What is the matrix?

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Last Man Standing said:
This is what people spit out because this is what they were told to say!! That the mass media influences and creates reality is obvious by all those who listen to music and watch tv and listen to the radio etc. This forum is a perfect example by the many here embracing the hor and homo as natural and good, when in fact, they are perversions of themselves!!! This is due to the mass media cultural and societal influence of the last 50 years - corrupting minds!!!!

The mass media tells us who and what is beautiful or ugly and who is good and who is bad - they tell us what to wear and what not to wear - what to eat and what drugs to take, what to see, and who to believe and who to not believe - what is true and what is a lie!!! The Matrix is real and the few who own the mass media have an agenda based on a lie - the creators of illusions!!!!!!

It is Mind Control!!!!

Watch this..a warning given to us 30 years ago in a movie called Network... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
You are psychotic.

You're the type to go on a psychotic rampage through a shopping mall.

Get a grip.
 
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wjh said:
You are psychotic.

You're the type to go on a psychotic rampage through a shopping mall.

Get a grip.
Let me guess - you are a homo??
 

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Last Man Standing said:
The Matrix is a lie. so embedded into our institutions and lives. intended and in place to keep you from the truth of knowing reality, and have you believe that perception (the LIE) is reality!!!

Here is a perfect example of The Matrix in this thread.....


This is what people spit out because this is what they were told to say!! That the mass media influences and creates reality is obvious by all those who listen to music and watch tv and listen to the radio etc. This forum is a perfect example by the many here embracing the hor and homo as natural and good, when in fact, they are perversions of themselves!!! This is due to the mass media cultural and societal influence of the last 50 years - corrupting minds!!!!

The mass media tells us who and what is beautiful or ugly and who is good and who is bad - they tell us what to wear and what not to wear - what to eat and what drugs to take, what to see, and who to believe and who to not believe - what is true and what is a lie!!! The Matrix is real and the few who own the mass media have an agenda based on a lie - the creators of illusions!!!!!!

It is Mind Control!!!!

Watch this..a warning given to us 30 years ago in a movie called Network... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
LMS is correct.

Take an example here:

High School, what are kids discussing?

The new trendy mobile phone, the new 'gap' jeans, in my day it was the Reebok trainers, the addidas, the Levi’s and the Nike Air Jordan’s.

We are influenced by our role models, we are influenced by our groups think mentality, we are influenced by our need to conform to the 'herd'.

This is the 'power' of the media.

What better way then to USE THIS VERY SITE:

The matrix, media and the connection with SS:
Looks, money, education e.t.c, are examples of matrix control, that is further evidenced in this very forum:

(what is SS control: Women, the desire to meet women, but your values on what is important to women have been CORRUPTED, hence why this site is needed, the problem is when the SITE KEEPS THE CORRUPTION HAS AN AGENDA).

The media and SS: (SS can do it in a positive way, the media does it in a consumer way) The media will put 'pop' stars, movie stars e.t.c in advertising, HELL YOU FUC*ING VOTED IN Ronald Regan and Arnold Swartzeniger (due to there popularity of there 'adverts' and 'films'), this influences the 'sheep' to go out and 'consume' the 'product' the famous person is showing:

This is every-where:

another example:

Bias:

Ron Paul, lets go back to this angle again, where is the bias here?

Where is it?

Is it not clear? does he get the same 'exposure' has all the other candidates, even though his popularity is on the increase? does he? Is this not a form of media control?

Ok lets dig fuc*ing deeper, lets go WAY FUC*ING DEEPER, keep up 'sheep'.

Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION:

Did they find any?

Did they?

No they did not, so mmmmm what angle is the media portraying, what is the mainstream news saying? Some of it is not biased, but ALOT of it is, the fact of the matter is, this is ignored.

Lets go deeper still.

Bill hicks, tried to save a religious sect a few years ago, these people killed themselves) according to the 'media', Bill Hicks, tells us he SAW TANKS FIRE FUC*ING MORTER BOMBS INTO THE BUILDING, but he is ignored since the 'media' says otherwise.


PEOPLE HAVE BLIND IGNORANCE TO THE CONTROL ALL AROUND YOU, most people are 'sheep' being 'led' no independent thought process, no desire to 'have a healthy does of scepticism, no desire to do there 'own' research'. they are lazy, they are 'content' and they are 'led'.

Now we can go deeper and deeper and I could fill this whole forum with examples of media manipulation, people WORSHIP THE MEDIA, what the MEDIA says is the TRUTH<<<<<< people WORSHIP it, it is true because the MEDIA SAYS IT IS<<<< if you believe this, you are past help, you really are.

