Tihash's Daytime Approach Journal
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Nope, never been a problem. I do, however, keep seeing the same staff at the stores. Keep in mind, I go to any particular store (except WM) maybe 2x a week max. I am not always sarging. This weekend I sarged about 3 hours over 4 days.
Nope, never been a problem. I do, however, keep seeing the same staff at the stores. Keep in mind, I go to any particular store (except WM) maybe 2x a week max. I am not always sarging. This weekend I sarged about 3 hours over 4 days.
Approach #128
This is at B&N yesterday.
I see a cute girl sitting on a bench in the magazine section. I do my magazine opener and she says her cousin reads "girl magazines" a lot more than her and says she will brb and she runs off and grabs her cousin. They give me advice, and the target sits back down and the cousin leaves again. I have a real chill, real short (maybe 6 min) convo with the girl. I tell her I have to run (I did, I was late for a date) and was about to close her and she closed me and insisted I take her number. I then call her from my phone so she has my number.
Later that day she texts me and says it was great meeting me. I text back and say we need to hang out sometime. She texts back and says, "Of course!"
I call her today and leave a vm. She txts me back and says she will hit me up later on. I text her and ask if she is free tomorrow night.
Hours later, she texts me and says she has to be honest, she is dating someone already and we can't hang out. For the hell of it, I text her and say, "No problem-- let's just be friends." No reply.
These damn flakes!
This is at B&N yesterday.
I see a cute girl sitting on a bench in the magazine section. I do my magazine opener and she says her cousin reads "girl magazines" a lot more than her and says she will brb and she runs off and grabs her cousin. They give me advice, and the target sits back down and the cousin leaves again. I have a real chill, real short (maybe 6 min) convo with the girl. I tell her I have to run (I did, I was late for a date) and was about to close her and she closed me and insisted I take her number. I then call her from my phone so she has my number.
Later that day she texts me and says it was great meeting me. I text back and say we need to hang out sometime. She texts back and says, "Of course!"
I call her today and leave a vm. She txts me back and says she will hit me up later on. I text her and ask if she is free tomorrow night.
Hours later, she texts me and says she has to be honest, she is dating someone already and we can't hang out. For the hell of it, I text her and say, "No problem-- let's just be friends." No reply.
These damn flakes!
Approach #129
Today at Super WM.
I was running late to a Labor Day BBQ and stopped to grab a strawberry shortcake. Of course, since i had no time, the place was crawling with HBs.
I see one in produce and puss out. She is a hottie. She goes to get in the express lane to check out and I get in line behind her.
I open her on the fact she has color-coded hangers in her cart. Didn't go anywhere. A few seconds later she re-initiates and says how crowded the store is today. I see her phone and ask if it is a Blackberry. Blah blah about her phone and cell carriers. She pays and I try to keep her talking while I pay but I think ppl see paying as a natural ending point.
She scurries off.
I catch up to her in the p-lot as she is loading her car.
"Hey, this may seem crazy, but I have to ask-- are you single?"
"No, I have a bf. You're really sweet, though. If I was single, I"d give you my number."
Next!
Today at Super WM.
I was running late to a Labor Day BBQ and stopped to grab a strawberry shortcake. Of course, since i had no time, the place was crawling with HBs.
I see one in produce and puss out. She is a hottie. She goes to get in the express lane to check out and I get in line behind her.
I open her on the fact she has color-coded hangers in her cart. Didn't go anywhere. A few seconds later she re-initiates and says how crowded the store is today. I see her phone and ask if it is a Blackberry. Blah blah about her phone and cell carriers. She pays and I try to keep her talking while I pay but I think ppl see paying as a natural ending point.
She scurries off.
I catch up to her in the p-lot as she is loading her car.
"Hey, this may seem crazy, but I have to ask-- are you single?"
"No, I have a bf. You're really sweet, though. If I was single, I"d give you my number."
