Where are these "other guys" meeting LTR material women--The Million dollar question we all have!

[Fruitbat]

Very different in asia. Hence I got an Asian woman.
Their social circle is their family basically and they generally don’t care jack about your friend group. They want a guy who is solidly committed to their family and that’s it.

they would actually see a large social circle as a disadvantage except for a business circle. In which case they would support you all the way in that. I can take a weekend away no problem with business colleagues and they don’t care much what you’re doing provided you come home, and continue being a contributor in all ways to the family.

I lost a social circle post divorce and worried a lot with my new wife she would see how isolated I was. Turns out she has no interest in any social circle outside family and would rather I didn’t bother.

Being honest I live in a super liberal city and I don’t like a lot of the people here. I have a few social groups, I have a golf group, a networking group and a football group. What I don’t enjoy is the kind of dinner party clique, I basically like male company with a purpose like golf. I don’t like sitting around conversing and invariably drinking and doing coke. I’ve done that too much.

Back to the question, I dont envy half the people I see with a “hot” western girl, I know what that entails and for whatever reason I don’t enjoy that lifestyle. I like a close family unit and I never want a woman who goes out drinking, or has a circle of western girls all divorcing their husbands and watching trash TV.

In this culture people will look down on me for choosing an Asian gal but I’m far happier now than I’ve ever been. I might not have been like this at 25 but in my 40s it’s great. I’m long past wanting to have any sort of exciting social lifestyle and have seen what kind of future awaits men with western wives. I know there are exceptions but on the whole, they don’t seem to be happy.

 

[BaronOfHair]

"Where are these "other guys" meeting LTR material women--The Million dollar question we all have!"

Out in the fresh air, I.E. Anywhere that's not in front of their keyboards

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As I’ve said before : most men overestimate their SMV pretty severely, this board is not immune to this disease.

 

[Gamisch]

For the longest Pua community and this community scoffed at the notion of social circle
WHy? my thoughts is cause most guys who wanted to bang away ha ha, however I noticed RSD changing their stance on it several years ago but even the "Social Circle Game" they were pushing was superficial and not realastic (Get a group of guys and buy bottles every weekend BORING)
For me I always wanted one,not for the sake of banging chicks but to be around like minded invividuals like myself. I have build social circles from scratch/intergrated myself into one etc rise and repeat. These weren't dorks but fly guys who had local clout, some had bread, some had looks and clout but BROKE, some had money and status but no looks etc. I wanted to surround myself with successfull, motivated invidiuals. Just a word of warning some social circles can be competitive this is why vetting the group is important for you as well.

It's not easy to do espeically once you're 30+ Most guys don't want to do it cause let's be honest it's hard work. Honestly I don't blame them, lot of people out there who only want to hang with ya because of what you can do for them and not because they may rock with you for real. However IMO it's easier to do than hitting the damn club every weekend hoping to get a ONS.

From personal experince I've gone on dates with or dated women would would have never giving me the time of day in bars/clubs. Also Social circles you're pre-vetted you're not a number like on swipe apps or some stranger hitting on her at the bar. Don't build or intergate yourself into a social circle hoping to bang chicks, you should do it because you sincerely enjoy being around a group of people eventually if it's a group of quality people, you will meet a shorty that's LTR material although it's not always the case or guranteed.

Never was a fan of "PUA social circles" you know where a bunch of guys meet up every weekend to "Sarge" those never worked out for me because a lot of PUA dudes are weirods lol

I agree.

This is LONG TERM and steady game. Not specifically aimed at women but at one self. This is what I mean when I say you should live a lifestyle for YOU, and as a great side effect you can meet like minded women. I

Why you hit the gym is the best example. A man must find a place where he starts hitting the gym rather functional and for himself than just to show off to women.

Gotta stop chasing that damn dragon and use that energy to do bigger things. Take the lead, organize something, get people together and be on the road. Wished I would see this type of advice more often.

 

[Gamisch]

I think that maybe, just maybe, you're a bit too obsessed about length and body, both of yourself and other men, and maybe that gets into your vibe / energy, spoiling your interactions with women.

The mind is way harder to reshape than the body.

Dude is the perfect example of this. Its easy to neglect that part while you complain blame "the man".

For one, if you truly believe that you check all boxes it's time to adress your PERSONALITY. Being friendlier, more open, less tough guy ect will go a long ,long way.

 

[Manure Spherian]

For the longest Pua community and this community scoffed at the notion of social circle
WHy? my thoughts is cause most guys who wanted to bang away ha ha, however I noticed RSD changing their stance on it several years ago but even the "Social Circle Game" they were pushing was superficial and not realastic (Get a group of guys and buy bottles every weekend BORING)
For me I always wanted one,not for the sake of banging chicks but to be around like minded invividuals like myself. I have build social circles from scratch/intergrated myself into one etc rise and repeat. These weren't dorks but fly guys who had local clout, some had bread, some had looks and clout but BROKE, some had money and status but no looks etc. I wanted to surround myself with successfull, motivated invidiuals. Just a word of warning some social circles can be competitive this is why vetting the group is important for you as well.

