Why you should never take a woman's words at face value

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iqqi said:
Like I said before. If money is the numero uno most important factor to a woman, said woman is a gold digger. Plain and simple. Some people keep spurning looks matter threads, some people keep spurning money matters threads. Both these people have issues with the topics. STR8UP is not good looking, so he needs to believe that money might get him what he wants. It is going to get him a gold digger.

However this seems to be good for him, as he will atleast understand this type of woman.
Ouch.

Edit: Doesn't mean he'll be happy with em either. Maybe he needs to find a different crowd.
 

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edger said:
Oh yeah, re-read Rollo's post too on how his wife chose him while he had no money, over 2 wealthy guys.
In my experience with women in my 26 years of dealing with them, I think Rollo is pretty spot on too.
 

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Ouch.

Edit: Doesn't mean he'll be happy with em either. Maybe he needs to find a different crowd.

I think from his posts about the people he hangs around, he hangs around people like him. Birds of a feather flock together. Maybe that is why he doesn't understand that some women don't value money, status, OR looks, as much as they value intangible things such as personality, similar life outlook, humour, morals, ect.

This thread and ones like it don't make any damned sense to me. Don't they know any "unwealthy" men? There are a damned lot of them. They are married, and a lot of them are happy. And a lot of them don't have status, or looks either. And they have smokin wives.

Some people just live in their own universe, and are afraid to step outside of it.
 

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Hey listen

Str8up, edgar, joekerr, others....let me tell u guys something.

1.) This thread is another "great debate" on how shallow women are in America, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But let's let the truth be told!

>> Guys dish out money to women, through dates, gifts, etc....WHY DA FVCK SHOULDN'T SHE TAKE IT? Matter of fact, why the fvck shouldn't she LOOK TO FIND "FRIENDS" like that?

Write this on your refrigerator

1.) If a woman can find a guy that she finds "semi-sexually attractive" but he will dish out cash, she will KEEP HIS AZZ. (And why shouldn't she?)

2.) If a woman can find a guy that she finds "very sexually attractive" but he has no ambition, no goals, no shyt......SHE WILL KEEP HIS AZZ LOL.

>> The key here is this, women are attracted to GREAT FVCKS! When you can FVCK HER MIND before even touching her....when you can FVCK HER BODY and make her feel better than ever before, SHE WILL LOVE YOU FOR THIS!

That's what women want! This is NOT 50 years ago, women can get their own degrees, get their own cash, wtf do they NEED men to do that for? One thing they can't seem to do is find GOOD FVCKS!

Strup, joekerr, edgar, the rest of the guys......men don't understand this. Don't try to IMPRESS women with goods, status, cash, cars....none of that is needed anymore, and quite honestly was ONLY NEEDED back in the day was because WOMEN COULDN'T GET IT ON THERE OWN!

If you want to be a jackazz, and OFFER cash, status, a lifestyle, etc. to women, then WHY SHOULDN'T SHE TAKE IT? Wouldn't you take free money?

The problem is with men, if you DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL PROBLEM, you will PRESCRIBE THE WRONG SOLUTION.

The problem isn't women are shallow and only go for guys that can provide. The problem is men don't understand that women AREN'T SEXUALLY SATISIFED, and are looking for a GOOD FVCK FIRST.....FIRST. Hell, as far as the actual relationship goes, she can help your sorry azz find a job lol.

>> Don't mean to sound "like an idiot" lol, but after coming back on this site after some time and really just seeing the same ol' posts.....I mean, when is it going to end?

Women have WHAT you are looking for, however they only GIVE IT to the guy that FVCKS HER GOOD! Try focusing on being a GREAT FVCK instead of TRYING TO CHANGE WOMEN, and maybe....just maybe......your women will love you more.
 

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iqqi said:
I think from his posts about the people he hangs around, he hangs around people like him. Birds of a feather flock together. Maybe that is why he doesn't understand that some women don't value money, status, OR looks, as much as they value intangible things such as personality, similar life outlook, humour, morals, ect.

This thread and ones like it don't make any damned sense to me. Don't they know any "unwealthy" men? There are a damned lot of them. They are married, and a lot of them are happy. And a lot of them don't have status, or looks either. And they have smokin wives.

Some people just live in their own universe, and are afraid to step outside of it.
Ahhhhhhhhhh... I agree.
 

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ThunderMack and Iqqi, read my reply above.

