The Thread Of Going Foreign

[LiveFreeX]

Jaylan, I wish you and all the other doubters all the success with the women in the west.

When you become an MGTOW like your boy Pook, tell them I said hi.

 

[Jaylan]

I confirm what I previously said about you, and you confirmed it yourself.

You did not confirm anything. You simply try and debase me with silly accusations

Second you really failed cause I never moved anywhere being myself easter european so all the random crap you wrote doesnt apply to me, I often move because my job expect me to,nothing more.

My response was in reference to men who move for sex, lot dudes in this forum have. I was addressing the issue as a whole dingbat.

Keep your cosmopolitan cheap psychology for your lady night out or better yet hit the treadmill instead of trolling here.

Lmao, the groupthink on this board is pathetic. If anyone shares an opinion that is opposed to the typical bunk in some of these threads, you weak members sit and call the person a woman to try and discredit them.

Grow the fvck up, youre 31.

If you happen to be a man, join a gym, improve yourself and lose your virginity, after that your view on women will change.

Trust me when I say I have probably gotten more tail than you in my last year of college that Im finishing next month, than you have in the last 5 years, let alone your whole life. So spare me the bull

Btw no anger or hate from me, keep your opinions if you want.

Yeah no anger or hate at all, just weak insults because you cannot handle another mans opinion like an adult.

You make me lol and smfh

Jaylan, I wish you and all the other doubters all the success with the women in the west.

When you become an MGTOW like your boy Pook, tell them I said hi.

No need to. I find it silly and I lol at the whole mens rights movement. Its no better than the ultra leftist arm of the feminist movement.

Btw I think you guys need to read sstypes post on page 2 about novelty again.

And in response to the post two under my current post by LiveFreeX...

None of the things you mentioned discredit that success in a foreign land is due to your novelty. You should listen to foreign men speak of their own women sometimes. Its not much different than the guys here. My French, Brazilian and Spanish friends will tell you that in their homeland they are seen as very average but in America or abroad elsewhere, they are treated like studs.

 

[Gray The Prince]

You make me lol and smfh

That's what I say when I see a lot of threads on here. Oh and I'm sigging that too!

 

[LiveFreeX]

oh btw, Jaylan... how many countries have you lived in besides the USA?

How many women have you picked up in different countries?

What do you think of the Chinese Sheng Nu mentality?

What do you prefer mainlanders or HK/BJ/SH girls?

Do you think its better to smile on the back of a bicycle or cry in the back of a BMW?

What did you think of the version of the film OLD BOY in Chinese vs Korean? Do you think its true?

Do you like SNSD? What about Bela Nova? What do you think of the girls at their concerts? Ever met a popstar? What did you think of her?

Did you ever meet any DF girls? What do you think of DF vs other cities like Oaxaca?

Have you tried Oaxaca cheese? Do you think its better from the capital or are there better places?

When you were in Puerto V, did you find that the girls on the Mexican end of town were friendlier than the girls on the malecon? Which end did you spend your time in? Did you find the girls that lived just below the mountain nicer than the ones in town?

Which do you prefer being, a farang, a gringo, a gyopo or a gaijin?

Don't you think its unfair being able to make 10 times the local salary for doing nothing except being North American?

What do you think of the Peruvian mentality versus the Mexican?

How many Brazilian 'Carnivales' have you been to?

Did you ever visit the rainforest? What about those banana spiders eh!?

What do you think of Brazilian nightclubs?


What do you think of game when applied to Fresa vs Naco girls?

Do you find any difference from the girls who live in the tourist towns in Mexico vs the girls who live in the small towns?

When you visited the PH, what did you think of Jollybee? Do you think the women go for a guy that likes Jollybee?

Do you think Moderatto gets mad pvssy or are they gay like everyone says?

Where do you think is better to take a year long vacation if you only have $1500?

What kind of quality of life can you have in Mexico if you are making 5000 pesos per month?

What kind of life can you have in China if you only bring in 6000 rmb per month?

