Why are some men just better at life

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Men have mental health and physical health problems than women hence our approach in life vary widely compare to women.

Women are more resistant to mental breakdown than men. When we have breakdown, it affects our ability to think straight. It affects our career, personal life with the women too.
 

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It was because she took interest in me due to my looks and the interest was sealed because some other guy came up and tried to ****block me, but instead was thrown on the ground by me. It was really just luck that this guy thought he was going to intimidate me and gave me the opportunity to knock his ass out.
Sounds like an interesting story. You're saying this guy got in your face and that allowed you display what an alpha dog you were by kicking his @ss, and that attracted the girl, right?
Just curious, what was he doing to try to intimidate you? Was he a friend of the girl or just some random guy coming up to try to hit on her?
 

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zekko said:
Sounds like an interesting story. You're saying this guy got in your face and that allowed you display what an alpha dog you were by kicking his @ss, and that attracted the girl, right?
Just curious, what was he doing to try to intimidate you? Was he a friend of the girl or just some random guy coming up to try to hit on her?

Well, I hope I don't get flamed for this, but I might as well tell the truth. Here is how it went: Me, big white bouncer looking guy gets stopped by cute white girl with nice a55. I'm dancing with her for about 20 minutes and we are hitting it off great until a ghetto black dude comes up and starts trying to freak her... she was not having it and kept trying to move away from this guy and sort of hold on to me as he continued to do whatever ghetto crap he was trying to do. She would sort of walk around me holding onto my arm and he would follow her trying to freak her from every possible angle. Eventually, he was bumping into me trying to get to her. First of all, it looked pretty gay with some ghetto fool trying to freak on my leg every 30 seconds and second, she wasn't the type of girl to say "no!" forcefully, so she kept trying to get away from this dude by clinging to me. Eventually, I got upset and just put my hand on his chest and threw him back about 8 feet and walked at him with fists clenched. I was just about to headbutt his ass to the ground when his 3 "homies" appeared out of nowhere and started to get in my face with your typical: "Naaww phoo, it ain't goin down like that bro! How you gonna put yo hands on my partner!! etc, etc..." I stopped, looked at all of them and said "I'm going to beat the sh1t out of ALL of you if you don't get the fvck away from me!" I knew that if I went right into it and gave them no warning, they would not have time to go get a knife or a strap or anything like that. Luckily for them, one of the bouncers at the party saw the big circle around us and calmly walked up to the three dudes and said-- "I don't really want to see you guys get smashed tonight, ok?" Which was great for them, because they got to keep talking sh1t as they were walking away. The common "that's right fool, you lucky this guy was here!"

One of the guys had this approach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFZyl7hfBw

I kind of laughed a little bit inside after that event, but when I looked at the girl, it was easy to see that she had totally surrendered herself to me and decided that she was going home with me that night. I'm relatively certain that before that big confrontation, there was nothing out of the ordinary that I was doing that would make her want to f me that night. Most likely it would have been an exchange numbers thing and then a later date where we went out and did something fun and hopefully I would get to nail her.

This was different. This girl got to visually see the guy she was interested in be the alpha male. There was no mimicry or faking or bragging, it was just cold, hard bravery and balls out courage. In that sense, I was lucky to have this guy there doing his ghetto crap at that moment. Without his stupidness, I would have appeared like any other normal, average guy. And we all know what happens to average guys.
 

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Really there is no "pat" answer to this question. Success is multifactorial. Average people (and average is relative) want to distill down to one neat little explanation why so-and-so has it all, or why he is better, or why his gf is hotter.

But, like Duffdog said, sometimes life just isn't fair. Some people are born into privilege like the blond with the insurance company. Some people are born into sh!t like the kid whose mom gave him aids and hepatitis from IV drug use. You cant compare yourself to others, or you will never be happy. Comparing yourself to others is a terrible way to achieve anything other than shallow, momentary happiness. Most likely you will just get depressed.

In my opinion, success is mostly hard work and persistence, but also a fair measure of plain luck and just knowing the right people.
 

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Colossus said:
Really there is no "pat" answer to this question. Success is multifactorial. Average people (and average is relative) want to distill down to one neat little explanation why so-and-so has it all, or why he is better, or why his gf is hotter.

