This is my last stand against unhappiness- An honest letter

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^^^ We may desire to have women, but it's not a basic necessity in order for us to survive. You can fvck as many women as you want without needing them, just start wanting them. As soon as you, or anyone else, realize that it's a desire and not a need, you'll make out like gang busters. When you make women a "want" instead of a "need", you're whole demeanor will change. The way you act around women, the way you talk to a woman, and the way you fvck women often will change.

Remember, guys, having a woman is not a need. It's only a want, and when you realize that, you'll start having success.
 

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Mavrick said:
^^^ We may desire to have women, but it's not a basic necessity in order for us to survive. You can fvck as many women as you want without needing them, just start wanting them. As soon as you, or anyone else, realize that it's a desire and not a need, you'll make out like gang busters. When you make women a "want" instead of a "need", you're whole demeanor will change. The way you act around women, the way you talk to a woman, and the way you fvck women often will change.

Remember, guys, having a woman is not a need. It's only a want, and when you realize that, you'll start having success.
Is it?

If I remember correctly, it was scientifically reported that single men tended to die earlier, or something along those lines.

Long-term male virgins were reported as being extremely vulnerable to depression and likewise, more prone to sickness and earlier death.

What is our core biological purpose? Isn't it to propagate our genes onto the next generation? That cannot occur without a woman.

No, women are not "necessary" to live one's life, but I'd say they are an extremely strong "want" that does indeed come very very close to being a "need".

Me? I've lived 27 years of my life without a single girl in my life. If anyone's managed to adjust living life without having to "need" a woman, it's me. The same way someone who's been born without legs has adjusted to living without legs. That hasn't helped at all in getting a girl though.
 

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Is it?

If I remember correctly, it was scientifically reported that single men tended to die earlier, or something along those lines.

Long-term male virgins were reported as being extremely vulnerable to depression and likewise, more prone to sickness and earlier death.

What is our core biological purpose? Isn't it to propagate our genes onto the next generation? That cannot occur without a woman.

No, women are not "necessary" to live one's life, but I'd say they are an extremely strong "want" that does indeed come very very close to being a "need".

Me? I've lived 27 years of my life without a single girl in my life. If anyone's managed to adjust living life without having to "need" a woman, it's me. The same way someone who's been born without legs has adjusted to living without legs. That hasn't helped at all in getting a girl though.
Maybe your problem is that you aren't listening to those who have had women and many women at that. I certainly have, and I assure you that what I'm saying is true. There is a psychological struggle between men and women, and the more you show that you need her, the more turned off she'll be.

Anything you chase runs away.

As for anyone else. Take your advice from someone that has had experience with women, and not someone who hasn't. All he can tell you is how miserable you can be without a woman, but he doesn't even realize that you can be miserable with a woman. Make a woman your world, and you'll soon find out. Make your life your whole world, and draw her in.

Be happy first in order to make her happy being with you. If you don't, it won't last.
 
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I was gonna make a new post,but seeing as how I have done enough of that,I figure I would use this. Look,me,the op,maxtro,orly,and countless others out there like me have been struggling with all these issues. Now I don't know about everyone else, but it is eating away at me,from when I get up to when I go to sleep,with few stops from it. It is this emptiness,anger,and unhappiness,in which nothing can fill. I have tried to,doesn't work. As a matter of fact,I have been jacking it to porn alot this past week. Alot. 2,3 times a day. I don't know what it is. It feels like this side of me I am missing,have not tapped into,this denial of sorts. Or a different way of seeing things.

As for showing you need women,do we or don't we? I mean,was it always that way? What about having a wife and family? when do the emotions come into play,when do they not? I mean,if you aren't chasing them as you say,how do you get them to chase you? This is where guy's like myself get confused? Or what about having a steady long term thing? What if you don't just want to hook up one after the other? I mean,maybe I am looking at things differently,while trying to see the light as you say. I feel like everything is stacked against me. You say make you're like you're world,how do you do that? i mean I work,go to school,and in between that,do what I Can. I have gotten very accustomed to coming home,and doing little to nothing except getting angrier at myself and my situation. I mean, what if you aren't this all out great guy as described on here? what if you're just regular? Or is that not appealing to the 9's and 10's?

The whole not having kids and passing the genes on thing,that's what has me worried.