Which do you prefer the Mexican 'Aiiii' or the Chinese 'Ow'? Ever been with a Uygher girl? What do you think of the Hui girls??? Any trouble?

Why do you think Brazilian girls always demand it in the backside?

How many times have you had to pay sit down tax in Tokyo, its a ***** eh!?

Did you watch the Starcraft channel in Korea? What do you think of all the PC Bangs?

Do you prefer Korean over Japanese? What do you think the major differences in the culture are?

How about vs Chinese girls?

Why are Chinese girls easier to meet than any other Asian race? (- the PH girls)

How much GAME is required with Brazilians/Japanese/Korean/Chinese/Mexican/Peruvian/Vietnamese/Uygher/Russian/German/Ukrainian/Uzbek/Kazak/Filipinas?

Do you have any insider cultural tips that would help me run GAME better?

When you went and saw the pyramids, what did you think of KFC?

What are your thoughts on Pizza Hut in Korea vs at home?

Did you like Song Kran? Did you bring a super soaker or just use a bucket?

What do you think of the Andes? Crazy eh?

How far along the Great Wall did you walk? In fact how many of the great wonders of the world have you seen?


When you can answer one quarter of my questions you can say that you actually know some stuff, until then you are just an A typical ignorant american.


Thanks bro.

 

[Strelok]

You make me lol and smfh

So those same things I listead before + lols ,rofl and smfh(whatever it means).
As if the ad personam and cosmo lines werent girly enough.

Next time you should add some "OMG".

Ps. funny your "grow the fvck up" it's a sure line you get from women when you say/do something they dont approve.

 

[Jaylan]

So those same things I listead before + lols ,rofl and smfh(whatever it means).
As if the ad personam and cosmo lines werent girly enough.

Next time you should add some "OMG".

Ps. funny your "grow the fvck up" it's a sure line you get from women when you say/do something they dont approve.

Yawn brah, yawn. Say something new and interesting. Something that truly shows you really know what my life is like. Would you like my facebook for insight xD

 

[LiveFreeX]

None of the things you mentioned discredit that success in a foreign land is due to your novelty. You should listen to foreign men speak of their own women sometimes. Its not much different than the guys here. My French, Brazilian and Spanish friends will tell you that in their homeland they are seen as very average but in America or abroad elsewhere, they are treated like studs.

Notice on my first post I wrote "FOR BLACK AND WHITE NORTH AMERICANS ONLY", the original post wasn't just targeted at picking up pvssy because life shouldn't just revolve around sex... and the world also doesn't revolve around just the first world countries. If you want to know why the world hates Americans, you've just demonstrated a good chunk of it. Ignorance, Arrogance and Blind Stupidity.


Until your knowledge comes FIRST HAND, you have NOTHING to add to this thread that I haven't seen in 100 other threads..

I'm here to help people with my EXPERTISE and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, equivalent to an international field report, what are you here to do KBJ?

 

[Jaylan]

Until your knowledge comes FIRST HAND, you have NOTHING to add to this thread that I haven't seen in 100 other threads..

I'm here to help people with my EXPERTISE and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, what are you here to do?

Lmao do you want me to email them this thread, sign up, and tell you that its all novelty. Some take defeat, accepting that you are nothing special at home, but traveling abroad where you are a rarity makes you a novelty, something to be desired.

Lets get real dude. You know what sstype wrote is word for word true. America is so large that I travel to different parts of the country and women treat me vastly different. Hell even just going from NYC to Toronto. Its novelty, and when you go to third world nations, the most unattractive and fattest of men can be treated like they are super stars because they are Westerners.

Seems a bit fake to me.

 

[Strelok]

Yawn brah, yawn. Say something new and interesting. Something that truly shows you really know what my life is like. Would you like my facebook for insight xD

No thx,the last thing I need are girls inviting me to join online petition against violence on women.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Ok really Jaylan, this arguing is pointless and if noone is interested in the thread then it should just disappear naturally right? I'm not interested in hearing anything you have to say anymore unless its a request, question or personal travel/live abroad experience... I forgot there was an ignore button. Your posts suck anyway.