But, like Duffdog said, sometimes life just isn't fair. Some people are born into privilege like the blond with the insurance company. Some people are born into sh!t like the kid whose mom gave him aids and hepatitis from IV drug use. You cant compare yourself to others, or you will never be happy. Comparing yourself to others is a terrible way to achieve anything other than shallow, momentary happiness. Most likely you will just get depressed.

In my opinion, success is mostly hard work and persistence, but also a fair measure of plain luck and just knowing the right people.
You and Duffdog are damn realists, which is marvelous!

& @ Duff, you shouldn't get flamed as that above paragraph made me LMAO and explained an alpha male case.

But here's the bottom skinny. Life ain't fair. Accept this goddamn fact. Let it marinate. Not all men are created equal. Those who make complaints about how others are better all the time are only defeating themselves. If you have a chance to become better, work on it. I was born into a middle class family and had great money until I lost my mother. But these days, I'm trying to get good in the music biz to get some mad money.

Growing up, I was a tormented underdog. Then I started showing my skills, becoming a better man in the process. Also remember that the best revenge on those who always hate on you and try to bring you down is this: Prove those sons of b**ches wrong! Giving in to the hater's ways is not good. those who do only defeat themselves.

Success has many levels and I'm going for upper echelon! Take charge! Go for the gold! Nobody's gonna spoonfeed you that sh*t! Spoonfeed your goddamn self!

Always keep in mind that just like somebody got it better and hella better than your ass, somebody got it worse and hella worse than your ass.
 

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“Each player must accept the cards life deals him or her: but once they are in hand, he or she alone must decide how to play the cards in order to win the game.” - Volitare


who the hell cares what some kid in africa is dealing with. Well let me rephrasae that. Of course I care. But that has nothing to do with MY success.

I have to worry about MY cards and how I can better MYSELF to be the best person I can possibly be given the circumstances.

I don't waste one second of my time listening to people tell me what I can't do. I surround msyelf with positive influences and I listen to people who are where I am trying to go or are on the path with me.

Find successful people and you will find that for the most part they all have the same chararistics. At least the self made ones. I don't even see why 2 pages were wasted talking about people born into prilvage. You aren't, deal with it. Let's focus on **** you can control. Why do you want to sit around and discuss why someone who was born into a wealthy family is succssful?


I am a big believer in proverty, but as something that should be overcame, not as a long term living process. Proverty brings out some of your best qualities.




Also, we have went 3 pages and no one has defined exactly what successful is.

A dumb blonde running an insurance company her dad bought for her is not what i define as successful.

You can put an unsccssful person into any sitution no matter how good and they will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

My old oneitis dated this guy for like 3 years whose dad was the CFO of a fortune 500 company. The kid was as dumb as a box of rocks. He sold drugs, did drugs, got caught with guns.. parents paid his way for everything.. he tried to kill himself twice. Had my old oneitis not found him on the bathroom floor he would have succeeded. Actually if you do a search on it a few years back I posted about this here, she used that as an excuse to start getting closer to me and coming around more often, etc.


As I am typing this I got a call from a friend back in arkansas, one of the biggest if not the biggest booster in arkansas razorback football, Jim Lindsey, his son, who fits the description of being born into money, just filed for BK and at best he has shorted banks of 100 million dollars and at worst about half a billion. His dad had been covering his **** ups for a couple of years but could not hold the bridge together long enough.

if you have the makings of an unsuccessful person eventually the house of cards will fall in some way, shape or form.

You can put a successful person in any situation and they can usually work their way out of it.


I do not define success as just money first and foremost. Is the woman making 50k a year teaching but would rather not be doing anythig else in the world than what she is doing and maeks a positive influence in people's life not successful?

Why do I give a **** who the dumb rich blonde does or does not date? I don't mean that in a bad way.. I just don't care. That in no way has anything to do with my success nor do I consider my abaility to date her or not the defination of my success.

Am I supposed to feel bad because of this mythical 12 inch **** boggy man (we all know white people don't have 12 inch ****s anyway)


I have a 3rd grade teacher that I am forever grateful for.. mrs scarbrough... when I went into 3rd grade I was in slow people classes. she saw something in me.. what i don't know.. and she was the first person to tell me I could do something positive. I mean I was in the 3rd grade it's not like she gave me the think and grow rich audio tape or anything, but she would entourage me to try harder and stay after class and help me out.

