Ways to Increase Actual and Perceived Value

[StevePUA]

I'm not sure why the OP who is a mod thinks that this topic is so important that it should be stickied. But anyway, dbot made a thread a while back that was similar to this topic:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155104

 

[Wolfgang D]

To get actual value you need this:

-A stable, decent income

-A social life

-An athletic body

-A mature personality


It starts on day one and never stops. Game is good, but some people focus too much on game because it is easier. You need to focus much more on the actual value.

What I would suggest to the average guy to do right now in order to improve himself: start working out. Not only will it give you the body you need, it can also improve your social life, your confidence, your energy and your personality. You will feel more like the man you want to be. Then you will start acting like the man you want to be.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Now, just some small practical tips to increase perceived value, although I am sure there are lots more:

-Keep plants at home, and a pet if possible. This makes your home look much more alive.

-Prepare for old age by eating vitamins, use anti-age lotions, use sunglasses to avoid wrinkles around the eyes, don't drink too much caffeine and alcohol. Sound "feminine"? Your older self will thank you.

-Don't play computer games or waste time on the computer, other than a small amount for recreation. You need that time.

-Spend some extra money when you buy your clothes. You might think people don't notice when you dress well, but trust me, they notice when you dress badly.

 

[fuzzball]

To get actual value you need this:

-A stable, decent income

-A social life

-An athletic body

-A mature personality


It starts on day one and never stops. Game is good, but some people focus too much on game because it is easier. You need to focus much more on the actual value.

What I would suggest to the average guy to do right now in order to improve himself: start working out. Not only will it give you the body you need, it can also improve your social life, your confidence, your energy and your personality. You will feel more like the man you want to be. Then you will start acting like the man you want to be.

i agree start working out. i am sad to say how out of shape i have gotten(i think a contest between me and a flight a stairs....the stairs win). when i was thinking about trying to have somewhat of a life it dawned on me.... i have 0 energy. just working for this past week has probably kicked it up from 0 to 5% which is quite a big jump.

though if you workout....dont forget to change the diet too and inhale some food or something afterwards.

Now, just some small practical tips to increase perceived value, although I am sure there are lots more:

-Keep plants at home, and a pet if possible. This makes your home look much more alive.

-Prepare for old age by eating vitamins, use anti-age lotions, use sunglasses to avoid wrinkles around the eyes, don't drink too much caffeine and alcohol. Sound "feminine"? Your older self will thank you.

-Don't play computer games or waste time on the computer, other than a small amount for recreation. You need that time.

-Spend some extra money when you buy your clothes. You might think people don't notice when you dress well, but trust me, they notice when you dress badly.

a fair amount of these lotions are a load of BS in all honesty. that said Homework on the computer can be a huge time suck....its just way to easy to get distracted. although it should be important to note for us gamers out there i am not sure replacing 10 hours of video games with 10 hours of girl chasing is the goal here and i see quite a few people seem like they completely sell their soul to girl chasing. i guess i would say if you like games game just cut back on it. 10 hours of either girl chasing or games is bad.

i do agree though time management....why arent there mandatory time management classes in k-12 each year lol.

 

[Wolfgang D]

a fair amount of these lotions are a load of BS in all honesty. that said Homework on the computer can be a huge time suck....its just way to easy to get distracted. although it should be important to note for us gamers out there i am not sure replacing 10 hours of video games with 10 hours of girl chasing is the goal here and i see quite a few people seem like they completely sell their soul to girl chasing. i guess i would say if you like games game just cut back on it. 10 hours of either girl chasing or games is bad.

i do agree though time management....why arent there mandatory time management classes in k-12 each year lol.

Time management is extremely important. We lose so much time during the day.

I don't know what the lotions look like where you live, but then, just read up on which ones are best. And any protection for your skin is better than none. Lotion for the face should also be used on the neck and the middle of your chest (the "cleavage" part) as that is the same type of skin as in your face, and it easily wrinkles. Under the eyes and out to the sides where we often get wrinkles, you need an eye lotion with smaller molecules; using the regular face lotion there is just counter-productive. The eye lotion also needs to be applied very carefully, if you push too hard with your finger it is counter-productive.

That's what you learn by having female relatives, God bless' em. Again guys, sound feminine? Well, having smooth skin on your hands and in your face when you are older and others have wrinkles makes a difference.

 

[Wolfgang D]

More tips on increasing perceived value:

-Limit electronic contact. That means phone conversations, text messages, email, chat, Facebook.... Show her that you are too busy for all of that. Don't be another online orbiter. Also, too much electronic contact may feel intimate for the moment, but it kills the spark. Remember to always be brief in electronic contact, and that all such contact should aim for face-to-face time, which is all the contact that matters.

-Control your emotions. Did you ever see a hero lose his cool? Only in the most dire situations, when he goes berserk after his friend was shot. You probably won't be in that situation. The alpha-male hero doesn't lose his cool because a woman is suspicious, because she arrives too late, because she doesn't understand that that creepy guy in the bar is hitting on her so she should stop smiling at him. You explain with a clear voice what it is you don't like. If she refuses to accept your explanation, you leave. Not only is this approach the best for your dating and relationships, it also gives you a better reputation, which helps you in future game (and in everything else).

