The Thread Of Going Foreign

[Tyson420]

There's nothing wrong with moving to foreign countries to get laid. People that don't get laid in North America actually do get laid in Dominican Republic and places like that. I can understand it.

But I'm not having LTR with a broke 3rd world chick.

 

[LiveFreeX]

im gona cry these American women hurt my feelings so im going to try to get laid somewhere else

honestly the best way to do it is VACATION over there dont move....

save money for 75% of the year and take a trip with your boys for like 2 weeks...

that way you can say your going on vacation over there but moving is..desperate..

Honestly, the best way not to pull facts out of your a$$ is to ask guys who have a bit of real world experience just what the hell happened to them between 20 to 40.

Have you even moved out of your parents house yet? Bought a car? Paid Bills? Had major debt? Had a wife fvck you over and bankrupt you? Been arrested and charged because a woman decided that she didn't like the way you looked at her? Had your children turned against you? Had to take shaming from female co-workers? Been hated on, kicked out of school or lost a job for making a 'comment'? Told you were dumb, a rapist or made to feel inadequate because you are a man? Burnt out because of long hours at work? Told you were a clueless gay loser for having hobbies? Bought a $3000 engagement ring only to have her whine about not getting the diamond she always wanted? Having to shell out thousands of dollars for a wedding party where you were allowed to make 0 of the decisions? Had to save all your money and cram a years worth of fun into 2 weeks while your wife/gf barks at you and hangs off the bartender? Had to stay home and watch the kids while your wife has a 'girls night out' where she doesn't come home? Had to raise your children in a gender-neutral household because your wife wants to be politically correct? Become overweight because your wife can't be bothered to cook a decent meal while you drive across the country just to put food on the table? Listened to your wife moan about 'this being all there is' and then telling you she's unhappy after you just bought a $500,000 house together? Watched your boys slowly married off to their 'dream girls' and had all of this happen to them? Had your bestfriends tell you they can't hang out anymore because 'she who shall not be named' will make them sleep on the couch? Had your daughter march in a 'slut walk' to protest women's right to do whatever they want without societal/cultural repercussions (my friend just told me to add this).

Right... well when you get there, I hope you have that same good attitude about life in North America.. I don't think you realize what is happening out there right now. Being a PUA is all fun and games until you want to get married. That's when you start to realize just wtf is going on in the 1st world. If you want a taste of the horror that comes with the western world you only need to type MGTOW into google (almost all of them are former PUAs). When you've been fvcked over so harshly by women for so long, pvssy is the last thing on your mind, the first is wishing you could just GTHO.

Trust me, I could go on and on and on and on and on... my 'boys' are almost all unhappily married/divorced right now, broke and making payments to various credit card companies with at least 2 kids each while I'm getting ready to meetup with a nice 22 year old girl who is studying a cook book because I said I was hungry.

Tell me I made the wrong decision.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Anyway, I'm starting to get too involved in this forum again. If anyone has any questions about living abroad they can PM me. I've lived in 8 countries so far and can give you a heads up before you leave.

For the rest, PM me in 10 years and tell me how it worked out.

 

[irocknike23]

Honestly, the best way not to pull facts out of your a$$ is to ask guys who have a bit of real world experience just what the hell happened to them between 20 to 40.

Have you even moved out of your parents house yet? Bought a car? Paid Bills? Had major debt? Had a wife fvck you over and bankrupt you? Been arrested and charged because a woman decided that she didn't like the way you looked at her? Had your children turned against you? Had to take shaming from female co-workers? Been hated on, kicked out of school or lost a job for making a 'comment'? Told you were dumb, a rapist or made to feel inadequate because you are a man? Burnt out because of long hours at work? Told you were a clueless gay loser for having hobbies? Bought a $3000 engagement ring only to have her whine about not getting the diamond she always wanted? Having to shell out thousands of dollars for a wedding party where you were allowed to make 0 of the decisions? Had to save all your money and cram a years worth of fun into 2 weeks while your wife/gf barks at you and hangs off the bartender? Had to stay home and watch the kids while your wife has a 'girls night out' where she doesn't come home? Had to raise your children in a gender-neutral household because your wife wants to be politically correct? Become overweight because your wife can't be bothered to cook a decent meal while you drive across the country just to put food on the table? Listened to your wife moan about 'this being all there is' and then telling you she's unhappy after you just bought a $500,000 house together? Watched your boys slowly married off to their 'dream girls' and had all of this happen to them? Had your bestfriends tell you they can't hang out anymore because 'she who shall not be named' will make them sleep on the couch? Had your daughter march in a 'slut walk' to protest women's right to do whatever they want without societal/cultural repercussions (my friend just told me to add this).