By the time I left third grade, I was in alpha (talented and gifted) and the year after that, I got transferred to an entirely different school that hand picked it's students. None of that would have been possible without mrs. scarbrough. I write her once a year, when I had my son, the first time I took her him back home to little rock and saw my parents, I went over mrs scarbrough's house and I had to show her my son. I'm flying her and her husband to my wedding.

How in the hell is she NOT successful? That woman had, still has a passion for her job. She's in her I want to say late 60's now (i wont' ask lol) and her husband was an electrical engineer.. very well off. she could have long retired but she still teaches becuase she loves what she does, and wouldn' dare think of retraining. And I"ve been to her house... very well off.


I make very good money, but that is not why I am successful. I know alot of rich miserable pricks.

I am successful becuase I have a goal, that I am striving for, I am living out my passions in life, and in the process yes I am making good money.


don't confuse realism with defeatism.

Realism is accepting life on life's terms.



It is easy to dismiss other peoples failures as "not trying hard enough", but really, who makes that judgment? Who is to say when a guy tries his whole life to succeed and still fails that he didn't try hard enough? One of the things that has resonated in my mind is how this site seems to have a lot of unfortunate guys asking a bunch of "why's" over and over again. Why did she dump me? Why won't she call back? Why is it this hard to get a hot girl? Why aren't I rich? etc... In many cases, the answer is simply: "because life isn't fair" As a big, tall white guy, it would be a disservice for me to tell smaller guys to use my methods...cuz they probably wouldn't work for anyone else but me!!
usually they don't try hard enough.

it's no different than people in AA.

when you get to AA, in how it works, there is a quite famous line that everyone who has been to an AA meeting knows... "if you want what we have (sobriety) and are willing to go to any lengths to get it"

when you get to AA, 95% of the people will listen and not fully comprehend what that means. All they know is they have been tore up, and are spiritually, psychically and emotionally bankrupt.

They will listen and do things that someone tells them to do, until someone tells them to do something they really don't want to do.. like dont' talk to women for a year (very common request, and there is good rationale behind it) or some very very hardcore old timers will tell a sponsee don't use a car or don't use a cell phone until they tell him to.

Awww HELL naw man, what the **** is wrong with you! I ain't doing that ****.

I remember I had a one on one with a guy who had just got busted for meth, he was 38, he could not read, and had 2 kids, his wife was seperated and took one of her kids to a different state to get away from him. The man had no real job, no real opportunities for work. The guy came up to me after a meeting after I spoke and told me man.. i will do anything to stay clean. my life is on the line. And he said it with the sincerity that I could tell he meant business. He wasn't playing around. I told him that I wanted to talk to him the next day at starbucks.

So we go to Starbucks, I order him a drink, we sit down and start talking and I get his story, I tell him a little about mine, and it's clear within 30 minutes that he has a problem with women. by problem i mean his life is consists of chasing crack-*****s and getting laid.

so I told him.. okay you said you will do anything... so I want you to not date for a year.. he said "man i can't do that, I gotta get laid man, you can't ask me to do that" lol. i got up and left.

he's in jail now. apparently he had not had enough.


And then, when they relapse they will come back and say "man I did everything they asked me to do.. I went to meetings.. " no you did the burger king 12 step plan.. your way right away... "yeah I'll have some step 1./. with some step 4, hold the step 5.. and i'll take some step 12 and add 13".


Hell life is not fair. I was dealt some jokers but hell I have some 3 of dimamonds in my hand as well lol. I'm a very good looking guy naturally. That I am very thankful for. But hell, if I weren't, I'd just have to deal with the ****. what else CAN you do?

I don't have a huge ****. I mean I'm not the smallest guy on earth but I'm not Jake steed or anything. **** if you want a big **** man i'm not your guy. sorry. it is what it is. I dont' think I'm any worse becuase I don't have jake steedesque ****. I dont' think he's any better than I am.



Successful people are measured in way more than just money, and in a way I agree with duffdog on this issue with that being an issue on this site. Success is more than what is measured in your bank account.

ONly you can define what what true success is.
 

