Who here wants to get married and why?

[resilient]

Wait...So we have a divorced ex-con A.K.A Jewru1000 and BeExcellent A.K.A. BeDivorced who claim to be "too busy" in life posting scroll bombs of pro-marriage replies all day. Makes perfect sense on SS.

Lol. Naughty Ninja is that you?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Blue pill sh*t.

Women have kids without being married all the time. And married women cheat all the time.

You can't be serious lol.

It’s about likelihood.


Whether they will or not has to do with who they are as a person. All women are prone to cheat at one point or another, but many do not. Being married lowers the chance that they will because then society gets involved (keep in mind, public shaming is a woman’s biggest fear).

 

[BeExcellent]

Perfect example of how it's impossible to "filter" upfront. People either change or people either flat out put out FALSE FRONTS in order to dupe you into thinking they are somebody that they aren't.

That's on me. I assumed I knew him well before we started dating. No problem owning that one. That for me is a lesson learned and so now I know to vet much more carefully and how to advise my children in this regard.

That "man" is sitting on his a.ss right now collecting money off of your hard work, properties, and other business projects.......not having to do anything and he's set for life.

No actually he is working just now in a role with substantial responsibility that because it is in education happens to be poorly compensated relative to what I earn. Look. I realize you think he is a complete loser, and I don't really disagree with you. His laziness/lack of ambition & bad habits are in fact why I eventually got fed up and divorced him. But the fact of the matter also happens to be that this man raised our 3 children from infancy up into the grade school years while I was out of town for business. I had major issues with his bad habits, his laziness, and his financial lack of knowledge as well as his lack of business acumen and ambition, once that became apparent, but he is a loving father who took care of the children which enabled me to go and make the high income. I could not have done both things @Tenacity so there was value in his role as the at home parent. ANY court would assign value to this without question. Kids don't raise themselves properly. To be honest I was proud I could afford for my children to have an at home parent taking care of them rather than putting them in daycare. My kids have never been in daycare which I am also pleased about.

Without the high income there would be no real estate portfolio. So a court would have made the rational logical deduction that he contributed to my wealth through his presence as a parent. I acknowledge and agree that his presence as a parent had value. You have no children. You have NO idea what it is like to have that kind of responsibility 24/7/365 and so your failure to assign his role any value is ignorant (because you don't know). I DO assign his role value and any court would have as well. Were the roles backwards? You bet your ass they were - but I just thought OK, we work together and we get it done and we do whatever it takes.

You are entitled to your opinion. Your view is terribly short sighted from where I sit having the experience I have (and don't forget the legal background - I watched my father try ugly divorce cases for many years...) I don't have to pay my ex a dime per the court. I choose to because I think it is the correct thing to do and I don't care what you think. I assign the father of my children value as a father. My children love him and there is additionally no need to create resentment toward me if they see him destitute or suffering financially while I'm doing well. My children will see him as he is soon enough, my son already is starting to see. I don't see any need to run down the father of my children even though I am in a position, legally speaking, that I could just leave him be and hang him out to dry. That is not who I am, and I will never be such a person. Is my ex lucky? You bet your ass he is. There are not many people, never mind women who are as magnanimous as I am. I can afford it, it's no skin off my nose, it gives a mature example to my children and everybody is happy up in here.

You aren't getting married in this universe so why does it bug you so much? When did you get so concerned about ol' BE?

 

[guru1000]

That's true, there are other ways of achieving creditor protection, but the more the merrier.

We should create an asset-protection thread in the Wealth section. I have some vehicles that are mind-blowing, to those who understand them.

 

[BeExcellent]

We should create an asset-protection thread in the Wealth section. I have some vehicles that are mind-blowing, to those who understand them.

I'm all ears. I shall look for the thread and contribute where I feel I have something to offer.

 

[Tenacity]

You aren't getting married in this universe so why does it bug you so much? When did you get so concerned about ol' BE?

I'm actually not bugged. The purpose of this thread is to put it all out there and the individual audience members have to choose their own direction.

I will say this though, to everybody reading.........if you follow some of the "advice" of these folks promoting marriage to be so WONDERFUL and you end up married, then divorced facing extreme financial issues.......NONE of these people on this board will be there to help you.

