URGENT! Another DJ is stealing my woman..how do I fight back???

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Jet Jockey, you've came quite a long way and seem to be heading in the right direction. Keep it up. You not calling her back is making her sweat big time. Seems she's trying to pull every trick she can think to regain the upperhand.

I suggestion not erasing any threats (phone calls, emails, etc) that you recieve. It's evidence of a "terrorist threat." I suspect they are empty, as they almost always are, but I'd still keep a record of them.
 

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Well now she has gone to a new level. She is using my friends to get messages to me etc. I have told them all to hang up on her etc. Bad thing is she has called some of them done the crying routine on them...and some are a little AFC at times and start to feel sorry for her...so now its getting hard to know who to trust etc. Any suggestions???
 

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Thisd is desperation.

Here is the deal.

Only go on what you know - not matter what she's telling your friends and what they are telling you.

You've made a decision - there's no need to go and change your mind.

What could hse possibly tell them that you would want to know?

NEXT.
 

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Who to Trust? Trust Yourself.

You made some decisions with EXCELLENT reasons, I might add. You were absolutely right: this girl was trying to play two ends against the middle and got burnt.

How the fvck does she have your friends' phone numbers, anyway? You need to talk to your friends and tell them your story in a very short, direct, and calm way. That story is that this chick had been traveling four hours to see a guy she had the hots for, invited him to stay the weekend with her, and then spent the weekend with him. When you had a problem with that, she told you that she "goes from relationship to relationship" and that she "needs her space" all a huge sign of disrespect to you, regardless of whether she actually fvcked this guy or not (and, hey, I think we know the true answer to that ... that would be an affirmative).

And then tell your friends not to be such fvcking whimps listening to her, that they're going to have to decide ... they can't be her "friend" and allow themselves to get in the middle AND be your friend. She is using them.

FORTUNATELY, THOUGH, YOU'LL KNOW WHO YOUR REAL FRIENDS ARE. The ones who are disloyal to you and continue contact with her after you've been plain with them are not your friends. They are spineless disloyal ****roaches.

Then, you simply tell them that you will have NOTHING TO DO with talking to them about her. You will render them powerless. They cannot be part of the game, they cannot be used, if you do not allow them to speak to you about her. If they persist and talking to you about her and conveying messages, you simply tell them that you are firm, bid them good day, and hang up. Don't take calls from friends who are disloyal. You might have to write some people off here bro.

Importantly, you cannot bring up this girl to these people either. You can't forbid them from getting involved and then talk to them about her, either. Get yourself a therapist (or a dog) to talk to if you really need to talk about it. Or, post more often here. We'd be happy to talk about it here with you.

I feel for you brother, it must be tough. It's a tough situation and we can feel your pain. But, you have seen the light as clear as day. She has shown her true colors. You must stay away from her brother. She has blown the trust. It cannot be reinstituted. There is no "reset" button on trust. Once it is gone, it is gone.

Even if you were somehow to allow yourself to get back with her, would you ever fully trust her now? You'd always sleep with one eye metaphorically open after this, AND WITH GOOD REASON. She was willing to disrespect you, to be disloyal to you, and fvck with your relationship, your emotions, your wishes, and you as a friend and lover FOR WHAT???? She TOLD you that she likes to go from relationship to relationship --- WHAT THE FVCK????

She was testing the waters with this guy, THINKING foolishly that little chumpboy Jet would still be around to take her after she got through swallowing some other guy's load and that YOU, JET, being a weak puzzyboy, would just take her back.
W-R-O-N-G. You're no chump, Jet. You're no puzzy. I'm afraid she's misplayed her cards and, of course, NOW SHE'S FULL OF REGRET. AND, TO BOOT, it didn't work out with the studman. Hahaha. Fvck her.

Go get a woman who is deserving of you. This one clearly is not. And, find out who your true friends are and who the pretenders and AFC puzzies are.

Consider yourself blessed. This is an excellent opportunity. It might have taken you years in an otherwise uneventful life to separate the wheat from the chaff and find out who your "true" friends are when the chips are down, and to find out the true colors of this girl, AND to test your own metal and resolve.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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can tell, he is a bonafide DJ, Maybe much better than I. He knows how to use character assasination on me, raise doubts in her mind about us, in other words, he is using every tactic in the book at his disposal.


Sounds like it's too late. If she drove 2 hours for some jerk off that lived in her complex and is using the excuse that they used to be friends...

SSSSSLLLLLLAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP!!! WAKE THE FAWK UP

This guy is definately a pimp. He is doing the isolation thing to cut you out of the picture.

Too late she is already bored with you and in need of something new.


And to think He is coming to town to stay with her...and supposedly bringing this mythical friend...


bout as likely as starqueer or habeeb lucking up on anything other than their right hands

SSSSSLLLLLLAAAAAAPPPPP!!!!

Time to find a back door and be like the name of this site suggests...a real old fashioned Don Juan...

