Who here wants to get married and why?

[guru1000]

Then WHY is marriage better than a LTR???????? I bet your nickname growing up was Albert Einstein right?

Einstein says for you to comprehend my answer, you need to comprehend this question:

Are all women woven of the same LTR quality--or--are some women better LTR candidates than others?

 

[BeExcellent]

Until you develop full blown mind reading abilities.. you can't fully "vet" sh*t.

So stop kidding yourself.

You know, it's very sweet that you chase the old lady around to pull her pigtails. It's charming honestly, especially for a gritty city boy like you.

I've said here many times observe behavior. People will always show you who they are. You just have to be objective & observe.

That's all vetting boils down to.

 

[Cactus]

You know, it's very sweet that you chase the old lady around to pull her pigtails. It's charming honestly, especially for a gritty city boy like you.

I've said here many times observe behavior. People will always show you who they are. You just have to be objective & observe.

That's all vetting boils down to.

^^
The real question is why hasn't anyone taken this crazy cat lady to the Vet and had her euthanized for her own good.

 

[Cactus]

Einstein says for you to comprehend my answer, you need to comprehend this question:

Are all women woven of the same LTR quality--or--are some women better LTR candidates than others?

How about instead of hiring a photographer to take hundreds of photos of yourself to use the best ones to dumpster dive on pof, why don't you ask the professional paid judges of photofeeler app to make an honest and trustworthy decision on a woman's LTR quality based off her picture.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

And since when does "society" take men's side on ANYTHING? What evidence do you have the married women are LESS likely to cheat. That is 100% pure Grade-A horse sh*t.

If a woman cheats on her husband is the man's fault. Not hers. That's how "society" acts.

Dude, pull your head out of the blue pill sand lol.

Lmao no it’s not dude. Look all around you. The woman who cheats will try to rationalize it into you fault. But at first glance situation no way in hell. A man who ****s a ton of women is still in a much higher standing than a woman who ****s a lot of men. And in marriage, the vows are still weighted upon by society. Whether they’re honored or not is a whole other story, but it’s still the highest value of ‘love’ one can give. Meaningless to men really, but not to women. Men pursue sex. Women pursue relationships. And what is the highest level of a relationship?

I’ll leave that for you to answer.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

^^
The real question is why hasn't anyone taken this crazy cat lady to the Vet and had her euthanized for her own good.

Because the mods and a lot of the other guys are all in love with her since she subtly says how great she is while trying to make it seem like she’s being humble. Those who can detect it are the men who truly think for themselves. You can see who the real dimwits are by those who are wowed by her.

Ahhh, how I love my youthful testosterone. The ability it gives me to think for myself more than even these SS ‘veterans’ is very pleasing indeed.

 

[Cactus]

Because the mods and a lot of the other guys are all in love with her since she subtly says how great she is while trying to make it seem like she’s being humble. Those who can detect it are the men who truly think for themselves. You can see who the real dimwits are by those who are wowed by her.

Ahhh, how I love my youthful testosterone. The ability it gives me to think for myself more than even these SS ‘veterans’ is very pleasing indeed.

BeDivorced is a "chick" with a dyck acting as "her" own fluffer giving herself jolly good reach arounds in every post.

What woman hangs out in an all male forum and instead of bragging about her mans accomplishments instead brags about her own as if she IS a man in locker room dyck measuring contests.

Methinks BeDivorced is a heshe A.K.A a shim.

 

[Serenity]

Do you want to eventually get married? If so.. why?

Yes. Because lower tax, almost no risk, we love each other and haven't had an issue for over 2 years yet. Can't really find a reason not to.

 

[Tenacity]

I've said here many times observe behavior. People will always show you who they are. You just have to be objective & observe.

That's all vetting boils down to.

Yet, with all due respect, you yourself was unable to do this with your ex-husband. Yet, you are still promoting this concept that someone can properly "vet" another person? People change, people lie, people put on fronts, and people do an assortment of things. There's no way to "vet" someone efficiently when it comes to marriage. No way to do it. All you can do is filter for MAJOR things that might STAND OUT, but if the stuff doesn't stand out (because it's being hidden properly), then you can't "filter it".

 

[Urbanyst]

Lmao no it’s not dude. Look all around you. The woman who cheats will try to rationalize it into you fault. But at first glance situation no way in hell. A man who ****s a ton of women is still in a much higher standing than a woman who ****s a lot of men. And in marriage, the vows are still weighted upon by society. Whether they’re honored or not is a whole other story, but it’s still the highest value of ‘love’ one can give. Meaningless to men really, but not to women. Men pursue sex. Women pursue relationships. And what is the highest level of a relationship?

I’ll leave that for you to answer.

Where do you live?

What you posted was probably true in the 1980's. You need to catch up.

 

[Urbanyst]

You know, it's very sweet that you chase the old lady around to pull her pigtails. It's charming honestly, especially for a gritty city boy like you.

I've said here many times observe behavior. People will always show you who they are. You just have to be objective & observe.

