True or False: Girls only sh*t test when they like you

[NoFear]

you know, I think a lot of women these days shyt test to build up more reassurance in their mind that you are the one they want to keep at this time. It’s like part of them wants to get rid of you, and part of them wants to keep you. So they toss in the shyt test and see which part wins. I don’t think they can really control it a lot of times.

Also, absolutely correct. Like i said earlier, they get to an emotional state and because they are not sure about you they try to use whatever form of **** test to see if they get out of it. But that doesnt mean they are or can not be attratcted to you.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Dude, there's a clear difference between a woman that is teasing you in a friendly or even flirtatious way compared to a woman who is literally trying to play mind games with you. If a woman is showing resistance or legitimately a headache to deal with you should be asking yourself why you are even interacting with her in the first place. Things become much easier when you just assume that non compliant behavior is due to them not being interested.

Im totally with you. However there is a 3rd dynamic but it only works when you're on drugs or exteremely advanced: dont take anything she does personally and slowly train her to be in your frame. Nobody has the patience and empathy for this approach but i think its possible. A lot of western women play mindgames even if they are attracted to you. They do this because they're starting out from an extremely defensive and exhausted position socially. I never entertain these types for more than 3 covert insults, I am also quite exhuasted. I just wait for the ones that authentically show interest...

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

In my experience, girls very attracted from me didnt sh1t test me at all, nothing...nada...zero.

The tests came from lukewarm girls or even uninterested girls that just needed a way to annoy me.

Sh1t tests mostly came from girls that didnt particularly find me attractive but wanted to see if I had any value, most of the times it was open disrespect or challenging me to see my reaction.

No girl that likes a man would do anything that could cost her to lose him, she would not annoy him, confuse him or give him any reason to move.

 

[CornbreadFed]

After my experience this weekend and the more I think about it, a woman will shvt test any guy regardless of interest level & smv. Note, the types of and frequencies of shvt tests are going to depend on the girl's interest level for the guy. However, women are spoiled and there is a good reason on why it is one of the first lessons you read in the bible.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Haven't been shyt tested in years

 

[member162951]

Just my experience but a highly attractive girl (8+) with a high SMV and an abundance mindset doesn't give a crap about *losing* some schmo who doesn't bring high value to her life or doesn't make her feel safe emotionally assuming she's seeking a LTR and not a hook up.

I've been trying to find what Chateau Heartiste wrote about this to link, but it was that sh*t testing, push-pull by women isn't done intentionally or even consciously. It's their emotions steering that ship. And the higher the interest, the greater the risk = the more intense her emotions leading to protective measures a/k/a *shyt tests.*

As men, we should not take personally and even be flattered as it means she digs you, hard. Be prepared for them and come armed with the proper response. Which is always remain calm, cool and centered. Never lose your sh*t or become emotional yourself, it's the kiss of death which I learned the hard way.

Once you break her defense barriers and knock down her protective walls, the tests will stop or lessen. It requires patience assuming you think she's worth it.

If she's not wirth it to you, dump her.

 

[itouchyou]

Lol, you just prove not only you dont understand woman at all and whatever little experience you have you have gotten by looks but also that you havent been in a truly long LTR. **** tests will always come sooner or later.
And If there is anything that caractherizes women is that they go by everything except logic.
You are either a 20 yold that thinks he is gonna looksmax his way for ever, a soy boy or a leftist idiot.

Your response is to throw insults and baseless accusations about who I am as a person, and you think this makes you look credible when responding to the nature of the topic?

Your behavior is exactly like those people that you claim I am. Not even worth responding to at this point.

Well the thing about logic friend is thats not how women communicate as a basic understanding.

You think women need a 'reason' to test a man's congruency?

Uhhh. Definition of **** test:

A ****-test is a premeditated social challenge set up by a man or a woman, but usually a woman, to test and assess the target's reaction to the social challenge.