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NotSoSuaveDave
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Keep it up man, I like what I read here 
What I notice here is that when a girl tells you she is married or has a BF you never say something like: No problem for me/He doesn't have to know /etc. You don't want to be "that" guy? I'm gonna try cold approaches too and like you, I don't like approaching in bars and clubs too. And I find it way harder to do approaches in normal life, it takes more skill and balls. I just read everything and I hope more will follow.
grtz
What I notice here is that when a girl tells you she is married or has a BF you never say something like: No problem for me/He doesn't have to know /etc. You don't want to be "that" guy? I'm gonna try cold approaches too and like you, I don't like approaching in bars and clubs too. And I find it way harder to do approaches in normal life, it takes more skill and balls. I just read everything and I hope more will follow.grtz
You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Approach #130
This was Wednesday afternoon at Super WM.
I am picking up a few necessities and see a very cute girl with an awesome bod in sweatpants and a tanktop and flip flops. I'd guess she is about 23. She is coming down one of the main aisles so I pause and she goes into the DVD section.
I follow slowly. See a dude all tatted up one aisle over and think it may be her bf, so I hang loose for a couple of minutes. She is now looking in the big bin of cheapo DVDs and some other lady is there at the bin, too. So I wait. She eventually gets near me in an aisle and I open her.
Me: "Find anything good?"
#130: "No, not yet."
Me: "What are you looking for?"
Blah blah
It is going nowhere fast so I make up BS about my friend who just got a huge LCD TV and I wanted to buy her some DVDs as gifts... but all she watches is chick flicks... so what kind of non-chick flick movies do chicks like?
She gives me some advice and points out a few movies. I try to transition out of the opener but she keeps me in the opener. This happens a few times.
Example:
#130: "She may like Batman. Is she into comicbook-based movies?"
Me: "Yeah, she might like that. So what are you up to today?"
#130: "Just picking up some things. What about TV shows. Does she have any favorite shows. Maybe you could get her a season on DVD."
Things like that a few times.
BTW, turns out she is dressed like crap bc she feels like crap and has a cold. She was at WM to get some DVDs and cold medicine.
Eventually I break her down and transition to personal stuff. A 25-min convo ensues. She freely gives up the digits but who knows whether she will flake or not. We shall see...
This was Wednesday afternoon at Super WM.
I am picking up a few necessities and see a very cute girl with an awesome bod in sweatpants and a tanktop and flip flops. I'd guess she is about 23. She is coming down one of the main aisles so I pause and she goes into the DVD section.
I follow slowly. See a dude all tatted up one aisle over and think it may be her bf, so I hang loose for a couple of minutes. She is now looking in the big bin of cheapo DVDs and some other lady is there at the bin, too. So I wait. She eventually gets near me in an aisle and I open her.
Me: "Find anything good?"
#130: "No, not yet."
Me: "What are you looking for?"
Blah blah
It is going nowhere fast so I make up BS about my friend who just got a huge LCD TV and I wanted to buy her some DVDs as gifts... but all she watches is chick flicks... so what kind of non-chick flick movies do chicks like?
She gives me some advice and points out a few movies. I try to transition out of the opener but she keeps me in the opener. This happens a few times.
Example:
#130: "She may like Batman. Is she into comicbook-based movies?"
Me: "Yeah, she might like that. So what are you up to today?"
#130: "Just picking up some things. What about TV shows. Does she have any favorite shows. Maybe you could get her a season on DVD."
Things like that a few times.
BTW, turns out she is dressed like crap bc she feels like crap and has a cold. She was at WM to get some DVDs and cold medicine.
Eventually I break her down and transition to personal stuff. A 25-min convo ensues. She freely gives up the digits but who knows whether she will flake or not. We shall see...
Approach #131
This is later Wednesday in the late afternoon at B&N.
I do my walk-through and see only one person possibly worth talking to. Wait, I take that back... there was one other girl but I couldn't tell if she was too young or not and she was looking at the test prep section. Shame on me... I could have gotten next to her to see if it was a SAT book or an MBA book.
Anyhow, there is this late-30's but still looking girl kind of blonde in the place. HUGE b@@bs. Otherwise pleasant face and body. She enters my aisle and I open her. She is looking for a book on whatever. She is one of those instantly-chatty people.
