even more money to offset the poor social skills.

The problem is that these items WON'T magically give you more game. We can just look at the endless celebrities who get played.

And these are men with serious long money. The AFC only gets more AFC once he learns that the expensive items don't do shyte for him.

I think a broke man with confidence will always be ahead of an insecure man with expensive items. Ofcourse they can go hand in hand, but that's why "she" might still cheat on you with cool surfer, bar dude, bass player ect. ( alpha fuxx beta buxxx)

A man must find a place of peace where he is satisfied with himself regardless of what women think of him. The Rolex will just be a really short boost, and when such a man gets dumped for " the cool broke dude " his entire life/ believe system will collapse.

 

[SW15]

before a man reaches that level he must still be SOMEWHAT financially stable/ well off..

Would a Rolex make a difference for the type of guy described in the opening post?

Women Don't Want a Semi-Successful Man

Men in this category, $75k-$125k salary, relatively in shape, drive a good car, has a few hobbies, women do not want. Why? Because this man has standards. Women do not want to work for their men. Women of today want a simp or a millionaire. Simple as that. This is what society aka social media...

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I think it could help if the man has around average social skills and possibly some other status symbol possessions.

A Rolex is a later purchase after the bachelor pad and the car.

The advantage of the Rolex over the bachelor pad and the car is that the seducer is able to take the Rolex with him while in a daygame venue or a nightlife venue. It's impossible to take your bachelor pad into a bar or a grocery store. It is possible to do something like make your BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche logo car keys visible while in a bar. Showing off a Rolex might be easier in a mall and a few other daygame type venues than showing off BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche logo car keys.

The problem is that these items WON'T magically give you more game.

Having a Rolex or BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche logo car keys have the potential to attract some more women initially. These are highly likely to be gold digger types or at least superficial and pretentious types.

The AFC only gets more AFC once he learns that the expensive items don't do shyte for him.

An Average Frustrated Chump might get a small, short term bump from a Rolex or a luxury brand automobile. If he does not get more pussie as a result of the Rolex or luxury brand car, he will be even more PISSED.

A man must find a place of peace where he is satisfied with himself regardless of what women think of him. The Rolex will just be a really short boost, and when such a man gets dumped for " the cool broke dude " his entire life/ believe system will collapse.

For some AFC men, the short boost that a Rolex could provide might be all that they want. If they let their heart get into it too much (AFC/beta men are prone to this), then they could get played hard and getting dumped might lead to a life collapse.

 

[nicksaiz65]

1. Game is for getting vag.
2. Money is for you, not for getting vag
3. You is more valuable than random vag

Therefore In would say:
stocks,ETFs,bonds,rental units, businesses eg. Assets > home > car,rolex,boat and other liabilities.

Especially bad debt is something that really keeps you poor and you know it in your heart when you drive that brand new car you bought on credit.

And if you are into LTR:s this is good screening tool:

Chick that you get because of your liabilities is the wife that will keep you forever poor. No matter your income she wil make you waste it all.

..but the chick that thinks that your rental units are cool.. well thats a whole different story..

I finally found the quote I was looking for when I was rereading the Millionaire Fastlane. While imo the author pushes too hard as building a business being the only solution(I don’t think it is because the majority of businesses fail) he makes some very good points. Here is a quote about debt. I think this touches on why using debt as leverage to get women is not a sustainable strategy, even if the credit card companies want you to think it is:

“The average American owes more than they are worth. Having a lifestyle built on credit creates Lifestyle Servitude in the form of indentured time. And because total time is finite, indentured time grows by pilfering from free time. Indentured time leads to the Sidewalk. The next time you buy some fancy gadget on credit, know precisely what you are buying.”

“You’re buying parasitic debt that eats free time and transforms it into indentured time. For example, if you buy an audio system that costs $4,000 and make $10 per hour, what’s the actual price? That price is 400 hours of your free time since you must work 400 hours × $10 per hour to repay the debt. Add 10% interest and your final cost stacks up to 440 hours of your free time added to your weight burden. So next time you whip out the Visa, calculate the actual cost. How much free time is this going to cost me? Everything we buy has not one cost but two: The actual dollar cost The free time transformed into indentured time.”

 

[SW15]

For some men, they need possessions like a Rolex and a luxury car brand in order to get laid. If they don't have those things, they are more likely to be incel and being incel is bad. That factors into the analysis of what to do in a purchase situation.