And when you post on this forum saying you are going through a divorce, expect @guru1000 to respond blaming YOU for the situation, saying that you missed step "19" in the "145 Steps To Filter For A Good Spouse". So I'm just pre-warning you so you don't say good ol' Tenacity didn't tell you

 

[guru1000]

I'm actually not bugged. The purpose of this thread is to put it all out there and the individual audience members have to choose their own direction.

I will say this though, to everybody reading.........if you follow some of the "advice" of these folks promoting marriage to be so WONDERFUL and you end up married, then divorced facing extreme financial issues.......NONE of these people on this board will be there to help you.

And when you post on this forum saying you are going through a divorce, expect @guru1000 to respond blaming YOU for the situation, saying that you missed step "19" in the "145 Steps To Filter For A Good Spouse". So I'm just pre-warning you so you don't say good ol' Tenacity didn't tell you

LOL.

Nice straw. No one stated that marriage is absent risk. No fruitful venture is absent risk. The subject matter simply addressed the degree of risk and how to best mitigate that risk to those who are open to marriage.

 

[Von]

Well i'll put my 2 cents.

Marriage forces 2 individuals to become a team ... partners... work together... beyond the ''love aspects'' (due to legal and financial constraint)... So Marriage puts alot more ''barriers and pressure' and vulnerabilities beyond matters of the heart' in maintaining that LTR

LTR are just based on love and requires all the same things as marriage to work... without the ''frame or constraint''

In both case, you need a complimentary and understanding partner who has a commitment to making it work (and you need that also)

People in Marriage and LTR do enjoy a stronger sense of well-being and power... because they have someone that contributes in their life or they ain't always looking the next plate.

Yes, nothing is perfect... but you are not alone in this imperfection

I'll likely will get married soon, before now I've never thought about it or cared really, not even seeing the point.. and still not 100% convinced. However, the girl I am picking seems to be right to build something, a common future

LTR and Marriage are like babies... a serious discussion and matter, you need to be there with the right person for the right reasons.

Why I would get married?
Cause the woman I marry is the one that will be having my kids
Pooling our ressources together for a common ground
She's in the right frame to balance me as a person
Cause she's asking for it

 

[Tenacity]

LOL.

Nice straw. No one stated that marriage is absent risk. No fruitful venture is absent risk. The subject matter simply addressed the degree of risk and how to best mitigate that risk to those who are open to marriage.

Lol Guru just keep it real. You know VERY WELL you would say the exact thing I said you would say.

For example, if Tenacity ran out and got married next year (2018).......then in 2024 I came on the forum and said I'm getting a divorce, you would pick a part something (literally anything) I did "wrong" or missed in the "145 Steps To Find A Good Spouse" to put the blame solely on me for "picking poorly", and not on the systematic/market issues that I continue to reference.

You know good and well you would do that.

 

[guru1000]

Lol Guru just keep it real. You know VERY WELL you would say the exact thing I said you would say.

For example, if Tenacity ran out and got married next year (2018).......then in 2024 I came on the forum and said I'm getting a divorce, you would pick a part something (literally anything) I did "wrong" or missed in the "145 Steps To Find A Good Spouse" to put the blame solely on me for "picking poorly", and not on the systematic/market issues that I continue to reference.

You know good and well you would do that.

Is this a reverse-argument tactic poking on the guilt buttons of the adversary? LOL. Luckily, I feel no guilt, and we both know I was once a bad boy

I would actually be proud of you if you married (and even divorced). To me, this shows you're capable of change. Because as far as anyone here is concerned regarding other matters... Tenacity is a lost cause <clears throat>... or in a more politically correct statement ... Tenacity will never change.

 

[Tenacity]

I would actually be proud of you if you married (and even divorced). To me, this shows you're capable of change..

So you would be "proud" of me losing a portion of my assets? Just because it quote, unquote, showed I was willing to "change"? Damn.....can I show my willingness to "change" in another way lol?? For example, I hate Baseball, so how about I "change it up" and attend a Baseball game or something? I'll even buy a jersey.

 

[stovepipe]

I personally would recommend against for many reasons but some go down this path. Just realize that one day all relationships end.

Very few end up married for 40-50 years anymore. I also think having kids puts more strain on the marriage--it doesn't FIX things like some think.

Courts rule BIG in favor of women so now you're on the hook for alimony AND child support AND now you only have one income to live on AND you've lost 50% of what you own including your house and retirement savings. All because "she" wasn't "happy." Yikes, no F'ing way.

