Why are women exempt from consequences?

[Burroughs]

burr is a genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km6yaGS0leE&feature=related

when it comes to 'anger' its the hail mary...knock it down!

 

[Greasy Pig]

^^ favourited. Awesome.

 

[wait_out]

Btw I had a friend that was falsely accused of sexual harassment in the workplace and lost his teaching job all because some woman was jealous of him and the relationship he had with his students. So she makes some sh1t up and he loses his job without any investigation and she gets his position. A few months later, he kills himself.

You don't see me generalizing women based on some random woman.

What happened to this one specific woman who knew your friend carnivale? IE, if it could be proven she had lied in order to remove him from his position, what consequences did she recieve for her actions?

 

[carnivale2052]

What happened to this one specific woman who knew your friend carnivale? IE, if it could be proven she had lied in order to remove him from his position, what consequences did she recieve for her actions?

From what I know they just took her word over his and she got his job since it was her word against his. She was threatening to take it to court or whatever, the school wanted nothing to do with it.

I'm not some feminist. I know there are bad women out there. But like I said, for that one woman that did that to him, much more women came to his defense at the school, female friends of his and so on. I didn't hear one woman that defended her and no one believed her, the students or anyone. It sounds like from what I know they just let him go to avoid bad publicity for the school. She wasn't even attractive or anything, just some power hungry older woman.

 

[carnivale2052]

It happens but it would be like a white person badmouthing and generalizing black people just because of the gangbangers that make the news and make up a small majority of the black population.

There are tons of injustices in the world but to me the women cynicism goes too far on here. Good to know that they aren't these innocent creatures that Hollywood portrays them to be and that there are some to be avoided altogether but bitterness isn't going to help.

I also notice that the men I've known over the years who've done the best with women have a positive attitude and outlook on life and women and just avoid the bad ones.

 

[wait_out]

That's kind of a sad story Carnivale. Unfortunately, the women sympathizing with your friend weren't the ones who had enough power to change the situation.

 

[carnivale2052]

I was talking about it with my dad last night and he said that the accusation was that he went overboard. He was the kind of guy that would give innocuous hugs and kisses on the cheek, didn't matter who the woman was or what she looked like or how old she was. This lady probably used that to her advantage and just made up the rest.

The fact that he couldn't deny hugging her and kissing her on the cheek meant that it was her word against his as to what happened. I just know that he wouldn't risk his job over a cheap feel or whatever he was accused of, especially with the woman in question, just some ugly middle aged woman. He wasn't exactly struggling for women.

To kill yourself, there's more to the story. But that's certainly what sent him on a downhill spiral.

 

[wait_out]

Carnivale, it's a little ironic that you picked a fight with the entire forum, then went on to prove the premise of the OPs thread more effectively than all the other posters combined. I understand you're arguing for perspective when it comes to women, but that's pretty familiar ground here. Inciting a 3-page flame war isn't a very good way of passing on your points, though I'm sure all those involved had the chance to feel great indignation and enjoy themselves immensely. Anyways....

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt this site supposed to be a forum on how to better be an alpha male/suave/pick up women?

Yes

So that being said... then why does it seem like a place where womenless losers can ***** and whine and blame women for all there frustrations about not being able to get a women or why they have suckass jobs?

Beats me

If you want proper advice on how to better be an alpha male/suave/pick up women, then I am your man!!! because I AM a success story! i would even prove it by giving you my facebook page

LOL, no need for the FB page, but lay down your wisdom here. Since you've elected to come down from your pedestal to enlighten us poor unfortunate masses

 

[carnivale2052]

Waitout, like I said and the reason I brought it up in the first place is because there are plenty of isolated cases and that's no reason to generalize which is what this site does and what this post is doing. The OP proved with his response that he is nothing more than a sexist idiot:

"Why should the alpha content himself with the knowledge that women get wet around him and let him fvck them in the azz alone?

Why don't alpha men have an OPEN, KINGLY PLACE IN THE SOCIETY HE BUILT?!

Now why the fvck should that be tolerated. men built the world, science, art, everything...and now that we live in a society of relative ease the builders are vilified?!....nonsense!"


Never mind the fact that the OP is not an alpha male like the guys on this site aren't, what does any of this have to do with anything besides misogyny and sexism?

He probably ironically lives in his mother's basement.

No one likes a feminazi, myself included, that's what this site sounds like to the outsider, just the opposite extreme.

The site has the right to exist, but when you have such extreme inane views, expect a visitor from time to time that lets you know how idiotic you are.

