Why do some very attractive women go for average guys their entire life?

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I saw the Seinfeld episode today where Elaine sums this up nicely. She says "The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian, it's for getting around, it's like a Jeep. It's hideous - the hair, the lumpiness, it's simian." This largely matches what I've always said. The female body is designed to be attractive. A man's body is designed for action - power and strength to get things done.

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Julia Louis Dreyfus taking anyone to task for over being hairy is tantamount to Kathy Bush providing child rearing classes
 

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Julia Louis Dreyfus taking anyone to task for over being hairy is tantamount to Kathy Bush providing child rearing classes
I wouldn't know about that, but I would guess Larry David actually wrote those words.
 

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Then accept that you will be alone and not have female companionship in your life. It is that simple. You are ruled by irrational fears and excuses.
Umm, I've had free sex with 9 different partners. I've also been on dates that didn't lead to sex (the point is I've been able to get dates)
 

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I saw the Seinfeld episode today where Elaine sums this up nicely. She says "The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian, it's for getting around, it's like a Jeep. It's hideous - the hair, the lumpiness, it's simian." This largely matches what I've always said. The female body is designed to be attractive. A man's body is designed for action - power and strength to get things done.

The Seinfeld clip:
What about a football player with good looks who waxes his body hair?

He has the trifecta: Strength, looks, and power.

Power/strength doesn't have to come at the expense of looks.
 

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What about a football player with good looks who waxes his body hair?

He has the trifecta: Strength, looks, and power.

Power/strength doesn't have to come at the expense of looks.
As a man, I am impressed by his fitness level, and what he can do with that strength and power. Obviously I don't get any sexual attraction vibes from it, maybe a woman would. Would it be pure aesthetics though, or would they be attracted to what he could do for her (provide and protect, open pickle jars, etc.)? Would the visual effect be as powerful as the visual of an attractive naked woman on a man?
 

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It's weird because my sister is not that attractive (maybe a 4-5/10) but she expects to date a very good looking guy, yet her friend is closer to an 8/10 and is ok with dating an ugly guy. This even happened to two of her other friends who are 8/10 - they're dating ugly guys.
Because hot girls realize that dating a high value guy that has every second of his day scheduled and also require that his GF lives up to this requirements makes it both demanding and exhausting for chicks to date such a man, they realize this. Most chicks will however never to this because of their silly standards and that they all 10's (when they are just 4-5s).Hot girls do (not all, but some) do know this and act upon it just like BackInTheGame78 said, quote:
Different women value different things.
 

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As a man, I am impressed by his fitness level, and what he can do with that strength and power. Obviously I don't get any sexual attraction vibes from it, maybe a woman would. Would it be pure aesthetics though, or would they be attracted to what he could do for her (provide and protect, open pickle jars, etc.)? Would the visual effect be as powerful as the visual of an attractive naked woman on a man?
Since, just like you, I'm not into men, I couldn't say with 100% certainty (as far as the visual effects).

My guess is a woman is attracted to a combination of his looks as well as what he could do for her.
 

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My guess is a woman is attracted to a combination of his looks as well as what he could do for her.
That's why women get turned on when a man rolls up his sleeves exposing his muscular arms... :cool:
 

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You know as I've spent more and more time around women and even now living with a couple of them (I don't **** where I eat) as I've recently rented out some of my empty space since the market here is insane, thought maybe I'd get $600 a room, now booking at $1300, like bruh Im still in shock people will pay this.

I just told them I was another roommate renting at first and they definitely treated me that way, I only told them I owned it once the first month had passed and they treated me totally differently but I definitely wanted to feel on what the difference was.

think even the looks are too accessible to women, the GPS dating apps are what they are these days, I think it's all about money or parallel money, generational, mommy and daddy... I've definitely been targeted before but I didn't get attention like that at that time or even now, like you get hit on but it's weird when like I let 3 or 4 long lapses in the conversation happen because I'm not interested and she's just pushing through all of it unimpeded.

Women aren't under the same terms and conditions men are, so why they do things especially life choices, we have to kind of channel our understanding of these things through these predefined concepts like Masculinity, Money, Player, Incel, Sigma, Alpha, Beta... But the reality is the governing behind her reasoning of picking an ugly dude might not have anything to do with any of these things, we really just don't know because we don't have the 1:1 inbetween sexes and to be fair we don't have a 1:1 between other men for the most part except those predefined concepts
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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You know as I've spent more and more time around women and even now living with a couple of them (I don't **** where I eat) as I've recently rented out some of my empty space since the market here is insane, thought maybe I'd get $600 a room, now booking at $1300, like bruh Im still in shock people will pay this.

I just told them I was another roommate renting at first and they definitely treated me that way, I only told them I owned it once the first month had passed and they treated me totally differently but I definitely wanted to feel on what the difference was.

think even the looks are too accessible to women, the GPS dating apps are what they are these days, I think it's all about money or parallel money, generational, mommy and daddy... I've definitely been targeted before but I didn't get attention like that at that time or even now, like you get hit on but it's weird when like I let 3 or 4 long lapses in the conversation happen because I'm not interested and she's just pushing through all of it unimpeded.

Women aren't under the same terms and conditions men are, so why they do things especially life choices, we have to kind of channel our understanding of these things through these predefined concepts like Masculinity, Money, Player, Incel, Sigma, Alpha, Beta... But the reality is the governing behind her reasoning of picking an ugly dude might not have anything to do with any of these things, we really just don't know because we don't have the 1:1 inbetween sexes and to be fair we don't have a 1:1 between other men for the most part except those predefined concepts
My parents are wealthy (and a decent amount of women know it). It hasn't helped me much.
 

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My parents are wealthy (and a decent amount of women know it). It hasn't helped me much.
Once her quality of life is met that is all she knows until she gets a taste and appetite for something more; traditionally a man could act as a gateway in social circles for women, even if all he ended up being was a platform to monkey branch from but now with social media she can just network quickly and totally phase you out if she makes a connection.

So you need to be actively exposing them to it, social status comes onto impression
 

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There are many couples where the woman secure an ugly man just because she can be more secure He won't cheat on her, since he have low chances with other women.
 

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Once her quality of life is met that is all she knows until she gets a taste and appetite for something more; traditionally a man could act as a gateway in social circles for women, even if all he ended up being was a platform to monkey branch from but now with social media she can just network quickly and totally phase you out if she makes a connection.

So you need to be actively exposing them to it, social status comes onto impression
Funny thing is a woman I dated back in 2013 was constantly paranoid I'd find a better girlfriend online.

Obviously it's a lot easier for a woman to shop around for a "better" option online. But apparently some broads are afraid of a man doing the same thing.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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