Str8up is the man, joekerr is too.....but really guys dig their own graves.

It's GUYS that base their entire altercation with women around money, status, etc. ........WOMEN will LOVE YOU if you FVCK THEM GREAT, if you are boring mentally, socially, in the bed and can't fvck their MINDS, BODIES, AND SOUL.....they WILL NOT LIKE YOU.....PERIOD!

Women have everything you are looking for and SAYING that they LACK, but they WILL NOT GIVE IT TO YOU (show you love), unless you EARN IT....not earn it in salary but EARN IT in FVCKING HER.
 

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iqqi said:
This thread and ones like it don't make any damned sense to me. Don't they know any "unwealthy" men? There are a damned lot of them. They are married, and a lot of them are happy. And a lot of them don't have status, or looks either. And they have smokin wives.
Thank you, this is what I've been saying. And I agree with everything else you've said in your last 2 posts. First time I'm agreeing with ya here. I hope it stays this way.
 

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HAHAH swifty, A GUY goes up to a woman wit his shiny new car, pullin out cash, talkin bout takin her out on a "date".....lemme tell u, I would go out on a date with a guy that did that! And I'm a fvcking guy! Who the fvck wouldn't want a free meal, free movie, free trip to the amusement park in shyt.

Guys are stupid..........and they only use "dates" because THEY ARE shallow, they are horny bastards, AFRAID TO BE SEXUAL, and want to HOLD BACK...and go on a boring azz dinner date........

Look....fvck da bullshyt, the bytch knows what you are here for and quite honestly, it's what SHE'S THERE FOR......she's saying, "FVCK ME PLEASE!"

Give your money to your stock broker, LEAVE IT THERE.....and focus on being a GREAT FVCK.....then all of your whining about "shallow women" will stop!

Me personally? Me personally? I make good money............but I USE THE FVCK OUTTA WOMEN FO EVERYTHING! I drive they car, I have bytches paying MY BILLS, all that shyt.

You better get with the game...bros.
 

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edger said:
Str8up, are you retarded?
I will ignore that personal jab.

No really, serious question, are you? For the 10th time this week dude, I've been telling you I have NO PROBLEM WITH, AND HOW IT MAKES SENSE A WOMAN WANTING TO MARRY A MAN WHO WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR HER IF SHE WANT'S KID'S AND IS PREGNANT. All I was talking about in this thread was gold-diggers.
No, everything with you gets turned into a "Mansion and SUV" type discussion. YOU turn it into such. It starts out as a civil expression of opinion which YOU take as being something other than what it is, as evidenced by our agreement on the topic when it comes down to it.

In another thread you said "status doesn't exist". It does. that tells me all I need to know about who i am debating on this topic. You deny reality. You preach idealism (this is the REAL world, not "edger world"). You aren't reasonable. You go off on other people because they say something that you perceive as a personal attack or SOMETHING, I have no idea, but the whole thing gets derailed and I can't make heads or tails of your argument cause most of the time you THINK you hear something that isn't there. Last thread it was you thinking that I was saying that I was "better" than other people. This thread it's you thinking people are saying that you have to own "a mansion and 4 SUV's" to get laid. I challenge you or anyone else to point out where i said anything about you having to own a bunch of material possessions to get a woman, or in the other thread where I said I was "better" than anyone else. You can't, because I didn't say anything of the sort, which goes to prove who is flying off the handle here.

And another thing...JonWon seems to have the same stance as me, why don't you rant on to him? Of course it's better you don't though, cause look what I'm going through with you.
Jonwon presents a legitimate argument, and doesn't resort to biased attacks. When you start comprehending the topics that are being discussed then you will get the same type of responses as I give jonwon.
 

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edger said:
Oh yeah, re-read Rollo's post too on how his wife chose him while he had no money, over 2 wealthy guys.
1- I'm pretty sure Rollo sees things roughly the same way I do on this subject.

2- I made it very clear that this is based upon ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL. Rollo pointed out that the guys with money (actually, not necessarily guys with money but guys with a fat paycheck....big difference) were in fact AFC's. Throw in different variables and the outcome changes. I never denied that.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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HAHAH swifty, A GUY goes up to a woman wit his shiny new car, pullin out cash, talkin bout takin her out on a "date".....lemme tell u, I would go out on a date with a guy that did that! And I'm a fvcking guy! Who the fvck wouldn't want a free meal, free movie, free trip to the amusement park in shyt.
Lol. Your a funny and alright dude.