This thread is for and about North American born expats and those wanting to expat, if you know any of those then send them along... maybe you should have read my original post. Having a Brazilian tell me and the others about Brazil really doesn't help. They have no idea about the dynamic of BEING a NORTH AMERICAN MALE, BORN IN NORTH AMERICA. Its no different from having a woman give you dating advice..

Get an ESL teacher who was born in the USA and expated to Brazil for over a year to come on a talk about it. There's more than two on SS alone and they've been here a lot longer than you.

I honestly think you are a woman... I can't believe any man who hears

"Its easier to live abroad and effortless to meet girls"

thinks

"fvck that! I like living here where life is hard, boring and stressful and the women suck ass! It's a dogs life for me baby!".

 

[TIC]

smh @ guys calling other dudes women when they dislike their opinion. The male world lolz @ those who place the value of women higher than his own.

Excuse me for being above the need for sex and that I am going to make the most of my life in America (one of the worlds greatest nations) Not giving up here and running off to a crappier nation just in the pursuit of puzzy. You can say you leave for other reasons but we know that you all wouldnt be leaving Western nations if you knew youd get the same result from females elsewhere.

Id take a quality first world women over a lower class third world woman any day. Because Id rather achieve status here than run to another nation to have lower class women chase me because they want to live it up, since their lives dont compare to ours in Westernized nations. I wouldnt feel like a success getting those women, I want the upper echelon hard to attain gal. But thats just me I guess.

DJs dont make women the center of their lives. Women are just a result of the DJs success in life and positive philosophy. A real man does not need to troll new neighborhoods because he failed at home. He adapts and succeeds.

At least thats how I see it.

Why is it OK for women to use the system to theri advantage and have loads of options/attention, but when guys find a system where they could have a happy social life they get shamed?

American society is sick and women are the main culprits. I don't want american women and no, there is no such thing as a quality 1st world woman. They are all narcissistic consumer trash

 

[SharinganUser]

America is so large that I travel to different parts of the country and women treat me vastly different. Hell even just going from NYC to Toronto.

Geography fail.

 

[C-quenced]

Geography fail.

I stopped paying attention to that ****ing troll. She's so ****ing stupid. Perhaps one of the worse I've seen here.

 

[davewe]

Its novelty, and when you go to third world nations, the most unattractive and fattest of men can be treated like they are super stars because they are Westerners.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

Let's face it, most every guy attracts women for superficial reasons. Humans (women especially) are superficial.

Guy A: Young, good looking, big muscles, gets all the bar girls he wants because of his youth, looks and muscles.

Guy B: Late 30s. Successful, bit o' money, nice house with matching mortgage. He gets all the 35 year old, desperate to get married and drop a kid women he can handle.

Guy C: Older, maybe barely hanging on. Has a bit more money, a certain calm, been there-done that attitude. Travels because he wants to see other places and cultures before he's too old. Is treated like a superstar not because of his youth, beauty or muscles, but because he's Western, and a mature Westerner. How's he any more or less real than Guys A or B.

Am I Guy C - you bet. Just back from an international trip, accompanied by 23 year old who's totally into me. Is it because I'm Western? I'm sure that's a big factor. How's that any more superficial than Guy A who gets the girl because he's ripped. Actually, long after Guy A is no longer quite so ripped, Guy C will still be a mature Westerner, able to travel and meet beautiful girls.

Everyone builds his own life. Don't shame those of us who choose a different way. Isn't that what women (American women) do?

 

[Jaylan]

Why is it OK for women to use the system to theri advantage and have loads of options/attention, but when guys find a system where they could have a happy social life they get shamed?

