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Striker_93

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I doubt the longevity of your rotation.



Interest level is not static. Hope the rest of the men in here burn this fact into their brain.

We don’t get credit for how she felt yesterday if she doesn’t feel good in the current moment.
Why do you care so much

Be yourself lil bruh

This ain't your natural self, you didn't start acting like this until you started following red pill sh!t lol
 

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Waiting 5-9 days after a date has nothing to do with “natural self.”
If you didn't get what I'm saying then oh well.

I hope you learn to be yourself and stop following some sh!t you learned from internet forums and YouTube videos, your too old for that, don't forget, before all this red pill knowledge you gained, you was a blue pill guy lol nothing like your what your portraying now, humble yourself.
 

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If you didn't get what I'm saying then oh well.

I hope you learn to be yourself and stop following some sh!t you learned from internet forums and YouTube videos, your too old for that, don't forget, before all this red pill knowledge you gained, you was a blue pill guy lol nothing like your what your portraying now, humble yourself.
What you are saying makes no sense.

“Before you learned how to make money you were broke! Remember that and humble yourself!”
 

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What you are saying makes no sense.

“Before you learned how to make money you were broke! Remember that and humble yourself!”
Are you stupid ?

That does make sense.....

Based on your example,, it means you need to humble yourself and stop acting like your some big shot just because you learned how to make money because before that you was broke and struggling. Humble yourself.

It's very common to tell people who seemed to forgot where they came from to humble themselves.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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"Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime."

The former is what you're doing when you feed him what to do and say like wait 5-9 days to call after a date or following other such 'rules'.

He's not learning a damn thing because everything is being fed to him.

Rather, TEACH him to fish meaning teach him to trust himself, have that confidence, stand tall, be proud, and he will carry that for a lifetime.

And no matter what he does, or doesn't do, it will always be the 'right' thing cause he's being true to himself and his own frame which is the most important thing.

And any woman worth anything will sense that and she will admire and respect him for it..

Not sure why some of you guys fight this, it's actually what good sales people are taught also.

Understand your audience and have the confidence knowing that however you present yourself and what you're selling, it will render you the best possible results, always.

Even if the outcome wasn't what you originally hoped for.
Except you don't tell a beginner salesman to do whatever the hell he wants because he is still thirsty to close a sale. Rules/scripts are like training wheels to get started, a dude with little to no success will 99% of the time kill his own chances by overtexting instead of exercising self-restraint, which is why the "don't text after a date" rule is there.

If someone is asking such a basic question, I'm certain he hasn't internalized his confidence yet.

Tell a beginner he can do whatever the hell he wants and you will end up with something like this:

Beginner: Heyyyy I totally enjoyed our time today :) Hope you did too! I would love to see you again, when are you free?

vs

Seasoned veteran: Hey xxx, I enjoyed our time today. It was nice getting to know you :)

A beginner salesman needs to follow a script
A performing salesman also follows a script, albeit effective one
A top salesman follows what works for him, throws out the rest and keeps his ears open to adjust when necessary
 
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It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If you paid (and we usually do) then it’s her job to reach out later to say “I had a good evening” or at the least “thank you.”
I stand by this.

After pursuing (which is a landmine in itself)
Arranging logistics
Most likely picking up 80% of the tab.
Society wants me to message her the day after aswell? whilst she sits eating Oreos watching reality TV?

she can get some god damn courtesy and her mediocre ass can message me.
 

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All the women I took on dates thanked me either at the end or by message same evening. Most of them payed part of the expenses even.
Respect is given by default, in your case OP you have a clear message. If she doesn’t thank for small things, she will never respect you for the bigger things.
 

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If u already had sex with her I dont think it matters much. If u havent had sex with her I would wait about 3 days to text her. It has worked for me.

As for the girl who ghosted, no sense in worrying about it because there could be a million different reasons. Next
 

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You guys are way too afraid to lose women.

An interested gal does not forget you in a week.
Exactly. And an interested girl will reach out to you if you don’t, hence waiting is good to see their interest level. I quite frankly don’t mess around with low to medium interest women. Not texting them helps me weed them out. I might shoot a text somewhere in the future if they don’t reach out to me but from personal experience I know high interest women will always end up reaching out.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Well to give some context, I had sex with a girl Sat night. We met at a club and talked for a few hours, had lots of drinks, then danced for the last hour. She came to my place and we banged twice and she stayed the night. Next day she stayed until late afternoon, we banged again, and she was super into me the whole time.

Hasn't texted me since then. She was pretty shy, and certainly not assertive at all. I figured I would text her since I had always assumed some girls don't take the intitiative no matter what. But I'll still wait it out a while longer. A simple "hey, had a good time" or a short phone call certainly isn't too much to ask is it?

I also had sex with a different girl on Wednesday night last week. She was young Christian chick with a smoking hot body. The date went good, but the sex was a hot mess, without getting into details. I didn't bother texting her either, and it's been almost a week now. I assume she wasn't too interested.

In the mean time I am trying to arrange other dates as per usual. On some level I don't even care, I made this topic more as a general question; I want to do whatever I can to stack the odds in my favor, because my text game just sucks.
 
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Hasn't texted me since then. She was pretty shy, and certainly not assertive at all. I figured I would text her since I had always assumed some girls don't take the intitiative no matter what. But I'll still wait it out a while longer. A simple "hey, had a good time" or a short phone call certainly isn't too much to ask is it?
See what you are doing here?

This is you wanting validation and affirmation that she likes you and liked the sex. She is supposed to be the one worrying about this!! In the bigger picture, a week really isn’t that long. But you are panicking after just a couple days.

What if she never reaches out? You call her after it has been 5-9 days. See how that works…
 

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See what you are doing here?

This is you wanting validation and affirmation that she likes you and liked the sex. She is supposed to be the one worrying about this!! In the bigger picture, a week really isn’t that long. But you are panicking after just a couple days.

What if she never reaches out? You call her after it has been 5-9 days. See how that works…
I'm not panicking/worrying. I have other leads already. I will continue to wait it out, just like I did with the other girl (who I suppose I could probably text/call but meh).

I am concerned more with the overall process, and not continually shooting myself in the foot over dumb texting mistakes. I don't mind waiting this one out a bit.
 
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Well to give some context, I had sex with a girl Sat night. We met at a club and talked for a few hours, had lots of drinks, then danced for the last hour. She came to my place and we banged twice and she stayed the night. Next day she stayed until late afternoon, we banged again, and she was super into me the whole time.

Hasn't texted me since then. She was pretty shy, and certainly not assertive at all. I figured I would text her since I had always assumed some girls don't take the intitiative no matter what. But I'll still wait it out a while longer. A simple.
Bruh, why is this such a big thing for you?

Stop being a pvssy(Nothing personal, tough love) and call the damn girl!

I couldn't imagine sitting around as a grown ass man hesitating and wondering if i should contact a woman, actually following some 5-9 day rule lol it would bruise my own ego.

Stop using excuses and call her, its seriously not a big deal.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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