Blind, BLIND WORSHIP of the media, of papers, of TV of total ignorance.

You accuse me of being 'paranoid' i will accuse YOU OF BEING A DUMB MOTHER FUC*ER><

Anyway, rant off:

But yes, media is corrupt, so is your government and so are a alot of people around you, if you think otherwise, you really have no dug deep enough.

But I advice against it, this is part of the abyss, I was referring to and you don’t really need to learn this, in how to be successful with women.

But know this, media is bigger then 'sales' media 'influences people lifes', yes it caters to what a consumer, but when you add in 'sheep mentality' you get a hell of allot of conformists, when all it takes is 'one' person with 'value' (famous/rich/sexy person) tell you, your shi8 is actually good for you, I would bet allot of people would 'try it'.

(famous/rich/sexy person), more things we are told to 'worship' also.

Worship the RICH, worship the Beautiful, worship the sexy hot slut:

I say:
WORSHIP YOUR FUC*ING SELF!
 

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jonwon,

That's why I get ticked off lol at Streup and Keto, b/c they are the type that majority of the posters here will just FOLLOW and TAKE THEIR ADVICE AS TRUTH, even though is fvcked as hell. My arguments with them was to try and get them to see a different "light" so to speak, so the "sheep" wouldn't be CONTINUALLY led astray. Lol, those guys will call me the "troll" and the "idiot" when actually it's the only way around.

That's a perfect example of the media, social, cultural INFLUENCE. Most people in power SHOULDN'T BE THERE, but of course IF YOU SAY SO outloud, the SHEEP will be pissed and you won't be served when you go back to the restaurants, they won't cut your hair anymore, or they won't let you BACK in the nightclub lol.

This shyt amazes me, he way I get around it is just laugh.
 

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John-467 said:
jonwon,

That's why I get ticked off lol at Streup and Keto, b/c they are the type that majority of the posters here will just FOLLOW and TAKE THEIR ADVICE AS TRUTH, even though is fvcked as hell. My arguments with them was to try and get them to see a different "light" so to speak, so the "sheep" wouldn't be CONTINUALLY led astray. Lol, those guys will call me the "troll" and the "idiot" when actually it's the only way around.

That's a perfect example of the media, social, cultural INFLUENCE. Most people in power SHOULDN'T BE THERE, but of course IF YOU SAY SO outloud, the SHEEP will be pissed and you won't be served when you go back to the restaurants, they won't cut your hair anymore, or they won't let you BACK in the nightclub lol.

This shyt amazes me, he way I get around it is just laugh.
You are a very wise guy, you will expose alot of truth, i know you have a healthy deep seeted desier to learn about the world, i have read some-of-your posts, you also have a good way to shift through BS, that others dont dont have the insight for.

But your at a safe place now, you keep going, trust me, it maybe hard to get back and i still keep pushing, if you keep going, you may start to get a little too cynical.

LMS is at that level, he is not wrong, he has exposed TOO MUCH TRUTH, he knows what i mean.

I understand you perfectly JOHN.
 
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JONWON, they know it's a lie!!!! Don't throw pearls at swine!!!!
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In America, homos are going to kindergarten to tell five year olds that being a homo is natural and good!! And. we are teaching 5th graders to put condoms on bananas!!! WOW!! What an education!!!!
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See guys,

It's goes back to what I said earlier in this same thread.....about the RESPONSIBILITY of the person in POWER.

Yeah I KNOW my client demands certain things from my product/service/t.v.show/music but I can fulfill my client's entertainment, operational, financial, etc. NEED w/o DESTROYING them or LEADING them astray in the process.

Buyers are lazy, 85% of them. They like to go to someone or somethang they TRUST, and just HAVE FAITH that they will lead them the correct way.

It's usually only when the buyer themself has been harmed and SEEN the wrong/inaccurate leading that they WANT TO CHANGE, and will LISTEN to your viewpoints on how INACCURATE their so called "faithful leader" was.

I just believe it's the responsibility of the seller, to not lead the buyer astray but to lead them to a better place.........
 

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I understand what your saying STR8UP but isn't your job to influence those people to buy what ever product your hired to sell ??
When I sit down and write something my one goal, my ONLY goal is to appeal to the needs and desires of my target market.
Your job is to make up the minds of a certain target audience isn't it ? and keep in mind...your writing to sell a product, I'm sure you make good money at what you do and your job is significant on a smaller scale but how important is it in the bigger picture.

Try convincing millions about wars and money spent to fund them. Look at all the private contractors that are in Iraq !! All of them make billions off of the soldiers and American citizens. 99% of the services that we spend billions on are useless.