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I know a woman, very well actually, who used to literary rob banks and used to walk in stores like dillards and rob them blind, stick up people, rob dope houses, all in the name of smoking crack.

Now she's driving a (brand new) caddy, and runs an entire drug rehabilitation center and she's barley 40. That woman set out a goal when she was sitting in jail. At the time it sounded like a joke. she told everyone she is going to stay clean (Which was at the time just as big a joke), and i'm going to run a drug rehab. check on both.

that woman is successful. she's not broke either, makes right under 100k a year. But what I am getting at is, you can't look at her at 100k and look at the guy making 600k a year and say that guy is 6x more successful. that is what it seems like some are doing.


I know another guy who literary, was on death row, and not only is he still alive, he's free.

Not only is he FREE, he runs the ENTIRE drug inmate rehabilitation program in the state of Arkansas.

He's actually written a book if you look hard enough to find it.. But because of where I know him from I'm not at liberty to give you his name.

How the hell do you get any ****ing lower than being on death row? The man makes well over 200k a year now, pushing a benz doing work that he is passionate about. And this guy is not smart at all. He's not brilliant. hell he's a killer.

The man in death row, made up his mind what he was going to do, and did it. That is what success is in a nutshell.

As much as my mom and I don't get along, I respect her and consider her very successful. Few here know the poverty that my mom grew up in. my mom's house she grew up in had a tree growing in the middle of the living room they where so poor. My mom's goal was to simply get a college education, and provide a better life for her kids. My mom got a full ride to UALR and got a masters degree in business, and sales insurance making a tad bit over 100k a year. Considering I am where I am, and my little sister is in private school and is apparantly eating enough to be fat, lol, she has done a good job.

I dont'thinks she parasitically loves her job but she's good at it, and even more her time gives her the time to dwhat she really loves, religion.

see, my mom is the perfect example of why you can't tie success to money, becuase my mom doesn't give two ****s about money. My mom's defination of success is how close can she be to god. My mom would very well camp outside of curch if she could.

I am successful not becuiase i have some money in the bank, I am successful because i set out a goal and I did it. It's as simple as that.



First of all to be "successful" you have to define what successful is. if you never defeine a goal, you can never achieve them.

My goals are my goals, your goals are your goals.

Success is the level of attainment you have in within your goals.

while I am well off I will never be a billionaire, not because I don't want to be, my goals dont' call for me making a billion dollars.


The ladder of success is never filled at the top. The avg person is quite lazy.

Think about what I am about to say... On bids I put in for my web development company, I am usually up against anywhere from 10-50 compaines for bids.. yet my closing percentage is somewhere between 40-50%.


read that again.

What the hell does that tell you about the other compaines that I am bidding against?

I am successful becuase I simply want it more. I put more work into the proposals I do, I give better answers.

I am going to post this from my email, from a client I got last week... outbided 62 people for this job:


You provided me with a most thorough and impressive response. I would definitely be interested in discussing further via skype or GTalk ( *****************.
Aside from the technical skills, artistic skills, and professionalism, I am looking for a good fit - a development PARTNER. This project is the first piece of a bigger puzzle (a network of sites and brands) and I would really like to find a firm I could continue to work with as we scale up. This ensures consistency and avoids compatibility problems down the road. While I am certainly looking to stretch my dollars (what entrepreneur wouldn't?), I wouldn't expect to get quality work for nothing. And I do want quality.


here is another


Hi Brandon, after your Team USA just beat my beloved Team Canada is "OUR" sport (Mens Hockey) in the olympics a couple days ago, I don't think I am ready yet to be talking to any Yanks...LOL.. I kid obviously.. All kidding aside, I would rather work with someone here in North America for sure as opposed to outsourcing to India and I am thoroughly impressed by your detailed response. It shows you took the time to at least understand the outset of what I want to do.




I'm quite sure these people I am outbidding are smarter than me. Funny story, about 2 months ago I was on a conference call with this guy with like a 20k job that he decided he wanted to talk to all these developers at once. One guy from Germany kept talking and I was saying to myself "lol, damn this guy is smart, i'd hire him". We didn't get the job, mainly because I didn't put much effort into it because the guy lives in germany and meh. If I really wanted the job we would have gotten it. lol, hell truth be told, there are some people on my staff that could run circles around me programming. I know my strenghs, and I know my weaknesses. I'm a pretty good but not great flash developer with more bussiness sense than programming sense. I don't pretend to know everytyhing and I surround myself with people who play off my weaknesses. Even in my personal life, my fiancee is very much the yin to my yang.