That's all vetting boils down to.

LOL. Chasing you around and pulling your pigtails? Don't read too much into it.

BeExcellent.. don't forget most of us here are talking about WOMEN UNDER 30. This age bracket has the potential to CHANGE dramatically in values and priorities. You would never understand because you're in your 40's and probably dating men in their 60's.

How do you explain this woman my friend dated a few years back who was a hard core traditional "Conservative" and turned into a hard core Liberal two years later and cheated on him? What "vetting" could of predicted a total personality change?

 

[Urbanyst]

Einstein says for you to comprehend my answer, you need to comprehend this question:

Are all women woven of the same LTR quality--or--are some women better LTR candidates than others?

Of course some women are better LTR material than others.

However, that does not guarantee anything due to variable CHANGE and the fact that women under 30 are more unpredictable than other ages. It also doesn't make a CONTRACT with them necessary (or smart). I'm still waiting for you to explain why a CONTRACT is smart. SMART is the main word to focus on. Don't care about how it "feels" for you. Why is it SMART?

Can you answer that?

Nope lol.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

LOL. Chasing you around and pulling your pigtails? Don't read too much into it.

BeExcellent.. don't forget most of us here are talking about WOMEN UNDER 30. This age bracket has the potential to CHANGE dramatically in values and priorities. You would never understand because you're in your 40's and probably dating men in their 60's.

How do you explain this woman my friend dated a few years back who was a hard core traditional "Conservative" and turned into a hard core Liberal two years later and cheated on him? What "vetting" could of predicted a total personality change?

It's a good point. As an older guy I can attest to the fact that people change. Some of them do not age well at all.

The woman you marry may simply cease to exist physically, mentally and emotionally 30 years down the road.

My ex and my best friend's ex are an example. They were both cute and positive 30 years ago. Now? Both of them are total train wrecks.

As the years go by, we each show the other current pics of our exes. And it's always "Jesus, you are so lucky to not be with that hag anymore. ".

Then we go bang our younger happy women.

-Augustus-

 

[Tenacity]

It's a good point. As an older guy I can attest to the fact that people change. Some of them do not age well at all.

The woman you marry may simply cease to exist physically, mentally and emotionally 30 years down the road.

My ex and my best friend's ex are an example. They were both cute and positive 30 years ago. Now? Both of them are total train wrecks.

As the years go by, we each show the other current pics of our exes. And it's always "Jesus, you are so lucky to not be with that hag anymore. ".

Then we go bang our younger happy women.

-Augustus-

LOL. Chasing you around and pulling your pigtails? Don't read too much into it.

BeExcellent.. don't forget most of us here are talking about WOMEN UNDER 30. This age bracket has the potential to CHANGE dramatically in values and priorities. You would never understand because you're in your 40's and probably dating men in their 60's.

How do you explain this woman my friend dated a few years back who was a hard core traditional "Conservative" and turned into a hard core Liberal two years later and cheated on him? What "vetting" could of predicted a total personality change?

Excellent points, which is why I keep wondering why @guru1000 and @BeExcellent keep promoting this "vet properly" campaign.....as if this is even ANY efficient method or procedure to successfully vet someone like that, for this particular purpose?

A girl I'm marrying today in 2017 at age 26 is going to be a completely different chick at age 46 in 2037. Now that's just a fact. The reason marriage worked well in PRIOR times, was because roles were properly established and based again, like I've said, on survival. So it didn't matter that the woman was getting older, her role was clearly established and set in place.

Today, there are no established roles and the relationships are not based on survival. In other words, the woman you marry in 2017 and the MARRIAGE YOU HAVE in 2017, can be both completely different damn things come 2024 or 2027. Completely different damn things.

There's absolutely no way to "vet" anyone in this landscape like that. And what's even more funny, is @BeExcellent is promoting this "vet properly" campaign and she was unable to "vet" her ex-husband properly, which is why the loser (sorry, he's a loser) gets to sit on his a.ss FOR LIFE and collect free residual checks from her.

 

[guru1000]

Of course some women are better LTR material than others.

Well I'm glad you recognize this. At least one active member in this thread believes all women are the same and there is no difference between a hooker and good LTR material!

At least, you're logical. Well ... until I read this:

How do you explain this woman my friend dated a few years back who was a hard core traditional "Conservative" and turned into a hard core Liberal two years later and cheated on him? What "vetting" could of predicted a total personality change?

However, that does not guarantee anything due to variable CHANGE and the fact that women under 30 are more unpredictable than other ages. It also doesn't make a CONTRACT with them necessary (or smart). I'm still waiting for you to explain why a CONTRACT is smart. SMART is the main word to focus on. Don't care about how it "feels" for you. Why is it SMART?

Can you answer that?