I mean,am I taking this too serious? Or,is it cause maybe I haven't reached the goals I would like,school,career,financial success,etc,that I am feeling like this?
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
I was gonna make a new post,but seeing as how I have done enough of that,I figure I would use this. Look,me,the op,maxtro,orly,and countless others out there like me have been struggling with all these issues. Now I don't know about everyone else, but it is eating away at me,from when I get up to when I go to sleep,with few stops from it. It is this emptiness,anger,and unhappiness,in which nothing can fill. I have tried to,doesn't work. As a matter of fact,I have been jacking it to porn alot this past week. Alot. 2,3 times a day. I don't know what it is. It feels like this side of me I am missing,have not tapped into,this denial of sorts. Or a different way of seeing things.

As for showing you need women,do we or don't we? I mean,was it always that way? What about having a wife and family? when do the emotions come into play,when do they not? I mean,if you aren't chasing them as you say,how do you get them to chase you? This is where guy's like myself get confused? Or what about having a steady long term thing? What if you don't just want to hook up one after the other? I mean,maybe I am looking at things differently,while trying to see the light as you say. I feel like everything is stacked against me. You say make you're like you're world,how do you do that? i mean I work,go to school,and in between that,do what I Can. I have gotten very accustomed to coming home,and doing little to nothing except getting angrier at myself and my situation. I mean, what if you aren't this all out great guy as described on here? what if you're just regular? Or is that not appealing to the 9's and 10's?

The whole not having kids and passing the genes on thing,that's what has me worried.

I mean,am I taking this too serious? Or,is it cause maybe I haven't reached the goals I would like,school,career,financial success,etc,that I am feeling like this?

Yah dood. You are taking it WAAAAAAY to serious. which is why nobody wants to fock you. Lighten the hell up buddy.

Life is to be enjoyed. What do you enjoy in life? Write me back and tell me that. What is fun in your life? What is great in your life? If you can't anwser that you have bigger problems than women. Women are the band-aid/shield you use to hid the rest of your misery behind.

Now if you can tell me what brings you joy...then you are just overthinking the woman thing. Women are nothing.

I've been married and been single. I've been a nerd and been a player. The most important thing to remember is that life goes on. It's your life. It's not your wifes, not your girlfriends, not your kids. It's your POV on this universe nobody else will ever see this world like you do. Now you have to decide how to frame that picture. That's up to you. Nobody else can decide that for you.

A woman (if you let her) can make you miserable. Trust me I know. I turned to drinking and weed to escape my personal hell. Which only made things worse. A man has to deal with his problems or they will only get worse and it will just take that much longer to deal with.

You have to decide today to deal with your problems. Right now. You either decide to fix what's wrong, whatever it takes or you get to shut the fock up about your problems from now on. It's that simple. That is manhood.

Once you decide to fix it, that should immediately make you feel better. because you made up your mind. it doesnt matter that you don't know how to fix it. it will come to you. you will learn as you go. but the fact that you decided and now you take action defines what sort of man you are. You are a man who knows his mind and takes action. Your not a boy crying for someone to please fix you.

Take time to look into every area of your life besides women and see what you want. How is your family life? Your school life? Your financial life? You health? Your social life? Your spiritual life? See how much you have to keep you busy in life besides women? Women should be for fun and easy companionship, a short brief refuge from dealing with the real business of your life until the time you find the right woman to make a part of your life.

Work on sorting your life out. Work on getting your mind wrapped around what you do and don't believe, what you do and don't stand for as a man. Who you are.

Look as women as something fun to do, they are the original playstation bro. They are not to be taken serious until you are ready in your life for a wife and children. There is an old african saying...which I am applying to my life now...

The man builds the hut, then gets the wife.



Build your life, then get the woman you want. Until then...women are for fun. Repeat that a million times. To hell with 9's and 10's why pressure yourself like that. Just put women in two catogories. Sexable/Unsexable. And go have fun with the sexable ones!
 

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Ok. I'm going to try to address this the best way I can.

You do not need to be the HAPPIEST guy on earth before you go after the ladies. And the challenge of the chase in itself can bring happiness -- If you have became secure with yourself.

However, you should at the very least be content with yourself and confident in the fact that you are a man with plenty of good things to offer the opposite sex and deserve sex just as much as any other guy.

If you do not meet the above criteria before trying, you are doomed to fail with women. By that, I don't mean it will be impossible to get laid. It can happen. But it will be significantly harder to do, and you're going to find yourself an emotional mess. Most likely developing too much attachment way to fast, and coming off as needy. Rejection is not something that someone with low self esteem needs, and neediness is the quickest way to get dumped.

