Why it’s cheaper to pay a lady of the night, rather than waste your time and money trying to “pick up” women in bars and nightclubs.

[SW15]

I think the main issue is that they swallow this Red pill doodoo and it poisons their minds. Dating is not supposed to easy and it goes beyond looks and money.

This isn't a red pill thing. Plenty of men who possess the blue pill ideology pay directly for sex too.

 

[corrector]

Unless you are going to die tomorrow unless you have sex, why is it necessary to waste $500 plus on an escort?

I paid $60 in 2014. If I paid $500 I would be more tempted to.have sex to get my money's worth then to stare in space if she asks if I want to have sex.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This isn't a red pill thing. Plenty of men who possess the blue pill ideology pay directly for sex too.

both pills are stupid lol. Dont be like either.

 

[member160292]

I’m sure OP and most others have already made a decision to have their mindset. Being holier than thou, rah rah isn’t going to change their perspective.

OP I support you

 

[CornbreadFed]

I paid $60 in 2014. If I paid $500 I would be more tempted to.have sex to get my money's worth then to stare in space if she asks if I want to have sex.

lol

I’m sure OP and most others have already made a decision to have their mindset. Being holier than thou, rah rah isn’t going to change their perspective.

OP I support you

disgusting

 

[sangheilios]

Unless you are going to die tomorrow unless you have sex, why is it necessary to waste $500 plus on an escort? Yes, you might not get laid going to a club, your OLD date, spam approaching that tonight, but you are going to live at the very least. Nonetheless, unless you are rich af with money to blow, most young man have little good reasons to drop 500 plus on an escort. In addition, it’s illegal and even a felony in some parts of the US, so this just adds on to my point.




Let me guess, they had an excuse for when they were 30 and 20 right? Couldn’t compete with Chad in college in their 20s and too much hypergamy and careerist women in their 30s. Hit the 40s and now the dating pool has shrunk. Meanwhile, some dude in his 20s, 30s, or 40s has managed to be successful with women. Bottomline, you can either keep making excuses or start doing something.

No one is saying if you should or should not hire an escort lol. What the point of this thread was getting at is if your goal was to have sex, you'd be far better off hiring an escort than going out to hit up the club lol. When you factor in the time, money and energy what do you think would be more efficient? I'm not saying this is something a man should be doing. The point is that nightclub game isn't all that great and you'd have to invest a lot of your time and energy into this in order to achieve a one-night stand. There are obviously some exceptions, but for the vast majority of men they wouldn't be getting much from the experience.

It is illegal, but it's very easy to avoid getting into trouble. One, you don't just hire some random hooker off the street. Also, you don't just randomly show up to some incall location from some ad you saw online. This is how they typically set up sting operations, also would be a great way to set yourself to get robbed as well. You avoid all of these things by arranging an outcall appointment with an escort that has a profile, website, etc. that is clearly legitimate.

Who said anything about excuses? Some dudes are legitimately not in a set of circumstances where they can meet women readily. Most guys get into their career/working lives in their mid 20s. Some guy that is in the trades or engineering, both heavily male dominated fields, will have low access to women. A man in this position would basically find that his options are dating apps/OLD, nightlife game and random chance encounters in public if he does not have a social circle that can connect him with possible dating options. Again, this is a reality for many men and can easily lead to the months and years going by. Men like this will have to go out of their way and put in a lot of effort to better their chances of meeting women.

 

[BadBoy89]

No one is saying if you should or should not hire an escort lol. What the point of this thread was getting at is if your goal was to have sex, you'd be far better off hiring an escort than going out to hit up the club lol. When you factor in the time, money and energy what do you think would be more efficient? I'm not saying this is something a man should be doing. The point is that nightclub game isn't all that great and you'd have to invest a lot of your time and energy into this in order to achieve a one-night stand. There are obviously some exceptions, but for the vast majority of men they wouldn't be getting much from the experience.

It is illegal, but it's very easy to avoid getting into trouble. One, you don't just hire some random hooker off the street. Also, you don't just randomly show up to some incall location from some ad you saw online. This is how they typically set up sting operations, also would be a great way to set yourself to get robbed as well. You avoid all of these things by arranging an outcall appointment with an escort that has a profile, website, etc. that is clearly legitimate.

Who said anything about excuses? Some dudes are legitimately not in a set of circumstances where they can meet women readily. Most guys get into their career/working lives in their mid 20s. Some guy that is in the trades or engineering, both heavily male dominated fields, will have low access to women. A man in this position would basically find that his options are dating apps/OLD, nightlife game and random chance encounters in public if he does not have a social circle that can connect him with possible dating options. Again, this is a reality for many men and can easily lead to the months and years going by. Men like this will have to go out of their way and put in a lot of effort to better their chances of meeting women.