Guys that get laid or are in a happy relationship aren't bitter about women, plain and simple.

But I'm out. It would be like trying to change the minds of racists. I just fear for guys that find this site because they're upset about being a virgin or having some unrequited crush, next thing you know they read this sh1t and believe it.

 

[wait_out]

Oh come on. Maybe they just need a hug... at $10-20 for three minutes, lol

It's a big bad world out there. I'm not disagreeing with your analysis of the admittedly whiny manosphere... but the whining, sour grapes etc. is more of a coping mechanism for guys who need an outlet. Like you said, happy guys don't complain as much. So maybe you should be shining a light to a better dating life for the hapless, instead of cursing the darkness? You're not going to help anyone in your ivory tower.

SS is not the origin of misogyny, people get frustrated in real life and then look online for explanations. I learned about this site in the great epidemic of everyone dating women with BPD tendencies back in 2008-2009. I remember getting chased down the street at night by my psycho girlfriend BEFORE I went looking online for answers. I wasn't poking around on the net first. PUA sites, blogs etc. might supply a narrative but the emotional need FOR a narrative didn't evolve FROM reading blogs and such. It comes from the raw emotional side of real life, ie. rejection, separation, divorce trauma, whatever. You aren't going to change minds because you're confusing cause and effect, and that's why nobody is taking you very seriously.

Avoid the knee-jerk reaction, and think about what provokes these threads instead... any poster around here is pretty much inured to any ridiculous anti-woman post. Haven't you ever felt like calling a woman a b!tch, even when you knew it was just because she wasn't doing what you wanted? Nobody's going to get upset someone was called a b!tch because everyone already understands the mechanism underneath, and in general the guys here look out for each other (because in general, women don't).

If you had a friend who went through a ugly breakup, then wrote a blog post about "how all men are pigs!", and then some stranger showed up to contest her viewpoint and call her names... would that stranger be noble and enlightened, or merely misguided and irritating? Misogyny is wrong but still, get off your high horse mate. I'm not saying that to you out of hostility.

 

[carnivale2052]

I have no problem with anything you just said. And I realize that when a lot of these posts are made, it comes from being hurt by women. But if the goal is to be an all-around better person and someone that attracts women, every guy I know that does really well with women has a positive outlook on life and women. They don't think women sh1t ice cream, but they don't let a random bad woman get the best of them or push them to the point where a lot of guys on this site are.

You can be on the lookout so to speak and aware that there are bad women out there without the sweeping generalizations.

When I was on facebook, there was a girl I was friends with on there that would have these status updates making generalizations about men or bashing men and both her men and women friends would be like "wtf?" Positive people like other positive people. When you're negative, you're going to attract other negative people.

 

[betheman]

That's kind of a sad story Carnivale. Unfortunately, the women sympathizing with your friend weren't the ones who had enough power to change the situation.

they did, they could have made a stand, they chose not to

 

[carnivale2052]

Betherman, how do you know what they did? Oh that's right, you're assuming and generalizing.

Danger, when you see thread topics like "Women who purposely sabotage their looks" it makes the misogyny stand out.

That's the scary thing about this site. At least racists say "I hate black people" or "I hate white people" or whoever they hate. This site just outright denies the misogyny. Wanting to sleep with women and finding them physically attractive doesn't mean you respect them.

The OP is just butthurt that the women he wants won't sleep with him and date him and decides to project his feelings onto women. He proved his sexism in his follow-up post that I quoted.

And you guys are defending the OP, which makes you just as accountable as him.

 

[carnivale2052]

"Respect a few," only a few? thanks for making my point. You're making it really easy, man.

And no one has addressed my points other than BrainSick and WaitOut.

Anyway, I have better things to do with my day than argue with some guy from a cult. Good luck with the marriage. That's going to last with your attitude lol.

I bet she doesn't even know what she's getting into.

Man, you guys make this REALLY easy. Keep posting and shoot yourselves in the feet more. It's bringing a lot of entertainment to the un-brainwashed.

 

[carnivale2052]

I don't expect any of what I said to be addressed. Brainsick and Waitout have been the only ones that have actually acknowledged anything I said:

"I'm no feminist but I'd like to see you have a child in your stomach for 9 months and go into labor.

I'm guessing you don't get along well with your mother either.

True alpha males aren't on a women hating PUA site. Do you think James Dean, Frank Sinatra, Sean Connery would be on here?

Notice how nothing positive is allowed on this site? If there are any "I met a great girl" messages they're followed up by other members saying "Wait until she cheats on you with some badboy."