 

[nicksaiz65]

For some men, they need possessions like a Rolex and a luxury car brand in order to get laid. If they don't have those things, they are more likely to be incel and being incel is bad. That factors into the analysis of what to do in a purchase situation.

This is very true. I just wanted to interject the point that in my opinion, trying to do this using only credit is destined to fail long-term. I will bash them at any chance I get lol.

I think the credit card companies know this and prey on it with their marketing.

 

[SW15]

I think the credit card companies know this and prey on it with their marketing.

Credit cards are not the only way to pay for things. There's also cash. Credit cards can also be paid off in full at the end of each pay period.

trying to do this using only credit is destined to fail long-term. I will bash them at any chance I get lol.

I think the credit card companies know this and prey on it with their marketing.

Plenty of men go into debt in an effort to seduce. I mentioned earlier in this thread about how Phoenix/Scottsdale men commonly spend money they don't have on items (including Rolexes) in order to impress women and get laid.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Credit cards are not the only way to pay for things. There's also cash. Credit cards can also be paid off in full at the end of each pay period.



Plenty of men go into debt in an effort to seduce. I mentioned earlier in this thread about how Phoenix/Scottsdale men commonly spend money they don't have on items (including Rolexes) in order to impress women and get laid.

Absolutely. If you’re going to be a man who uses money to attract/seduce, then ideally you should use cash or pay off your credit cards at the end of every cycle. That’s the main point I want to make, so the companies don’t make a killing in interest lol.

 

[SW15]

Rolexes came up on another thread and I want to bring the Rolex discussion to a Rolex specific thread.

2nd meet-up, and done...

Hi everyone, I posted a few weeks ago that I had a coffee date with a woman who is originally from Columbia. She warned me beforehand that her English wasn't the best, and after meeting her, I decided not to pursue anything further, because she was right... and I saw no-point escalating if...

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This is a guy who has a Rolex from his deceased father that he needs to get re-sized for roughly $1,500. New Rolexes are typically a lot more than $1,500. Spending $1,500 on getting the Rolex re-sized might get him more dating results in conventional dating

Get your Rolex re-sized and get it on your wrist! It has the potential to help with your seductions.

I honestly don't know if many people would actually know it is a Rolex, because it is actually a plain looking watch.

There are many plainer looking Rolex models, especially a lot of pre-1980 models. Since your father owned the watch, I'm guessing it is a pre-1980 Rolex. Is it a steel Rolex? The stainless steel Rolex don't stand out as much as gold Rolexes and don't tend to get noticed by women as much. A stainless steel Rolex can help but you might have to point it out more.

 

[DarwinTaurus]

Rolexes came up on another thread and I want to bring the Rolex discussion to a Rolex specific thread.

2nd meet-up, and done...

Hi everyone, I posted a few weeks ago that I had a coffee date with a woman who is originally from Columbia. She warned me beforehand that her English wasn't the best, and after meeting her, I decided not to pursue anything further, because she was right... and I saw no-point escalating if...

www.sosuave.net

There are many plainer looking Rolex models, especially a lot of pre-1980 models. Since your father owned the watch, I'm guessing it is a pre-1980 Rolex. Is it a steel Rolex? The stainless steel Rolex don't stand out as much as gold Rolexes and don't tend to get noticed by women as much. A stainless steel Rolex can help but you might have to point it out more.

No, it is not that old. Post the year 2000, and yes, it is stainless steel, not gold.

 

[SW15]

No, it is not that old. Post the year 2000, and yes, it is stainless steel, not gold.

That's reasonably new. I was expecting it to be older. It's worth some time on your wrist to see if it brings you some more pussie.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Imo for the vast majority of women you come across its not going to make a blind bit of difference

materialistic / narcissistic women ( the worst kinds of women ) may notice and may give you some brownie points

Most women though aren't really going to care , what the care about is how the room reacts to you , how individuals react to you , your composure , your confidence around her

this is what women care about and are attracted too not stupid brand name accessories

 

[DarwinTaurus]

That's reasonably new. I was expecting it to be older. It's worth some time on your wrist to see if it brings you some more pussie.

My Dad bought it after he retired. I don't think he ever actually wore it much. I think he just treated himself to a luxury good, knowing that it would increase in value. I have the original box as well, when I'm home from work, I'll try and find the specific model.

 

[SW15]

I have the original box as well, when I'm home from work, I'll try and find the specific model.

Thanks. I suspect it is something like a Rolex Datejust 16200, which was a basic steel Rolex from the 1990s/early 2000s. That's a nice watch.