Why you should never take a woman's words at face value

[STR8UP]

jonwon,

The point isn't about spending money on women, it's about them desiring someone who has resources. I am definitely not the kind of person to 'purchase' a gold-digger. Having resources has an impact on attraction......You don't have to spend it on her for the attraction to exist.

This brings up an interesting point.

I am of the firm belief that it isn't necessarily wealth or resources that attract women, it is the core qualities that allow a man to ACQUIRE resources that women are most attracted to.

Women throw out sh!t tests to determine whether or not you are the real deal, or just a weak sissy boy putting up a front.

It's easy to get credit and PRETEND you are rich.

A woman in her late teens or early 20's might fukk you for a ride in your pimped out Corolla, but when they get a little older things change for most of them. It's the personality traits that get you laid moreso than the toys.

I've said it before......I do just as good if not better with women I meet who have never been to my place or seen my car or know what I do for a living. Now most women I meet are through friends, so it could have a lot to do with the fact that my FRIENDS talk me up before I meet a new woman, but it still goes back to the fact that a woman is more likely to believe something if she sees it INDIRECTLY. They are more likely to respond positively to the QUALITIES a wealthy man possesses or a recommendation from a third party than physical displays of wealth or the flaunting of those physical displays by the person who possesses them.

 

[STR8UP]

Jonwon said:

Men dont go out of there way to impress women with statements of wealth, chumps do that

To which Edger replied:

EXACTLY. I always say this.

Real men don't have to try to impress, because as I said before, women are attracted to the core qualities of a man who has access to resources moreso than the physical display of those resources.

You can borrow a BMW and rent a big house, but you can't borrow or rent confidence, ambition, industriousness, etc.

 

[STR8UP]

I see the debate here has now shifted from "women want a man who can provide for her" TO "it's not enough if a man can "provide" for her, he HAS to be a wealthy man with a mansion and 4 SUV's on top of that".

I honestly don't know where you get this stuff from.

I stick to my theory that some kind of external factor has corrupted your ability to see the obvious. Don't know if it was a rich guy stealing your g/f sometime in the past or what, but every time we talk about this you start going off on a bitter tangent about "mansions" and "SUV's". I don't get it.

 

[edger]

I honestly don't know where you get this stuff from.

I stick to my theory that some kind of external factor has corrupted your ability to see the obvious. Don't know if it was a rich guy stealing your g/f sometime in the past or what, but every time we talk about this you start going off on a bitter tangent about "mansions" and "SUV's". I don't get it.

Hahaha, whoaaaaa, I'm being bombarded again. This time it's only ONE of ya. Whew, don't need my bunker.

Str8ty, I'm pretty sure this thread does consist of posts where it's stated that, "Women want wealthy men".

 

[joekerr31]

Hahaha, whoaaaaa, I'm being bombarded again. This time it's only ONE of ya. Whew, don't need my bunker.

Str8ty, I'm pretty sure this thread does consist of posts where it's stated that, "Women want wealthy men".

it should be women want to MARRY wealthy men.

women will f*ck any man they find attractive.

 

[edger]

woman sees two men. Guy A is average across the board. Guy B is above average across the board. woman chooses Guy B.

Str8up, here ya go..this is just one example in this thread of what I was referring to.

 

[edger]

And Str8up, no, I've never had a chick leave me for a wealthy dude.

 

[edger]

it should be women want to MARRY wealthy men.

women will f*ck any man they find attractive.

There ya go Str8up, Joekerr even verified that the debate's gone from, "women want a man who can provide for her" TO "it's not enough if a man can "provide" for her, he HAS to be a wealthy man with a mansion and 4 SUV's on top of that".

 

[STR8UP]

it should be women want to MARRY wealthy men.

women will f*ck any man they find attractive.

Exactly!

Women seek a man with resources for a long term commitment, to stick by her side and help her raise children.

When she's just looking to get her groove on it's different. Then looks DO become more important. Actually, not necessarily "looks" but a guy who gets her motor running, usually through some combination of looks and attitude.

 

[edger]

it should be women want to MARRY wealthy men.

women will f*ck any man they find attractive.

When I said "want", I meant "marry".

 

[edger]

And Joekerr, it's one thing for a woman to want to marry a guy who can "provide" while she's pregnant and raising the kids(which I understand), but it's entirely another when she's just being a gold-digging, shallow b*tch who will not marry a guy unless he's wealthy with 4 SUV's and a mansion.

 

[edger]

Exactly!

Women seek a man with resources for a long term commitment, to stick by her side and help her raise children.

When she's just looking to get her groove on it's different. Then looks DO become more important. Actually, not necessarily "looks" but a guy who gets her motor running, usually through some combination of looks and attitude.

Ahh, ya see, you said it yourself..so what the f*ck are you getting on my case for?

 

[STR8UP]

There ya go Str8up, Joekerr even verified that the debate's gone from, "women want a man who can provide for her" TO "it's not enough if a man can "provide" for her, he HAS to be a wealthy man with a mansion and 4 SUV's on top of that".

I'm still not getting "mansions and SUV's" from any of the posts in this thread. I know I'm not the only one who sees that you are grasping for straws here.

Actually, you sound like a woman. No offense, but this is what women do. They CLAIM to have no interest in a man of means, so they get DEFENSIVE at even the slightest suggestion that they are in it for anything other than "true love", which they believe is BLIND. Bullsh!t.