What I see happening A LOT with buddies of mine who insist that all they need in their life to make them happy is a good woman is this: They settle for the first girl who will give them a phone number. They honestly don't do to bad of a job on the approach and the pick-up and sealing the deal, but not too long after getting in the honey pot, they revert back to AFC type behaviors, and it always ends in disappointing breakup. Then they spend a week dwelling on it, and in some cases act like wusses and beg for her to take them back (the best way not to get taken back)

My advice on how to fix the situation?


You've got to follow the number 1 rule of DJing, baby. And do YOU know what that is? It's YOU. Catch my drift? The point of being a DJ is doing what makes YOU happy. Just remember. It's all about YOU.

What does that mean? Get your head straight. And remind yourself that you are #1.

- Take a look at yourself in the mirror and go beyond that you are a good looking guy. Take note of the features that make you attractive. Go ahead.

- Take an inventory of your skills and talents. What are you the best at? Then commit yourself to improving on those skills.

- Take an inventory of your weaknesses. If you can improve on those weaknesses, make a game plan with realistic, but challenging goals and do it. Every time you accomplish one of those goals, take pride in the improvements that you are making.

- EXERCISE! Whether you are overweight or not, exercise in the long run improves your confidence, your mood, makes you look better, reduces stress, and helps you live longer.

- While you're at it, drink plenty of water and eat right too. That doesn't mean you have to cut all junk food out of your diet. That just means take the junk food for what it is --- Junk food. If you want the energy to go through your day like you want to, then you've got to give it the right fuel. And anyway, cooked food tastes better.

- Your body is your temple. Treat it as such. This of course includes the obvious things like keeping your nails trimmed, your hair neat, your teeth white & breath non-stinky, and being clean in general.

- Dress you're best at all times. Whatever style you like, thats fine. Just make sure that you're colors match, you're clothes fit correctly and are not wrinkled, that you're shoes are clean, and you're accessories are appropriate for what you are wearing. (Things like wearing a beanie with a long sleeve button down... Just don't do it)

- Smile. Don't force it though. Watch funny movies, and do things that make you happy. Make sure you are having a good time as often as you can. If someone or something makes you unhappy, then walk away from it. I'm not saying to run from your problems. If you've got to confront something, then confront it. What I AM saying though, is there is no need to hang around people you don't like being around for no reason.

- Stand up for yourself, but don't start drama.

- Motivate yourself. I love to listen to music. One song that always makes me feel like a million bucks is "So Fresh So Clean" by Outkast.


- Find a hobby or a sport, something that you like to do, and do it. You can make all kinds of friends and meet all kinds of girls at the basketball courts, or at the park, or in a gym.

- Set goals for yourself. Professional, educational, or otherwise. Discover your dreams and shoot for them. A man with purpose is a happy man.


Follow these tips, and I promise you will find yourself feeling confident and deserving in no time. And when that time comes, you will be ready to start the challenges of being a DJ
 

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magickarl said:
- Motivate yourself. I love to listen to music. One song that always makes me feel like a million bucks is "So Fresh So Clean" by Outkast.
I really like True to Myself and Rainbow in the Sky by Ziggy Marley, theres a lot of truth to them and some things I can relate to personally. My point is you gotta find what works for you.

Everyone in this post is telling you to become happy and giving a lot of very useful advice in doing so. The key to all of it is persistance. If you do this for a day you may get the benefits for a day. Take this to mean you need effort if you want results. The definition of a "magic pill" versus a solution that works, isn't the fact that one is the right concept the other is wrong, it is that a "magic pill" means when you get some good advice but expect it to work instantly to fix everything. Whether or not this is the case depends on the individual, but regardless everyone must persist on their road.