Of course we all on this site know you will go by there friday to see for yourself the TRUTH...let us know!
 

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let me simplifly this whole issue thusly. if shes gunna cheat on your then shes gunna cheat on you and trying to stop it will never help anything.... except show your insecurity and the fact that you actually fear she might leave. (if she is at a point where shes ready to cheat you, you dont want her anyway, because you'd be happier with a woman with higher IL and a fresh slate to work off of) if you were a true DJ and had taken total control of this b1tch from the start she'd be wondering how long she could keep YOU and not the other way around. thats why i know you already have a problem.

the reason its easier to take another mans woman than to keep your own is because so very few men are actually in control of their relationships. TOTAL CONTROL.

i know where you're comming from and even though i know you should just let it ride and "what will be is what will be", i know how hard it is to see something like this playing out in front of you with somebody that you care about a lot.

if you have enough power you could have done some of these things:

1. told her flat out you didn't want her seeing "male friends" alone. if she disobeyed you then give her a consequence.

2. gone out with a "female friend" to get your point across.

3. NEXT

4. Met the "male friend" and threatened him within an inch of his life=P
 

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Originally posted by Jet Jockey
Well now she has gone to a new level. She is using my friends to get messages to me etc. I have told them all to hang up on her etc. Bad thing is she has called some of them done the crying routine on them...and some are a little AFC at times and start to feel sorry for her...so now its getting hard to know who to trust etc. Any suggestions???
You can handle them pretty directly. The good ones will know that it's none of their business and will blow her off and probably not ever mention it to you. If they do, they'll let you know she's acting out of line and they froze her out.

As for the AFCs, just look at them and ask "how is this any of your business?" Short answer: it's not. Anything they say trying to explain and you can cut them off and set them straight. Bottom line: it's not their business and it's not open for discussion with them.

My brother had a situation like that and let his AFC friend know that it wasn't really any of his business---but if he really wanted to, then it was Ok for the friend to talk to my brother's ex. It's really Ok--the friend just needed to decide if we would continue taking her calls, because if he did continue talking to my brother's ex (who was developing into a stalker) then my brother would have no problem next'ing the friend.

The AFC friend made the right decision.
 

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Hey Jet Jockey,
Whatever you do, don't back down now and take her back.

Save the threatening message the guy left for you, also file a police report. What he did borders on illegal and it's good backup legally should things escalate.

Much respect for what you have done to dig yourself out.

Peace.
 

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Thanks to you all you have all presented some hellaciously good advice!

I pretty much had it straight in my own mind before my last post tho... just wanted to give ya all a update!

Heres how I see it: She can call my friends. She can call the pope. She can call the president! Some will tell her to shut up, some will listen, and not say anything, and a few might come to me and say WTF man, that chick wants you, your not going to move on that?


Answer: NOT ANYMORE THAN I WOULD MOVE ON A ROAD KILLED SKUNK, CUZ SHE SMELLS LIKE ONE!

As for the friends, you all are right..its a amazingly good opportunity to separate the wheat from the chaff as prosemont I think put it... The ones that play the end against the middle in this case I will put on my ignore list as well. Yes it is unfortunate the bictcch has to play all these games, and a few folks that i otherwise do not want to know about it will get to hear her crying and ranting before they figure out what hit them, but such is the price of love and war...there are always a few casualities!!

The chick Jennifer I got a date with after squirrel chick..well i nexted her already to. DAMN!. Well she tried to play the old make a date, break a date routine. Second time that happened, i didn't return calls, emails etc. She's done. Next.

I do have another question for ya all while I am here. The biotch managed to snag onto two things that are super I mean SUPER important to me. My Dogtags from when I was military (went to war wearing those, kinda sentimental) and a irreplaceable picture of my Grandma, only one that I have. The dog tags spell the most trouble...they have your ssn on them !!! I want that **** back. I have been trying to figure a way. I sure the hell don't want to have to call her to get them, cuz if i act the least bit interested, she will use them as leverage. I can't let her keep em, cuz there is too much she can do with them when it dawns on her..I doubt she has figured it out yet, but sooner or later.. Thought about going in her house while she was gone...i still have a key, but nixed that idea right away...too risky. Somehow I need to get her to fork em over, thought about calling the cops and having them go to her place with me, cuz she would be more apt to take that serious and not jack around and just give them over so i could go... I duuno about that idea either. maybe one of you guys has dealt with this before? advice? I'm all ears!
 

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Go over un-announced when you know she will be there and alone. Say that you want to talk, get closure, whatever.

At some point, while in the midst of saying that it's good you two can be friends and clearing all this up, ask for the tags and the picture while handing over her stuff that you have (and don't ever let those out of your possession again <Backhand SLAP to the face>...then exit gracefully and change your phone number.
 

