Why you should never take a woman's words at face value

[ketostix]

OOOOH! yeah! you are so clever! you really got me, you witty (not) little devil!

You can't own anything when you can't even spell, mon cherie.

It's called sloppy typing and typos.

I believe iqqi is a female. No man could be as irrational and illogical and abrasive as she is. Iqqi is the new Wyldfire, except Wyldfire actually had better arguments and wasn't just trying to attack everyone on here.

 

[ketostix]

Don't you enjoy her condescending remarks, young keto?

LOL Yeah. It's like the saying, "You can always tell a woman, but you can't tell her much."

 

[wjh]

Why would you even get involved in the iq bashing right now, I don't get it.

I am glad that you are getting what you want, Alias, of course you should keep doing what you do. DUH.

That statement applies to the people who aren't getting what they want. Most likely they aren't changing anything they do.

It is common sense, but noone seems to change their thinking, and change their actions. So they keep getting the same things out of life. And they stay unsatisfied with what they are getting.

Whatever. Bash on. (John... this is what they probably do with girls in real life too...)

Bye, fellas.

If that's not a blatant assumption and poor generalization, I don't know what is.

 

[aliasguy]

Why would you even get involved in the iq bashing right now, I don't get it.

I am glad that you are getting what you want, Alias, of course you should keep doing what you do. DUH.

That statement applies to the people who aren't getting what they want. Most likely they aren't changing anything they do.

It is common sense, but noone seems to change their thinking, and change their actions. So they keep getting the same things out of life. And they stay unsatisfied with what they are getting.

Whatever. Bash on. (John... this is what they probably do with girls in real life too...)

Bye, fellas.

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I piped up because your tone is HORRIBLE. And it's condescending, smug, and self-righteous. And you REFUSE to see another's point of view, except when it echoes yours, or provides validation to you.

(I know what I'm talking about, because I've been guilty of this kind of thing before. Right here on this forum. I learned from it. I hope I don't fall into that pattern again.)

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[STR8UP]

Well, sir. In your first statement you said my statement was basically because I was a girl. Then the rest of your post dealt with the myth that I am really a man. The me being a man myth comes from my staggering ability to reason and be witty. And that all contradicts your first statement that I said something because I was a girl!

You guys and your "you a girl, you a man" insults. Its funny how much those are thrown around when you don't agree with someone, or someone doesn't agree with you. It doesn't even make any kind of logical sense!

I said "See....if you truly ARE a woman, iqqi, this is EXACTLY what I am talking about."

There isn't a whole lot of difference between a woman and a bona fide plugged-in AFC. Which are you? The evidence I have seen points to you being the former.

 

[wjh]

BTW, if you guys can't tell that iqqi obviously looks upon almost everyone on this entire forum with disdain, you're blind.

I'm almost positive she views her "input" in here as a type of divine intervention - her calling, so to speak. She's "rescuing" us from our "pathetic" routines. It disgusts me. Her pivoting makes me want to puke. It's one of the most unattractive qualities a woman can have.

Her condescending remarks just highlight it. Look at her sig "Tired of you fvckers and your "what is a HB10" rants. So I had to dig this up... enjoy" Yes iqqi thank you for your blessing. WHATEVER!

 

[wjh]

...your tone is HORRIBLE. And it's condescending, smug, and self-righteous. And you REFUSE to see another's point of view, except when it echoes yours, or provides validation to you.

That pretty much nails her and any other feminist I've run into.

 

[John-467]

AHAHAHA....WTF IS GOING ON.

Yo Yo, STru8p, keno, guys....can you relax a lil bite? God damn, you guys are pissed off

lmfao haha.

It's okay, it's okay.......you're right and I'm wrong haha...whatever.

This is what I'm saying, you guys take this "Whole women shyt" wayyy too seriously dudes, can you chill da fvck out plz lol.

wjh u said this to da chick,

"Why are you even on this site? What does this do for you? Don't you have girlfriends to talk to? Don't you have friends? Most guys are on this site for very similar reasons. It's a site designed for men, and a particular type of man or boy."

wjh actually this is a question dat u should ask to da guys on this site, U are the ones coming here looking to LEARN information on getting laid....and the information you guys debate about in here is so one-sided, wrong, and really...quite honestly....it really doesn't it SOUND like you guys EVEN TALK TO WOMEN...it's like you just give your OWN OPINIONS, BELIEFS, JUDGEMENTS, on someting that you don't engage in << just my opinion, don't go getting offended lol.