The funny is, a lot of women WON'T go on a date with that guy, because he is obviously trying to BUY something. The women that do go on that date are buyable. Or they don't care that the dude is going to be P!ssed that he doesn't "get what he paid for". In that way, they are wolves, feasting on sheeps calling themselves men. The real pyriah is the woman who marries him though.
 

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If any of you have't seen Hitman yet, you should.

Watch how the main character mind fvcks the chick throughout the whole movie. I was wishing the chump I was with would cut out all the damned annoying creepy "kino" crap, and was wishing I was the chick sitting across from a guy who didn't have to touch her to get her to want him.

Edit: Lol, I would do another reverse field report, but fvck that sh!t. I've had enough flaming for awhile. He was really good looking, rich, and a few other plusses, but I won't be seeing him again!

Oh, Johnie, I am a girl. :)
 

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STR8UP said:
This brings up an interesting point.

I am of the firm belief that it isn't necessarily wealth or resources that attract women, it is the core qualities that allow a man to ACQUIRE resources that women are most attracted to.

Women throw out sh!t tests to determine whether or not you are the real deal, or just a weak sissy boy putting up a front.

It's easy to get credit and PRETEND you are rich.

A woman in her late teens or early 20's might fukk you for a ride in your pimped out Corolla, but when they get a little older things change for most of them. It's the personality traits that get you laid moreso than the toys.

I've said it before......I do just as good if not better with women I meet who have never been to my place or seen my car or know what I do for a living. Now most women I meet are through friends, so it could have a lot to do with the fact that my FRIENDS talk me up before I meet a new woman, but it still goes back to the fact that a woman is more likely to believe something if she sees it INDIRECTLY. They are more likely to respond positively to the QUALITIES a wealthy man possesses or a recommendation from a third party than physical displays of wealth or the flaunting of those physical displays by the person who possesses them.

Totally agree. Actually I agree with everything you posted in this thread that I've read up to the quoted post so far. This is why I bundle money with status. Women don't care so much about what money buys, they don't even care about all the junk they buy themselves. Women don't care about objects. It's all about status really.
 

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iqqi said:
Like I said before. If money is the numero uno most important factor to a woman, said woman is a gold digger.
Blah, blah, female/AFC/matrix misconceptions.

Some people keep spurning looks matter threads, some people keep spurning money matters threads. Both these people have issues with the topics. STR8UP is not good looking, so he needs to believe that money might get him what he wants. It is going to get him a gold digger.
Wow, that stings coming from an anonymous poster who half of the people on this board have good reason to believe might be a GUY. I'm flattered that you might be inclined to judge me based upon my appearance, however, I won't be taking any applications from homosexuals anytime soon, so I guess it;s a good thing you beleive that i am not attractive.

And if anyone on this board doubts that I am who I say I am....Deep Dish lives about 15 minutes from me. We had a drink the other night and he stopped by my place for a few minutes before heading home. He has even met some of my friends. I have also met up with Karma and Rollo who both live close.

Who are you? I posted dozens of photos with me and my friends. You were the only person who claimed that i was "funny looking". Yet you refuse to post a picture of yourself.

Let me explain a few things.

First of all, I never claimed that I was wealthy. I wanna set the record straight. I claimed to know ABOUT wealth. I will be extremely wealthy one day due to the fact that I possess this knowledge, but I never once claimed I was wealthy.

Secondly, even BEFORE I was driving a new BMW and living in a rock star style crib, I had hot girlfriends who were 5-10 years my junior. Ever since I was in my early 20's women were attracted to me for my personality traits that are precursors for success.

In summary....put up or shut up. Lets see some valid proof of you being who you say you are, or me and several other posters will take it as verification that you ARE the phony that you are believed to be.
 

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STR8UP said:
Blah, blah, female/AFC/matrix misconceptions.



Wow, that stings coming from an anonymous poster who half of the people on this board have good reason to believe might be a GUY. I'm flattered that you might be inclined to judge me based upon my appearance, however, I won't be taking any applications from homosexuals anytime soon, so I guess it;s a good thing you beleive that i am not attractive.

And if anyone on this board doubts that I am who I say I am....Deep Dish lives about 15 minutes from me. We had a drink the other night and he stopped by my place for a few minutes before heading home. He has even met some of my friends. I have also met up with Karma and Rollo who both live close.