Good post.

Sosuave: “it’s anti seductive to go to a prostitute. Work on yourself and you will get the girl. That is very seductive.”

Man: “so if I work on myself, get in shape, dress well, make money, buy a car, nice apartment, get a haircut, be cultured, I’ll meet the girl?”

Sosuave: ‘No, we didn’t say that.”

Man: “Well then what?”

Sosuave: “Just work on yourself. Where you can meet a girl we don’t know or care about.”

 

[CornbreadFed]

No one is saying if you should or should not hire an escort lol. What the point of this thread was getting at is if your goal was to have sex, you'd be far better off hiring an escort than going out to hit up the club lol. When you factor in the time, money and energy what do you think would be more efficient? I'm not saying this is something a man should be doing. The point is that nightclub game isn't all that great and you'd have to invest a lot of your time and energy into this in order to achieve a one-night stand. There are obviously some exceptions, but for the vast majority of men they wouldn't be getting much from the experience.

I am anti night club game so I’m the wrong person to bring this up to. In fact, I’d rather screw escorts too than go to clubs and find women. I am pro other methods though.

It is illegal, but it's very easy to avoid getting into trouble. One, you don't just hire some random hooker off the street. Also, you don't just randomly show up to some incall location from some ad you saw online. This is how they typically set up sting operations, also would be a great way to set yourself to get robbed as well. You avoid all of these things by arranging an outcall appointment with an escort that has a profile, website, etc. that is clearly legitimate.

Regardless, all it takes is ONE time to get caught dude. You can get away with it 200 times, but if you get caught on your 201st time then none of it meant jack shvt.

Who said anything about excuses? Some dudes are legitimately not in a set of circumstances where they can meet women readily. Most guys get into their career/working lives in their mid 20s. Some guy that is in the trades or engineering, both heavily male dominated fields, will have low access to women. A man in this position would basically find that his options are dating apps/OLD, nightlife game and random chance encounters in public if he does not have a social circle that can connect him with possible dating options. Again, this is a reality for many men and can easily lead to the months and years going by. Men like this will have to go out of their way and put in a lot of effort to better their chances of meeting women.

Newsflash, dating isn’t easy and takes effort and work especially if you want a good looking woman. Idk really what to say because this just screams victim mindset and laziness.

 

[Stanley]

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[corrector]

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I think we call got tired of Picard.

 

[corrector]

It is illegal, but it's very easy to avoid getting into trouble. One, you don't just hire some random hooker off the street. Also, you don't just randomly show up to some incall location from some ad you saw online. This is how they typically set up sting operations, also would be a great way to set yourself to get robbed as well. You avoid all of these things by arranging an outcall appointment with an escort that has a profile, website, etc. that is clearly legitimate.

That's what they do in the USA? Canada ain't that bad.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I think we call got tired of Picard.

 

[sangheilios]

I am anti night club game so I’m the wrong person to bring this up to. In fact, I’d rather screw escorts too than go to clubs and find women. I am pro other methods though.



Regardless, all it takes is ONE time to get caught dude. You can get away with it 200 times, but if you get caught on your 201st time then none of it meant jack shvt.



Newsflash, dating isn’t easy and takes effort and work especially if you want a good looking woman. Idk really what to say because this just screams victim mindset and laziness.

Where are you reading this? I specifically stated that many men are in a set of circumstances that limits their ability to meet women. How is that a victim mindset or laziness? Are you telling me Mike the plumber, who works 5 days per week making good money in his trade job, is ****ing lazy or has a victim mindset because he says he struggles in the dating market? Mike could even go to the gym or play pick up games a couple days per week, eats reasonably well and actually has a couple buddies he hangs out with on the weekends. Mike likes fishing, playing cards, maybe goes ATVing, etc. Mike could go hit up the nightlife, but he isn't a big fan and doesn't really have the time or energy for that, staying up late would kill his productivity at work. Mike could use tinder but that she sucks and has a very low success rate for men.

I don't understand you trolls on here that don't seem to grasp this ****. Most men that are single and not having the success they want in the dating market don't have a victim mindset and aren't lazy. To repeat myself yet again, most men are in a set of circumstances that makes meeting single and available women difficult, an issue that will also progressively worsen as the years go by.