Media picks and chooses a target audience and does everything in its power to think/influence that target. Just out of curiosity..STR8UP if people truly NEEDED what ever product you were hired to sell...why would your company NEED YOU?? why do you have a job ???
 

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azanon said:
Any comments so far yet on the answers you were given to your initial question? Or were you just trolling?
How am I suppose to comment on something I don't know about? This thread has been very informative though, maybe I'll understand all more threads now.
 

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STR8UP, you're wrong, but not because we just say it.


You look at this link below and it's example of censorship in a presidential candidate phone questionnaire:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JPpCvF7N3Vg

This is one example of censorship. People want Ron Paul. You say it's all about demand THEN supply, but people want Ron Paul. CNN and Fox news aren't supplying him. They don't mention how much money he's raised from regular donations (more than any current candidate!)

You're wrong on the media influencing and not the other way around because of Rupert Murdock's confession on the media trying to shape the views of the war in Iraq.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JF9HpuZm6-g

I don't subscribe to any particular belief and I don't follow unless I know there's no agenda in trying to take my mind body or soul. I say that the media tries to control because of those two examples and HUNDREDS of other examples. It's real because we've seen an alternative to controlled media: the internet.
 

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well the 'matrix' became popular based on the movie 'the matrix'.

its the notion that the lives we are living are not real. that we have been conditioned to live lives which, if we had an alternative, we would not be living.

we are not 'free' because we are not aware of our choices. we have been raised to believe that a, b, and c are the only options.

when we talk about a person opening their eyes and becoming aware of the matrix, we are talking about the process wherein a person comes to understand that they have behaved a certain way because they didn't know they could behave otherwise.

and its the realization that the world is FILLED with people who are behaving in ways merely as the result of behavior conditioning. in fact, the only reason so much bullsh*t is accepted in the world is because everyone conditions everyone else to accept it - its the herd mentality. something that is stupid suddenly seems reasonable when everyone around you is doing it.

here is a look a the matrix as well...why is christmas / December the month with the highest rate of suicides? arguably its because we as a society argue that christmas is a time celebration and being with loved ones. as such, those who have no loved ones or whose lives are so messed up that celebration seems absurd, often compare their lives to others who are all lovey dovey and decide, that's it, im out of here, i can't take living anymore.

now, all that, as gloomy as it may be, seems perfectly logical. and hence we confront the matrix.

in REALITY, when i think of december / christmas, it is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. now, what woudl be the last thing Jesus would want someone to do? that's right, kill themselves.

but do we FEEL the spirit of jesus during christmas? hell no. we are bombarded with consumerism and people running to parties all over the place and everyone wishing everone else marry christmas. its a big high school prom dance where everyone puts on a big fancy show, but ultiamtely it means nothing.

so thats an example of the matrix. in reality december / christmas shoudl have the lowest rate of suicide because it shoudl be the month that people remember that they are loved and that Jesus died for them and that he loved even the most troubled of us (for those who believe in jesus, and that IS what christmas is suppose to be about).

but instead, because of the society we have created, suicide rates go through the roof.

and thats just ONE example of how the hypocrisy that permeates our lives at all times - just one exmaple of the matrix at work.

you hear a lot about the matrix on here becuase it applies a lot to how men and women interact. men have a huge set of beliefs about women that are totally out of synch with reality. they have been conditioned to believe things that are not true.

so basically the matrix is simply anything and everything that makes what is not true seem not only true, but the only option you have.
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
STR8UP, you're wrong, but not because we just say it.
The bullet always gets aimed at the biggest target.

The sheep get fed what they want to eat, literally, and metaphorically.

Lets all just collectively give ourselves an excuse to be idiots why don't we? Cause that's what you're doing. You assume people are brainless drones. That 's not the case. Everyone can be influenced by what they see and hear, but in a capitalist society that is market driven the dollars decide what you see and hear, and it's the very people watching who are spending the dollars. Everything comes down to the fact that the media is simply a market, just the same as your local flea market. Everyone is competing for your dollar. If they don't GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT, they cease to exist.

Why is this so hard to understand? Because you would rather point fingers at some imaginary power rather than acknowledge that you have a choice in everything you do, that's why.
 

