this site has become poison

[entropy]

Long time reader, first time poster. Bear with me on errors and such, my fingers can't keep up with my brain.........

to whom it may concern and to whom it applies

I happened upon this site about a year and a half ago, searching for ideas for a date on the net. It was a godsend (then). The information was pertinent and of good quality, and it has helped me tremendously. Things are going well in my life, and instead of turning my back on the principles that changed me for the better, i still come here to refresh, and expand on that knowledge.

But......


Latetly this site has become poison (in general and especially this forum). It was a gradual decay, ignorable at first, but lately you have to weed through the crap (and that's alot) to find the substance. To use an analogy, this site has become what Branch Davidians are to Christianity (apt for i believe(d) these principales to be a religion of sorts).

What the hell happened? When i think of a Don Juan i think of a romantic guy who sweeps women off their feet with the fires of their passion (kinda like the don juan of literature, you know where the meaning behind the name came from in the first place). This site i believe was intended for people looking to find romance and who were frustrated by what things have BECOME.
Now this site should be called.......How TA BE A PLAYA AND PIMP HOS. We just need some dolomite referances. In fact i'm suprised their isn't a thread dealing with what kind of cane to buy, and how to get back spin on the back hand you give your ho. Must urban decay infect everything? Which brings me to my point (if i even have one)..........


THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION

Yes it's true. Look at the current state of things. Marriage is such a gamble, your better off buying a lottery ticket. Single mommies have become the rule rather than the exception. Film and music, have become crap, with emphasis placed on gloss rather than substance (there isn't any btw don't bother trying to find it, just look at the attractive face). Morals, the staple of western civilization and all that it entails have dissappeared. Instead hedonism and instant gratification have become religion. Everyones become self-centered and occupied with stealing your g/f, doing M.i.l.f's, trying to fufill the hype hollywood has fed us, and whatever else they do to contribute to societys downfall.

Look at some of the threads like....."how to steal someones girlfriend".
How about a thread like....."how to dispose of the body of the wanna-be pimp who's messing with your girl"

wtf!? first why do you want a girl like that, does she have integrity? nope, but i forgot you just wanna get laid. Getting laid is a biological imperative, but so is finding a mate. Love exists for a reason (to avoid the void you all feel, wether you admit it or not). The biggest lie you'll ever hear is.....I'm not looking for someone right now (deciphered....i don't wanna commit i just wanna f*** and/or i've been burned and i'm fed up so instead of having character and perserverance i wanna be part of the disease).

Which brings me to another point.

You can't fight nature. Nature will win. This age we live in of conveinance and consumerism will pass, it has to. The consumption of natural resources it takes to sustain this lifestlye says it will, unless those resources are unlimited and they are not.

We are animals, but a differant kind. We need to support our offspring for years before they become self sufficent in this world.
Thats why nature made the family model. That model is almost destroyed. So you don't want to adhere to that model, you want to be a rock star, and sleep with a million women? Who the f*** doesn't? But can we all have that? No. We all can't be heros (otherwise they'd lose their significance), we all can't be doctors and lawyers (someone has to clean toilets), and we all can't be pimps (i hate that word but you all identify with it).

Man prides himself as being above animals or being at the pinnacle of the animal kingdom. Are we? Animals aren't treacherous, theyre not deceptive. They don't destroy their environments. In fact they have no choice, but we do. We were given a brain, and we don't use it. Sure we all have desires, but if you can't control them, then your no better, nay worse than the squirrels you see frolicing in you front yard
Lately when i come this site i feel hopeless about the future of this world. Everyone wants to be part of the disease, and nobody wants to be part of the cure. The newbs come here, and post their drivel, lie and expound on tales of conquest, provide links to pictures of girls they date to feed their ego, an impress us (it works ) They've infecting this site.