Actually da chick is right guys, keep doing what you've been doing and you'll be getting what you've been getting.....IF this site was SOO WONDERFUL, there's no God Damn reason u guys would be here EVERY SINGLE DAY STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL debating the same shyt.

(leaves before I get jumped lmfao)

 

[wjh]

AHAHAHA....WTF IS GOING ON.

Yo Yo, STru8p, keno, guys....can you relax a lil bite? God damn, you guys are pissed off

lmfao haha.

It's okay, it's okay.......you're right and I'm wrong haha...whatever.

This is what I'm saying, you guys take this "Whole women shyt" wayyy too seriously dudes, can

you chill da fvck out plz lol.

wjh u said this to da chick,

"Why are you even on this site? What does this do for you? Don't you have girlfriends to talk

to? Don't you have friends? Most guys are on this site for very similar reasons. It's a site

designed for men, and a particular type of man or boy."

wjh actually this is a question dat u should ask to da guys on this site, U are the ones

coming here looking to LEARN information on getting laid....and the information you guys

debate about in here is so one-sided, wrong, and really...quite honestly....it really doesn't

it SOUND like you guys EVEN TALK TO WOMEN...it's like you just give your OWN OPINIONS,

BELIEFS, JUDGEMENTS, on someting that you don't engage in << just my opinion, don't go

getting offended lol.

Actually da chick is right guys, keep doing what you've been doing and you'll be getting what

you've been getting.....IF this site was SOO WONDERFUL, there's no God Damn reason u guys

would be here EVERY SINGLE DAY STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL debating the same shyt.

(leaves before I get jumped lmfao)

What the hell are you talking about?

Read through my posts - when the hell was the last time I ever posted anything about getting laid? Sex is not hard for me to get. I can have sex most of the time if I wanted it.

This site has been a major, major source of my intellectual growth - believe it or not - and it has nothing to do with getting laid.

If the intelligent discussion of ideas intimidates you, get the fvck out!

Wow you have women paying your bills - good for you - that's something to be proud of. I don't look up to that and I'm sure most of the regular posters in the mature man forum wouldn't either. Why? Because that's superficial and irrelevant to what it is to be a MAN.

Granted lame, and repeated topics get posted on here. That's to be expected considering the volume of members, but on balance this site is a goldmine for MANY men SEARCHING for answers.

I've found that most of my recent posts on this site, unfortunately, have been defending this site and its regular posters. I can't stand the fact that this is attacked - our questioning and pondering our beliefs (that you so adimately don't care about) - when we get bashed for these opinions OFFLINE.

 

[ketostix]

AHAHAHA....WTF IS GOING ON.

Yo Yo, STru8p, keno, guys....can you relax a lil bite? God damn, you guys are pissed off

lmfao haha.

It's okay, it's okay.......you're right and I'm wrong haha...whatever.

This is what I'm saying, you guys take this "Whole women shyt" wayyy too seriously dudes, can

you chill da fvck out plz lol.

wjh u said this to da chick,

"Why are you even on this site? What does this do for you? Don't you have girlfriends to talk

to? Don't you have friends? Most guys are on this site for very similar reasons. It's a site

designed for men, and a particular type of man or boy."

wjh actually this is a question dat u should ask to da guys on this site, U are the ones

coming here looking to LEARN information on getting laid....and the information you guys

debate about in here is so one-sided, wrong, and really...quite honestly....it really doesn't

it SOUND like you guys EVEN TALK TO WOMEN...it's like you just give your OWN OPINIONS,

BELIEFS, JUDGEMENTS, on someting that you don't engage in << just my opinion, don't go

getting offended lol.

Actually da chick is right guys, keep doing what you've been doing and you'll be getting what

you've been getting.....IF this site was SOO WONDERFUL, there's no God Damn reason u guys

would be here EVERY SINGLE DAY STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL debating the same shyt.