The problem is that when people like you hear the words "wealth", "money", or "resources" you automatically think of a woman who has her hands in a guys pockets extracting wads of cash to buy stupid superfluous consumer garbage, but it's not that simple. A normal woman will factor in a man's ability to provide safety and security. this is not golddigging. This is a practical survival strategy.

You would have everyone believe that a woman who takes a man's ability to provide into account is an evil, vile human being who is out to suck the blood of an unsuspecting victim.

You have gone off on this crazy rant in other threads as well stating that a woman needs to be able to pay half of EVERYTHING to make it all fair, which is unrealistic and IMO just another mark on the feminist side of the chalkboard.

When you talk about crap like that what you are basically saying is that anyone who is wealthy should be denied access to women, because for every hundred wealthy men there are what, maybe five wealthy women?

Fact of the matter is, it's just the opposite. Politicians, CEO's, pro athletes, etc. have a wife at home and a different woman in every city they visit.

The world isn't fair, and I can't see much good coming from pretending that it should be something other than it is, but whatever works for you, more power to ya.

 

[edger]

Joekerr, based on your attitude about all that we're discussing in this thread, let me guess, you're in the "wealthy" category. It seems by a lot of people's attitudes here, that they're "wealthy" also. Hah, ya know, it's interesting how the wealthy guy's don't care about the gold-diggers, until the day they are no longer "wealthy", until the well goes dry. Then their attitudes on these same women change.

 

[STR8UP]

Ahh, ya see, you said it yourself..so what the f*ck are you getting on my case for?

I said what myself? Who is getting on someones case here?

Women have needs to fill that are generally not both found in the same man. Again, this is mating 101.

Women will PRIMARILY seek a man who has qualities consistent with someone with the capability to acquire resources for a long term commitment, someone she can count on to help her raise a family. She also has the need to seek out a SECOND man who can inseminate her with good genetic material.

That was the initial point of my thread. Women cannot be trusted. They seek out two DIFFERENT men to fulfill their biological needs. They have a great amount of incentive to protect their ability to secure BOTH types of men, and as such what they say and what they do are entirely different.

 

[STR8UP]

Joekerr, based on your attitude about all that we're discussing in this thread, let me guess, you're in the "wealthy" category. It seems by a lot of people's attitudes here, that they're "wealthy" also. Hah, ya know, it's interesting how the wealthy guy's don't care about the gold-diggers, until the day they are no longer "wealthy", until the well goes dry. Then their attitudes on these same women change.

Dude, you are BITTER. I don't know why, but you have a prejudice against people with money. Your argument is driven by this prejudice. GET OVER IT.

 

[edger]

I'm still not getting "mansions and SUV's" from any of the posts in this thread. I know I'm not the only one who sees that you are grasping for straws here.

Actually, you sound like a woman. No offense, but this is what women do. They CLAIM to have no interest in a man of means, so they get DEFENSIVE at even the slightest suggestion that they are in it for anything other than "true love", which they believe is BLIND. Bullsh!t.

The problem is that when people like you hear the words "wealth", "money", or "resources" you automatically think of a woman who has her hands in a guys pockets extracting wads of cash to buy stupid superfluous consumer garbage, but it's not that simple. A normal woman will factor in a man's ability to provide safety and security. this is not golddigging. This is a practical survival strategy.

You would have everyone believe that a woman who takes a man's ability to provide into account is an evil, vile human being who is out to suck the blood of an unsuspecting victim.

You have gone off on this crazy rant in other threads as well stating that a woman needs to be able to pay half of EVERYTHING to make it all fair, which is unrealistic and IMO just another mark on the feminist side of the chalkboard.

When you talk about crap like that what you are basically saying is that anyone who is wealthy should be denied access to women, because for every hundred wealthy men there are what, maybe five wealthy women?

Fact of the matter is, it's just the opposite. Politicians, CEO's, pro athletes, etc. have a wife at home and a different woman in every city they visit.

The world isn't fair, and I can't see much good coming from pretending that it should be something other than it is, but whatever works for you, more power to ya.

Str8up, are you retarded? No really, serious question, are you? For the 10th time this week dude, I've been telling you I have NO PROBLEM WITH, AND HOW IT MAKES SENSE A WOMAN WANTING TO MARRY A MAN WHO WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR HER IF SHE WANT'S KID'S AND IS PREGNANT. All I was talking about in this thread was gold-diggers. Jezzzus f*cking christ, you are a piece of work my friend, you're really AMAZING. I'm done with ya on this, I know I've said that before, but trust me, I'm done this time.


And another thing...JonWon seems to have the same stance as me, why don't you rant on to him? Of course it's better you don't though, cause look what I'm going through with you.

 

[edger]

Dude, you are BITTER. I don't know why, but you have a prejudice against people with money. Your argument is driven by this prejudice. GET OVER IT.

I'm bitter, ok, you happy?......whatever you say bro.

 

[edger]

Oh yeah, re-read Rollo's post too on how his wife chose him while he had no money, over 2 wealthy guys.

 

[iqqi]

Like I said before. If money is the numero uno most important factor to a woman, said woman is a gold digger. Plain and simple. Some people keep spurning looks matter threads, some people keep spurning money matters threads. Both these people have issues with the topics. STR8UP is not good looking, so he needs to believe that money might get him what he wants. It is going to get him a gold digger.

However this seems to be good for him, as he will atleast understand this type of woman.