Jaylan said:
And that is a defeatist attitude. It all starts with a single man and can grow. We learn here and then teach our brothers how to behave. Sorry but I can never accept things as negative and that they are without fixing.
America is far beyond repair and if you think otherwise you are delusional. We are heading down the same path of many European countries except the women are fatter, sick in the head, and too "strong and independent" for us
Jaylan said:
Fine, theres nothing wrong with it in your opinion. But in my opinion its just giving up and not truly bettering yourself and making puzzy the whole point of your life.
So it's ok for american women to use their advantage but men must be held to some magical higher standard? You're thinking like a woman. This is a rebuttal I expect from some angry feminist.
You do realize that there is a movement to restrict men from traveling outside the U.S so that they can never find true happiness with a foreign woman right?
Jaylan said:
Work on one's self and you will see this as true. With all the talk that goes on in this forum, I feel like only a small percentage of the dudes here truly live the DJ lifestyle and better themselves and treat themselves as the prize. Again I ask, what happened to this place. I consider this one of the better, if not the best, PUA forums out there. However there also appears to be more of a sense of men putting women above them and kow towing just to get sex.
Yea, yea, work like a mule constantly grow as a person have epiphanies be super duper awesome at everything. Somehow that doesn't appeal to me. Maybe there's something wrong with me?
Jaylan said:
Yes, everyone should experience other cultures, even women. And if they find a new home, cool, but puzzy shouldnt be the main driving force in what a man does. It makes him secondary in his own life. He should WANT women, but not NEED women. What is so "femisphere" about a man acknowledging his high value, knowing he is the prize, walking with confidence, and conquering Western women in his "Western bubble".
And why shouldn't pvssy be a motivator to move away? Historically pvssy has been the main driving factor for anything getting done. Don't forget that. Men have always slaved for the pvssy, but here is a solution where you can get quality pvssy easy and you denigrate it?
You're lecturing me on how to be a man? A man follows his own path and does his own thing without regret. He thinks outside the box and is not a sheep to chasing the american dream like you are describing
Jaylan said:
Mind you this bubble is the greatest in the whole world. Its not isolationist to seek to be the best you can be. And you can only be the best when you conquer the best, and the West is the land of the best of almost everything in this day and age. In terms of baseball the West is MLB, the East(minus Japan and Korea) is AAA minor leagues, and varying other nations are AA or A.
Greatest bubble in the world according to who? There are many hat would disagree including international statistics on things such as happiness, health care, and quality of women
Jaylan said:
Look, its a public forum, and everything anyone says here is a judgement.
I am allowed my opinion, and if you deem it negative, tough cookies. If you need to travel thousands of miles just to attain women, it does appear desperate, especially when you could simply improve yourself and travel a few miles for women at home.
Sorry but I'm really tired of your condescending attitude toward men that would rather leave the country. You try to shame us and tell us we aren't "real" men because we don't chase the american dream. Because we don't run the rat race. You're entitled to your opinion but understand it won't go over well when you talk down to people like that. You are no better than anyone here, whether you reach your magical american dream or not
Jaylan said:
I want men to be better than that. The fact that some of us have to do crap that women would never dream of doing shows how far we have fallen. I think we as men should expect more of ourselves and give women a big F U. They come as just side pieces to overall life success, we shouldn't define our success by them though, which a lot of men here do.
Well why is defining yourself by your monetary worth any better? And who put you in charge of what "better" means? Look, as I've said before, giving women the middle finger won't change society. There is a sucker born everyday and nothing will change that.