 

[fuzzball]

Time management is extremely important. We lose so much time during the day.

I don't know what the lotions look like where you live, but then, just read up on which ones are best. And any protection for your skin is better than none. Lotion for the face should also be used on the neck and the middle of your chest (the "cleavage" part) as that is the same type of skin as in your face, and it easily wrinkles. Under the eyes and out to the sides where we often get wrinkles, you need an eye lotion with smaller molecules; using the regular face lotion there is just counter-productive. The eye lotion also needs to be applied very carefully, if you push too hard with your finger it is counter-productive.

That's what you learn by having female relatives, God bless' em. Again guys, sound feminine? Well, having smooth skin on your hands and in your face when you are older and others have wrinkles makes a difference.

i agree so much time gets lost during the day.

as for lotions? the thing of it is we are like most creatures met to withstand a fair amount of sun(sun tanning on a regular basis is not good....i have sisters that did that and you can see the wrinkles appearing in their 30s which given our genetic history is really bad as my family ages extremely well.....my dad is 70 and could pass for 50 my grandma is 90 and until a couple of years ago could've passed for her 60s there are countless other examples) and other weather factors. our body is naturally designed to withstand that. and not smoking and getting drunk every week and cutting back on the fast food will actually do far more for your health and skin than most lotions could ever dream of. hell only because i am in college people think i am 18 but otherwise people think i am 16 despite i am 28 almost 29.

are all lotions crap? probably not. but i'd wager a fair amount are useless "look young now" schemes or look 20 years younger or some other crap.

-Limit electronic contact. That means phone conversations, text messages, email, chat, Facebook.... Show her that you are too busy for all of that. Don't be another online orbiter. Also, too much electronic contact may feel intimate for the moment, but it kills the spark. Remember to always be brief in electronic contact, and that all such contact should aim for face-to-face time, which is all the contact that matters.

this can also be filed under the time management section as well. texting, email and facebook are huge time sucks. i would add internet forums to that list as well. and i am not sure about anybody else but porn is a huge time suck as well. the time to watch it....look for it....and the proceed 20-30 minutes afterwards of not wanting to do anything. plus your entire mood changes too.

 

[Velor]

Being in control of the situation and the surroundings, keep your eyes everywhere at the same time

Obviously, pay attention to your dressing and be sure it is casual and elegant at the same time

Generally be happy and joke alot, that's the cool part about it, if you want to have a high value you must be happy, that's like the beginning and the end of the whole life game here

High value is insolvably linked to aesthetics, someone is naturally gifted, someone just has to work with what he got, less gifted means more work, but few things are impossible with determination

Money, high value socially means you must have money
That's not about the value of the person itself, it just counts when speaking about society point of view, individuals are very different from society, even if it sounds paradoxical

Being goal oriented is probably the most important thing to be high value, knowing where to go and how, never stopping to aim for better and higher meanings for our lives

Behave with respect of others and the others will behave with respect for you

 

[Wolfgang D]

Some more tips about perceived value:

-Play the right kind of music, no trash. If you can dig up good music that your peers haven't thought of, then that's a bit cool. I am saying that because I am right now listening to Chris Isaak's Wicked Games on YouTube. Show that you don't just listen to whatever is fashionable, you go for the quality.

-Do something charitable. Don't make it a big thing, just something you do as a side note. Donating blood a few times a year is perfect. It also shows that you are clean, since any STD would show up when you donate.

 

[Demonpenz]

I like the thread. No short cuts...value comes from hard work with correct direction.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I'm thinking of taking the main points of this thread and distilling it down to a pdf free guide for men, perhaps along with my thread "How to be sexual" which I had pinned for a while.

Sometimes these "think tank" threads come up with interesting perspectives that can be used in a practical sense, especially in terms of self-evaluation, which is the fulcrum upon which everything else is leveraged, in my opinion.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

women want men who are better than them, period, that sums it up

 

[member160292]

Bump

 

[thermodynamic]

Have options. Truly have many options and its game on.

 

[thermodynamic]

I don't know about today, but in the Bible it specifically mentions how all the women loved Jesus and how they were crying at his crucifixion.

Actual value is underrated these days...

bro , Jesus was popular as ****.

 

[jhonny9546]

Here's an example of high perceived value vs. low actual value in regards to fabricated fame:

Self explanatory..

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

Value doesn't exist. It's a made up, clichéd and overused concept by dating coaches and guys who are trying to get better with women.

Same applies to SMV (sexual market value), it does not exist either, except for in the minds of guys on the internet.

No normal person keeps going on about 'value' or SMV.

You don't need 'value' or SMV to get women. All that matters is that a woman is attracted to you and that you can get her turned on/sexually aroused when you talk to her. You can do this with a confident direct approach and erotic/sexual talk.

The entire notion of 'value' and SMV is bullhvt.