(leaves before I get jumped lmfao)

John true question, are you the guy friend iqqi hooked up with last weekend? Or maybe you're some other associate of hers? I don't expect a truthful answer, but I had to ask. My BS radar went off.

 

[STR8UP]

"Why are you even on this site? What does this do for you? Don't you have girlfriends to talk to? Don't you have friends?

I don't particularly desire a g/f at this point in my life. I hook up from time to time and have plenty of friends, thank you.

wjh actually this is a question dat u should ask to da guys on this site, U are the ones coming here looking to LEARN information on getting laid....and the information you guys debate about in here is so one-sided, wrong, and really...quite honestly....it really doesn't it SOUND like you guys EVEN TALK TO WOMEN...it's like you just give your OWN OPINIONS, BELIEFS, JUDGEMENTS, on someting that you don't engage in << just my opinion, don't go getting offended lol.

Well, your post is barely comprehensible, but from what I gathered you are insinuating that I come her to learn how to get laid, which I can assure you is not the case. I passed that mark a few months in.

IF this site was SOO WONDERFUL, there's no God Damn reason u guys would be here EVERY SINGLE DAY STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL debating the same shyt.

I think you are probably 16 years old so I don't even know why i am responding, but I come here for WISDOM, not knowledge. I am here to gain the wisdom needed to become a better man, not to learn how to pick up women.

Goodnite everyone

 

[John-467]

HAHAH...okay after those last couple responds, ME HAS TO LEAVE DIS CONVO >>> (EXIT) lol.

This guy said, lol, that his "intellect grows from being on here" dude you'll learn more in a Catholic Church okay lol.

All these guys talk about is feminists, how women will "get you," how you should watch out for this or that....lol if Hulk Hogan is an AFC or not (rolling on the floor laughing).

Okay, Okay, I'm sorry for disrespecting your "group" and I am officially gone.

PEACE!

 

[wjh]

this thread is funny as hell. its gone manic. its got everything; iqqi bashing; negs; intellectual discussion. what entertainment!

and i dont see any reason to bash john. he's just keepin it real. its refreshing.

everyone on here is correct. str8 is correct. keto is correct. even iqqi, altho she can't translate her ideas for sh!t bc of the woman lense she sees through. but we're all correct. we all raise good points. and thats the beauty of it. when someone raises something that you hadn't thought of and that which resonates within you. thats why i come here. plus its pretty damm funny.

what the hell does "he's just keepin it real" mean?

and what the hell is this crap about "we're all correct"? do you teach 3rd grade at a public school?

 

[ketostix]

John true question, are you the guy friend iqqi hooked up with last weekend? Or maybe you're some other associate of hers? I don't expect a truthful answer, but I had to ask. My BS radar went off.

Well I'm still suspicious and wondering why John dodged the question.

 

[ketostix]

this thread is funny as hell. its gone manic. its got everything; iqqi bashing; negs; intellectual discussion. what entertainment!

and i dont see any reason to bash john. he's just keepin it real. its refreshing.

everyone on here is correct. str8 is correct. keto is correct. even iqqi, altho she can't translate her ideas for sh!t bc of the woman lense she sees through. but we're all correct. we all raise good points. and thats the beauty of it. when someone raises something that you hadn't thought of and that which resonates within you. thats why i come here. plus its pretty damm funny.

Iqqi is not correct and neither is John IMO. They raised nothing new. I actually could predicted iqqi's responses before she made them.

 

[wjh]

Iqqi is not correct and neither is John IMO. They raised nothing new. I actually could predicted iqqi's responses before she made them.

Well, it's also illogical to think that "we're all correct" if we're making contradictory arguments.

A sphere can't be also be a cube.

 

[wjh]

keepin it real means hes just havin fun. hes just sayin hey. hes just givin you a nudge. i dont really know how to explain it.

Maybe you don't really know how to explain it because it's utter crap? It's an excuse to be an idiot.

we're all correct means....we're all correct. i made that comment in reference to the intellectual points being debated in this thread. we're all correct.