American society is sick and women are the main culprits. I don't want american women and no, there is no such thing as a quality 1st world woman. They are all narcissistic consumer trash

No WE are the main culprits. Women get to do what they do and control the dating and sex game because of OUR behavior. You want the case and point? Men going to other nations with the primary objective being pvzzy. WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS FORUM.

I look at posts from the early days and many more men were above prostitutes, head games, AFC pedestal-ing, traveling vasts distances for tail, etc. But now the board looks like its just filled with guys who will do anything and everything for a lay. Its gone from being a place where a man makes the most of who he is and not accepting defeat, to a place where you advise one another to lower your standards and take whatever piece of azz whichever girl throws at you.

This is why women control things, they know guys like this will always be in supply. They feel that a man can never say no to them, even if he is above their league. And this is why when I have shown a girl that I am above that crap, they chase me until they can pass MY tests. Or if I dont want them whatsoever, they pathetically try and slander me by telling people I must not like women since I wouldnt **** her....lmao @ the ego on broads like that. But that thinking was created by all the men who never say no.

Yes I know our biology is different and sex is a huge driving force. Yes testosterone is a bitxh to deal with because it makes us infinitely horny at times. But guys, we could learn a lot from girls in terms of standards and being picky. If we just learned to use our relationship standard of women when judging who we screw, even if its only half the time, then things would even out like hell. Because we know as men we wont compromise who we will date, but there are times where you think "oh well, puzzy is puzzy"

Geography fail.

You are kidding right. Having been all over the US I can easily tell you the women are not the same everywhere.

And btw, my mentioning of Toronto and NYC was a separate but related point. I was referencing two metropolises that while not far from one another geographically, and both being general melting pots, that the women are very different.

So spare me, because an International Business major I know my geography =/

I stopped paying attention to that ****ing troll. She's so ****ing stupid. Perhaps one of the worse I've seen here.

Lol @ this forum. The group think here is crazy. Yeah as soon as someone posts an opposing viewpoint, he must be a troll. Dude its an open forum, and people are allowed to say what they want.

I gave my honest opinion on the matter, and I think men should be the best they can be and still strive for me here in the US, instead of accepting defeat and running away.

I dont see how you guys can cry so hard about me wanting my fellow men to better themselves. Its the choice of creating high value for yourself in one of the greatest nations in the world, vs accepting being average or sub par and creating false value in poor nations. I feel by being great here, you can be great anywhere. Thats just me though.

Ok really Jaylan, this arguing is pointless and if noone is interested in the thread then it should just disappear naturally right? I'm not interested in hearing anything you have to say anymore unless its a request, question or personal travel/live abroad experience... I forgot there was an ignore button. Your posts suck anyway.

This thread is for and about North American born expats and those wanting to expat, if you know any of those then send them along... maybe you should have read my original post. Having a Brazilian tell me and the others about Brazil really doesn't help. They have no idea about the dynamic of BEING a NORTH AMERICAN MALE, BORN IN NORTH AMERICA. Its no different from having a woman give you dating advice..

Get an ESL teacher who was born in the USA and expated to Brazil for over a year to come on a talk about it. There's more than two on SS alone and they've been here a lot longer than you.

I honestly think you are a woman... I can't believe any man who hears

"Its easier to live abroad and effortless to meet girls"

thinks

"fvck that! I like living here where life is hard, boring and stressful and the women suck ass! It's a dogs life for me baby!".

Read my above responses. Then you might finally understand where I am coming from. I am about never accepting a loss and constant betterment of oneself.

And where did I say that American women "suck ass"? I never said nor thought that. I actually do quite fine with women overall, and am seeking to improve all aspects of my life in the good ole USA. But yeah I must be a woman since I dont desire to move my entire life to another country just for puzzy.

Why would I move when I just fine here? So your accusation is therefore baseless. I dont sit and incessantly cry in threads about how horrible women are like a lot of folks do in these forums now. Like I said before, this place used to be about being the best man you can be and maintaining high standards in all aspects of your life. Now its reduced to complaining about women, instead of changing the things about our collective manhood that will make women shape up.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

Let's face it, most every guy attracts women for superficial reasons. Humans (women especially) are superficial.

