Where are these "other guys" meeting LTR material women--The Million dollar question we all have!

[MatureDJ]

Never was a fan of "PUA social circles" you know where a bunch of guys meet up every weekend to "Sarge" those never worked out for me because a lot of PUA dudes are weirods lol

I remember going to a PUA meetup back in the early '00s. Everyone there was 5'6" or shorter.

 

[MatureDJ]

My guess is social skills.

I’ve been confirmed overweight in these situations and done incredibly well as I can chat shyt to anyone.

my favourite chat up was to ask a girl “I bet you £5 I can touch your teeets without moving my hands”

girl accepts

I just straight up feel her teets and hand her £5.

if you have the frame and social skills you can make this sound fun and not like a creepy rpist

maybe things have changed now but this was a-ok for me up to 2008

I'll have to add that to my repertoire.

 

[MatureDJ]

As I’ve said before : most men overestimate their SMV pretty severely, this board is not immune to this disease.

It's OVER for SMVOverestimatingCels.

 

[oc16]

It's only the stupid Americans that can't figure out the metric system.

You must be French

 

[Desdinova]

According to @Desdinova, you have to scoop a girl from a stale LTR that she's no longer satisfied with in order to get into another LTR, otherwise, there's probably a reason they are single right?

The point is, you need to be competitive. If you encounter a remotely attractive single woman, every horny guy within her radius is going to be hitting on her. What makes YOU stand out from the others?

Given the AFC, it is easy to lure a woman away from another man because she already knows he's a boring pushover who got comfortable in the relationship. Competing with other men she doesn't know is more difficult which is why we use tactics like kino, jealousy, push/pull, teasing, social status, etc. I've stolen women from other guys and have had women cheat on their man with me. Trust me, it's way easier getting her to wh0re around on her existing guy. You're also not only the first guy in line to take his place, but you're likely the only guy in line.

Pickup isn't black or white as you perceive it. Pickup is a numbers game.

 

[Desdinova]

For me I always wanted one,not for the sake of banging chicks but to be around like minded invividuals like myself. I have build social circles from scratch/intergrated myself into one etc rise and repeat. These weren't dorks but fly guys who had local clout, some had bread, some had looks and clout but BROKE, some had money and status but no looks etc. I wanted to surround myself with successfull, motivated invidiuals. Just a word of warning some social circles can be competitive this is why vetting the group is important for you as well.

Social circles are fantastic. They're even better if you can get the whole circle talking about YOU. Any women who are brought into the social circle are going to non-stop hear things that YOU did or YOU said. I have lays that directly benefitted from having social circles.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Women are social animals and they can discern between someone being alone by choice or being lonely. Although I sometimes have company when I'm walking around, most of the time I walk alone but nobody would ever think I'm lonely.

It’s simpler than that. If a woman finds you fvckable, she’ll assume you have, or could have am SO. I was at a house party & making out with a girl. At one point she asked me ;’how come you don’t have a girlfriend?’

 

[zekko]

If you are speaking of LTRs, the three main components that go into a woman's decision are the following and in this order:

1. Social proof (connections and ability to influence others)
2. Money
3. Looks

I think the main factor on whether or not the girl is good for LTRs is whether she's a raging wh0re or not.
Now that's not the last filter to cross, but it starts there.

 

[corrector]

The point is, you need to be competitive. If you encounter a remotely attractive single woman, every horny guy within her radius is going to be hitting on her. What makes YOU stand out from the others?

Given the AFC, it is easy to lure a woman away from another man because she already knows he's a boring pushover who got comfortable in the relationship. Competing with other men she doesn't know is more difficult which is why we use tactics like kino, jealousy, push/pull, teasing, social status, etc. I've stolen women from other guys and have had women cheat on their man with me. Trust me, it's way easier getting her to wh0re around on her existing guy. You're also not only the first guy in line to take his place, but you're likely the only guy in line.

Pickup isn't black or white as you perceive it. Pickup is a numbers game.