Let's begin with the bolded fallacy:

Can change <> Will likely change

Your and others' positions are why vet, when people can change anyway. This is the most imprudent strategy one can use to govern their life. If we assume that people will change anyway, then why:

Vet your business partner for his ethical background. Just partner up with Bernie Madoff. Because an ethical partner could turn into a cheat and steal your business capital anyway;

Vet your investors. Who cares if they don't have enough capital to service your business now. This can change and they can be well capitalized in the future and fund your business then.

Vet your friends. Who cares if he is a heroine addict who steals from his mother. He has a good heart and he can change in the future and be trusted.

Vet your clients. Who cares if he doesn't have enough money to pay you now. He may change and become liquid later, and pay you then.

Vet your debtors. Who cares if he doesn't have a good credit score and doesn't pay his debts. He may change and become a good-paying consumer then.

Why can't you obtain a mortgage if your credit score is 500?

What can't you obtain credit cards if your credit score is 500?

Why can't you obtain business loans if your credit score is 500?

It's called vetting. This is what SMART people and institutions do to properly mitigate--not entirely eliminate--their downside.

You guys who don't promote vetting seem like you have no working brains in your head. And I say this in the most diplomatic way

 

[Serenity]

How do you explain this woman my friend dated a few years back who was a hard core traditional "Conservative" and turned into a hard core Liberal two years later and cheated on him?

Isn't it common knowledge that someone with unnaturally conservative values are actually just repressed as fvck? They always flip hard at some point. Women having very strong opinions about anything should be a red flag, your friend could easily have been aware of this. He is aware now and so are you, for every failure we learn how to better succeed. Every mistake you make vetting is a mistake you won't make again.

You'd think there's infinite possibility for how women can mess you up, but really it's just the same few commonly known things over and over. Things you can recognize early if you're willing to learn the early warning signs.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

BeDivorced is a "chick" with a dyck acting as "her" own fluffer giving herself jolly good reach arounds in every post.

What woman hangs out in an all male forum and instead of bragging about her mans accomplishments instead brags about her own as if she IS a man in locker room dyck measuring contests.

Methinks BeDivorced is a heshe A.K.A a shim.

“Oh me and my ex are both VERY honorable people. He signed a crappy deal because I schmoozed him into it because I knew that he was still deathly in love with me.”
Yeah, very honorable my ass. She’s the type of ho who we say to avoid on here because she will fvcking you over, and yet these retards can’t see through it. None of them even saw it the way that I did until just a couple seconds ago—HA! Some of these guys have even been divorced and screwed over before too. Pathetic. Getting educated by a teenager on marriage. LOL

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Where do you live?

What you posted was probably true in the 1980's. You need to catch up.

Planet Earth. We don’t seem to share that one commonality though.

You don’t have any more arguments either.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Isn't it common knowledge that someone with unnaturally conservative values are actually just repressed as fvck? They always flip hard at some point. Women having very strong opinions about anything should be a red flag, your friend could easily have been aware of this. He is aware now and so are you, for every failure we learn how to better succeed. Every mistake you make vetting is a mistake you won't make again.

You'd think there's infinite possibility for how women can mess you up, but really it's just the same few commonly known things over and over. Things you can recognize early if you're willing to learn the early warning signs.

There’s actually a phrase to describe the characteristic you are talking about. It’s called: “half-decent social skills”. Yet another reason furthering the proof that most guys on here are social retards.

 

[The Duke]

Vet all you want, there are no guarantees. You are delusional for thinking that way, but proceed as you wish.

For man, marriage is a legal contract on a depreciating asset that has about a 50% chance of failure with a court system acting in the woman's favor when it does fail.

Now how many of you would make a business deal with those kind of odds? Forget the fact that women are highly emotional/irrational and frequently act on whims. You guys are trying to make rational decisions based on the behavior of an irrational animal.

The only way it works is when you take opportunity away from women. That means no income, no social media, etc. Its the reason it worked in 1955. There also needs to be social sanctions in place for women who don't honor marriage vows and have multiple partners. They all need a scarlet letter "A" burned on their forehead if they don't act as they should. Women are too emotional to deal with temptation properly, that's why you have to remove the temptation in the first place. The majority don't have the discipline to keep themselves in check.

I vetted my exwife for 9yrs before I married her and we were married for almost 5yrs. 95% of the time was very good. Guess what happened......she started making more money, moved up to management, got in the gym and got that body looking fine, then found some other dude to get attention from. And to this day I am #1 on her High Score List, I have no doubts and she has admitted it. Once she realized she fuhked up and I was never coming back, she got fat and depressed and had to go to a shrink. She would leave her current husband if I told her I would take her back.

My last live in girlfriend demanded marriage after 5yrs and left me because I wouldn't give in on her time table. She regretted that after her irrational emotions settled.

See the trend here? Women do stupid things when they let their emotions dictate their actions. And it always leads to regret.

I'm not willing to put my financial life in jeopardy for a piece of pu$$y that may or may not cause me financial harm. If I have to trade them out every 5yrs because they leave me after I deny them marriage, then that is what I will do. And that's what happened with the last one. She also now realizes how stupid she was.