It is a good thing that you are aware of your anger. Very very good. Becoming aware of my emotions was the best thing I've ever done in my life. I can say that with absolute certainty. The next best thing was realizing I am in control of them. You cannot get caught in this trap, it will lead to more of your suffering: you see something you want and feel good, you do not go for it and so you feel bad, or it leaves and for some reason that makes you feel bad too. This could be a woman, a deal on shoes, anything. What is happening here is you are basing your hapiness on outside events. Let me tell you, you have lived until now with these circumstances, so in fact you can confirm this through your experiences, it is okay that you do nothing. You are still alive today, despite doing nothing. Where you are going wrong is when you feel bad about it.

magickarl said:
You've got to follow the number 1 rule of DJing, baby. And do YOU know what that is? It's YOU. Catch my drift? The point of being a DJ is doing what makes YOU happy. Just remember. It's all about YOU.
Tell me something, do you want to be happy? Stop reading right now and answer the question. Yes? No? Be honest. Its okay for other things to make you happier, the better a state you can call upon at any moment to make yourself feel great the better your life is - tit for tat. Since you're aware of your anger you can now be aware of your happiness.

Sit down right now and feel that anger. Stop thinking for a second and feel just how damn bad your crappy ****ed up **** for breakfast no women negative self talk ******* no friends life really is. You've gotten accustomed to coming home and treating yourself like **** right? You piece of **** if you can't do this then you can't even get that right and you're a failure at failing. So go sit down and stop your thinking. You'll be surprised at how many thoughts pop into your head and make you feel worse and worse and don't you dare ****ing get up and read beyond this paragraph before you honestly scream at yourself "I've had enough you **** stop making me feel like ****" Go do it right now CapedCrusader08, and anyone else in fact who this rings a bell to. Don't read on until you do. I mean it.

Let me just say now that if you chose to ignore the most practical thing you can do right now - take a simple action and feed into the secret desire you have to feel like a crushed ****head before you even sit up, then really what can we help you to do? You want to feel like ****. You've told me and everyone here this so many times. You have 5+ threads with that in the title, and that repeated over and over again in your posts.

Now that you have a concept of just how bad you can feel, I don't want you to feel good yet. I want you to read this, then apply what the others have said. That is, if you truly would prefer not to live your life in that horrible pit of depression. I'll give you this, it's not hard. I can think of all the **** that's happened to me in the past too. Its very comforting to feel like you're a goodfornothing who can't do anythng because then you don't have to do anything. You can be a lazy slob, and that might be for you. But laziness doesn't bring happiness, to me at least. If that's what you want out of your life again, by all means. Your life is what you make of it:

i realized in trying to buy things i had placed inherited meaning in them through a secret belief
that i was not myself already, but instead i found myself through my posessions. it was then i
began to understand more fully the separation from material posession did not mean to dissociate
onesself from the need or use of material posessions, but instead to take away meaning from them,
such that if your house burnt down you would have the recourses to fully replace it to how you had it
before. I like to call this insurance of life, and it is something that in every aspect of everyones life,
they have. it is just a matter of realizing the true potential and taking away the meanings held over anything
you believe about others by either lack of experience or through negative experience. this seems hard to do
at first because another belief we have is that if you do not gain closure for a past event you will not
be able to live without its effects. this belief comes from the current methods of psycology, and their
predecessors who influenced them. This, however, is a very peculiar contradiction between the theory and
practice of the subject, as elementary psycology introduces brain cells which grow dendrytes and connect
to other cells thus creating the connections that allow us, through repetition, to form unconscious patterns
of behavior and therefore life. Thus how can it not be apparent that by thinking more and more through
ever-changing arbitrary perspectives in an effort to "find something" which cannot be so much as described
before it is "found" - causing of course a catch 22 that serves to build on itself; this is a natural
function of the brain and works for both negative and positive forces we consciously build - we build up
the only thing still linking us to the event - how we feel about it. Another limiting factor that I struggeld
with for a while was the belief that "but the past has so much meaning i can take from it." If you think like
that there is nothing wrong with you, yet, but there will be if you do not take the time to understand that:
when you take meaning and lessons from something that has happened, you are limited to the meaning and lessons
it can hold, which in and of itself has been fine since the dawn of mankind, however through personal experience
we have discovered that there is so much more to be experienced if you look for it. So why look at what there
was if we dont want that to happen? What there was only tells us what there is now. What there is to come is
for us to say.

Affirmations, what do YOU want? How do you know you're not getting what you want if you don't know what you want?
 

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This is probably first and last time I will actually agree with DonGordon:

You DO have deeper issues - your problem is not "being unhappy" or "not getting girls" or "being bullied"...

The problem is WHY these things happen.

If you werent so much in your head (by the way i think Warrior posted a thread about that particularly),
Then you would have realized that, for example, being made fun of for half your life happens for a reason.
Usually reason is that people view you as a TOOL.

