Thinking about where I see "game" heading in these coming years.

[Jesse Pinkman]

@DEEZEDBRAH

Bro, RSD made me. When I first got into game, it was because of a random video of theirs I found and then joining their forums. I found so many wings and had a blast back in my days in NYC. The wings that RSD's community provided were something else. I remember Distant Light all too well, some of his stuff was too mental masturbation type of stuff for me and his modern day version is Michael Sartain (look him up). Dude talked too much about social circles and came off as a bit annoying at times but I loved his stories. As soon as dudes like RSD Luke became big on RSD, it was all downhill.

I owe so much of my growth in game and the community I found to the RSD Forums back in the day. Met my fair share of good wings who I gamed with for months at a time, some more than a year, and we still keep in touch to this day. A number of them actually turned out doing well in not just life but even in game years after RSD vanished. Some ended up LTRing hot girls that they party and travel the world with, some mastered having social media clout, a few are still going at it and having good quality while doing so, and a handful actually did get married but seem happy. A great deal of them found success, you love to see it.

As bad as RSD may have become overtime, it no doubt changed a ton of lives. I feel for guys who missed out on the RSD Forums, they were something else back in the day.

It is a beautiful thing to look back and see that the guys you had your wildest time gaming with are still doing well in life. Now I have wings to meet up with whenever I am out and about in a given city. It does seem like most of them had their crazy run which lasted for a few years and then settled down with a cute girl. So many of them seem to be doing well in life.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@DEEZEDBRAH

I've actually met PWF in real life, he regularly daygames at some of the spots I frequent and occasionally stops by at the bar I usually go to on Fridays. Austen Summers is a legend, guy has so much good content on his channel. Thing is that men back in the day grew up in an environment where cold approach was normalized and celebrated. People hadn't outed PUAs as being fake or being frauds so men believed whatever they were sold and actually tried. Now, very few men are actually believing the stuff these guys preach and have shifted to the black pill movement so learning cold approach and mastering it makes you stand apart that much more.

 

[BadWatermelon]

We should appreciate this place as long as we have it - because it isn't going to be here forever - eventually some type of complaint is lodged and it gets banned.

We could always move it to the dark web.

 

[BadWatermelon]

@Jesse Pinkman I see the MIGTOW movement becoming much more common as new technology (e.g. VR Porn) becomes common. Feminists will continue to blame it for them not getting commitment.

At some point, once fertility rates are really in the toilet, the government will try to do something to bring fertility rates up. They'll probably try some boomer stuff like incentivizing marriage more, but it won't work. Sperm banks and other stuff like that will also be more common.

I'm not sure how much RP knowledge will increase. Maybe a lot. That will *really* intensify the gender war. To @Barrister's point, I could also see trying to get RP content cancelled backfiring (e.g. the Streisand Effect).

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

As for the Sex Work thing, I don't ever see it becoming too legalized or even accepted as normal @Jake_Gyllenhaal69. IMO, both sides of the political spectrum are strongly against it. The radical left has raging feminists that will say you are objectifying women by making sex work legal. The radical right, which you know all too well in the south, will try to throw religion in your face and say that God will hate you for seeing a hooker.

Yeah I meant that direct prostitution such as street prowling and Asian Massage Parlors will never become legal and be felon sentences for men because this is the type of sex transaction the average man will participate in. The feminists will target this one for sure. Now, Rich Man Prostitution such as Expensive Escorts, Instagram Models, Seeking Arrangements, Foodie Calls, and etc will not be called prostitution directly, and start to become more positive for a woman to openly admit. Essentially, the Pay to Play market will solidify.

 

[RBK]

This depiction below will continue it's trend noted below as 2015. In 2022 and beyond, many men will back out, but women will still have the power over the ones who are left.

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Because women are now protected by the state especially with children and no longer need a man long term to raise the family.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Because women are now protected by the state especially with children and no longer need a man long term to raise the family.

That's why whenever the state falls or something drastic happens, women are left defenseless and without an actual man to help them.

 

[MatureDJ]

Going to call it some of the big guns to comment. @SW15 @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 @LARaiders85 @Gamisch @DEEZEDBRAH @Serenity @Solomon @IKO69 @Hamurabimbi

How about a comment from a Gunlet?