We have a very short 5-6 min convo then her son (approx 10 years old) rolls up! :nervous:
She keeps on with the convo so i do the same. Once the son is out of earshot, she half-whispers to me: "Are you single?"
I then have to discretely get her number into my phone without being obvious in front of the 10-y/o who is like 6 feet away! LOL. This is a first for me.
She seems ALL GO if you know what I mean. Keeping my fingers crossed. I called her 30 min later and we have plans for a drink at 9:30 Fri night. I shall keep you posted...
This is later Wednesday in the late afternoon at B&N.
I do my walk-through and see only one person possibly worth talking to. Wait, I take that back... there was one other girl but I couldn't tell if she was too young or not and she was looking at the test prep section. Shame on me... I could have gotten next to her to see if it was a SAT book or an MBA book.
Anyhow, there is this late-30's but still looking girl kind of blonde in the place. HUGE b@@bs. Otherwise pleasant face and body. She enters my aisle and I open her. She is looking for a book on whatever. She is one of those instantly-chatty people.
We have a very short 5-6 min convo then her son (approx 10 years old) rolls up! :nervous:
She keeps on with the convo so i do the same. Once the son is out of earshot, she half-whispers to me: "Are you single?"
I then have to discretely get her number into my phone without being obvious in front of the 10-y/o who is like 6 feet away! LOL. This is a first for me.
She seems ALL GO if you know what I mean. Keeping my fingers crossed. I called her 30 min later and we have plans for a drink at 9:30 Fri night. I shall keep you posted...
YoungSir4sho
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Good stuff man.. I have a few ?'s tho.. Other then da fact that I don't really like indirect openers.. Do u think it would b better to just start off with sayin let me ask u a ?... Then say r they single?? I mean it seems alot faster n to da point... I think I'm going to run with that opener all day Tom n report in my journal...
Also y do u use indirect gm instead of direct? I also prefer daygame but it is alot harder for real especially if u are by urself.. So for barnes n noble n stores is it better for those situational openers instead of just direct?? N keep up da good work..
Also y do u use indirect gm instead of direct? I also prefer daygame but it is alot harder for real especially if u are by urself.. So for barnes n noble n stores is it better for those situational openers instead of just direct?? N keep up da good work..
^^^
I like my indirect method, and here's why: just like #127, above, I think there is a certain % of girls who are either (a) shy and not comfortable meeting people just anywhere or (b) overly cautious and thinking everyone is Jack the Ripper. For those girls, a good convo will make her a heck of a lot more comfortable and more likely to give you her number.
I will admit the HB8.5s+ seem to almost universally be willing to be gamed anywhere at any time. It is almost like they appreciate seeing what kind of game you have to spit at them. In many ways, the really hot girls are easier to game. So, going super direct on them would probably have a higher success rate.
I will also admit it sucks to spend 30 minutes having a great convo with a girl to only find out at the end that she has a bf. BUT, most taken/uninterested girls won't talk to you for anywhere that length of time.
Try different things and see what works for you. A guy by the name of JWhite17 did the "Are you single" opener. So did a guy named Pugsley. This was years ago, before even my time on SS. DAFS and read their journals for more info.
I like my indirect method, and here's why: just like #127, above, I think there is a certain % of girls who are either (a) shy and not comfortable meeting people just anywhere or (b) overly cautious and thinking everyone is Jack the Ripper. For those girls, a good convo will make her a heck of a lot more comfortable and more likely to give you her number.
I will admit the HB8.5s+ seem to almost universally be willing to be gamed anywhere at any time. It is almost like they appreciate seeing what kind of game you have to spit at them. In many ways, the really hot girls are easier to game. So, going super direct on them would probably have a higher success rate.
I will also admit it sucks to spend 30 minutes having a great convo with a girl to only find out at the end that she has a bf. BUT, most taken/uninterested girls won't talk to you for anywhere that length of time.