Yet these same people that I am just simply outworking, will come here on the forum and talk about how life isn't fair and they how they are doing the work but can't get customers. How it's all the customers fault for not choosing them.

I said this the other day. I refuse to be outworked. It just won't happen.

That attitude has taken me very far in life.

In the first guy's instance, I did about 3 hours of reasearch on his company before I even looked at his bid. I found out that his company sales a very natural ingrident type of lipstick that is very unique to the market and I played on that. I found out the date he incorprated his company. I did thorough research on the type of website he was looking for and resarched his compitition and what they brought to the table. I developed an actual gameplan on how to approach him that I knew would get him.

I took time and broke down each and every point he brought up to the point where I was being redudnant.




Damnit you can say alot of things about me but no client will ever say I did not work for their business.

Really, this has been my findings and I'm been up there and I've been down there. I've smoked crack with homeless people in crackhouses and right now I can skim my cell phone and call a few millionaires. I went to lunch with the VP of IBM last week...we've worked on a few projects together.

I have found that, from my experience.. most people are just lazy.. better stated.. they don't have goals in life that motivate them to work. if your goal is to sit back and smoke crack all day long... well.. that is not a goal that is going to motivate you to do anything but smoke crack all day.
 

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Backbreaker,

Most of your post approached what some would consider a fair quality example of success. However, this:

my mom is the perfect example of why you can't tie success to money, becuase my mom doesn't give two ****s about money. My mom's defination of success is how close can she be to god. My mom would very well camp outside of curch if she could.

Is total bullsh1t. Only people who have large amounts of money are capable of expressing any opinion like "money does not equal success" -- yeah, sure, money doesn't have anything to do with success as long as you already have lots of it. Which is true in your case.

But try telling that to someone who must decide whether to pay for food or to pay for gas so they can work a minimum wage job. I bet you can't convince them that money has nothing to do with success. Money is simply a representation of power. Some people do not thirst for power, others do. The distinction comes from those who do not have any need for power because they already have money. Even though many would say that I am well off and should be happy with my social station, I still want more power simply because that is how I was raised and those are the values instilled in me from a very young age. The concept that "laws" are for losers and poor people is something that I am continually reminded of day by day.

I won't consider myself truly successful unless I can stomp on the civil rights of anyone I want and get away with it scot-free. That is my personal definition of success and I don't expect many on this site to understand it.
 

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Success breeds success.

Most people define success by money and power. I totally agree. But it has different levels. I don't feel like explaining this sh*t because I'm wanna be in the upper echelon!

If you got the short end of the stick and you want a long stick, you better do whatever the f**k you need to do to get that sh*t.

Look at The Rich Jerk on Youtube (BTW he also has some so-called money making strategies in an e-book.) I don't know whether or not this is a scam, but the dude (Kelly Felix) is a goddamn narcissist! He's successful (or faking it.)

Just like these porn sites who wait for you to punch in your credit card # and rob your ass blind for trying to see nude pics of Sarah Palin and other famous actresses. These NSA sex sites are very similar.
 

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Duffdog said:
Backbreaker,

Most of your post approached what some would consider a fair quality example of success. However, this:




Is total bullsh1t. Only people who have large amounts of money are capable of expressing any opinion like "money does not equal success" -- yeah, sure, money doesn't have anything to do with success as long as you already have lots of it. Which is true in your case.

But try telling that to someone who must decide whether to pay for food or to pay for gas so they can work a minimum wage job. I bet you can't convince them that money has nothing to do with success. Money is simply a representation of power. Some people do not thirst for power, others do. The distinction comes from those who do not have any need for power because they already have money. Even though many would say that I am well off and should be happy with my social station, I still want more power simply because that is how I was raised and those are the values instilled in me from a very young age. The concept that "laws" are for losers and poor people is something that I am continually reminded of day by day.