Something hit me today just thinking back to decades ago when I was a teenager in high school, things were different. Even social media was different because it hadn't gotten to the point it has right now. I cannot start to wrap my head around how much has changed even in the past decade. Even when we look back to 2012, sure you had dating apps but the dating apps back then were actually real. I remember getting on Tinder and legit every match being a real woman as opposed to day where it is mostly robots and OnlyFan girls.

I remember the first iteration of dating apps like PlentyOfFish, before the time you specify, as being quite the wasteland. I didn't get into Tinder at that time because by then I was completely in GeoMax mode, although I tried a bit in the local OLD, with some success. I did detect a lot of pros on OLD (they were overpriced ).

Even cold approaching was different because it was a relatively new enough concept and communities like RSD were bubbling with activity.

I remember PUA lairs (or whatever they were called). I remember one member who ended up picking up and banging a cow, and I thought "what's the point?".

A big thing I have done 2021 onwards is put a lot more effort into game and taken self-improvement seriously since I am so set in a lot of areas of my life.

Self-improvement is to PU success like efficiency is to an economy - at the end of the day, it's the only thing that really matter, with everything else being gimmicks. The question is how to self-improve enough to make a difference. Yes, one can lift, but the meme of the GymCel shows that that is nowhere near enough. Bad-jaw plastic surgery? And how is a ShortCel supposed to improve in that regard? Leg-lengthening? Platform shoes? That said, starting out from some base level, anything can be amplified - but the stupid, dorky Chad will still effortlessly get something while the SelfImprovementMaxxed normie will have to bust his balls to get just a chance to get lucky.

IMO, a lot of guys are going to voluntarily take themselves out of the game. I think men have way too many comfortable avenues to even bother with putting int the effort to learn game and invest in a lot of self-improvement. Not only do men have these avenues, there are also not a lot of easily accessible pickup programs anymore since it has gone underground.

I think it's the effort-payoff ratio - which is something that YouTube philosopher Aaron Clarey says men as they mature rationally come to the conclusion that the ratio is too low, much to the detriment of the harridans complaining about "where are the men?". This is also the meme of the "Beautiful Mice" in the famous Mouse Utopia experiment.

The gap between the rich and the poor will get even wider than it is, I think 80-20 will turn into 10-90.

I am great believer in the concept of equilibrium action. A spectrum of PUAs will put in a certain amount of effort and get a certain amount of success - some will say it is worth it, and will continue at it; while others will say it's not worth it, and drop out, thus leaving a higher ratio of targets-to-hunters. But what is the elasticity of that equilibrium? Will there being fewer PUAs mean more poon for those still left in the game, or will it simply mean more women dropping out and getting a sperm-donor baby daddy?

However, I do think that the men who genuinely put in the work, go through the grind, keep a positive mindset in a world where negativity is now king, and truly invest in themselves will see even bigger rewards from avenues like daygame for example.

It is a mathematical certainty that someone that tries will not have a lower rate of success than someone that does not try. As for daygame, I think it will need to become more subtle, which means a lower success ratio than in the past.

As a result, I think that it will be a lot easier to be in the top 10% of men than it would have been decades ago because most of your competition would have voluntarily vowed out.

LastManStandingGame? I think the main reason this works is that as the adherents get older, the targets get older, and eventually the sexual market adjusts as men drop out (i.e., because the reward of a harridan is less motivating ). The 10% that will be quitting will be the ones that haven't been that successful, and so them dropping out would not change the sexual market (i.e., it's like a lot of poor people moving away from a city not having any effect on the upscale retailers there, since they weren't buying anything anyway).

 

[MatureDJ]

That's why whenever the state falls or something drastic happens, women are left defenseless and without an actual man to help them.

Men waiting (or rooting) for this is called SocietyCollapseGame.

 

[MatureDJ]

This depiction below will continue it's trend noted below as 2015. In 2022 and beyond, many men will back out, but women will still have the power over the ones who are left.

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This is the graphic about hypergamy that says it all. I've often thought that the 10 gal being so hypergamous that the 10 guy is not good enough (here shown as her not having an arrow at all) could be susceptible to an upper-tier normie that has some top-level attribute like intelligence or nationality, etc. - and that if she got knocked up early enough, her Sexual Market Value would decline enough to make the relationship have stability.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

@DEEZEDBRAH

Bro, RSD made me. When I first got into game, it was because of a random video of theirs I found and then joining their forums. I found so many wings and had a blast back in my days in NYC. The wings that RSD's community provided were something else. I remember Distant Light all too well, some of his stuff was too mental masturbation type of stuff for me and his modern day version is Michael Sartain (look him up). Dude talked too much about social circles and came off as a bit annoying at times but I loved his stories. As soon as dudes like RSD Luke became big on RSD, it was all downhill.