It's not easy to do espeically once you're 30+ Most guys don't want to do it cause let's be honest it's hard work. Honestly I don't blame them, lot of people out there who only want to hang with ya because of what you can do for them and not because they may rock with you for real. However IMO it's easier to do than hitting the damn club every weekend hoping to get a ONS.

From personal experince I've gone on dates with or dated women would would have never giving me the time of day in bars/clubs. Also Social circles you're pre-vetted you're not a number like on swipe apps or some stranger hitting on her at the bar. Don't build or intergate yourself into a social circle hoping to bang chicks, you should do it because you sincerely enjoy being around a group of people eventually if it's a group of quality people, you will meet a shorty that's LTR material although it's not always the case or guranteed.

Never was a fan of "PUA social circles" you know where a bunch of guys meet up every weekend to "Sarge" those never worked out for me because a lot of PUA dudes are weirods lol

My guess is that most men want to believe they have power and merit in all important affairs, including the sexual market. Their success will be or was earned, whereas an average man who met his woman didn’t “put in the work,” and “didn’t earn it.”

 

[Manure Spherian]

My guess is that most men want to believe they have power and merit in all important affairs, including the sexual market. Their success will be or was earned, whereas an average man who met his woman didn’t “put in the work,” and “didn’t earn it.”

It’s similar to people who get hung up on the topic of self made.

“That guy is loaded.”

“Yeah, but like, he’s not self made. He had rich patents. He’s not self-made. He didn’t earn it.” Lol.

 

[member162951]

The venue where you meet doesn't matter, it could be anywhere, the "where" doesn't matter.

It's "how" you interact with her when you DO meet. It could be the gym, a party, a bar, the street! I agree online isn't ideal but know long term couples who have.

Up your "Game" for lack of a better word, improve your social skills, stay in great shape, show confidence and act naturally, not like you're intentionally trying to "pick her up."
That can come off as contrived and forced.

And learn timing, when it's right to approach. it's not always and when it's not, you're more likely to get rejected.

Wait for her to show IOIs, versus being a goon and immediately showing your hand. Lol

$.02 and I'm female btw.

 

[member162951]

I got one LTR because she got stuck in an elevator by chance and I kept her from panicking.

I met my recent boyfriend in an elevator! His big dog jumped on me, we started chatting and laughing and he asked me to meet him that night for a drink!

It was all very natural and spontaneous which are the best types of meets imo!

 

[Fruitbat]

I think that maybe, just maybe, you're a bit too obsessed about length and body, both of yourself and other men, and maybe that gets into your vibe / energy, spoiling your interactions with women.

My guess is social skills.

I’ve been confirmed overweight in these situations and done incredibly well as I can chat shyt to anyone.

my favourite chat up was to ask a girl “I bet you £5 I can touch your teeets without moving my hands”

girl accepts

I just straight up feel her teets and hand her £5.

if you have the frame and social skills you can make this sound fun and not like a creepy rpist

maybe things have changed now but this was a-ok for me up to 2008

 

[Bingo-Player]

How old are you and what age women you're going for?

32

I usually date women like 23-28 thats my range

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Everywhere...I keep telling people that if you just take advantage of opportunities while you are out and about going about your day to day life you will do far better than if you set up times to go out and "hunt" for women or only try while out at bars or clubs.

You will come across as more natural, more congruent with your true self and you'll be more relaxed. Just let it happen and go with the flow.

So the answer is...they are meeting them everywhere. They just take advantage of opportunities that are right in front of your face that you aren't even seeing because you aren't focused on it at that time.

Sometimes social circles can be a great place too, especially in your early to mid twenties when people aren't married yet.

 

[itouchyou]

I don't think social circle or money matters at all if a guy is a complete package. I think women can intuitively tell based on how a guy speaks and behaves, whether he has a social circle or not.

My roommate back in college was a GDI. He'd bang some hot, HOT women, some from sororities, some just from randomly approaching. He wasn't meeting these women through friends, wasn't meeting them by proving he had any status.

What made it work for him
1) 6'0'' & jacked. He was a fat **** initially but cut down 80lbs in one go, then bulked up about 40lbs. He ended at about 6'0'' 190lbs lean, and his arms looked like tree trunks. 16.5" lean arms without flexing.
2) Solid face
3) Charisma/game <-- this was huge. To this day I don't know of anyone as witty as he is.

He'd bang women very quickly and pretty much every time, they'd try to rope him into a relationship and he'd just bail. Lmao

 

[Bokanovsky]

Yet most of the time when I'm going to meet women or approaching single women of the same standard IRL at some stage I will usually get a comment like " wish you were a little taller " maybe not a dealbreaker but I definitely feel like from there I have an uphill battle and it can become wearing

Think of the girls you've dated in the past. You probably wouldn't have minded if their t!ts were a little bigger and firmer and if their @sses were a little rounder.

At the end of the day, it's 50% proximity and 50% other factors. A 5'10 guy in her social circle will win over a 6'4 guy she has never met.

 

[Solomon]

My guess is that most men want to believe they have power and merit in all important affairs, including the sexual market. Their success will be or was earned, whereas an average man who met his woman didn’t “put in the work,” and “didn’t earn it.”