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I'm not sure Tesuque. This chick is sort of a wing nut. Read the post where she had the bf call up and threaten Jet. I think I'd either just go in the house when she's not there or go with the cops idea. I'm not sure actually. Do you know where in the house the stuff is? Might also be a good convo to have with the cops to see if they can escort you there WHILE SHE'S NOT THERE to retrieve your stuff so she can't claim you stole anything. You have a key and therefore (perhaps) implied authority to enter. Worth talking to them about it, if not hypothetically.
 

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Tesquered you rule!!!!

Excellent!

Now why didn't I think of that!!!! And no explanation needed to her as to why I changed my mind and do not want to be friends after all. Just don't talk to her again after that! beautiful!

And if the @hole is there she ran off with, he will probably have to hear about how good a friend she thinks I will make for the rest of the evening! LMAO he will be rolling his eyes, and staring at the ceiling in disbelief LOL.

No, i didn't let her have em, She informed me she "borrowed" them for some silly project she wanted to do ( some sort of this is your life girly collage thingy) She never had my permission to take them.
 

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Originally posted by prosemont
I'm not sure Tesuque. This chick is sort of a wing nut. Read the post where she had the bf call up and threaten Jet. I think I'd either just go in the house when she's not there or go with the cops idea. I'm not sure actually...
I hear ya...

But he's been standing up and showing that he can't be taken advantage of as easily as he was in the past.

But he's in a very bad place where his military tags and one-and-only picture of his grandmother are with her. That's a fact--whether his fault or not. I'm usually the first to say "toss that sentimental crap", but even this strikes me as serious shyt.

He's got the problem and he has an absolute need to fix it regardless of fault. Since he's showing that he can stand up to her manipulations from several directions (and get disgusted by it--a very healthy sign, IMO)--he may have the balls and the bloody-mindedness to go in and be a dyck and con her out of it.

It's unfortunate, but that's the predicament he's in, and now--like a man--he has to deal with it.

She's a manipulative con. I heard where cons fall most readily for other cons, and I can see why that is so. I think she's ripe to being conned and manipulated. It's a nasty business, but that's what he faces.

I don't discount the cops idea, but it seems like overkill before trying to resolve it oneself. But then--let us all be clear and remember---it's not my @ss on the line, it's not my dog tags and one-n-only family heirloom. If it was, I'd go in just as I said and pray for the best--but right now, that's just speculation on my part, isn't it?

Good luck dude. Prosemount has a valid point. You're in the situation--you know what you feel up to doing.
 

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As you probably know by now, this chick was never girlfriend material. Be thankful you learned your lesson.
 

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I like the cop idea except for one thing. She could easily see that coming, and just claim she doesn't have them. Since I can't prove she DOES have them, cops are gonna say, give him back any of his stuff you have and she will come up with a beer mug or some silly shyt like that. No I think conning her is right on. And she would fall for it too. Yes if it were anything else I'd just let her have it..but not this stuff.

She will go for it.

I am tempted to just go into the house while she is away at college, but i don't know for sure where the stuff is, and if a neighbor or someone saw me, she would surely be informed, and they know what I look like and what I drive. Or she could get out of a class early and come home and bust me looking for the stuff. Anytime she would legally be in the right, such as catching me in her house unauthorized, she is gonna play that card on me. I don't feel like dealing her a hand. I don't want to play cards..just want this shyt over with.

So I'll con her, make tracks, and never look back! Sounds like a plan guys! Thanks for all the excellent advice, and thanks for hanging with me on this one!
 
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this shyt is better than a soap opera - this ho give her pimp your phone # and address with a map - to threaten u ? and she is still alive!!!!!
 

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Once again proves my theories of women having "male friends"

It is all complete BS. There is no such thing. Nothing good will ever come from it. Over and over again you see the issue with your woman having other male friends. Having a GF with AFC male "friends" will always be a problem.

If they are more than friends, that is worse.

Do you think if she had female friends instead, that any of this would have happened?

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE FEMALES and THEIR AFC MALE "FRIENDS"???

Dietzcoi
 

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Botton line is you do whatever you have to do to get your very important belongings back.

Personally I'd have called her on taking the dog tags without permission in the first place and would have had them back pronto. There's no way a woman that you've been involved with for only a few months or so should have possession of things so important to you.

From what you're written about her, your best bet may be to get back in her good graces and manipulate her into passing your things over voluntarily. This is your life and you, and only you, know how important your things are. You have to decide how far you're willing to go to retrieve them, and how much time you're willing to invest in the retrieval process.

Getting back in her good graces may take days or weeks to get yourself to the point of getting possession of your things. Personlly I'd do whatever was necessary, and I'd certainly invest the short term future. If this takes pretending to befriend her for a while then I'd do it; if it requires taking her to bed and banging her a few times then I'd do it. Remember, you're in control, not her.

You can do this, good luck and let us know how it turns out.

P.S. If you do have to bang her along the way, give her a good spanking for putting you though this.:D
 

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I hear ya, too, Tesuque -- your proposal is a beautiful thing on all sorts of levels.

I hope it works.
 
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