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joekerr31 said:
well the 'matrix' became popular based on the movie 'the matrix'.

its the notion that the lives we are living are not real. that we have been conditioned to live lives which, if we had an alternative, we would not be living.

we are not 'free' because we are not aware of our choices. we have been raised to believe that a, b, and c are the only options.

when we talk about a person opening their eyes and becoming aware of the matrix, we are talking about the process wherein a person comes to understand that they have behaved a certain way because they didn't know they could behave otherwise.

and its the realization that the world is FILLED with people who are behaving in ways merely as the result of behavior conditioning. in fact, the only reason so much bullsh*t is accepted in the world is because everyone conditions everyone else to accept it - its the herd mentality. something that is stupid suddenly seems reasonable when everyone around you is doing it.

here is a look a the matrix as well...why is christmas / December the month with the highest rate of suicides? arguably its because we as a society argue that christmas is a time celebration and being with loved ones. as such, those who have no loved ones or whose lives are so messed up that celebration seems absurd, often compare their lives to others who are all lovey dovey and decide, that's it, im out of here, i can't take living anymore.

now, all that, as gloomy as it may be, seems perfectly logical. and hence we confront the matrix.

in REALITY, when i think of december / christmas, it is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. now, what woudl be the last thing Jesus would want someone to do? that's right, kill themselves.

but do we FEEL the spirit of jesus during christmas? hell no. we are bombarded with consumerism and people running to parties all over the place and everyone wishing everone else marry christmas. its a big high school prom dance where everyone puts on a big fancy show, but ultiamtely it means nothing.

so thats an example of the matrix. in reality december / christmas shoudl have the lowest rate of suicide because it shoudl be the month that people remember that they are loved and that Jesus died for them and that he loved even the most troubled of us (for those who believe in jesus, and that IS what christmas is suppose to be about).

but instead, because of the society we have created, suicide rates go through the roof.

and thats just ONE example of how the hypocrisy that permeates our lives at all times - just one exmaple of the matrix at work.

you hear a lot about the matrix on here becuase it applies a lot to how men and women interact. men have a huge set of beliefs about women that are totally out of synch with reality. they have been conditioned to believe things that are not true.

so basically the matrix is simply anything and everything that makes what is not true seem not only true, but the only option you have.

I had thought about writing a post for this thread. But I couldn't get my thoughts straight enough to do it. Joekerr's post is close to what I would have wanted to say. So, good job, J. Thanks.

The only thing I would truly differ with is your notion of "behavior conditioning." I think it's more like "innocent ignorance." If it were "conditioning," then POSITIVE results would be given in response to behavior "desired" by the "matrix", thus reinforcing them. But that's not what we see out there. Men get NEGATIVE results from the "matrix." (Marriage, divorce, AW's, flakes, etc.) It's really IGNORANCE of the true reality (i.e., true reality outside/free of the "matrix") that is the REAL problem most men have, I believe.

Once our eyes are opened to the "true" reality, then we are free to move among women without debilitating delusions.


That aside, Joekerr is right on it.

Thanks, man.
 

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STR8UP said:
The bullet always gets aimed at the biggest target.

The sheep get fed what they want to eat, literally, and metaphorically.

Lets all just collectively give ourselves an excuse to be idiots why don't we? Cause that's what you're doing. You assume people are brainless drones. That 's not the case. Everyone can be influenced by what they see and hear, but in a capitalist society that is market driven the dollars decide what you see and hear, and it's the very people watching who are spending the dollars. Everything comes down to the fact that the media is simply a market, just the same as your local flea market. Everyone is competing for your dollar. If they don't GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT, they cease to exist.

Why is this so hard to understand? Because you would rather point fingers at some imaginary power rather than acknowledge that you have a choice in everything you do, that's why.

The "power" you speak of isn't imaginary. People are only influenced by what they know. Fact. If you're pounded 24 7 with news on how the Iraqi people are evil and "insurgents", that's not going to influence you?

Fact is, is that we ARE capable of being sheeple. You saw something wasn't right and you took a left. That's why you're here (duh) Most people live and die staying the course because they're influenced or they don't want to see the "matrix" for what it is.
 

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TM and Danger ..... two overtly political posts in a row.

Cut it out, guys, it will just lead to flames and a closure of the thread. (I decline to agree or disagree with either of you.)
 

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I didn't ask anyone to agree with me. I only made one post about it.

Dude, don't start b1tching.
 

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MacAvoy said:
I keep seeing references to unplugging from the matrix and I just skip over the thread/post because I don't know what it is. Can someone please give an indepth explanation.

Thanks.
:rolleyes: What are you a spastic?

You been here since 2003, had a plethora of eye opening information at your disposal to put into practice and you've never once noticed a difference between yourself and the average bozo who still thinks flowers and "working hard" etc etc is the way to a chicks heart and eventually if he's really "lucky" maybe her hand in marriage? Give me a bloody break.

Have a guess what we refer to the GLARING imbalance between you and him is Sherlock?

You also dont own a T.V obviously, or any other outlet for media.
 
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