I don't know, i don't really have a point i guess. I'm just an anomaly, who finds no gratification in sleeping with a sucession of women, tried it and it makes me feel empty inside. I believe you leave a piece of yourself with each person you sleep with. Maybe thats why some of you are empty. I'm just mad and rambling....sorry playa hating. Theres nothing that can be done about it.
So everyone go out today, and hate thy neighbor, sleep with his wife, bone his milf mom, lie, feed your ego, leech, pump n dump (i.e. sire bastard kids), who cares? it's all about you and your needs of the moment right? Nevermind that depression is at an all time high, civilization is eroding, and happiness (true happiness not what momentarilly makes you happy) is hard to find. Might as well be like a animal and blindly f*** your way through life. Conscienceness (all definitons) is a big pain in the a** and only gets in the way.

Gotta go i see a HOTBABE 7.33321445



discalimer.........

spare me your pseudo-freudian-pyscho-analysis. in your heart of hearts you know i'm right. you don't know me so can't accurately diagnose me. My opionon can be deduced about most of you by what you post. I'm pi**ed off, i freely admit it.

 

[entropy]

i forgot to ask you guys something..........


when i'm with a hot babe 8 to the 6th power squared, and she asks for a stick of gum, should i have juicy fruit or double mint. i'm so confused!!!!!!

 

[Zero0ne]

No matter how much technology mankind creates, our basic instincts remain. Do you really think that 3000 years of civilization could suddenly make us choose love over lust? Come on... look at any species on the planet, their basic instincts are to find the most suitable mate and then procreate. Love is never a factor. Humans have created a word to discribe the sanitary side of lust.

Aaaand, I'm spent.

P.S: I prefer Winterfresh.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Fun stuff.

One question.

You were here a year and a half and read a good deal.

Posted zilch.

And now you feel moved to complain about the decay of the forum?



Whoah.



And it appears you can post pretty decently. Wtf were you so silent for?

Somewhere there's a quote about--I dunno--evil succeeds when others stand by silent...look it up. Put that in with your signature. Then post some more.

 

[StockTrader]

entropy,

I read a book recently, "The Fourth Turning", it's about how American generations go through cycles. Very interesting book. It describes why we, as a generation, are the way we are. The moral decline of the US won't go on forever.

 

[entropy]

Annnnnd we have the first idiot. Technology has actually been detrimental to our evoltution. Lets take a look at the past and use hunter gatherer groups as our model. They weren't pimps and playas cause they needed to trust and rely on each other. Sure there were probably some cases of infedility. But then again there were cases of that hunter not coming back from the hunt either. All species operate on differant principles. Love is a reality and a necessity. Sure we all feel lust and hatred their natural emotions and destructive ones. MY POINT IS THAT YOU HAVE A WILL WHERE ANIMALS DON"T AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO IGNORE YOUR EMOTIONS. MANKIND IS AN EXCEPTION OF ALL BIOLOGICAL ORGANISM ON EARTH IN THAT HE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO PROCREATE AND CHOOSE TO IGNORE INSTICTS. Once again everyone wants to be part of the disease because it's sooooooooooooooooooooo easy anymore. You try and use logic and everything else to justify actions. Intelligence is mans gifts, or if you possess it his curse.

 

[entropy]

I was silent because i had nothing to contribute. I'm contributing something. being a dj is trying to be all you can be. so are morals.



your right our generational values aren't going to last forever because theyre corrupt and contrary to nature. they'll destruct and revert to the way nature intended.


i can't fight the world, and i can't even fight this forum. my ideas aren't popular, because they demand discipline. I'm not a hippocrite, i try real hard to be a good man. am i misanthrop? yep if you have any intelligence and two eyes, how can you not be?

 

[Miss Anthropic]

Miss Anthropic realizes the deadly consequences of overstaying her welcome on her first visit, but cannot resist and thus must address the hapless queries of one who seems not without some small wisdom, albeit if it is a bit confused.

Point by feckless point, then?:

Long time reader, first time poster. Bear with me on errors and such, my fingers can't keep up with my brain.........

A daunting dilemna considering the location of most men's brains, Miss Anthropic gently notes, although she has personally never witnessed this particular problem in the men she is acquainted with.

I happened upon this site about a year and a half ago, searching for ideas for a date on the net. It was a godsend (then). The information was pertinent and of good quality, and it has helped me tremendously. Things are going well in my life, and instead of turning my back on the principles that changed me for the better, i still come here to refresh, and expand on that knowledge.

But......