Right... well when you get there, I hope you have that same good attitude about life in North America.. I don't think you realize what is happening out there right now. Being a PUA is all fun and games until you want to get married. That's when you start to realize just wtf is going on in the 1st world. If you want a taste of the horror that comes with the western world you only need to type MGTOW into google (almost all of them are former PUAs). When you've been fvcked over so harshly by women for so long, pvssy is the last thing on your mind, the first is wishing you could just GTHO.

Trust me, I could go on and on and on and on and on... my 'boys' are almost all unhappily married/divorced right now, broke and making payments to various credit card companies with at least 2 kids each while I'm getting ready to meetup with a nice 22 year old girl who is studying a cook book because I said I was hungry.

Tell me I made the wrong decision.

Well im sorry to hear all that

but that all sounds like bad marriage problems and even you should know that doesnt happen to everyone....as a matter of fact i dont think anyone in this forum can say they had all that happen to them

however i do know a little about the international game...

I been to Russia, Ukraine, South Korea, China, England, France, Italy and Mexico from age 17-20(current)

and russia from 1-6(I was born there)

so I know my way around...

and yes the success is better in other countries...because all foreigners watch shows like Real Housewives and shows like that and assume ALL americans live like that. When they hear you speaking english they assume you have a mansion back in the states and a lambo in your driveway. THATS why their so nice to you and a lot of times hit on you trust me(not so much England)

On top of that in those countries they are taught respect for fellow man at an early age so they will always be willing to talk to you at a bar or something even if deep down inside they dont want to be around you or like you.


And I do live on my own. I live on campus.

Like I said I would vacation in foreign countries because your there a short time can bang all these chicks but I wouldnt move there...

btw has anyone thought about stuff like not knowing the language, trying to get a job in an area you dont know and making way less wages...?

 

[TIC]

But I'm not having LTR with a broke 3rd world chick.

Why not? Would you rather date a superficial ameriskank? At least you know the 3rd world woman will appreciate you

 

[Black Dog]

Awesome thread! I have a couple quesitons

Step 1. Most of the info on this site is free... read it, learn it and practice it. It will make you a better person, your goal for the next year is to develop an extremely social personality.

Step 2. Go to Walmart and buy a 20lb bar bell... get in shape... push ups and jogging are free. Not necessary to buy a Bowflex or get a gym membership.

Step 3. Open a second savings account. For the next year or two, live on protien powder, bananas and water or some other low cost junk free diet. Dump all the money you make in there... sell everything you can get your hands on. Everything goes into that account. If you have debts, you can either pay them off... or leave them (up 2 you). Cancel all credit cards. If you have a car, sell it and get a bus pass.

Step 4. Get a TESOL certificate. You don't need a degree to get a job but you will need a TESOL/CELTA. Typical cost $1000. You can slide jobs after a year or two. GAME will help you make contacts outside of ESL. Teaching English is the easiest, fastest and most lucrative way to live abroad. GAME is PERFECT for the classroom... you will be the most popular teacher in the whole school hands down. (Note: YOU DO NOT NEED A DEGREE)

Step 5. Pick a country and do some serious research, learn everything about the country including visa laws, taxes, rentals, real estate, clubs and organizations and a bit of language. www.couchsurfing.org to start.

Step 6. Detail your teaching experience... if you taught a day of martial arts, or a dance lesson or read a kid brother a story book...put it in there! Spam your resumes across the world. Eventually you'll get a hit, take it and GO. Your first year anywhere in the 3rd world will be a HUGE shock to the system but eventually you'll learn all the ins and outs and probably meet lots of awesome people abroad not to mention plenty of hot women.

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Concerning Step 4, wouldn't you need to know the native language, in order to teach English?

Also, would Canada/UK/Australia count for this journey?