Distant light went full Justin Marc club promo game in NYC. The buds he posted were funny. I remember jmulv and Vegas crew. Lots of receipts but it was Vegas so a bit sus. Former Tyler assistant. No fount he approaches. Strange guy. I liked ambiguity though long winded mostly bragging. Called himself black Brad Pitt and some troll pics from pulls. Huge troll. Brad and Manhoe kept banning him but Tyler kept bringing him.back for the lols. China boy a Alex assistant was funny and blew up stereotypes.

Luke is the barney gumble of pua and Rollo pokes fun at the idea of him doing pickup. Of course it was social circle. Nobody believed he could cold approach or diet. Tyler even trolled in him in a video about his weight. The story goes Michael Sartain was asked to join who is a legit social circle promo guy. He recommended luke.

I owe so much of my growth in game and the community I found to the RSD Forums back in the day. Met my fair share of good wings who I gamed with for months at a time, some more than a year, and we still keep in touch to this day. A number of them actually turned out doing well in not just life but even in game years after RSD vanished. Some ended up LTRing hot girls that they party and travel the world with, some mastered having social media clout, a few are still going at it and having good quality while doing so, and a handful actually did get married but seem happy. A great deal of them found success, you love to see it.

Met a wing off Mystery old sub. Weird dude. Was picking up a girl and her fat friend tried to fight him. Found forum guys were weird. Preferred to wing with naturals.

As bad as RSD may have become overtime, it no doubt changed a ton of lives. I feel for guys who missed out on the RSD Forums, they were something else back in the day.

Agreed. After Julien media scandal, toddv left and Alex too. It got weakkkk. As much hate as Tyler gets I still value what he brought. Much insights are solid. Fraudin house husbands are parroting him and others. It's wackkkk now. Nobody goes out. Everyone has a program &&& 0 receipts. It did not happen.

The cool thing with inner circle you can find BC locations. Could see whoever in some city. I saw Julien before the media scandal. The guy was a fiend. I can't comment on everyone but that dude was legit.

It is a beautiful thing to look back and see that the guys you had your wildest time gaming with are still doing well in life. Now I have wings to meet up with whenever I am out and about in a given city. It does seem like most of them had their crazy run which lasted for a few years and then settled down with a cute girl. So many of them seem to be doing well in life.

Bit older than you. Majority are playing house. Best natural I knew had global harems. Baeeeeees literally flying out to see him. A 7 day vacation in ibiza was this guy pulling a dozen girls. 1x we went to the lobby. This cheeky **** had 2 airport vans stuffed full of hot girls to come out clubbing. When the driver refused to take us guys too (in was rammed) playboy says "alright girls out of this van. " the driver apologized to him and begged for another chance. Pulled the hottest girl in the club that night.Today's he's married with kids but slinging D still. Majority are in similar situations.

Enjoy the wings while it lasts man. Sooner or later it comes undone. The game is a solo sport. Every man for himself.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

@DEEZEDBRAH

I've actually met PWF in real life, he regularly daygames at some of the spots I frequent and occasionally stops by at the bar I usually go to on Fridays. Austen Summers is a legend, guy has so much good content on his channel. Thing is that men back in the day grew up in an environment where cold approach was normalized and celebrated. People hadn't outed PUAs as being fake or being frauds so men believed whatever they were sold and actually tried. Now, very few men are actually believing the stuff these guys preach and have shifted to the black pill movement so learning cold approach and mastering it makes you stand apart that much more.

Again I'm a bit older. Not as familiar with the new school.

PWF seems cool but even bumps guys with better cold approach. Says Austen Summers is legendary. The wheelchair infield is funny. He reminds me of a guy I know who pulls a lot. Super natural too. PWF Swears by jmulv too. That seems sus but the guy was so crazy rsd Tyler kicked him out lol. RP go in on him buy I bet he's got better game than 99%. Not sure I'd recommend that guy. He even bragged about lady boys lulz in a pod. Very sus. Unsure of AG but someone here took a bc and swears by him.