Listen, have you even bothered to ask a classmate, relative, teacher WHY the popular opinion of u.. sucks.. ??? And what you could possibly do to improve...

I doubt you ever did that.

People make fun of me cuz they're evil!!! And my name is Loving so OF course I'm right and they're wrong!

NO


I don't usually give ADVICE because i have a long way to go myself, but I CAN however suggest a couple of things..

STRONGLY SUGGEST

* DO NOT BUY SEDUCTION BOOKS.. OR LAW OF ATTRACTION, THE SECRET, OR NLP.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

*look what i found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanisms#Categorization_of_Defence_Mechanisms

-how many of those apply to you? i bet all of them. You're in for a surprize

*http://playersupreme.libsyn.com/
 

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Work on sorting your life out. Work on getting your mind wrapped around what you do and don't believe, what you do and don't stand for as a man. Who you are.
My life is well sorted out, thank you very much. I am doing anywhere from fine to awesome in every aspect of my life save for my attempted romantic dealings with women. Dare I say based on reading through this forum, my life is overall a lot better "sorted out" than a substantial number of people on this forum who enjoy far better success with women than I do.

Once you decide to fix it, that should immediately make you feel better. because you made up your mind. it doesnt matter that you don't know how to fix it. it will come to you. you will learn as you go. but the fact that you decided and now you take action defines what sort of man you are. You are a man who knows his mind and takes action. Your not a boy crying for someone to please fix you.
I've long decided I'm going to fix things. Otherwise I wouldn't be here in this forum.

I don't know what to do at this point. At first I thought I did, and tried the usual commonly touted tactics espoused by the pickup community. For whatever reasons - both which I'm aware of and many which still confuse me, none has ever brought any results whatsoever. I've been both active and passive, and neither has produced positive results.

Listen, have you even bothered to ask a classmate, relative, teacher WHY the popular opinion of u.. sucks.. ??? And what you could possibly do to improve...
Yes I have, and as I've said above, no one has offered any useful advice, even when asked to be perfectly brutally honest. The usual spiel I get is that I'm a wonderful guy that any girl would be lucky to have, or something similar. Some of these people are just as perplexed as to why I am chronically single.
 
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I have alot to say,no,I don't,all of it is just going to be more fodder. This thing,this depression or whatever it is,I have to learn or find some way to let it go. It's become some major baggage. I mean,it's not like I go around spouting all this off to everyone I see or interact with on a daily basis. But the feeling(s) is there nonetheless.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Also for dj vladdy,if people are rude to you and treat you badly,is that you're fault? If you don't live up to there standards of what "cool" is,is that you're fault,is it you're fault if you don't care and not give a ****? If the popular opinion of you sucks,does that mean you should go along with what everyone else says or does? If you are made fun of,is that you're fault? What about people who are just mean spirited and rude?


"You do not need to be the HAPPIEST guy on earth before you go after the ladies. And the challenge of the chase in itself can bring happiness -- If you have became secure with yourself.

However, you should at the very least be content with yourself and confident in the fact that you are a man with plenty of good things to offer the opposite sex and deserve sex just as much as any other guy.

If you do not meet the above criteria before trying, you are doomed to fail with women. By that, I don't mean it will be impossible to get laid. It can happen. But it will be significantly harder to do, and you're going to find yourself an emotional mess. Most likely developing too much attachment way to fast, and coming off as needy. Rejection is not something that someone with low self esteem needs, and neediness is the quickest way to get dumped.

What I see happening A LOT with buddies of mine who insist that all they need in their life to make them happy is a good woman is this: They settle for the first girl who will give them a phone number. They honestly don't do to bad of a job on the approach and the pick-up and sealing the deal, but not too long after getting in the honey pot, they revert back to AFC type behaviors, and it always ends in disappointing breakup. Then they spend a week dwelling on it, and in some cases act like wusses and beg for her to take them back (the best way not to get taken back)

My advice on how to fix the situation?


You've got to follow the number 1 rule of DJing, baby. And do YOU know what that is? It's YOU. Catch my drift? The point of being a DJ is doing what makes YOU happy. Just remember. It's all about YOU.

What does that mean? Get your head straight. And remind yourself that you are #1.

- Take a look at yourself in the mirror and go beyond that you are a good looking guy. Take note of the features that make you attractive. Go ahead.

- Take an inventory of your skills and talents. What are you the best at? Then commit yourself to improving on those skills.