I won't consider myself truly successful unless I can stomp on the civil rights of anyone I want and get away with it scot-free. That is my personal definition of success and I don't expect many on this site to understand it.
successful people are not born. successful people are made. hardship, struggle and life's turns press and mode people into something stronger than they ever thought they could be or it will make people crumble under pressure.

I was not successful when I sold my first company. I became successful the day my mom kicked me out the house, forced me to live out of my fvcking car and I made up my mind then i was not going to let that stop me from running my business like normal.


success is like a game, where you have to make the combination of right moves to win the game or get to the top. every little decision you make, will get you closer and closer tow here you are trying to be.

you talk about some peole being born with a head start.. you can't put me and my mom in the same room for more than 5 mintues without me wanting to throw her threw a window for the **** she made me through,f or no other reason than being basically an athiest when it comes down to it if you want to know the truth. never in trouble, never did anything ot hear, model son, becuase i turned my back on her god she let her damn son walk the streets chasing a dream.. a legit dream. if it weren't' for my son and my fiancee urging me to stay on talking terms with her becuase of my son se could die tomorrow and i would not care.


But the thing is, when it happened, it just happened. I didn't' cry about it, I didn't moan when my family basically in so many words told me not to come to thanksgiving. It did nothing but strenghen my resolve to get where I wanted to get. In fact I'll go so far as to be thankful for going though the things I have had to go though becuase they made me the person I am today. without the trails and tribulations in my life, I would not be as strong willed and determined an individuate as I am.

I KNOW there is no going back for me. There is no living with mom in the extra room in the house and even to this day, the thought that knowing if i fail.. damnit I'm just done.. motivates me. Makes me work. There is NO going back.


I remmeber one day when my first comany had not yet really taken off.. but we had money coming in. I had an apartment, cable TV.... we had like 2,500 dollars in the bank and we needed to order inventory.. but we had maybe 20 dollars worth of food in the pantry. that is a tough decision to make. we bought 25 dollars worth of roman noodles and lived off them for a week. watching thousands of dollars transfer to and from your bank account while you are eating ****ing roman noodles is not easy to do. that is when I became successful. I was not going to let my personal needs come between the good of the company. once I developed that mind set, it was only a matter of time my bank account would take care of itself.

My life struggles and overcoming them did more for my game than any other thing could have possibly done. There was nothing the baddest girl in the club could say to me, I honestly felt like that and still feel like that. I know i'm something, I don't need some skank to tell me that.
 

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I have a story that fits with this rather well. Its about my old boss. He turned a failure of a restaraunt into one of my towns most happening and profitable places ever. He was the model American. He was tall, super good looking, smart, hilarious. Every girl wanted him. He busted his ASS at his restaraunt too. His family wasnt exactly wealthy, but were pretty well off. In College, he took a part time job. He didnt need to at all. When his roomate asked him why he took this job he said, "Its a waiter job at the sorority house. Every night at dinner time, there will be three of us guys, and three hundred women. I would PAY to do this job." The sorority girls named him the 'King of Diamonds.' Basically, that means, he banged most of them.

He had everything going for him. Girls begging for him, a restaraunt worth over two and a half million dollars in PROFIT, great family, no drinking or drug addictions, and character. He worked his ass off for what he had, even though, his family backed him financially. He started as a bartender in a shythole, and with his families help, he got a loan, and bought the place and turned it into the coolest place in town. He was also a GREAT boss. One year, he took his whole staff on a PAID trip to Mexico after the tourist season ended. He also finally found a woman to settle down with and proposed to her. He is NO AFC either!

There were literally around a thousand people at his funeral. His death shook the foundation of the whole town. Numerous charities, and foundations have been set up in his name. I've never known a better man, or seen so many people shattered by his loss. He was the model American, and he had EVERYTHING going for him.

The cause of death was conclusively ruled suicide, though everyone who knew him will never truly believe it. There was information that was never revealed to the public, but his family was satisfied with the ruling. Noone will ever know why.
 

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I have a story that fits with this rather well. Its about my old boss. He turned a failure of a restaraunt into one of my towns most happening and profitable places ever. He was the model American. He was tall, super good looking, smart, hilarious. Every girl wanted him. He busted his ASS at his restaraunt too. His family wasnt exactly wealthy, but were pretty well off. In College, he took a part time job. He didnt need to at all. When his roomate asked him why he took this job he said, "Its a waiter job at the sorority house. Every night at dinner time, there will be three of us guys, and three hundred women. I would PAY to do this job." The sorority girls named him the 'King of Diamonds.' Basically, that means, he banged most of them.

He had everything going for him. Girls begging for him, a restaraunt worth over two and a half million dollars in PROFIT, great family, no drinking or drug addictions, and character. He worked his ass off for what he had, even though, his family backed him financially. He started as a bartender in a shythole, and with his families help, he got a loan, and bought the place and turned it into the coolest place in town. He was also a GREAT boss. One year, he took his whole staff on a PAID trip to Mexico after the tourist season ended. He also finally found a woman to settle down with and proposed to her. He is NO AFC either!

There were literally around a thousand people at his funeral. His death shook the foundation of the whole town. Numerous charities, and foundations have been set up in his name. I've never known a better man, or seen so many people shattered by his loss. He was the model American, and he had EVERYTHING going for him.

The cause of death was conclusively ruled suicide, though everyone who knew him will never truly believe it. There was information that was never revealed to the public, but his family was satisfied with the ruling. Noone will ever know why.
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Wow...if that's a true story that's haunting man. I guess everyone has their own demons, even people that we think have it all. Thanx for all the great replies guys.
 

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Pandora said:
Wow...if that's a true story that's haunting man. I guess everyone has their own demons, even people that we think have it all. Thanx for all the great replies guys.
Unfortunately, it is a true story.
 

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Like it was said, it is hard work. Yes you can be given some money, but if you don't work hard with that money, guess what you won't have any.

I am not going to post success/failure stories here, although I've known some spectacular ones, all I have to say is:

Work hard and enjoy what you are working on.


and

Happiness is best shared with people.


The richest guy I know lives in a house that belonged to a royal family. He is worth 8 figures. He is not happy because his parents are dead, his health sucks and he can't find a good woman.


So make a lot of friends, be good with your family (if you can) and have a thing you work on. Once you find something you like to do, learn to do it better than anyone else, and money will be a dessert on top of your journey.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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There is no class so pitiably wretched as that which possesses money and nothing else.
-Andrew Carnegie




I have had all of the disadvantages required for success.
-Larry Ellison
 
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In the final analysis, you are going to die and so will I. Most of us here are at least in our 20s, assuming we live a long life, our lives are half over already. In fact, there is no guarantee we will even make it into our 40s.

No one can escape death, though many die trying.

A man with all the successes in the world and a poor beggar both share the same fate.

The question must be asked: 'Is there anything after death? Or is it all meaningless?'
 

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backbreaker said:
My life struggles and overcoming them did more for my game than any other thing could have possibly done. There was nothing the baddest girl in the club could say to me, I honestly felt like that and still feel like that. I know i'm something, I don't need some skank to tell me that.
Beautiful and inspirational.
 

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How about stop being jealous of other people?
Quit being a charity case and just appreciate your own life.
I'm not sure where u guys got that from. In my post i never said anything about feeling sorry for myself or jealousy. I was simply asking if extraordinary success was solely a function of discipline. If so, then its possible for us to cultivate that kind of discipline so we can be the best at whatever we pursue. If its a combo of discipline, genetics and circumstance, than i guess a lot of it is out of our hands. Trying to cultivate discipline in order to be among high achievers is the opposite of feeling sorry for oneself, jealousy or being a charity case.

It sounds like you're well on your way to exploiting whatever strengths you have, and that's all anyone can do. It's also what most people never put much effort into.
bigjohnson, I agree. Imagine if we were free to pursue what our strengths were. If we all went into professions that exploited our talents and strengths we would be at the among the best at what we do. Often it seems like we devalue what we are good at. Were afraid to exploit our strengths for fear there will not be a financial reward at the end. This is tragic.
 
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L777 said:
Seriously mate, for 31, you're an absolute twonk - you sound like your average, arrogant 20 year old college douchebag. Stop wanking over yourself already and offer something useful to this thread that I'm reading.
LOL, you should see this genetic wonderboy's myspace. LOL. He's obese and installs speakers in bars. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

He's just another awkward dork sitting on an internet forum pretending to be a wealthy alpha ****ing hot women when he's not beating up thugs. Sounds like one too many comic books.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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