Who are you? I posted dozens of photos with me and my friends. You were the only person who claimed that i was "funny looking". Yet you refuse to post a picture of yourself.

Let me explain a few things.

First of all, I never claimed that I was wealthy. I wanna set the record straight. I claimed to know ABOUT wealth. I will be extremely wealthy one day due to the fact that I possess this knowledge, but I never once claimed I was wealthy.

Secondly, even BEFORE I was driving a new BMW and living in a rock star style crib, I had hot girlfriends who were 5-10 years my junior. Ever since I was in my early 20's women were attracted to me for my personality traits that are precursors for success.

In summary....put up or shut up. Lets see some valid proof of you being who you say you are, or me and several other posters will take it as verification that you ARE the phony that you are believed to be.
Ouch... not. :cool:

by the way your first statement and the rest of your post... kind of contradict each other. silly goose!
 

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iqqi said:
I think from his posts about the people he hangs around, he hangs around people like him. Birds of a feather flock together. Maybe that is why he doesn't understand that some women don't value money, status, OR looks, as much as they value intangible things such as personality, similar life outlook, humour, morals, ect.
Yea yea, back to the whole "STR8UP only associates with the fringes of society" deal.

If any of you met the people in my social circles you would see just how "normal" these people are. I simply get to see a side of people others never see because I have opened my eyes and I am no longer a judgmental fool who pretends that life is rainbows and daisies.
 

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John-467 said:
Women have WHAT you are looking for, however they only GIVE IT to the guy that FVCKS HER GOOD! Try focusing on being a GREAT FVCK instead of TRYING TO CHANGE WOMEN, and maybe....just maybe......your women will love you more.
At the usual risk of coming off as a braggart, I'm gonna tell you for 100% certain that I know how to rock a woman's sox and leave her wondering what just happened. Doesn't mean a goddamned thing when you place it against a woman's biological imperative. The 30 minutes of pure ecstasy you give her take a back seat to the flood of emotions she feels the other 16 hours she is awake.
 

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STR8UP said:
Blah, blah, female/AFC/matrix misconceptions.



Wow, that stings coming from an anonymous poster who half of the people on this board have good reason to believe might be a GUY. I'm flattered that you might be inclined to judge me based upon my appearance, however, I won't be taking any applications from homosexuals anytime soon, so I guess it;s a good thing you beleive that i am not attractive.

And if anyone on this board doubts that I am who I say I am....Deep Dish lives about 15 minutes from me. We had a drink the other night and he stopped by my place for a few minutes before heading home. He has even met some of my friends. I have also met up with Karma and Rollo who both live close.

Who are you? I posted dozens of photos with me and my friends. You were the only person who claimed that i was "funny looking". Yet you refuse to post a picture of yourself.

Let me explain a few things.

First of all, I never claimed that I was wealthy. I wanna set the record straight. I claimed to know ABOUT wealth. I will be extremely wealthy one day due to the fact that I possess this knowledge, but I never once claimed I was wealthy.

Secondly, even BEFORE I was driving a new BMW and living in a rock star style crib, I had hot girlfriends who were 5-10 years my junior. Ever since I was in my early 20's women were attracted to me for my personality traits that are precursors for success.

In summary....put up or shut up. Lets see some valid proof of you being who you say you are, or me and several other posters will take it as verification that you ARE the phony that you are believed to be.
Wow wow

Edit: Sorry, I love to instigate.
 

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iqqi said:
think from his (Str8up) posts about the people he hangs around, he hangs around people like him. Birds of a feather flock together. Maybe that is why he doesn't understand that some women don't value money, status, OR looks, as much as they value intangible things such as personality, similar life outlook, humour, morals, ect.
See I predicted this in the begining of the thread. I knew a female would say women don't value money, status or looks. No according to women it's personality and being a nice guy. Gee, why do so many guys have problems with women when all they need is to be personable and nice:rolleyes: ?

Even when women are in the wrong they're cognizant of it, but it's their nature to still never admit it and to "confuse" the issue. Ex: Women say and think, "Making money the number 1 factor for going for a guy is being a gold digger. Being a gold digger is wrong!" (woman thinks or maybe it's even subconcious, she can't be "wrong"). So it becomes: "I went for him because xyz, blah blah blah." Voila she's magically not a good digger, according to her. And the gullible man believes every word she said at face value.
How easy it was to predict iqqi would do the above! :crackup:
 

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