 

[SharinganUser]

Awesome thread! I have a couple quesitons


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Concerning Step 4, wouldn't you need to know the native language, in order to teach English?

Also, would Canada/UK/Australia count for this journey?

You do not need to know the native language, and many schools would in fact offer you classes to learn it. More to the point, you don't even need a TESOL, or a degree for that matter.

 

[Kupid Diggs]

I've been thinking about doing something like this.


Can anyone chime in on the best coutries in Latin America to look into? My first choice would be Brazil.

 

[davewe]

Well im sorry to hear all that

but that all sounds like bad marriage problems and even you should know that doesnt happen to everyone....as a matter of fact i dont think anyone in this forum can say they had all that happen to them

This is the norm, not the exception. Most middle-aged guys have had most, if not all of these things happen to them.

 

[davewe]

Bought a car? Paid Bills? Had major debt? Had a wife fvck you over and bankrupt you? Been arrested and charged because a woman decided that she didn't like the way you looked at her? Had your children turned against you? Had to take shaming from female co-workers? Been hated on, kicked out of school or lost a job for making a 'comment'? Told you were dumb, a rapist or made to feel inadequate because you are a man? Burnt out because of long hours at work? Told you were a clueless gay loser for having hobbies? Bought a $3000 engagement ring only to have her whine about not getting the diamond she always wanted? Having to shell out thousands of dollars for a wedding party where you were allowed to make 0 of the decisions? Had to save all your money and cram a years worth of fun into 2 weeks while your wife/gf barks at you and hangs off the bartender? Had to stay home and watch the kids while your wife has a 'girls night out' where she doesn't come home? Had to raise your children in a gender-neutral household because your wife wants to be politically correct? Become overweight because your wife can't be bothered to cook a decent meal while you drive across the country just to put food on the table? Listened to your wife moan about 'this being all there is' and then telling you she's unhappy after you just bought a $500,000 house together? Watched your boys slowly married off to their 'dream girls' and had all of this happen to them? Had your bestfriends tell you they can't hang out anymore because 'she who shall not be named' will make them sleep on the couch? Had your daughter march in a 'slut walk' to protest women's right to do whatever they want without societal/cultural repercussions (my friend just told me to add this).

Hysterical! I'm not a complete cynic about marriage but this is one of the best descriptions I've read.

 

[C-quenced]

Well im sorry to hear all that

but that all sounds like bad marriage problems and even you should know that doesnt happen to everyone....as a matter of fact i dont think anyone in this forum can say they had all that happen to them

however i do know a little about the international game...

I been to Russia, Ukraine, South Korea, China, England, France, Italy and Mexico from age 17-20(current)

and russia from 1-6(I was born there)

so I know my way around...

and yes the success is better in other countries...because all foreigners watch shows like Real Housewives and shows like that and assume ALL americans live like that. When they hear you speaking english they assume you have a mansion back in the states and a lambo in your driveway. THATS why their so nice to you and a lot of times hit on you trust me(not so much England)

On top of that in those countries they are taught respect for fellow man at an early age so they will always be willing to talk to you at a bar or something even if deep down inside they dont want to be around you or like you.


And I do live on my own. I live on campus.

Like I said I would vacation in foreign countries because your there a short time can bang all these chicks but I wouldnt move there...

btw has anyone thought about stuff like not knowing the language, trying to get a job in an area you dont know and making way less wages...?

I think the OP made a very deep and very valid point and it's piss-poor to rub it off as ONLY "marriage problems that not everyone else goes through". I know EXPERIENCED men (who have women that most men could only dream of) coming down to the same conclusion about U.S. women. One thing they all have in common besides having options is that they REFUSE to lower their standards and want a woman worthy of marriage and children.

I'm not ready to jump on the "foreign women" are awesome bandwagon simply because I haven't had the opportunity to travel. On top of that I could honestly care less about marriage and kids and when my opportunity to travel comes it WON'T be to try and get women. I can confidently state however (without having anyone else to compare them to) that U.S. women can burn in the deepest levels of hell for all I care. I've lived in the U.S. my entire life so I have every damn right to say that. It may not be the most politically correct comment but I'm just saying it how it is.

 

[LiveFreeX]

however i do know a little about the international game...