Try different things and see what works for you. A guy by the name of JWhite17 did the "Are you single" opener. So did a guy named Pugsley. This was years ago, before even my time on SS. DAFS and read their journals for more info.
I've learned alot from reading you posts. Takes alot of balls to do what you do consistently.
I'm not used to approaching. I rarely do it but its definitely thrilling.
From what i'm seeing, the ones that work well for you/general are the quickest ones that end with you leaving and asking for their number
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The quick ones where you walk over and tell them you thought they were cute and had to talk to them and asked for their number and bounced.
This is assuming there was some sign of interest or increase of IL since you approached. Otherwise working in a convo to build rapport has proved fairly well for you too but it seems that the direct most confident quick approaches worked best.
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I guess i can't get over Approach Anxiety. Maybe if I never had chicks approach me i'd be more willing to, but i'm used to having atleast 1-2 chicks approach me every month or two. obviously not go for my number but they open convo's with me.
Another problem i have is I open all the time but only when i need to plus i never close.
I'll be in barnes and nobles and want to know where a section is or book and ask someone holding the same book, they tell me and i eject. I have no intentions of closing or even talking to them except for getting the info i need. I find this weird for myself since i get AA but have no problems approaching when i need to.
Maybe i need to set up approaches that fall in line with my objectives and close then bounce. I need to get over my AA.
My passive game has been working great until lately.
But i definitely prefer cold approaches. I may try to set up contest for newbies that have problems with cold approaches since i'm into competition.
I'm not used to approaching. I rarely do it but its definitely thrilling.
From what i'm seeing, the ones that work well for you/general are the quickest ones that end with you leaving and asking for their number
or
The quick ones where you walk over and tell them you thought they were cute and had to talk to them and asked for their number and bounced.
This is assuming there was some sign of interest or increase of IL since you approached. Otherwise working in a convo to build rapport has proved fairly well for you too but it seems that the direct most confident quick approaches worked best.
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I guess i can't get over Approach Anxiety. Maybe if I never had chicks approach me i'd be more willing to, but i'm used to having atleast 1-2 chicks approach me every month or two. obviously not go for my number but they open convo's with me.
Another problem i have is I open all the time but only when i need to plus i never close.
I'll be in barnes and nobles and want to know where a section is or book and ask someone holding the same book, they tell me and i eject. I have no intentions of closing or even talking to them except for getting the info i need. I find this weird for myself since i get AA but have no problems approaching when i need to.
Maybe i need to set up approaches that fall in line with my objectives and close then bounce. I need to get over my AA.
My passive game has been working great until lately.
But i definitely prefer cold approaches. I may try to set up contest for newbies that have problems with cold approaches since i'm into competition.
Peace and Quiet
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Approach #132
This is Sunday at Super WM.
See from afar what I thought was a young hottie on her way in from the parking lot a little behind me.
She eventually winds up in the contact lens solution aisle. I roll up.
"Do you wear contacts?"
Blah blah
She is from Ireland and covered in freckles. Not my thing. But I persist anyhow. Oh, and she is about 30. I was hoping for 23ish.
I try to transition to personal stuff and after a 3-4 min convo, she pulls the "It was nice talking to you" and walks off.
Next.
This is Sunday at Super WM.
See from afar what I thought was a young hottie on her way in from the parking lot a little behind me.
She eventually winds up in the contact lens solution aisle. I roll up.
"Do you wear contacts?"
Blah blah
She is from Ireland and covered in freckles. Not my thing. But I persist anyhow. Oh, and she is about 30. I was hoping for 23ish.
I try to transition to personal stuff and after a 3-4 min convo, she pulls the "It was nice talking to you" and walks off.
Next.
Approach #133
Same Super WM.
See a girl with an ok face and great body, about 30 years old, in the food aisles. I approach when she is looking at fruit roll ups.
"Do you still eat fruit roll ups?"
"NO, they're for my daughter."
Anyhow, for the heck of it, I continue on. Have about a 10-min convo. She is not very smart. Then this happens:
Me: "Well, I better let you get back to your shopping"
Her: "Let me give you my number"
Haha.