Guy A: Young, good looking, big muscles, gets all the bar girls he wants because of his youth, looks and muscles.

Guy B: Late 30s. Successful, bit o' money, nice house with matching mortgage. He gets all the 35 year old, desperate to get married and drop a kid women he can handle.

Guy C: Older, maybe barely hanging on. Has a bit more money, a certain calm, been there-done that attitude. Travels because he wants to see other places and cultures before he's too old. Is treated like a superstar not because of his youth, beauty or muscles, but because he's Western, and a mature Westerner. How's he any more or less real than Guys A or B.

Am I Guy C - you bet. Just back from an international trip, accompanied by 23 year old who's totally into me. Is it because I'm Western? I'm sure that's a big factor. How's that any more superficial than Guy A who gets the girl because he's ripped. Actually, long after Guy A is no longer quite so ripped, Guy C will still be a mature Westerner, able to travel and meet beautiful girls.

Everyone builds his own life. Don't shame those of us who choose a different way. Isn't that what women (American women) do?

Id rather a girl want me sexually for my personality and looks, then because of simply where I was born.

The thing is she can find another Westerner easily, because being Western is not unique. However, my personality and the way I look is unique to myself. It says to me that even if shes only down for a one night screw, or a relationship, she wanted me for me.

And that to me is attractive and worth value. And spare me about the whole shaming thing. If you want to take that route, by all means, but my opinion stands. Because you all are shaming me for simply sharing an alternate viewpoint, let alone a viewpoint that tells me to never accept defeat.

 

[TIC]

No WE are the main culprits. Women get to do what they do and control the dating and sex game because of OUR behavior. You want the case and point? Men going to other nations with the primary objective being pvzzy. WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS FORUM.

I look at posts from the early days and many more men were above prostitutes, head games, AFC pedestal-ing, traveling vasts distances for tail, etc. But now the board looks like its just filled with guys who will do anything and everything for a lay. Its gone from being a place where a man makes the most of who he is and not accepting defeat, to a place where you advise one another to lower your standards and take whatever piece of azz whichever girl throws at you.

This is why women control things, they know guys like this will always be in supply. They feel that a man can never say no to them, even if he is above their league. And this is why when I have shown a girl that I am above that crap, they chase me until they can pass MY tests. Or if I dont want them whatsoever, they pathetically try and slander me by telling people I must not like women since I wouldnt **** her....lmao @ the ego on broads like that. But that thinking was created by all the men who never say no.

Yes I know our biology is different and sex is a huge driving force. Yes testosterone is a bitxh to deal with because it makes us infinitely horny at times. But guys, we could learn a lot from girls in terms of standards and being picky. If we just learned to use our relationship standard of women when judging who we screw, even if its only half the time, then things would even out like hell. Because we know as men we wont compromise who we will date, but there are times where you think "oh well, puzzy is puzzy"

The fact of the matter is that there is a sucker born everyday. There will always exist plenty of men who will cater to the needs of evil american women. So nothing is gonna change. If the entire forum and pua community changed its ways tomorrow society would still be the same

There is nothing wrong with moving to another country and experiencing hotter, more exotic women minus all the head games and ego. Minus the "serve me" attitude that american women have. So many guys are forced to bend over backwards just to get an average piece of pvssy..why? Why put up with that sh1t

All men should be encouraged to travel and experience other cultures. Once they do, I'm certain they will find a place they will want to stay in for good. The problem you have is that you're stuck in the femisphere mindset. The Western bubble. The isolationist mentality.

STOP with the judgement and shaming tactics...if a man goes overseas for women that is his choice, he is not desperate in my eyes. He is smart

 

[Jaylan]

The fact of the matter is that there is a sucker born everyday. There will always exist plenty of men who will cater to the needs of evil american women. So nothing is gonna change. If the entire forum and pua community changed its ways tomorrow society would still be the same

And that is a defeatist attitude. It all starts with a single man and can grow. We learn here and then teach our brothers how to behave. Sorry but I can never accept things as negative and that they are without fixing.