I been to Russia, Ukraine, South Korea, China, England, France, Italy and Mexico from age 17-20(current)

and russia from 1-6(I was born there)

so I know my way around...

I beg to differ. You have TRAVELED around a few places as a young man possibly with a backpack. I have LIVED in the countries that I have been to for 1 year+, starting at 23. Many people travel the world, see a few things, meet a couple women and think they know about the world. You don't know a country or its people until you have lived with them, rented an apartment, paid taxes, eaten at their local places, fvcked their women, dealt with their police forces and had to find a job to support yourself. Visiting a beach resort in Mexico doesn't really count.

wouldn't you need to know the native language, in order to teach English?

Also, would Canada/UK/Australia count for this journey?

Black Dogg: SharingUser is correct, you don't need the local language or a TESOL... BUT BUT BUT how will they learn English? The same way you learned English. Ask yourself, how the hell did I learn how to speak my 1st language? The TESOL will give you a crash course on answering that question.
You don't need it but if you have it you will be more attractive to a school. Also Canada/OZ/NZ may be foreign to you, but are all categorized as Western Women influenced nations or (The Anglosphere). Also Spain/Italy/Portugal/UK... third world or bust.

Can anyone chime in on the best coutries in Latin America to look into? My first choice would be Brazil.

Kupid Diggs: I lived in Brazil for awhile. Brazil, a few years ago was awesome for meeting girls, now not so much AND its hella-expensive. The rich girls have no idea how to do anything for themselves that doesn't require schooling. One Brazilian/Japanese I dated couldn't even make her own bed and was repulsed by it, she considered that 'maid's work' but she did have 3 useless degrees. I left Brazil soon after and now I understand its gotten much worse. To meet the maids you have to journey into the subcities and favelas and there is a very good chance that you won't be walking out. I would stay out of Brazil completely.... its not the place that people have made it out to be. Sex is plentiful there, so are STDS. Trust me, there are better places in the world and there is almost no where in Brazil to get your laundry done cheaply... you are looking at 2 to 5 bucks per pair of jeans. Brazilians are also flakes, and they're happy to admit it. Make a date to hangout with a friend, if he finds something better to do, he'll flake on you AND not bother to call. Women are 50x worse. You'll end up hanging with other gringos the majority of your time in Brazil and complaining about how stupid the majority of Brazilians are. Carnival is probably the biggest slut fest in the whole world, no matter what you've heard about it, it is 100,000x more nasty than you can possibly imagine. People fvck in the streets, against the walls, kiss anyone, fvck, fvck, and more fvck. Your gf/wife has almost no problem cheating on you and hey...that's Brazilian culture, gotta problem with it? You don't belong in Brazil. Fvcking prostitutes is something a guy gets on his way home from work, they are everywhere. Its disgusting, really I'm not kidding. The only people that would enjoy Brazil are Helicopter Pilots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipAnUqjmJFE&feature=fvsr

(Belanova is pretty typical for Mexican girls) Yes, a large percentage of Mexicans are WHITE. Probably around 45%. If you want Asian Mexicans you gotta go to Baja California. If I didn't make good $$$ in China, I would be on the next flight to Mexico...love it there. For the Asian guys reading this, Latinos have no problems dating you guys. Jap guys clean up pretty well there... Mexican girls are obsessed with Harijuku fashions.

Mexico is a much nicer place in the southern parts and very cheap to live. Latinos who live in the
US should not be considered 'true mexican women' they are the furthest thing from and an insult to Mexican culture... fence jumpers are hated just as much in Mexico as they are in the USA, they consider them 'deserters'. I lived there for a few years and had a most excellent time. Its got a great pace of life and as long as you stay out of trouble then trouble won't come looking for you. There are some really fantastic areas around Mexico where you can buy a two-story house for $10,000, kick back and relax. I miss it a lot. Lots of ESL jobs there.

Argentina the women are stuck up, period.

Peru, the women are kind of ugly but are very nice and the food is fantastic. Spent a short time there... its not as nice as Mexico but the food is much better.

That's the extent of my central/south american experience. The two best places in the world for me would be either China or Mexico... if I'm not living in one, I'll be in the other. Both are fairly cheap, crime is low (despite what you hear on TV) and women are very friendly and sexy.

