Why it’s cheaper to pay a lady of the night, rather than waste your time and money trying to “pick up” women in bars and nightclubs.

[corrector]

You are basically having sex with a sex doll with cigarette breath.

He was rejected by a prostitute in the past because she thought he wasn't white, but went back to the same prostitute a second time and then he passed enough to be white for her to service him. Sex-dolls don't reject people. Apples and Oranges analogy.

 

[Smok1nAce]

If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.

Thats cause most men waste time to tying to game women (convince them to sleep with them) instead of letting the chips fall where they fall.

Most dudes think if they go a month without busting a nut their is something wrong with them and they should be sleeping with mutiple women every month or else.

Yes if you goal is just to bust a nut, paying for it is much cheaper in the long run and might even add years onto you life with the stress gone from "gaming". But if a women genuinely likes you its much cheaper to date her.

 

[CornbreadFed]

He was rejected by a prostitute in the past because she thought he wasn't white, but went back to the same prostitute a second time and then he passed enough to be white for her to service him. Sex-dolls don't reject people. Apples and Oranges analogy.

Doesn’t change the fact that sex with a prostitute is like fvcking a sex doll with cigarette breath lol

 

[corrector]

Doesn’t change the fact that sex with a prostitute is like fvcking a sex doll with cigarette breath lol

Okay, for the record, when I visited an escort in both Dec 4 & Dec 5, 2014, none of those two escorts had any cigarette breath smell. If they did, I likely would have been put-off and ran the heck out of there. The second one had a strong perfume smell that stayed in the system for about a week. Therefore, what you are saying is not true from my own experience. In fact, the first escort visited, we danced around to her Spanish music and she was nude and there was more of a focus on connection, in fact I refused her offer of sex (she asked me if I wanted to fvck her to my face and I was taken aback by that question and just stared at her). The point is, you get nice female attention and it hits the spot where you are not critically evaluated on your worthiness beyond spending the coin.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Doesn’t change the fact that sex with a prostitute is like fvcking a sex doll with cigarette breath lol

D@mn, bro. If you are talking out of experience, you need to find some better prostitutes. If you arent talking out of experience, you are pretty much trolling.

 

[BeExcellent]

I know the type. He´s possibly riding around on some high horse proudly stating "I have never paid for poon in my life" or some variant of that. Your friend may have some legit game but he sounds like a judgemental little b1tch. Edit: There a lot on stuff here in SoSuave I dont agree with, but I try not to judge others.

Im a Physics teacher. Some students struggle on class; some fail, some cheat. Does that mean they are sad sorts who couldnt find their way out of a paper bag? Nah, it just means they havent put in the time and effort to get better at Physics.

Funny. You say you don’t judge. Right after you yourself make a judgement about my friend, who you do not know, who loves women, and who is anything but a “little b itch”.

Logic much?

 

[DonJuanjr]

(she asked me if I wanted to fvck her to my face and I was taken aback by that question and just stared at her).

Why would you be surprised at a prostitute saying this? I'm starting to wonder if you're on the spectrum, and you don't know it.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Funny. You say you don’t judge. Right after you yourself make a judgement about my friend, who you do not know, who loves women, and who is anything but a “little b itch”.

Logic much?

He judges people who pay for poon. I make an observation that he is judgemental and making that observation makes me judgemental? No, I dont get your logic.

Edit: Even if I had judged him, I didnt say I dont judge. I said I try not to judge. I did not say your friend is a little b1tch, Im aware I dont know him. I only know what you speak of him. Saying someone "Is a little b1tch" and saying someone "sounds like a judgemental little b1cth" is a small but very important difference. And then you want to talk to @pipeman84 about reading comprehension.

 

[lgbs2004]

Doesn’t change the fact that sex with a prostitute is like fvcking a sex doll with cigarette breath lol

This scenario is true only in the case of cheap, street prostitutes.

There are escort websites with hot women, but they are expensive!

This is an example of this type of site: https://mclass.com/

But like I said, these are expensive!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It's also easier to sit around, play video games, smoke weed and become an obese tub of lard eating junk food all day than it is to make something of yourself, eat healthy, work out and stay in shape.

Why don't you advocate for that also?

Things that are worthwhile aren't easy nor were they meant to be.

Not on board with the loser mentality of this thread.