Latetly this site has become poison (in general and especially this forum). It was a gradual decay, ignorable at first, but lately you have to weed through the crap (and that's alot) to find the substance. To use an analogy, this site has become what Branch Davidians are to Christianity (apt for i believe(d) these principales to be a religion of sorts).
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And what, she asks, was wrong with the Branch Davidians? They operated completely within the parameters of the law and were made example of for one thing: Their refusal to capitulate to a tyrannical government who, in turn, prostituted the media to every advantage to render them as nothing more than a hippiefreak and his teenage brides. She also notes with some irony, a position most of you would gladly adopt, perhaps without the Unfortunate Consequences (but asks that you study the periphery of his psychology all the same - after all, each of those women willfully died with him and that's a loyalty that should inspire you all). But this was not your point. And because your post is adequately verbose, she shall select and sum the more arguable highlights:

The Decline of Western Civilization ... thats why nature made the family model.

Nature did not. In fact, Nature avers the survival of the fittest. Nowhere in Nature do you see marriages, arranged or otherwise, and certainly not divorce.

At the base root of it, from where I sit, this site seems divided into two specific parts: Those who want to be players fancying that somehow in the end it will fulfill that inward absence which they so desperately lack (hint: Spines) and those who are, for whatever reasons, clueless about the Nature of Women and fiinding no other avenue of direction have landed here in hopes of gleaning some gold from all of the other evident silt.

You can imagine which sort Miss Anthropic has her sights set on then.

She also does not know whether you are cranky from not having some intrinsic need fulfilled or perhaps on the ever greater path of enlightenment, but earnestly hopes for the latter. Your points, although not remarkable, are indeed evidences of an intellect that perhaps has outgrown the school in which he has traversed, but doesn't yet know enough to leave with his diploma in hand.

Man prides himself as being above animals or being at the pinnacle of the animal kingdom. Are we? Animals aren't treacherous, theyre not deceptive. They don't destroy their environments. In fact they have no choice, but we do. We were given a brain, and we don't use it. Sure we all have desires, but if you can't control them, then your no better, nay worse than the squirrels you see frolicing in you front yard
Lately when i come this site i feel hopeless about the future of this world. Everyone wants to be part of the disease, and nobody wants to be part of the cure. The newbs come here, and post their drivel, lie and expound on tales of conquest, provide links to pictures of girls they date to feed their ego, an impress us (it works ) They've infecting this site.

No one can make you feel any way without your consent. Now repeat this three times and you'll feel better in the mourning. To aver that man cannot control his desire is what got all of you here in the first place. Because ultimately, it is that control that a woman has over you (or your perception of it) that causes these dilemnas and entanglements and power brokerages.

Women, as a rule, really don't choose this, you know. I am not saying we don't exploit it or manipulate you because of it, but then that would be our nature. Still, it (our jiggly parts and your reactions to them) is not an innate choice. You would do well to remember as much, because women, being primarily a Yin phenomenon need men to be that counterbalance: Yang.

I am crafty and clever and cunning, and for at least a few years more - cute. This predisposes me to the top of the dungheap of humanity and affords me my pick of the most virile, evolved males without my having to expend too much effort. Now, before you hate me completely for that, know that for all of my sarcasm and banter, I too am faced with the dilemna of what it is to know a man who is stronger (intellectually, physically, spiritually, et al) than I am. And that is what I mean by 'Spines'.

In short?

It isn't that women do not want 'Nice Guys'; it's just that we don't want weak ones.

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by entropy
This site i believe was intended for people looking to find romance and who were frustrated by what things have BECOME.
Now this site should be called.......How TA BE A PLAYA AND PIMP HOS.

is this a joke?

i was honestly going to start a thread that this place has taken the exact opposite direction than what you just said.

secondly, find ROMANCE?????????????? , are you stoned, how old are you 12? if its romance you want try turning on a tv or read a womans romance novel.

what the phuck is this sh!t?


btw if it was a joke i apologise , i stopped reading after that bit, im trying to purge my mind of fantastical garbage not clutter it up with even more.

 

[jakethasnake]

Fabulous discussion. Just fascintating. *watches from the sidelines in anticipation*

 

[Austin Allegro]

'Intelligence is mans gifts, or if you possess it his curse.'