- Take an inventory of your weaknesses. If you can improve on those weaknesses, make a game plan with realistic, but challenging goals and do it. Every time you accomplish one of those goals, take pride in the improvements that you are making.

- EXERCISE! Whether you are overweight or not, exercise in the long run improves your confidence, your mood, makes you look better, reduces stress, and helps you live longer.

- While you're at it, drink plenty of water and eat right too. That doesn't mean you have to cut all junk food out of your diet. That just means take the junk food for what it is --- Junk food. If you want the energy to go through your day like you want to, then you've got to give it the right fuel. And anyway, cooked food tastes better.

- Your body is your temple. Treat it as such. This of course includes the obvious things like keeping your nails trimmed, your hair neat, your teeth white & breath non-stinky, and being clean in general.

- Dress you're best at all times. Whatever style you like, thats fine. Just make sure that you're colors match, you're clothes fit correctly and are not wrinkled, that you're shoes are clean, and you're accessories are appropriate for what you are wearing. (Things like wearing a beanie with a long sleeve button down... Just don't do it)

- Smile. Don't force it though. Watch funny movies, and do things that make you happy. Make sure you are having a good time as often as you can. If someone or something makes you unhappy, then walk away from it. I'm not saying to run from your problems. If you've got to confront something, then confront it. What I AM saying though, is there is no need to hang around people you don't like being around for no reason.

- Stand up for yourself, but don't start drama.

- Motivate yourself. I love to listen to music. One song that always makes me feel like a million bucks is "So Fresh So Clean" by Outkast.


- Find a hobby or a sport, something that you like to do, and do it. You can make all kinds of friends and meet all kinds of girls at the basketball courts, or at the park, or in a gym.

- Set goals for yourself. Professional, educational, or otherwise. Discover your dreams and shoot for them. A man with purpose is a happy man.


Follow these tips, and I promise you will find yourself feeling confident and deserving in no time. And when that time comes, you will be ready to start the challenges of being a DJ
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What if you are the opposite of all that? Esp the first part about happyness,what about not being content with yourself? What if you're not cause you want(ed) more,but feel behind due to setbacks,and getting there seems slower than normal? I am trying to fight off neediness,but still want someone in my life. Make sense?
 

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Crusader, no offense, but:

your last post was very good and seems like you have things figured out... so how come you have all those problems that you've mentioned in your other posts?
 
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No. I don't have things figured out. Or I have small parts figured out. I have a tendency to do more ponderin than doin. Know what I mean? I get the idea of the site,getting rid of all afc traits and becoming the in control guy,right? Am I wrong in that at all? I have changed a bit over the years,Either naturally or from the site its'self. My problem is still going and getting the women,probably due to several factors. Anyways,what problems in the other posts exactly?
 

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DJVladdy said:
This is probably first and last time I will actually agree with DonGordon:

You DO have deeper issues - your problem is not "being unhappy" or "not getting girls" or "being bullied"...

The problem is WHY these things happen.

If you werent so much in your head (by the way i think Warrior posted a thread about that particularly),
Then you would have realized that, for example, being made fun of for half your life happens for a reason.
Usually reason is that people view you as a TOOL.

Listen, have you even bothered to ask a classmate, relative, teacher WHY the popular opinion of u.. sucks.. ??? And what you could possibly do to improve...

I doubt you ever did that.

People make fun of me cuz they're evil!!! And my name is Loving so OF course I'm right and they're wrong!

NO


I don't usually give ADVICE because i have a long way to go myself, but I CAN however suggest a couple of things..

STRONGLY SUGGEST

* DO NOT BUY SEDUCTION BOOKS.. OR LAW OF ATTRACTION, THE SECRET, OR NLP.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

*look what i found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanisms#Categorization_of_Defence_Mechanisms

-how many of those apply to you? i bet all of them. You're in for a surprize

*http://playersupreme.libsyn.com/
This has so much nail-on-the-headdary I can barely stand it. I love it :up:

Man you nailed me, and you're right, I exhibit each and every one of those first 3 levels of Defence Mechanisms, and one or two of the level 4's but those I misconstrued earlier for some of the bad ones.