 

[CornbreadFed]

If y’all have the time and money to invest in all of these expensive escorts then y’all have the time and money to invest in bettering yourself. Idk how much they are, but $500 can get you 2-3 months at least at a nice gym with decent equipment and programs or a PT. $500 can get you some relatively nice clothes or a shoes. If you can’t take a year off pvssy to get your shvt together for the better then you are a weak man period.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Most dudes think if they go a month without busting a nut there is something wrong with them.

Crap I had it all wrong I thought it was if I went one day without…

 

[DonJuanjr]

If you can’t take a year off pvssy to get your shvt together for the better then you are a weak man period.

Taking a year off isn't even needed. Just lower standards while improving.

 

[corrector]

Why would you be surprised at a prostitute saying this? I'm starting to wonder if you're on the spectrum, and you don't know it.

You know what my religion is and what my values are. That doesn't change because I technically hire a prostitute. Who I am and what I believe does not switch on or off. Either way, it doesn't matter. The point is it was a pleasant experience with the first one, and I would not categorize real women, civvies or prostitutes as a sex doll. The point is you want female attention, connection, someone who sees you and is interacting with you and that's something that makes that different from any sex-doll, porn, OF, or whatever. People who categorize this as some form of glorified masturbation or sex-doll just don't get it.

Despite my religion, my intentions were pure, and I just wanted a connection with someone.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

 

[Dr.Suave]

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I feel you bro. This is also my reaction more and more frequently these days.

 

[sangheilios]

If y’all have the time and money to invest in all of these expensive escorts then y’all have the time and money to invest in bettering yourself. Idk how much they are, but $500 can get you 2-3 months at least at a nice gym with decent equipment and programs or a PT. $500 can get you some relatively nice clothes or a shoes. If you can’t take a year off pvssy to get your shvt together for the better then you are a weak man period.

I honestly agree with you but you are missing a bit of context in regards to what this thread was originally discussing.

IF your goal was to have sex within a short span of time, later that night or tomorrow, paying for an escort is the most efficient means of doing so. Sure, you could go hit up the club and spam approach women, but you still have to go OUT of your way for something that has no guaranteed chance of success. You also are still paying cover charges, buying drinks, etc.

Age is another factor here as well. The OP that made this post was in his 50s, hate to break it to the posters on here but a man in this age range is not going to show up to a club, filled with women in their early to mid 20s, and be pulling left and right lol. If I was in this age range AND wanted to just go clap some cheeks paying for an escort is the best option.

Most guys that do not have the sex lives they desire are not some monstrosities that are obese, have poor hygiene, etc. Most of the men in this category are otherwise normal men that are just in a set of circumstances that have resulted in them having a poor sex life. Most guys that are closing in on 40 or past this that are single are not going out slaying. This is not necessarily due to them having bad game but due to circumstances they can't control. Most women in their realistic dating age range are going to be married or in serious relationships. Those that are still single may not even be what these men are looking for at all. A large number of single women in this realistic dating age range will be single mothers, which comes with a huge array of dating issues.

For younger guys, a lot of this is related to just not having access to women that are potentially available. A lot of this is heavily related to having a social life that does not expose them to women at all and perhaps working in male dominated environments. Dating apps and online dating are trash and have also made the broader dating market problematic for young men. Most of these guys that are struggling in the dating market are not going to find that things magically improve because they invested in a new wardrobe or started going to the gym. Most of these guys are otherwise normal individuals who dress decently and are of a normal/healthy weight, they aren't wearing soiled clothes, have poor hygiene or incredibly overweight lol.

Way too many that assume there is something wrong with men who aren't experiencing success when a lot of is related to external factors beyond their control.

 

[CornbreadFed]

IF your goal was to have sex within a short span of time, later that night or tomorrow, paying for an escort is the most efficient means of doing so. Sure, you could go hit up the club and spam approach women, but you still have to go OUT of your way for something that has no guaranteed chance of success. You also are still paying cover charges, buying drinks, etc.

Unless you are going to die tomorrow unless you have sex, why is it necessary to waste $500 plus on an escort? Yes, you might not get laid going to a club, your OLD date, spam approaching that tonight, but you are going to live at the very least. Nonetheless, unless you are rich af with money to blow, most young man have little good reasons to drop 500 plus on an escort. In addition, it’s illegal and even a felony in some parts of the US, so this just adds on to my point.