What on earth does that mean?

Entropy, I understand your basic ideas but you really need to work on your spelling, grammar and punctuation. The decline in basic literacy is surely part of the general decline in civilization you are talking about, is it not?

 

[Sir Jeffrey]

I would have to say that I empathize with entropy's frustration. I see many of my friends lead shallow lives with the perception that getting fine women is the end-all goal in life. It's a bull**** way to live, and think. I've also been victim to this way of thinking, and it got me nowhere. There was a four weekend streak about a month and half ago where I got action from a girl, if not two, every weekend. My friends admired me for my exploits. You know what I said back?: something along the lines of "Man, I really don't give a **** about all that." Because I didn't. It was fun at the time, but in the long run produces nothing that I can look back and be proud of. A man should base his esteem on something other than his ability to get women, and I think that is what a Don Juan is. I look at this site for advice on how to think and act like a man's man, not some vagina-fiend. Don't ever be enslaved to ass, because it's bondage that holds you down.

I think entropy's frustration results from him seeing posts by vagina-fiends looking for angles on how to satisfy their addiction. Pimps are repuslive to me. Don Juans are magnetic. Which one do you want to be? Another thing is, like or not, women are still human beings, and deserve some sort of respect.

I'm kind of ranting, but I just think that entropy's words are valid, and instead of picking him apart or flexing intellect (Miss Anthropic) in retort, we should try to TALK to him and sort of collaborate on a solution to the problem. Entropy doesn't feel right, and like Bob Dylan said "If it doesn't feel right it's wrong." There's something wrong, and we can work together to form...something. Something that will help everyone out. A conclusion.

 

[Sir Jeffrey]

Another thing is...if he misspelled something or expressed his opinion by incorrectly using a historical analogy, who gives a f^ck? You can obviously feel the essence of what he's trying to say, and to reply by commenting on the way he said it, is evading the issue, and isn't very productive. Would a don juan do that? Would he pick someone apart like that? Would he point out things that are insignificant to the discussion as a whole?

I'm not a Don Juan. I'm not a man's man. But I aspire to be one. I'm just acknowledging that so no one can say "well who the f^uck are you?"

 

[jakethasnake]

Good for you, Sir Jeffrey. I really do miss the days when we were all humble students of 'the Way', minus the colossal egos.

 

[Aramas]

I know where you're coming from. Most of the posters on this forum want to live in a R&B music video.

 

[Austin Allegro]

Originally posted by Sir Jeffrey
Another thing is...if he misspelled something or expressed his opinion by incorrectly using a historical analogy, who gives a f^ck? You can obviously feel the essence of what he's trying to say, and to reply by commenting on the way he said it, is evading the issue, and isn't very productive. Would a don juan do that? Would he pick someone apart like that? Would he point out things that are insignificant to the discussion as a whole?

I'm not a Don Juan. I'm not a man's man. But I aspire to be one. I'm just acknowledging that so no one can say "well who the f^uck are you?"

I stand by what I wrote. I said I understood his basic ideas, but that is not enough for a proper debate. An inability to spell, punctuate or use grammar properly is part and parcel of the decline that Entropy is complaining about.

 

[( . )( . )]

bah pimps, don juans , tomato tomato, all i see is a bunch of people interested in getting snatch and another bunch of people who are lying to themselves (because it certainly isnt the rest of us with half a brain who believe them) .



im honestly bamboozled of all this talk of late, its as if ive entered the twilight zone and the exact same sh!t i thought i had escaped from when i found this place , is now common topics and train of thought here.

surely some of you other guys know what im talking about, you know: "guys who just want snatch are disgusting", im in it for the true love/romance", "listen to these women, they know what theyre talking about" blah blah blah etc etc, surely someone knows what im talking about , hell all you have to do is click on any topic to see a shining example.

in short, whats going on here, i DO NOT remember it being like this......................................unless ive changed?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Entropy sounds like PuertoRican_Lover - is this a plot to deceive us?