You are getting **** tested because some aspect of your looks or game is making you look like a weak man. Sorry that this might be a blow to your ego, but you're probably not as alpha as you think you are.

I don't get **** tested because I don't project weakness either through my body language, mannerisms, or game. Women spend one date with me and submit completely because that's the frame I project. Too many guys are supplicating to women these days and come off as a jester.. just lmao. No thanks.

People tend to forget that 85% of communication is non-verbal. We're still very much primates. Most dude's body language, eye contact, etc is comically bad and thus they get **** tested and try to claim that everyone experiences this. It's not the case.

 

[itouchyou]

Your full of shyt. You get tested all the fcking time.
Ask any dad with a daughter. This is a keyboard jocky clown response.

Here is a good idea. Dont quote me unless you know wtf your talking about.
This isnt theory. Its gravity

You don't even know the difference between your and you're. Just LOL.

Not only that, you use PUA terms like AMOG.. keep believing in **** tests. Good luck with that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The only reason any person would be "tested" is due to doubts about their competence/confidence.

This forum is also full of people like you that don't understand basic logic.

You have "attraction" sh1t tests and you also have "comfort" sh1t tests. With the first type they're testing if you're alpha, with the second type they're testing if you're a player. Two different tests.

 

[itouchyou]

You have "attraction" sh1t tests and you also have "comfort" sh1t tests. With the first type they're testing if you're alpha, with the second type they're testing if you're a player. Two different tests.

Sure, I buy this. In regards to the topic though, still think the assertion is false. They test when they have doubts.

Even among primates - does anybody test the dominance of the silverback gorilla? No, the dominance is self evident. If it's not, that's when the tests happen.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

This answer to this question is nuanced:

1) women don't shvt test bums they're not interested in at all
2) high quality women with high IL won't shvt test men they're interested in because it's disrespectful and could make him lose interest

I think shvt testing can be a sign of "lukewarm" interest. So, it's not a good sign, generally.

 

[NoFear]

Your response is to throw insults and baseless accusations about who I am as a person, and you think this makes you look credible when responding to the nature of the topic?

Your behavior is exactly like those people that you claim I am. Not even worth responding to at this point.

The nature of the topic like stringpuller told you is like gravity it has very little room for debate.
And dont go crying spilling a nonsense childish responsewhen you are the first one attacking a post, specially if that attack shows that you dont have enough real life experience and/or you have always gone by looks and have never had to really seduce a woman out of zero.

 

[itouchyou]

The nature of the topic like stringpuller told you is like gravity it has very little room for debate.
And dont go crying spilling a nonsense childish responsewhen you are the first one attacking a post, specially if that attack shows that you dont have enough real life experience and/or you have always gone by looks and have never had to really seduce a woman out of zero.

In regards to the bolded above, so you are aware, the post of yours' below (the bold) is what I initially responded to in this thread.

We should differentiate between **** test when seducing a new girl and in relationship frame test, they are very different and circumstances also differ. They still are a logical assertion, question or action to an emotional state but have to be handle completely different.
And to all the posters saying a girl wont test you if she is sttracted to you that only proves you havent really seduced a woman in your entire life.
this forum is full of guys with no game or skills and have only been with women due to looks or status.

You're an imbecile. First you call everyone who disagrees with your opinion an amateur with no game or skills, then when I criticize your post several pages back, you now respond saying I'm "crying spilling a nonsense childish response" and then say "I'm the first one attacking a post".

You have the reading comprehension of a teenager. Not responding to your garbage posts any further. First there's the guy who doesn't know the difference between your and you're, and now you, who forgets that he's the one who insulted a bunch of people then tries flipping it by saying I started ****. Just lmfao. This forum needs to have a basic IQ test before allowing members to sign up.

And finally, if there was little room for debate this thread wouldn't be five pages long. You're a random nobody, you don't dictate what is and isn't up for debate.