Most guys that do not have the sex lives they desire are not some monstrosities that are obese, have poor hygiene, etc. Most of the men in this category are otherwise normal men that are just in a set of circumstances that have resulted in them having a poor sex life. Most guys that are closing in on 40 or past this that are single are not going out slaying. This is not necessarily due to them having bad game but due to circumstances they can't control. Most women in their realistic dating age range are going to be married or in serious relationships. Those that are still single may not even be what these men are looking for at all. A large number of single women in this realistic dating age range will be single mothers, which comes with a huge array of dating issues.

Let me guess, they had an excuse for when they were 30 and 20 right? Couldn’t compete with Chad in college in their 20s and too much hypergamy and careerist women in their 30s. Hit the 40s and now the dating pool has shrunk. Meanwhile, some dude in his 20s, 30s, or 40s has managed to be successful with women. Bottomline, you can either keep making excuses or start doing something.

 

[SW15]

I honestly agree with you but you are missing a bit of context in regards to what this thread was originally discussing.

Yes, context is important.

Age is another factor here. The OP that made this post was in his 50s, hate to break it to the posters on here but a man in this age range is not going to show up to a club, filled with women in their early to mid 20s, and be pulling left and right lol. If I was in this age range AND wanted to just go clap some cheeks paying for an escort is the best option.

It's also true that most 50-65 year old men do not have the energy to go to nightlife venues and approach if they are unattached.

Most guys that do not have the sex lives they desire are not some monstrosities that are obese, have poor hygiene, etc. Most of the men in this category are otherwise normal men that are just in a set of circumstances that have resulted in them having a poor sex life. Most guys that are closing in on 40 or past this that are single are not going out slaying. This is not necessarily due to them having bad game but due to circumstances they can't control. Most women in their realistic dating age range are going to be married or in serious relationships. Those that are still single may not even be what these men are looking for at all. A large number of single women in this realistic dating age range will be single mothers, which comes with a huge array of dating issues.

You continue to make good points.

A lot of men who pay directly for sex as either sugar daddies on websites like Seeking or pay escorts are not monstrosities.

You talk about men closing in on 40. I am a late 30s guy. I will explain what options are there for men 35-49.

Most men 35-49 who are childless don't have social circle options. Their social connections are usually married and usually married with children. There are some divorced guys in this age range, but they are typically single fathers and childless men won't typically have much in common with a single father who was previously married 10+ years.

It can get lonely for childless men age 35+. That's part of why I have the lone wolf avatar in my profile.

Nightlife is a little bit more difficult for childless men 35-49 years old. They don't have good wingmen available in a lot of cases.

Daygame is a legitimate for the 35-49 childless man. Daygame is a difficult path. I have talked about this on other threads. Daygame is the path I chose.

Conventional online dating (sending DMs and using swipe apps) is possibly the worst option out there.

For the childless man 35-49, you make a great point about single moms in that realistic dating range.

For younger guys, a lot of this is related to just not having access to women that are potentially available. A lot of this is heavily related to having a social life that does not expose them to women at all and perhaps working in male dominated environments. Dating apps and online dating are trash and have also made the broader dating market problematic for young men. Most of these guys that are struggling in the dating market are not going to find that things magically improve because they invested in a new wardrobe or started going to the gym. Most of these guys are otherwise normal individuals who dress decently and are of a normal/healthy weight, they aren't wearing soiled clothes, have poor hygiene or incredibly overweight lol.

Way too many that assume there is something wrong with men who aren't experiencing success when a lot of is related to external factors beyond their control.

All valid points.

Let me guess, they had an excuse for when they were 30 and 20 right? Couldn’t compete with Chad in college in their 20s and too much hypergamy and careerist women in their 30s. Hit the 40s and now the dating pool has shrunk. Meanwhile, some dude in his 20s, 30s, or 40s has managed to be successful with women. Bottomline, you can either keep making excuses or start doing something.

These aren't necessarily excuses. Some guys do take action and still have issues. While I do favor taking constructive actions, there are men that do continuously struggle despite self-improvement efforts. We even had a recent thread about this.

The issue with telling men to work on self improvement

I've been seeing an interesting trend with mainstream media and youtube, where there is a lot of content recently discussing the issues that young men are experiencing with the modern dating market. There was one piece on CNN saying that over 60% of men were single while around 1/3 women were in...

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[CornbreadFed]

These aren't necessarily excuses. Some guys do take action and still have issues. While I do favor taking constructive actions, there are men that do continuously struggle despite self-improvement efforts. We even had a recent thread about this.

I think the main issue is that they swallow this Red pill doodoo and it poisons their minds. Dating is not supposed to easy and it goes beyond looks and money.