 

[corrector]

Where are you reading this? I specifically stated that many men are in a set of circumstances that limits their ability to meet women. How is that a victim mindset or laziness? Are you telling me Mike the plumber, who works 5 days per week making good money in his trade job, is ****ing lazy or has a victim mindset because he says he struggles in the dating market? Mike could even go to the gym or play pick up games a couple days per week, eats reasonably well and actually has a couple buddies he hangs out with on the weekends. Mike likes fishing, playing cards, maybe goes ATVing, etc. Mike could go hit up the nightlife, but he isn't a big fan and doesn't really have the time or energy for that, staying up late would kill his productivity at work. Mike could use tinder but that she sucks and has a very low success rate for men.

I don't understand you trolls on here that don't seem to grasp this ****. Most men that are single and not having the success they want in the dating market don't have a victim mindset and aren't lazy. To repeat myself yet again, most men are in a set of circumstances that makes meeting single and available women difficult, an issue that will also progressively worsen as the years go by.

Exactly.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Where are you reading this? I specifically stated that many men are in a set of circumstances that limits their ability to meet women. How is that a victim mindset or laziness? Are you telling me Mike the plumber, who works 5 days per week making good money in his trade job, is ****ing lazy or has a victim mindset because he says he struggles in the dating market? Mike could even go to the gym or play pick up games a couple days per week, eats reasonably well and actually has a couple buddies he hangs out with on the weekends. Mike likes fishing, playing cards, maybe goes ATVing, etc. Mike could go hit up the nightlife, but he isn't a big fan and doesn't really have the time or energy for that, staying up late would kill his productivity at work. Mike could use tinder but that she sucks and has a very low success rate for men.

MIke isn’t struggling in the dating market, he’s just upset that women aren’t lining up to suck his dvck like he’s the only guy on earth right now. Instead of understanding that dating is competitive and he is not the right fit for every single girl that crosses him, he chooses to go black pill and cry when a few women turn him down. Dating is hard, dating sucks, doing all of the shvt we advise y’all to just makes it more easier for men not a cheat code.

I don't understand you trolls on here that don't seem to grasp this ****. Most men that are single and not having the success they want in the dating market don't have a victim mindset and aren't lazy. To repeat myself yet again, most men are in a set of circumstances that makes meeting single and available women difficult, an issue that will also progressively worsen as the years go by.

If success is having a 90% close rate with women then you might as well just put your escort girl on speed dial because that is completely unreasonable. The fact is that the black pill consists of a bunch weak minded men that cannot handle having their egos bruised by females that don’t find them attractive. 1). Accept that dating is hard and competitive. 2). Drop the Fantasy Forever Red Pill bachelor shvt and spin plates to find you a perfect mate to date, not to add to rotation.

 

[sangheilios]

MIke isn’t struggling in the dating market, he’s just upset that women aren’t lining up to suck his dvck like he’s the only guy on earth right now. Instead of understanding that dating is competitive and he is not the right fit for every single girl that crosses him, he chooses to go black pill and cry when a few women turn him down. Dating is hard, dating sucks, doing all of the shvt we advise y’all to just makes it more easier for men not a cheat code.



If success is having a 90% close rate with women then you might as well just put your escort girl on speed dial because that is completely unreasonable. The fact is that the black pill consists of a bunch weak minded men that cannot handle having their egos bruised by females that don’t find them attractive. 1). Accept that dating is hard and competitive. 2). Drop the Fantasy Forever Red Pill bachelor shvt and spin plates to find you a perfect mate to date, not to add to rotation.

Where did I say anything about the blackpill?

 

[corrector]

Where did I say anything about the blackpill?

You dont have to mention something if you are bring up their talking points and mindset. Why would you distance yourself from that?

 

[sangheilios]

You dont have to mention something if you are bring up their talking points and mindset. Why would you distance yourself from that?

Do you and that other guy have reading comprehension issues or are you being possessed right now?

 

[characternote]

I don't see the issue. It's not really for me, but there's nothing wrong with it

'Working on yourself' and reading 'game' books isn't going to drastically change the hotness of the girls you can get much, if at all. You can't negotiate attraction. The very best PUA's with the best game there is still get rejected a huge percentage of the time. It's a grind.

If someone has a strong desire for a super super hot 18 year old girls and they can afford it and obviously don't want to approach 1000 girls before they find one who likes him back, I have nothing against someone just using Russian escorts and sugar babes or whatever.

Again, not really for me although i've done it once.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Where did I say anything about the blackpill?

Your stance quacks black pill so I’m calling a duck a duck.