So fast forward 3 days and I can certify she is a flake. I texted, and she said she would text me later. Never did. I then call then next day, leave message, and no response.
And this was a girl who insisted I take her number.
What is up with these dumb ho's?
NEXT
Same Super WM.
See a girl with an ok face and great body, about 30 years old, in the food aisles. I approach when she is looking at fruit roll ups.
"Do you still eat fruit roll ups?"
"NO, they're for my daughter."
Anyhow, for the heck of it, I continue on. Have about a 10-min convo. She is not very smart. Then this happens:
Me: "Well, I better let you get back to your shopping"
Her: "Let me give you my number"
Haha.
So fast forward 3 days and I can certify she is a flake. I texted, and she said she would text me later. Never did. I then call then next day, leave message, and no response.
And this was a girl who insisted I take her number.
What is up with these dumb ho's?
NEXT
Approach #134
Same Super WM. Same day. And yes, I did bail after 3 approaches in one store on one day...
I see a cutie looking at the air fresheners. I ask for advice on whether Glade Plug-Ins or Febreeze Plug-Ins are better.
Very easy convo, I ask about her accent to transition to personal stuff, and she does not try to run off at all. We talk about 15 minutes.
Keep in mind this is a Sunday at WM and it is busy. We get interrupted about 5 times by people who ask us to move to get to the sh!t on the shelves behind us.
I close but she has a bf. Hmmm... wonder what that bf thinks about you talking to strange men for 15 min+ at the WM.
Next!
Same Super WM. Same day. And yes, I did bail after 3 approaches in one store on one day...
I see a cutie looking at the air fresheners. I ask for advice on whether Glade Plug-Ins or Febreeze Plug-Ins are better.
Very easy convo, I ask about her accent to transition to personal stuff, and she does not try to run off at all. We talk about 15 minutes.
Keep in mind this is a Sunday at WM and it is busy. We get interrupted about 5 times by people who ask us to move to get to the sh!t on the shelves behind us.
I close but she has a bf. Hmmm... wonder what that bf thinks about you talking to strange men for 15 min+ at the WM.
Next!
Composite Approach #135
This is Monday at lunchtime at Border's.
What a LOSER of a sarging day!
First I approach a hot women about 35 or so.
"FInd anything good?"
"No" And she walks off.
Next I approach a young (I'd guess about 20) girl.
"Do you read a lot of fiction?"
Blah blah
Then she says, "Well I need to be going now" and walks off about 60 seconds in.
Next I sit in a chair next to a cute girl in her waitress uniform. After 5 min I look over.
"Is that one of those Manga books?"
I SWEAR-- this girl did not move her head but ONLY HER EYES and mumbles, "Yes."
I then ask, "Is that like a comic book?" Same response! I get up and walk off.
I was in the cafe earlier, and a very cute girl was typing away on her laptop. She is now looking at books.
"Shouldn't you be working away on your laptop?"
"Ummm, no." And walks off!
Finally, I go back to the cafe and sit next to a girl who has been there for an hour. Within 10 seconds of my sitting at the table next to hers, she packs up and leaves!
CRAPPY, CRAPPY DAY!
Lol
I hope to have better news next time, lol
This is Monday at lunchtime at Border's.
What a LOSER of a sarging day!
First I approach a hot women about 35 or so.
"FInd anything good?"
"No" And she walks off.
Next I approach a young (I'd guess about 20) girl.
"Do you read a lot of fiction?"
Blah blah
Then she says, "Well I need to be going now" and walks off about 60 seconds in.
Next I sit in a chair next to a cute girl in her waitress uniform. After 5 min I look over.
"Is that one of those Manga books?"
I SWEAR-- this girl did not move her head but ONLY HER EYES and mumbles, "Yes."
I then ask, "Is that like a comic book?" Same response! I get up and walk off.
I was in the cafe earlier, and a very cute girl was typing away on her laptop. She is now looking at books.
"Shouldn't you be working away on your laptop?"
"Ummm, no." And walks off!