Personally I think pickup going underground is great. I never did routines. Always liked natural game. Rsd and free association. Freedom from outcome and intent. It's lame where is gone now but I value what they brought for over a decade.

Julien is playing house. Married and kids. Respect after 5 country ban and global media scandal. Talk about going all out and doing a 180.

Curious what endgame looks like for you???

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Answering the OP's question, I see game as being less practiced. The genders are jaded and tired of each other at the moment, and you'll see more people (on both sides) dropping out and becoming more preoccupied with concerns about survival, the state of society, the future, etc

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Answering the OP's question, I see game as being less practiced. The genders are jaded and tired of each other at the moment, and you'll see more people (on both sides) dropping out and becoming more preoccupied with concerns about survival, the state of society, the future, etc

It's entirely intentional. There's only 1 enemy. Feminism and the boss girl rubbish that's pedaled in society. Who pushed lock down? Printed trillions? Mandates? And whatever else that's coming next? There's always been one enemy.

A woman either follows your lead or she's left behind.

 

[Bigpapa]

It’s okay dude. Smoke some DMT and forget about it. Life is all a dream anyway ;-)

if you let people gamble , do drugs and f8ck robots or h00kers , they will never rebel

look at the history of the decay of the Chinese empire . It collapsed due to the use of opioids

 

[SW15]

look at the history of the decay of the Chinese empire . It collapsed due to the use of opioids

When did the Chinese Empire decay?

 

[Bigpapa]

When did the Chinese Empire decay?

History of opium in China - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Imperial china was destroyed by the large use of opioids

towards the end of the Chinese empire opioids = money

then there were like 50 years of civil war + fighting the Japanese , till 1950 when communist china emerged

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

History of opium in China - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Imperial china was destroyed by the large use of opioids

towards the end of the Chinese empire opioids = money

then there were like 50 years of civil war + fighting the Japanese , till 1950 when communist china emerged

If you mean the Qing Empire, no where close lol

 

[lgbs2004]

I looked in my crystal ball and I saw that in the year 2085, men will be able to purchase the realistic sex doll of their choice that is willing and able to do absolutely anything without giving them any attitude.

Women will only be able to procreate with poor men that can't afford a robot.

I want mine without vocal cords, please!

 

[sangheilios]

@Jesse Pinkman

What you are mentioning has honestly been going on for quite a while now, it's been a growing trend over the past 10 years. There are a lot of stats showing sexlessness amongst young men has been becoming more and more prevalent, ironically starting around 2008 when the recession hit. I personally feel that what started it was not just the recession, but at that time social media and the internet were far more advanced and widely used compared to the previous major recession of the "dot com bubble" that was in the early 2000s. Basically you have a bunch of men that feel disengaged from society and the internet and video games became a coping mechanism. However, that's not really when we see these issues take off.

There are trends that showed around 2014/2015 is when we begin to see male sexlessness become a huge problem, ironically correlating with the widespread use of dating apps, such as tinder. When even fat and unattractive land whales feel entitled to some dude with bulging biceps you know we have a problem. Anecdotal evidence, but I've heard many men discuss how they felt the game changed around this time period, real life interactions and not posts on the internet.

What ends up happening is you now have a bunch of men that become burnt out by the dating climate for what it is and they just focus on other things in life. When you are getting nothing but rejection or just overall poor experiences, it would be totally logical to step away. These men didn't read some red pill or black pill posts or look up terms like "MGTOW", they literally just gave up due to frustration. The issue is this spiral makes it worse, at it creates even pickier and more insane women which leads to even more men giving up and checking out. I see the current dating market as a hyper competitive game of musical chairs, where you have a drove of men vying for a tiny number of available seats that are actually desirable, with the rest being undateable garbage.

I can understand all of this because I'm one of these men. In my early 30s I have a much stronger understanding of this compared to someone quite a bit younger. I've personally had nothing but bad experiences, in fact quite a few of them were extreme to say the least and I genuinely hope no well intended young man has to go through what I did. However, I've also heard of tons of stories or first hand witnessed some absolutely abysmal behavior from women towards other men. There are a couple cases I can cite where women were openly admitting to leading men on that they had no interest in. One mentioned that she'd go on dates with men, often from OLD but in real life approaches as well, basically just to get free stuff or because she was bored and wanted something to do. Another one mentioned she'd do this to get free dinner and drinks. These women will eventually get what is coming to them and I hope they grow to be old and miserable cat women.