After some Self-Evaluation (I'll look at those playersupreme links today after school so just tell me if the answer's there) I realized this introversion gives me a sense of comfort and at least mild happiness on a scale of what I've experienced, granted feelings better than this were only during hypnosis and lasted a second or two at best. The thing is, when I open my mouth to speak, to girls or anyone, the good feelings I've cultivated through introversion are instantly gone and I feel bad while speaking unless I talk about the kinds of things I think about in my head - philosophy, those kinds of brain matters, or my problems - all of which at the best only really cultivate more of those same feelings while thinking to myself only.

After realizing this I asked myself a question, and that was, to **** a girl, do I think I would have to talk to her? Carefully considering this, I came to the conclusion yes, I would. So how do I stop feeling so bad every time I open my mouth?

Also yesterday the wierdest introduction ever happened. I was walking though the hall at school and this girl who took the same bus as me to school once asked, "Excuse me" (me:yeah) "you totally don't have to answer this, but are you a virgin?" (me:no) Then I walked away and began to hear "Its just that I've never been to a school where..." Didn't stick around for the rest of that but what it's making me realize is a question that if I can find the answer, will make me much happier when interacting with others.

You know how after all is said and done, you can look back and think of something great you could've said that -even if it wasn't a masterpiece of literature- would've made you happier with the situation, or you can fantasize about how situations will go? How can I get that voice inside me that has things to say that I like to come out?

People tell me I'm very funny, but I think I have boundary issues and I'm uncomfortable at school. Yesterday I walked to the bus hub (usually 1 bus there from school 1 bus from there home) and stopped by this shop where there was this girl shopkeeper. Not hot or anything but the whole way home I was just laughing at **** I didn't care about the cars or anything around me and I get into the shop and start asking stuff about stuff and I just smiled and every time I smiled she would just buurst out laughing, then she said "You're funny" and I got this bad feeling about me, as if that's all I was and her saying that means she expected something of me that I had to conform to. I managed to just identify that feeling then as a "bad one" and henceforth continued what I had done with the smiling just when I felt like laughing. The thing is I cant see myself even smiling like that in school. I think its just a place of too much sorrow and pressure for me. Its like everyone in the whole damn school wants to talk to me but they dont actually so I realize its just a projection and today I will work on not even thinking like that.

Also, what about self-help books?
 

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loving said:
This has so much nail-on-the-headdary I can barely stand it. I love it :up:

Man you nailed me, and you're right, I exhibit each and every one of those first 3 levels of Defence Mechanisms, and one or two of the level 4's but those I misconstrued earlier for some of the bad ones.

LOL.. im glad you agree with his agreement with what i told you early on in this thread... no go forth and heal you mind body and soul:yes:
 
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I definitley relate to all those defese mechanisms. Everything. Esp delusional projection,fantasy,projection,acting out,idolization,somewhat passive agressive,but not always,displacement,itellectualization,repression,although maybe not. I wonder if all this coupled with anger,depression,anxiety,is interfering with my success in life.
 

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If you live in a place with great health care, see a psychiatrist. Get an evaluation, you likely have social anxiety disorder, at least. Your problems are likely physiological, at least in part. Confidence and spirituality and all that stuff is great, but if your physiological state is ill, it's useless. Your body will never explain itself to you nor be fully understood. Take some medication, you'll likely find something that works. If you don't, there's no loss.
 
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To me or the op? I mean,I know post alot about the same thing on here,but it is this odd obsession,this problem I have. I want the way out,but can't find it. And it has me feeling beaten and broken whereas so many others are moving ahead and succeeding.
 

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Caped I won't BS you I don't know the answer. It seems logical in my mind, because these mechanisms I've identified are evident in areas that I am stuck, that something must be done. However, I am not sure exactly what. I am going for an EKG(ECG EMG e*G anyway kind of brain scan, and an appointment w/ a psychiatrist) I do not want to go on medication for this. I do not want to go on medication for this. I believe this problem was created by myself and thus can be reversed by myself.

My issue is, having blown these defence mechanisms through the window, how do I deal with them? Is it as simple as learning the behaviors of the positive ones and replacing the negative ones?
 

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Is it as simple as learning the behaviors of the positive ones and replacing the negative ones?
For me at least, I strongly feel if I experience success with ONE woman, that will be the catalyst that will propel me out of this ditch.

It's been the case for a lot of things in my life. I fail, fail, and fail, but once I taste that first success, suddenly everything changes and I can continue replicating that success.

The difference between my situation with girls and other situations in my life though, is that I've never gone without a single success for this long.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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