It's all negative and has nothing to do with improving yourself.

life goes on regardless of this site. Most guys manage to find gfs or wives that don't cheat and respect them, guys that aren't at all cool looking or whatever. Why is it that the guys on here are the exception?"

None of this has been addressed nor will it. I was just called a troll, a white knight, a feminist, and a fat woman just for having a differing viewpoint.

I've also acknowledged many times that there are bad women out there and it's good to be aware of that. They can be easily avoided though. As much as I liked my friend, he should have been smarter than to hug and kiss women on the cheek at the workplace.

I fully acknowledge - and something that this site seems to envy - that women have pvssy power. Women are sex symbols, most men aren't - at least physical appearance wise. Get over it. Part of the reason women have so much power and a select few abuse it is because of guys like the ones on this site going after them for sex. Use whatever beta, alpha online lingo you want, but just by going for a low quality woman for sex, you're giving her more power and then complaining about said power and saying "why can't I find a quality woman?" when you're going after the low quality ones.

Don't badmouth women. They aren't claiming to be something they aren't. If you go after a low quality woman and get hurt, it's not her fault. It's easy to spot them if you aren't thinking with your d1ck.

 

[wait_out]

Don't badmouth women. They aren't claiming to be something they aren't.

O rly.... "hi, I'm a russian spy, can I sleep with you?"

Or are these not women by your definition?

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/russi...ed-regular-nyc/story?id=11044883#.T4IyV1aQtAU

Women can most certainly be excellent liars if they wish to. Or did you think only men are good at that?

 

[Greasy Pig]

Not respecting someone and hating them are two totally different things, carnivale.
People like you trot out the "you're misogynistic" line like confetti whenever you're presented with an opposing view.
It is possible to not respect a woman but still like her and same goes for women and men.

I don't know how many times I've spoken to women who are unhappy in their relationships.
They all said they love the guy and how wonderful he is but when it all boils down, they just don't respect him.
Like Danger, I've slept with scores of women but only truly, deeply respected a few. It doesn't mean I hate them or wish them harm. That attitude is definitely not misogyny.

 

[( . )( . )]

True alpha males aren't on a women hating PUA site. Do you think James Dean, Frank Sinatra, Sean Connery would be on here?

Those old school guys would have slapped you down for venturing out of the kitchen for a start, let alone allowing you to be a bitter mouthpiece for our self entitled misandric brainwashed westernized cvm catchers.

If anything we are borderline white knights.

Btw the irony is if every man turned into the type of guy who can spot your textbook shaming tactics , call you on it and shut you down.. you'd be as happy as a lezzo with 2 vaginas. But you secretly know this as much as I do.

But I digress, relax and think about it. You and your sisters will still have a large pool of beta providers on call when your ready to settle (Noticed you squawking about carrying a baby for 9 months, I dare say that time is nigh). As it stands there is only perhaps 1 or 2 out of 10 Western men who "get it", even with these sites to teach them, so fear not.

 

[djgirl]

Ive been following this thread for a while now along with this forum....
At times this forum does feel like a hatred towards women, putting them down constantly etc

Whilst i do agree that some women are sh1t and have no respect for themselves and give us other good women a bad name, i do have to say were not all like that.....I can easily turn around and point out my hatred towards men and the countless bad experiences ive had with them! but i think theres good and bad in both sexes, and i aint no feminist but to make women the less superior, the scum just because you guys have had sh1tty experiences with them is wrong....

Ive had the best of both worlds, and have had problems with both genders. At the end of the day i feel as if you just have to weed out the bad apples to get to the good ones. And just remember if it didnt work out with that chick your crazy about, then look at it as experience and being one step closer to finding your "unique other"

 

[brainsickirishman]

I still dont get this, is this site supposed to be a forum on how to become an Alpha Male with the ladies... a don Juan? I am confused by all the hateful comments about females.... I thought this was a place for discussions by MEN who love females.... and want to better attract females??

Here is a few tips (on topic of the site)

1) treat the woman as an equal, because she is (they like that)

2) remember, they are horny MOST of the time (if your can't get laid with her, you are just not doing it right)

3) ask them all about them, in turn.... they will ask all about you...so dont try to shove it down her throat when you are first talking, shows that you only give a **** about yourself.

4) take good care of yourself.. because if you are FAT, UNKEPT, DIRTY and JOBLESS.... it shows that you cant take care of yourself let alone take care of a female!!

If you can do these things without being a hateful, spiteful and redicioulous moron....then HAVE FUN GETTING LAID!!!!!!:cheer: