who in the world came up with the bright idea of Monogamy?

[SELF-MASTERY]

Aren't you the person who said that you were going to marry a religious girl just because your family wanted you to or else they wouldn't show up at your wedding. And so you had to follow it.
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Did you use the search to find that info, or are you someone else with a new screen name???

I did say that and I still stand by that. I want to marry a religious girl of the same faith as me.

My comment had nothing to do with with religion. You can't use something that is true for China to explain what is true for the western world. It is a fact that the family unit is one of the most important factors in shaping a child's future. I'm not here to force anyone to do ANYTHING. I know that I will never have a child without a wife and that I want to be married with children.

 

[STR8UP]

I've done that and it is not as rewarding as being with someone who honestly cares, and no I'm not talking about creating the kinds of parasitic illusions that you guys dream about, having a harem of women that are willing to give up their self worth for your happiness. I enjoy real relationships with real women that have self-respect and values. So, monogamy will be my ideal regardless of how much I make. You cannot deny 1000's of years of biology and socialization.

It's GREAT to be with someone who honestly cares. But for how long will that person care? Six months? A year? Five years? It's a crap shoot, and personally, I don't like the odds.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

To each his own...

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

You sound like an old woman just "blah blah blah". If you got some bright idea thats going to take the world by storm... then do it.

What's the point in complaining about something you can't change?

 

[American_Psycho]

I just did some quick research and I found that there were many soceity's that practiced polygamy, including the Chinese, and it worked out well for them. The queston isn't about marriage, it's about polygamy.

Yeah, it worked out so well for them that their country is now overpopulated, overpolluted, and the government restricts how many children you can have.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Yeah, it worked out so well for them that their country is now overpopulated, overpolluted, and the government restricts how many children you can have.

Plus they're short with bad teeth

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

some animals are monogomous... geese are. when their mate dies.. they pretty much have no one else but the flock.

i had to bring this up cuz my bro told me the most amazing story that he saw...

a geese was hit by a car... and the mate was in the middle of the road "honking" at cars to "scare" them away.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Let me ask you guys...

If you want to marry 10 different women, why get married at all? Why not just date 10 different women?

Seriously, if you're the kind of guy who doesn't want 1 woman, why are you considering marriage? It doesnt make sense.

 

[belividere]

To me, it's a nice idea. It's wonderful. It's definately something I want. When I think of monogomy, I think of Marriage. . .

. . .As I've said, I've always "attracted" the precise girl I wanted at the moment I was ready for her. And I always will.

Do this:

Write down the 1 type of girl, every feature included, that would KNOCK you over. And see if you decide monogamy COULD be possible. I think Monogamy with any broad sucks. But with one special girl it's great.


A-Unit

I agree with you that monogamy with an equal, and deserved partner is a thing that is rare and worth pursuit, but my disagreement arises in that when you begin to exclusively fantasize about a specific women you also begin to shut out opprutunity. If there is one take home message that I've learned on this site it has been to qualify women, but at the same time I have learned to become interested in the potential of other possible prospects. I would hate to define every possible feature in a potential girlfriend only to figure out that she has 36c's vs. 36d's, or green eyes vs. blue, and lose interest. For me the definition of successful monogamy to understand and compromise. I'm not sold on the idea's yet but based on my past performance that seems to be the winning formula.

Backbreaker,

There is no natural definition of monogamy within the human species that is not influenced by societal pressures or norms. If anything it seems that modern society is breaking away from the idea of monogamistic relationships that endure a lifetime and popularity is gaining on mulitple partner relationships. Personally, I dont know which pill is more easily swallowed. On one hand the potential to be promiscous is presented, on the other the potential challenge to endure a life time commitment is offered. I am not sure which choice I will take in the long run, but I am grateful that irregardless of my decision there wont be social ramifications as there were in the past. 50 or 100 yrs ago I would have been married and in my middle age already, today I'm in my prime and can chose whatever path I want.

 

[The Truth]

Do this:

Write down the 1 type of girl, every feature included, that would KNOCK you over. And see if you decide monogamy COULD be possible. I think Monogamy with any broad sucks. But with one special girl it's great.

A very good point!! From what I can see, guys who oppose monogamy either have not found a girl like this or they have found more than one!

People find it hard to understand why I am always faithful and happy in my LTRs. It's simple for me. I hold out until I find the right girl for me and when I do I'm satisfied in every way. I don't need sex, attention, love, or the likes from any other girl.

 

[Consent]

I did say that and I still stand by that. I want to marry a religious girl of the same faith as me.

Yeah, because you said you wanted your family to be at the wedding, otherwise they wouldn't show up.

My comment had nothing to do with with religion. You can't use something that is true for China to explain what is true for the western world.

Um, it was just ONE example. It even exists in Jewish law, as well as many other examples, including christians as Saint Agustine pointed out. It's funny you tell me to go do research yet you obviously have done none and claim your point of view as "fact". Guess that's how people like you come to conclusions since you're used to being sheep and believing for the sake of comfort.

I know that I will never have a child without a wife and that I want to be married with children.

Again, this thread wasn't about marriage, it was about monogomy/polygamy, but I doubt you could comprehend that.

Yeah, it worked out so well for them that their country is now overpopulated, overpolluted, and the government restricts how many children you can have.

Uh yeah, so that's why experts predict that within 30 years they will be the World's leading superpower. And according to your "logic", slavery in America was a good thing right since America has done so well?

Plus they're short with bad teeth

Nice, a racist comment. I wonder if you'd go up to Asians and Africans and say racist comments like that to their face, or if you'd be chickensh*t? Christians like you are a dime a dozen, sin as much as you can and repent later lol...it's no wonder that criminals in America are disporportionately Christians.

 

[American_Psycho]

Uh yeah, so that's why experts predict that within 30 years they will be the World's leading superpower. And according to your "logic", slavery in America was a good thing right since America has done so well?

Who cares? Do you want to go live in China? Does anyone except for the Chinese want to live in China? Three words: standard of living.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the slavery thing. Slavery is morally wrong and I don't support it, but it did help develop America's economy in the 18th and 19th centuries...So I don't think slavery is a good thing, but yes, it did contribute to America's growth as a nation.

 

[sifer]

I didn't read the others so don't ask or quote out of context.

Backbreaker I usually agree with you on money matter but on cases like this I'll have to pass and say this - you probably never experienced someone worth dying for.

I hate to say it but being here for quite a while, having actually done a lot of bad (not dirty, BAD, like cheating, stealing gfs, etcetc) it's kind of saddening to realize how much guys you can crush by doing this.

That's my personal experience though, just try it, get a girl to cheat on her bf with you. Then purposedly get caught. You don't have to see it physically, but instantly, even if he doesn't move, just watch him get crushed mentally.

However. One thing on why I believe love exist is because one girl I know, whom is my exgf and my godsister, going to college and beyond, she's in love with her bf for years and neither have cheated or flirted with other people. Sort of like Adriana Lima (she's still a virgin, don't ask how I know, I just have a few friends in Hollywood). And she's still a virgin, extremely faithful if you ask me.

Then there's someone I used to know, I met from the Downtown Manhattan Hospital near that police headquarter (for the love of god can anyone recall the exact name??? God I hate when this happen). I was in there for a checkup, and there's this nurse who told me she is married and in love with her husband for 20+ years.

I asked if she knew he had cancer at the time when they married, she said she married him even after knowing he had cancer. That's true love. How many of us would touch a girl with cancer? Most of us would avoid it like plague. And yes they still have healthy sex. Risky but that's true love, willing to die to please one another.

This was one of my attempt to get her to cheat on her hubby. Failed attempt. Another "true love" stamped in that couple.

What I realize is, none of these so-called seduction work on mature or experienced chicks. So what can I say?

Then there's my first. If I could experience it again, trust me Backbreaker, I'd give up ALL my business contact, my money, and even a limb or two to do so.

I'll just quote Warren Buffet -

"If I could give up billions for one good marriage, I would have done so long ago."

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Nice, a racist comment. I wonder if you'd go up to Asians and Africans and say racist comments like that to their face, or if you'd be chickensh*t? Christians like you are a dime a dozen, sin as much as you can and repent later lol...it's no wonder that criminals in America are disporportionately Christians.

you have me all figured out don't you? I still don't understand why you are turning this into a religious debate??? Beside the whole issue with my family and marriage issue; I just want someone that has a similar background as I do. I wonder if you can understand and respect that?

You imagine me as someone I am not, but xtian is like your trigger food, like donuts to a fat chick.

God Bless You:flowers:

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Del

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

But for how long will that person care? Six months? A year? Five years? It's a crap shoot, and personally, I don't like the odds.

I don't think that it is wise to live life in fear of rejection or strife. Play the game and accept the consequences. Life is too short for me to worry about what if she dumps me in 3, 6, or 12 months. I just refuse to live life in fear of anything.

fk hoes; have LTR's/marry women.:rock:

 

[Consent]

Who cares? Do you want to go live in China? Does anyone except for the Chinese want to live in China? Three words: standard of living.

I just checked the World Tourism Organization that said China is the fastest growing tourist spot in the world, currently in 4th place. America is 3rd, but it is about to be over-taken due to slow pace.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the slavery thing. Slavery is morally wrong and I don't support it, but it did help develop America's economy in the 18th and 19th centuries...So I don't think slavery is a good thing, but yes, it did contribute to America's growth as a nation.

.....I was using slavery as an example of how stupid your analogy was. But since you didn't get it, I'll spell it out for you: you implied that polygamy caused overpopulation and overpolution. How exactly does polygamy cause more babies? and more polution? Making things up again huh

 

[Consent]

you have me all figured out don't you?

Yeah I have you figured out pretty well in the sense that you're the type of person who believes in something without research. A clear example of that were the "facts" you were talking about polygamy and telling everyone else to go do research when it was very clear you didn't do any research yourself. Another type of person you are is a hypocritical person who pretends to be a "good christian" but obviously disciminates against others based on race.

I just want someone that has a similar background as I do. I wonder if you can understand and respect that?

It's not that you just want someone with a similar background, but also someone who is as brainwashed as your family has raised you.
This is what you wrote in the other thread to show as examples:
"condition for my future wife she has to be someone that grew up in the church and not some convert"
"Coming from a uber christian family, i have to eventual settle down with an uber christian young lady(or else no one in my family will attend my weddind"

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Take a sociology class or 10 then comeback with some real knowledge.

 

[Consent]

haha actually I have taken one of those classes as an option and it did say that it was just a different form of a relationship with no dire consequences. But awww, don't feel bad that you just got owned. Just go back to your fetal position and do whatever your parents tell you to.