 

[NoFear]

You're an imbecile. First you call everyone who disagrees with your opinion an amateur with no game or skills, then when I criticize your post several pages back, you now respond saying I'm "crying spilling a nonsense childish response" and then say "I'm the first one attacking a post".

Yes, you are childish, my post you quoted is a general assertion not directed to anyone in particular, and not to “everyone that disagrees with my opinion” like you try to manipulate but more to a current of posts in this and other threads which negate red pill principles of game and attraction.
if it wasnt general i would have quoted appropiately. Maybe you are a little short minded to understand this Mr IQ?
And also the problem is you read my post and you took it so personally that you couldnt help quoting and insulting me directly.
Too bad, **** you.

You have the reading comprehension of a teenager. Not responding to your garbage posts any further. First there's the guy who doesn't know the difference between your and you're, and now you, who forgets that he's the one who insulted a bunch of people then tries flipping it by saying I started ****. Just lmfao. This forum needs to have a basic IQ test before allowing members to sign up.

Manipulating words can work with others but not with me you stupid ****.
Go on and continue crying and yelling **** , english is not my first language and i speak and write fluently in four different languages, id love to see an inmature idiot like you debating through a cell phone in forums in other languages.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Women don’t **** test men. It’s a neg-hit. She views you as higher value and wants to knock you down a peg to get your attention/ reaction out of you because she doesn’t believe she could have gotten your attention by simply talking to you.

Thinking women have some authority to “test” men is pedestalizing them. It’s the other way around. Men test women. We test them for loyalty.

Yep, as I get older this is basically what I've come to realize.

But if a women is busting balls to get your attention, you already have an idea of what a relationship with her would be like, they are usually bitter man haters.

This is an interesting concept. Just based on the fact that is a woman is NOT interested in a man, she wishes he would just go away, I would say yes. That said, if she is really interested in a man, then she won't risk throwing out the sheet tests. I guess if the attraction elasticity is very high (i.e., which means it's easily displaced), then sheet tests come out, but if the attraction is inelastic, then the sheet test accomplishes nothing.

Its a last resort for women, Its ultimately to save face (save their ego).

I had to interact with a woman for several months due to work. In our first interaction she offered me her personal number, without even knowing her I acted like I didnt hear her offer. Everytime I would see her for the next few months it was constant hot and cold, I really had no interest in her but due to work I had to interact with her. I was in her head without even knowing. She would constantly ask me what my plans where for the weekend and insinuate. She would sheet test and ball bust when she could. It was really bizare considereing she was putting in a lot of effort into everything and all I was their for was work. She would constently ask me personal questions while I asked her none.

The whole dynamic between us was her ego tying to feel safe. I could only imagine if I did take her number when first offered what kind of hellscape this women would have been.

Interactions like these really open your eyes to the nature of women. Instead tyring to deciver what a women is thinking, the best course of action is to take anything but yes as a no and move on. Picking apart a womens actions only gives her more power over you. At the end of the day if your not sleeping with her, her opinions of you or "ball busting" tactics are only their to serve her fragile ego. It has nothing to do with you.

 

[I_have_BDE]

I had one hottie from OLD do this. Like she'd f*ckin text me at 630am in the morning about being a morning person and how it's good for you. Seeing how I'd react. Really hot but damn annoying as hell getting constant texts from her when I'm trying to work or sleep. Who the hell calls or texts 630 in the morning unless it's an emergency?

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is a 5 star thread.

18 months out of my marriage I have done and seen enough on the single scene to say that this comes in all stages of the relationship, probably for different reasons. I would guess early on it’s frame and security, later on I would say it’s more about trying to dominate and lay down the frame from a longer term, power dynamics. For instance I saw a married guy get ripped for being on his phone the other day, it was absolutely pathetic.

cops have a really simple process which they use to get people to comply to their orders that I think applies here too - ask, tell, get (in our case, silence and distance or just walk). If you’ve gotten to silence then you’re going to see and hear explanations, realizations etc. unsolicited. Or maybe not. You get the info you need either way.