Finally, I go back to the cafe and sit next to a girl who has been there for an hour. Within 10 seconds of my sitting at the table next to hers, she packs up and leaves!
CRAPPY, CRAPPY DAY!
Lol
I hope to have better news next time, lol
Flakes!!!!
BTW, I got 6 numbers in a little over a week and ALL, read ALL, of them were total flakes. Some of the convos were 30 min or more, and some of the girls suggested I take their number without my even asking.
GIRLS ARE STUPID BY NATURE... never forget that.
BTW, I got 6 numbers in a little over a week and ALL, read ALL, of them were total flakes. Some of the convos were 30 min or more, and some of the girls suggested I take their number without my even asking.
GIRLS ARE STUPID BY NATURE... never forget that.
Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
^^^
I don't get discouraged b/c I've been through dry spells before. For 2 months in May and June of this year, it was all flakes all the time.
Then in July I met a really hot chick that I went out with a few times, and I met 2 other pretty girls I am still banging once a week to this very day. In August I met another hot chick I went out with twice.
I was going nuts, however, in May and June wondering what the heck was wrong with me.
It all ebbs and flows.
I don't care for night game... I don't like to drink, I don't like to breath smoke, I don't like to be out too late, I don't have a wing, I hate how my ears ring after having loud music pumped in them, and I am looking for a GF and I really don't think my type of girl will be found at a bar at 11pm on a Tuesday night.
Having said that, what night game has going for it is a lot of hot chicks all in one place at one time.
I don't get discouraged b/c I've been through dry spells before. For 2 months in May and June of this year, it was all flakes all the time.
Then in July I met a really hot chick that I went out with a few times, and I met 2 other pretty girls I am still banging once a week to this very day. In August I met another hot chick I went out with twice.
I was going nuts, however, in May and June wondering what the heck was wrong with me.
It all ebbs and flows.
I don't care for night game... I don't like to drink, I don't like to breath smoke, I don't like to be out too late, I don't have a wing, I hate how my ears ring after having loud music pumped in them, and I am looking for a GF and I really don't think my type of girl will be found at a bar at 11pm on a Tuesday night.
Having said that, what night game has going for it is a lot of hot chicks all in one place at one time.
Approach #136
This is Thursday at B&N in the afternoon.
See what I thought was an ok-ish chick in the bargain books. I open her by asking, "Is that Salvador Dali?" as she is looking in an art book.
Very easy convo follows, she is asking me lots of questions and taking interest. She is too old, however. I mean, to get a new notch, I guess I would bang her but wouldn't want to leave my house to do so. Got her number just for the sake of it. Blah.
This is Thursday at B&N in the afternoon.
See what I thought was an ok-ish chick in the bargain books. I open her by asking, "Is that Salvador Dali?" as she is looking in an art book.
Very easy convo follows, she is asking me lots of questions and taking interest. She is too old, however. I mean, to get a new notch, I guess I would bang her but wouldn't want to leave my house to do so. Got her number just for the sake of it. Blah.
Approach #137
Same B&N. See a cute blonde looking at GRE books. I open her and the convo is sorta forced. It is almost like me interviewing her. She starts to loosen up a tiny bit until the employee comes in our aisle and asks us to move so she can show books to some dopey looking guy. Then within a minute or so she does a "nice talking to you" and walks off.
Her loss. Next!
Same B&N. See a cute blonde looking at GRE books. I open her and the convo is sorta forced. It is almost like me interviewing her. She starts to loosen up a tiny bit until the employee comes in our aisle and asks us to move so she can show books to some dopey looking guy. Then within a minute or so she does a "nice talking to you" and walks off.
Her loss. Next!
Approach #138
This is at Borders Thursday afternoon. See a really pretty girl. i open her and try to get a convo going, but she doesn't say much then walks off. Her loss. But I am glad I was on a streak opening pretty easily on Thursday. Next!
This is at Borders Thursday afternoon. See a really pretty girl. i open her and try to get a convo going, but she doesn't say much then walks off. Her loss. But I am glad I was on a streak opening pretty easily on Thursday. Next!
Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.