There is nothing wrong with moving to another country and experiencing hotter, more exotic women minus all the head games and ego. Minus the "serve me" attitude that american women have. So many guys are forced to bend over backwards just to get an average piece of pvssy..why? Why put up with that sh1t

Fine, theres nothing wrong with it in your opinion. But in my opinion its just giving up and not truly bettering yourself and making puzzy the whole point of your life. Pedestal-izing the tail. You dont have to bend over backwards for average women if you dont want to. Have the confidence, self respect, and standards to be above the BS and women will be easy.

Work on one's self and you will see this as true. With all the talk that goes on in this forum, I feel like only a small percentage of the dudes here truly live the DJ lifestyle and better themselves and treat themselves as the prize. Again I ask, what happened to this place. I consider this one of the better, if not the best, PUA forums out there. However there also appears to be more of a sense of men putting women above them and kow towing just to get sex.

All men should be encouraged to travel and experience other cultures. Once they do, I'm certain they will find a place they will want to stay in for good. The problem you have is that you're stuck in the femisphere mindset. The Western bubble. The isolationist mentality.

Yes, everyone should experience other cultures, even women. And if they find a new home, cool, but puzzy shouldnt be the main driving force in what a man does. It makes him secondary in his own life. He should WANT women, but not NEED women. What is so "femisphere" about a man acknowledging his high value, knowing he is the prize, walking with confidence, and conquering Western women in his "Western bubble".

Mind you this bubble is the greatest in the whole world. Its not isolationist to seek to be the best you can be. And you can only be the best when you conquer the best, and the West is the land of the best of almost everything in this day and age. In terms of baseball the West is MLB, the East(minus Japan and Korea) is AAA minor leagues, and varying other nations are AA or A.

STOP with the judgement and shaming tactics...if a man goes overseas for women that is his choice, he is not desperate in my eyes. He is smart

Look, its a public forum, and everything anyone says here is a judgement.

I am allowed my opinion, and if you deem it negative, tough cookies. If you need to travel thousands of miles just to attain women, it does appear desperate, especially when you could simply improve yourself and travel a few miles for women at home.

I want men to be better than that. The fact that some of us have to do crap that women would never dream of doing shows how far we have fallen. I think we as men should expect more of ourselves and give women a big F U. They come as just side pieces to overall life success, we shouldn't define our success by them though, which a lot of men here do.

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[davewe]

Id rather a girl want me sexually for my personality and looks, then because of simply where I was born.

The thing is she can find another Westerner easily, because being Western is not unique. However, my personality and the way I look is unique to myself. It says to me that even if shes only down for a one night screw, or a relationship, she wanted me for me.

And that to me is attractive and worth value. And spare me about the whole shaming thing. If you want to take that route, by all means, but my opinion stands. Because you all are shaming me for simply sharing an alternate viewpoint, let alone a viewpoint that tells me to never accept defeat.

When Tom Leyks was on the air women used to call in and say, "you're fat and ugly. The only reason you get hot women is because you're rich and famous." Leykis would respond, "being rich and famous is part of who I am. I worked hard to get those things. That's what the women are attracted to."

A man who spends his time, energy and money traveling to other parts of the world, experiencing other cultures and the women in those cultures, is in fact expressing who he is. His looks will change over time (usually for the worse) but who he is won't. A man who experiences things that many others don't or won't will be attractive to many women. Their ginas will tingle in the same way as a young, good looking guy might make their ginas tingle. It isn't just that he's Western (though that's a factor) and it isn't just that they think he has money (another factor); it's that those factors, as well as his adventurous spirit, are part of who he is - and for many women that's attractive.

No one is telling anybody that they must travel abroad just for women. But if you do travel abroad and you have an open mind and an adventurous spirit you just might have an extraordinary time.