BINGO

It always irked me that the RP/This forum&RP Youtubers (espeically Blackpillers)have an underlying disdain for Chad/Tyrone or Bruce Lee. I think a lot of guys who don't get it may be on the autistic side. Not trying to talk down but in life, some people are going to have it easier than others. No reason to cry about it like a victimbitch, as a man you have to find a solution to your problem! Women are not some algebra formula that you can hack, yes I know people taught Mystery figured it out but half of the Mystery Method was overkill keyboard mumbo jumbo nonsense. Heck even Rollo overthinks it a lot of times as well. Back in 2006 I was super naive when it came to women. I saw how women treat and act around the men they truly desire(buying men drinks, having 3somes, giving men thousands of dollars) and I watched them and emulated them. However, they couldn't explain negging, mindset, etc to me. You have to understand these guys have been getting positive feedback not only from women but society since they were in elementary school. How do you explain something to a person you have been doing naturally since you were 6 years old? These guys figured it out at an early age and the positive feedback loop reinforces this. This is why finding this forum in 2008 really helped me grow with my charisma, body language, MINDSET, not being thirsty etc. The forum explained to me what my natural buddies were doing with ease and effortlessly. Where me as a naive dork at the time would throw up some shyt and sometimes it stuck a lot of times it didn't. Meaning sometimes I got the girl a lot of times I didn't cause I was a needy simp

Fast Forward in 2024 now you see the mainstream trying to push "Body positivity"(for women) and shame "Pretty privilege" The world has always been this way. You're not going to tell men and women what they should and shouldn't be attracted too, who da eff wants to lay up with lizzo? Looks, Money, Charisma and Status the one you can improve the easiest and fastest is your look. By Look I'm not just talking about your physique by hitting the gym but also your dress style. Have you stepped outside lately? lotta dudes can't dress for crap lol

I don't think social circle or money matters at all if a guy is a complete package. I think women can intuitively tell based on how a guy speaks and behaves, whether he has a social circle or not.

My roommate back in college was a GDI. He'd bang some hot, HOT women, some from sororities, some just from randomly approaching. He wasn't meeting these women through friends, wasn't meeting them by proving he had any status.

What made it work for him
1) 6'0'' & jacked. He was a fat **** initially but cut down 80lbs in one go, then bulked up about 40lbs. He ended at about 6'0'' 190lbs lean, and his arms looked like tree trunks. 16.5" lean arms without flexing.
2) Solid face
3) Charisma/game <-- this was huge. To this day I don't know of anyone as witty as he is.

He'd bang women very quickly and pretty much every time, they'd try to rope him into a relationship and he'd just bail. Lmao

Yup Number 3 is so important, a lot of guys don't have the charisma or understand how to have witty flirty banter with a woman. I gotta buddy who is average in looks but he knows how to flirt his a$$ off and has banged some hot chicks. Lotta RP/PUA guys try to approach women logically and that's where they fail. I know my witty banter isn't as good as it was in my 20s but that's one thing that helped when I was on the prowl a lot in my early sosuave/Game journey

Another thing I would add is a Positive or Happy Go Lucky Mindset when it comes to normal guys who pull a lot or get hot girls. I have hung out with some PUA guys (not just from this forum but others I met in public) and some of them have toxic as hell mindsets due to past rejection and trauma when it comes to women. Some of those guys were very good-looking (Lower Tier Brad's/Tyrone, no flamingo) However their negative mindsets held them back from the success they sought and make no mistake women are like dogs they pick up on the "Vibes" like a 6th sense. There are some guys who really need to shift their mindset. For me that was a major factor beyond losing weight or making more money was shifting my mindset and learn to be more positive and accept the things I can control and the things I can't. To view each failure, each rejection, each bad date as a learning opportunity to improve. I became obsessed and that obsession helped me out a lot, it's the same drive now I'm using to improve my business. Mindset is the most important because it affects your confidence, verbal-non nonverbal communication I.e. Body language etc. How you talk/view women etc

 

[halfguard]

I know gyms are not good places either (unless you take a class), but it would always be good if you can run into some of these attractive women you see at the gym outside of the gym. You can do an approach and be like "excuse me? I think we go to the same gym. It might backfire, but it's a good opener.

This works. Even better if you're already sort of friendly with her at the gym.

 

[Bigpapa]

At the end of the day, it's 50% proximity and 50% other factors. A 5'10 guy in her social circle will win over a 6'4 guy she has never met.

True, but we have to make a distinction between LTR and actually be desired by a girl

LTR more often than not has nothing to do with the girl desiring the guy and girls due to ego issues will stay with a guy ( most of the times in a sh1tty relationship for the guy ) only because she knows that very likely he will never leave her, while she can do what she pleases

 

[MatureDJ]

The Million Dollar Question

The answer to the question is the question to the answer ...

 

[MatureDJ]

At birthday parties...

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What an absolute tramp Hannah Montana turned into.

 

[MatureDJ]

Kilograms? Are you in Europe?

It's only the stupid Americans that can't figure out the metric system.