That is your style and if that works for you then you do you. You have an 8 year girlfriend out of it. However, it requires that you subscribe to a certain ethics/morality that I don't think everyone is going to sign up for, especially for more inexperienced/newbies who are taking baby steps and others who have just have standards against that type of thing (ie if she's unfaithful to him, then she could be unfaithful to you too and is not a keeper). Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it. Then where do you draw the line? Suppose the woman is married and has a family but it's the only woman you have chemistry with and is excited about you and is willing to divorce-rape her hubby, tear up her family, and then enter a marriage with you, would you at least draw a line in the sand there? You could use the same logic..her husband is an AFC who got comfortable and you have no competition. Even you have to have limits.

 

[Desdinova]

However, it requires that you subscribe to a certain ethics/morality that I don't think everyone is going to sign up for

Why do you need to hold yourself to a certain level of ethics/morality when women couldn't give a fvck about ethics/morality? The nature of the woman is to find her soulmate, and she'll throw any other man under the bus if she thinks she's onto "the one". Women believe in 5hit like destiny, and if their emotional buttons are pushed enough, she'll believe she's stumbled onto it.

especially for more inexperienced/newbies who are taking baby steps and others who have just have standards against that type of thing (ie if she's unfaithful to him, then she could be unfaithful to you too and is not a keeper).

Let me tell you this... A good 80-90% of adult women are NOT keepers. You know what else? Most women are on their best behavior in the first 6-9 months of a relationship. If you want a "keeper", you're gonna have to filter through these women as quickly as possible. You're not going to successfully screen a "keeper" on the first meeting. You essentially have to throw darts and hope you get a bullseye. If you've never thrown darts, then you need to practice in order to have ANY HOPE of hitting the bullseye. So what if these women are unfaithful? Dating her means that you've just gotten a little bit better at throwing darts. Once you realize you didn't hit the bullseye, then you throw another dart.

What you're doing is making sure you have a dart that is new, sharp, and that you have a clue on what the rules are for playing darts. However, every time you throw one, it lands on the ground because you don't practice and every other player clobbers you in the game.

Then where do you draw the line? Suppose the woman is married and has a family but it's the only woman you have chemistry with and is excited about you and is willing to divorce-rape her hubby, tear up her family, and then enter a marriage with you, would you at least draw a line in the sand there?

First of all, I've had chemistry with multiple women. You don't marry the first one you have chemistry with. As for divorce raping her hubby and wrecking her family, that's her decision. All I've done is made her realize that she's not happy with her choice in a husband. Also, if she's been married or has been alpha-widowed, then she's not marriage material. Again, she falls into that 80-90% of damaged trash that you throw away.

Even you have to have limits.

My limit is to not marry trash. Everything before that is fair game.

As for taking "baby steps", it looks like you've been taking them since 2009. When I joined this site back in 2001, I went out and fvcked up multiple times. Two steps forward, one step back. It took me about a year before I found myself successfully dating a woman that I had cold approached. And then I started dating a SECOND one. That was the moment I knew I was doing something right because I suddenly had an abundance of women... I had TWO while most other schmucks had one or less. If I could have given myself an award at any point in my life, that would have been the moment.

 

[jhonny9546]

You have to understand these guys have been getting positive feedback not only from women but society since they were in elementary school. How do you explain something to a person you have been doing naturally since you were 6 years old? These guys figured it out at an early age and the positive feedback loop reinforces this

This is me until 12

 

[SW15]

It mostly does come down to social circle and factors outside one's control. Tech-based methods and approaching strangers in real life are quite inefficient, even in the cases where they do effectively produce an LTR.

The initial post from @oc16 was mostly accurate and @sangheilios made a strong supporting argument about a lot of it coming down to luck too.

It is frustrating for a lot of men to put in a lot of effort and not get a lot in the way of results. That does happen with many men.

 

[Dr.Suave]

@oc16
I am convinced we have an issue in society where a good number of men are perpetually frustrated in the dating market and have nothing to show for their efforts. Meanwhile, there are guys who got lucky finding a decent girl to enter into a relationship with, which in turn takes her off of the market. This basically only leaves literal leftovers and women that are excessively fussy/picky, which makes things even more difficult for the men already struggling or frustrated.

Agree

 

[jhonny9546]

That's when you stopped being a cute kid and became an annoying teenager.

I stopped grow, and I've started to be seen as different (pigmalione)