The happiest marriages I've seen were one's without kids. The couple travels the world, eats at nice restaurants, save money, ect. It's hard to find a women who doesn't want a kid these days. Me personally, I think kids complicate things and cost a crap load of $$.

Sad to say I agree with you that all relationships end.

 

[guru1000]

So you would be "proud" of me losing a portion of my assets? Just because it quote, unquote, showed I was willing to "change"? Damn.....can I show my willingness to "change" in another way lol?? For example, I hate Baseball, so how about I "change it up" and attend a Baseball game or something? I'll even buy a jersey.

I somehow believe that you are not the type of guy who would ever lose his assets. You're way too paranoid! Your prenup would have a prenup, and your corporations would be owned by corporations, which are further owned by off-shore trusts with seasonal-changing trustees triggered by "duress" bylaws. So don't worry there big guy!

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Sadly the ego misses the whole point of life. It's obviously not about the protection of assets because you lose them all anyway at the end of the day.

The sensible non-egotistical approach is to look at assets as just one box to be ticked, to be balanced out by others. So one would have a modicum of assets in order to pursue other goals in life. Life would NOT be about the maximization of assets. Why would one ever think something so crazy as this?? Because there is the most powerful ideology in existence out there reducing people to individuated homo economicus! the unexamined life is not worth living people.

 

[Tenacity]

I somehow believe that you are not the type of guy who would ever lose his assets. You're way too paranoid! Your prenup would have a prenup, and your corporations would be owned by corporations, which are further owned by off-shore trusts with seasonal-changing trustees triggered by "duress" bylaws. So don't worry there big guy!

Well, you are right about that lol! The only issue I still have with this entire discussion.....is just still....what is the point of doing it? I still don't understand what benefit I'm getting from a legal relationship with a woman that I don't get outside of it?

Plus, women are like Cars, in that the moment you "drive them off the lot" they depreciate. She's getting older by the day, her looks are going down, etc. Why in the world would you sign on for life to a depreciating asset? Ever heard of that saying if it flies, floats, or fvcks......LEASE IT?

If not, let me let The Rock tell you

 

[guru1000]

Well, you are right about that lol! The only issue I still have with this entire discussion.....is just still....what is the point of doing it? I still don't understand what benefit I'm getting from a legal relationship with a woman that I don't get outside of it?

None, other than a different type of woman, one that may be better suited for an LTR. But hey, "if all the woman are the same to you," and there are no distinctions among them, then it doesn't matter, right?

Plus, women are like Cars, in that the moment you "drive them off the lot" they depreciate. She's getting older by the day, her looks are going down, etc. Why in the world would you sign on for life to a depreciating asset?

Now that's a solid downside (bolded) to which I could not even refute.

 

[Cactus]

So now SS is a pro-marriage site yet you're still worried about your 10+ wife's future looks degrading.

If you consider the possibility of your 10+ wives future looks degrading why don't you buy her all the plastic, cosmetic etc surgery your ballin' beta bitcoin bucks can afford? She is your loyal, perfect wifey after all. Problem solved.​

 

[Urbanyst]

It’s about likelihood.


Whether they will or not has to do with who they are as a person. All women are prone to cheat at one point or another, but many do not. Being married lowers the chance that they will because then society gets involved (keep in mind, public shaming is a woman’s biggest fear).

And since when does "society" take men's side on ANYTHING? What evidence do you have the married women are LESS likely to cheat. That is 100% pure Grade-A horse sh*t.

If a woman cheats on her husband is the man's fault. Not hers. That's how "society" acts.

Dude, pull your head out of the blue pill sand lol.

 

[Urbanyst]

I stated that my overall sense of well being was higher while I was married.

I did not state for this reason marriage is better than an LTR. Hence, this is your claim.

Then WHY is marriage better than a LTR????????

Answer.

Define what you mean by "just dating someone" and I will respond.

A LTR (sexual) with a woman where you don't have a legal CONTRACT approving it. I bet your nickname growing up was Albert Einstein right?

Now you're just arguing for the hell of it (like a woman). Your arguments have already been pulverized and there isn't much reason for you to keep going at this point. But I hope you do because I'm having fun lol.

 

[Urbanyst]

That's on me. I assumed I knew him well before we started dating. No problem owning that one. That for me is a lesson learned and so now I know to vet much more carefully and how to advise my children in this regard.

Until you develop full blown mind reading abilities.. you can't fully "vet" sh*t.

So stop kidding yourself.