Kudos 'Entropy" a DJ with a backbone and conviction! I didn't think they existed on this site in the few weeks since I been here. Your analysis is 100% right on target and parallel my sentiments exactly. I ask to read the thread "knock it off!!!!!!" where I express the same viewpoints and my view on all threads are ridiculed - for taking the stand that you are taking - so don't be surprised if they chastise and ridicule you!

I came to the same conclusion about the wh@remongering on this site the first day I came here last month and I never knew how it was in the past. You don't need to compare shyt with the finest aromas to know that it has a foul smell, do you? Our physical nerve endings in our nostrils automatically tell us that.

But there are also non-physical nerve endings - so to speak - that tells us that there is something wrong with the smell and stench of our society and these are called values, morals, spirituality, and consequences.

But do DJ's take heed to there non-physical desires, from what I get here on this site is , they emphatically do not!!

I ask that you read the thread that I created two days ago trying to create guidance on the very same issue that you speak of, because I saw the dearth of understanding of what really is a Don Juan and how they have corrupted its' meaning by their current day values and mindset - it is called "Don Juan Code of Conduct". I would appreciate your feedback.

I think these neophytes to romance need some guidance and our presence here may be the solution - you got something from this site in the past so it is your duty to share with us what you got from it and how you have used for guidance. Your advice is the cost that you must pay for the goods received (advice) from prior DJ's (to put it in accounting terms ) .

The DJ's before came here for a purpose and to fulfill a need and for self-improvement. The so-called DJ's of today (some, not all)come here to feed their ego's and strengthen their strategies to pimp their wh@res - what value is their in doing this?

And for you guys who are thinking that I created another DJ name called "entropy" who has never posted before to support my own arguments and trying to lead you on to my way of thinking, you are mistaken. Some DJ's actually do have values and do I dare say the "M" word - yes I will - MORALS.

Entropy - I can't believe you used such a dirty word on sosuave!

There is a need for more introspection from all of us on sosuave and only then can we know in what areas we need to improve.


Peace

 

[Charisma]

He has it all wrong no ? Like the other guy stated ... finding romance ? I came here about two years ago, and rejoined again two weeks ago I think. Back then I was almost shocked by the articles lol. Is he misinterpreting them or something ? If you read the current bible and that hall of fame thing, they sure as hell give you tons of tips on how to weed out and make your pick. That doesn't mean you're a pimp .. that means you won't just hang on to one chiq for one year and another for another year .. it's meant to give you the abilities to find a woman that you absolutely like no ? The forum is still the same as when I left, one out of 60 posts has some value, the others are just AFC's trying to learn and making mistakes .. and that's ok. I read up on the bible and hall of fame articles once in a while, to improve myself. In the end what this is for is so we can PICK the woman we want (and be romantic with or whatever) instead of being PICKED by a woman, or having to SETTLE FOR LESS .. If this site ever posted articles about how to be romantci with women, I would have turned into an ultimate afc, doing the most absurd **** on dates for sure. This site saved me from years of frustration, I'm sure of that. And again the current bible is pretty sweet, read that instead of the 'I wanne dump my load in this chiq but she has a dude already' .. don't read those topics, you know they suck anyway.

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I'm sorry I think I misinterpreted, you're saying the same as I just said I think .. that the current threads are garbage ? But you call them DJ's .. they are not, they are delirious. Just read the bible and those other old threads, and ask a question once in a while, that's alot better.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Another DJ with conviction to speak the truth!

Sir Jeffrey - where have you been? Did you just come out the closet?

Your point is right on the mark - we have another DJ with a backbone and conviction and unafraid of others for taking a stand on a just cause. He has even commented on his "shallow" conquests and its' insignificance to the totality of things in his life and actually told his friends this!!!!

Damn, a man confident enough in himself to say this is truly a "master Don Juan" - in the true sense of the word - he has mastered himself.

Kudos to you bro, for telling the truth of how you feel to your friends - I bet they respect you more now for saying it (a quiet respect") Everything that you and entropy saiid are very true.

Jeffrey this is excellent insight you gave us "Pimps are repuslive to me. Don Juans are magnetic." - there is no need to expound on it further!!

and i say - ;'/[ the hell with[=., syntax.'l[;;..and grammar!!<',.:-
This is not a college!