 

[Jaylan]

When Tom Leyks was on the air women used to call in and say, "you're fat and ugly. The only reason you get hot women is because you're rich and famous." Leykis would respond, "being rich and famous is part of who I am. I worked hard to get those things. That's what the women are attracted to."

A man who spends his time, energy and money traveling to other parts of the world, experiencing other cultures and the women in those cultures, is in fact expressing who he is. His looks will change over time (usually for the worse) but who he is won't. A man who experiences things that many others don't or won't will be attractive to many women. Their ginas will tingle in the same way as a young, good looking guy might make their ginas tingle. It isn't just that he's Western (though that's a factor) and it isn't just that they think he has money (another factor); it's that those factors, as well as his adventurous spirit, are part of who he is - and for many women that's attractive.

I can agree on this front. Well explained sir.

No one is telling anybody that they must travel abroad just for women. But if you do travel abroad and you have an open mind and an adventurous spirit you just might have an extraordinary time.

The thing is, there are some guys in this thread saying to travel abroad just for the sake of the puzzy. I dont mind exploring the world, but dont make women the all encompassing goal. It should always be about the self, first and foremost.

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[LiveFreeX]

The thing is, there are some guys in this thread saying to travel abroad just for the sake of the puzzy. I don't mind exploring the world, but don't make women the all encompassing goal. It should always be about the self, first and foremost

That is such BS. Women are a HUGE part of your life and a very important resource... Only in some narcissistic dysfunctional bullsh1t culture does SELF come first and foremost. That is a feminist belief that very few men with any sort of brain power subscribe to. As a man with children if you are still living for SELF, you are a scum bag... Reference WWU, scum bag father of the earth that left his children to continue on fvcking prostitutes in a different 3rd world country (your words Winston!).

Why is it that American males are expected to constantly 'self improve', build businesses, earn thousands of dollars while poor foreign males don't have to bother with ANY of this BS and get an even BETTER result with BETTER quality women? Why do we have to doubt ourselves constantly, hit the gym, learn retarded tactics and do stupid things like peacocking in order to score when Vladmir the Uzbek gets to rail a hot young 20 yearold without ANY GAME because his culture dictates that women must respect and marry men? How many times have you heard "Strong and Independent" attached to "MAN"? Ask your foreign friends who CURRENTLY reside in Russia, Brazil, Mexico if they have to do 1/10th the work of picking up women or play any of these stupid games to get at her crotch. The answer will be a resounding NO. What are women expected to do for us other than stand around and look pretty? The mere suggestion of women learning how to cook and clean for a man can get you thrown out of a workplace or school in North America. In China every woman knows that after 25 she is useless... the post 80's generation right now are going nuts looking for husbands to take them. If DJs wanted to meet and marry quality girls, there are something like 3,000,000 single females in the Shanghai area alone that Chinese mothers will not allow their sons to touch because the MOTHERS feel that these women are simply to old to be useful.

Tell that to a 25+ corporate broad in North America and see what happens.


Now, no one is saying OR has said that the goal of THIS THREAD is solely about pvssy so stop your constant ranting.

North America for 'family values' as was stated, is a complete toxic wasteland. This is why I advocate moving away. The dynamic suddenly changes when you want to have children and you the man, have the government, media and law stacked against you. If you don't tow the line then you become public enemy #1. No matter who you are and how 'self improved' you've become, you are fvcked, completely 100% fvcked. You want to try and fight it? Go read the horror stories, they are all over the net... what the hell do you think MGTOW stands for? Its groups of men (former PUAs) who have been ROYALLY fvcked in the court system, at home by their wives and best friends and tried to fight it... If you want to stay and fight, good for you, go to it... but me? Screw that, I would rather sit back, relax and live in a society that encourages masculine behavior and values fathers and men.

You think your country 'the best country in the world' gives a flying fvck about you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

I'm curious, how old are you Jaylan... I would guess about 19 or 20.