Oh, I see. So if I say something is X, and someone else says something is Y, but X and Y are contradictory, the contradiction is irrelevant. All that matters is that X and Y are expressed eloquently. That makes perfect sense, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[ketostix]

you got me :woo:

i understand what your saying in regards to the x and y thing. what im trying to say is that when your dealing with ppl, theres just so much variance. the fact that we all see things a particular way, it means that everything is unique, unique for that person and if you looked at things from that persons pov then they're correct. so im saying that, everyone is correct. and i agree with everything thats been said. even me being called an idiot. i can see how you might think that. women suck bcoz they operate from an entirely different frame, so nothing they say, is ever going to make sense. but i dont doubt that what they say is true. see where im going?.........most of the time tho, and i find it true of the guys on this forum, it is easy to see where ppl are coming from and easy to understand what is being said. i am on here to hear peoples thoughts and ideas and see what resonates within me. i hear what john has said and i know for a fact that he gets it. i also can see how him jumping in here can annoy guys that are on here debating. but so what. its ebb and flow. everyone raises a good point thats all im sayin and when you put it all together you come out more the wiser. you put pieces together that maybe you couldn't on your own and your better off for it. im rambling like a b1tch here but i love it when im thinkin about something or do something a particular way and then someone comes along and does it better or thinks about it in a better way and im like maaaaaan. i love that moment.

Swifty you have some valid points, human behavior especially female behavior does vary and is random, but there are things that are consistent too. Where I disagree with besides your assumption that John gets it is this:

women suck bcoz they operate from an entirely different frame, so nothing they say, is ever going to make sense. but i dont doubt that what they say is true. see where im going?

You shouldn't doubt what women do as being true but you should doubt what they say they do is true. This was the whole point of this thread and it was explained pretty convincingly why a woman's words aren't worth much. I don't see how any guy with any experience with women could not see women saying one thing and doing another, even doing t the exact opposite, over and over again. That's the different frame they operate from and is precisely why nothing they say is ever going to make sense.

 

[jonwon]

STR8UP, i respect you 100%, please understand this when i say this:

You still have some way to go, i think you need to put your ego aside on this matter, because to me your ideas on this subject, WILL CHANGE, trust me on this.

I know where your coming from, i too have been in the same place has you, but i have passed this hurdle.

Also Iqqi, is spot on in this thread.

I see a lot of bitter resentment towards her, when in fact she is giving 100% proof solid advice, i saddens me that people cant see and in that they need to flame her.

Trust me in this regard she is 100% correct.

And john, i love your posts, fuc* her mind body and soul should be my new sig, great posts, but i dont think some people can apprecciate what you just wrote, which is a shame.

Anyway, i dont want to get into any coc* fights on this subject, i know you cant change what people think unless they want to change, when competing with ego there are no winners and i can see 'ego' making alot of decissions in this thread.

I am done with this topic.

Remember the purpose of SS, is to bag women for the long haul or simply bag women, not to make a hate mission against them, granted some women fuc*ing do deserve it, but not all value men by what they can give financially, not all women marry the 'provider' guy, also being the 'provider' guy is the wrong place to be, when you can no longer 'provide' she will be looking for an 'out' and in this day and age, getting an out is very easy indeed and YOU will PAY FOR IT.

Listen, or suffer trying to conform to false hood, since thats all you are doing, your only keeping the pit of shi* full by beleiving in this to the 9th degree.

Alot of women are simply not like this.

Ladder Theory is correct, for all modern day western women, they has i stated can be sport fuc*ed, but dont be 'blind' to the fact NOT ALL women are like this.

I know this not from reading a book or MM or some other seduction cra*, i know this through LIFE experiance and there are many similier situations posted on SS that in this instance are being ignored?

Why ignore them? Its right there, staring you in the face, but you choose to ignore it, thats NOT MY PROBLEM, that my friend is yours, soon you will learn, i hope it comes fast, i hope it comes way fast, because i can see guys who walk around with this poison will only get shafted in the long haul, or have a high % to.

Like i said no offence, i am just posting my take on it, if it offends you, that was not the intention.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

*Starts singing*

"We're on the road to nowhere"