FVCK Canada... you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming to go back there... and make no mistake, I'm not some trailer park trash slob. My parents have a $700,000 house, that I could live in... I chose this life and I wouldn't trade it for Millions.

 

[Jaylan]

Lol @ Western men trolling the third world for tail. Never I, Never I.

smh lulz

 

[LiveFreeX]

Lol @ Western men trolling the third world for tail. Never I, Never I.

smh lulz

What are you supposed to be WyldFyre 2.0?

The World Lolz @ U. :crackup:

smh @ women trolling a PUA forum.

 

[Jaylan]

What are you supposed to be WyldFyre 2.0?

The World Lolz @ U. :crackup:

smh @ women trolling a PUA forum.

smh @ guys calling other dudes women when they dislike their opinion. The male world lolz @ those who place the value of women higher than his own.

Excuse me for being above the need for sex and that I am going to make the most of my life in America (one of the worlds greatest nations) Not giving up here and running off to a crappier nation just in the pursuit of puzzy. You can say you leave for other reasons but we know that you all wouldnt be leaving Western nations if you knew youd get the same result from females elsewhere.

Id take a quality first world women over a lower class third world woman any day. Because Id rather achieve status here than run to another nation to have lower class women chase me because they want to live it up, since their lives dont compare to ours in Westernized nations. I wouldnt feel like a success getting those women, I want the upper echelon hard to attain gal. But thats just me I guess.

DJs dont make women the center of their lives. Women are just a result of the DJs success in life and positive philosophy. A real man does not need to troll new neighborhoods because he failed at home. He adapts and succeeds.

At least thats how I see it.

 

[Strelok]

smh @ guys calling other dudes women when they dislike their opinion. The male world lolz @ those who place the value of women higher than his own.

Excuse me for being above the need for sex and that I am going to make the most of my life in America (one of the worlds greatest nations) Not giving up here and running off to a crappier nation just in the pursuit of puzzy. You can say you leave for other reasons but we know that you all wouldnt be leaving Western nations if you knew youd get the same result from females elsewhere.

Id take a quality first world women over a lower class third world woman any day. Because Id rather achieve status here than run to another nation to have lower class women chase me because they want to live it up, since their lives dont compare to ours in Westernized nations. I wouldnt feel like a success getting those women, I want the upper echelon hard to attain gal. But thats just me I guess.

DJs dont make women the center of their lives. Women are just a result of the DJs success in life and positive philosophy. A real man does not need to troll new neighborhoods because he failed at home. He adapts and succeeds.

At least thats how I see it.

Do you read yourself when you write?

This post is
1)psychological attacks toward the poster
2)shaming
3)discrimination toward women outside the west,typical of women who lose their grip "they are all b1tches" example
4)the mind game of "no real men move but instead remain no matter what".

Those are the same exact point any fat ass 35yrs old single girl scream to any man talking about foreign girls out of anger and envy.
You are either a woman as they said or you're a man who probably grow up in a culturally polluted environment who gave him a distorted vision of things.

 

[ZenoB]

Excuse me for being above the need for sex and that I am going to make the most of my life in America (one of the worlds greatest nations) Not giving up here and running off to a crappier nation just in the pursuit of puzzy. You can say you leave for other reasons but we know that you all wouldnt be leaving Western nations if you knew youd get the same result from females elsewhere.

Id take a quality first world women over a lower class third world woman any day. Because Id rather achieve status here than run to another nation to have lower class women chase me because they want to live it up, since their lives dont compare to ours in Westernized nations. I wouldnt feel like a success getting those women, I want the upper echelon hard to attain gal. But thats just me I guess.

DJs dont make women the center of their lives. Women are just a result of the DJs success in life and positive philosophy. A real man does not need to troll new neighborhoods because he failed at home. He adapts and succeeds.

I moved to a western european country from america for a new job, for travel, and for the life experience. I thought it would only be for a year, and now it's been a few. In the end, what's kept me from moving back to the states are the woman here.

Even if the women here are just as westernized as the ones in the states, at least they are exotic to me and not obese. And eastern europe is not that far away.

You'd be surprised how cool it is to live in a place where you are not the majority. It really changes your world perspective after a while.

 

[sstype]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying into this whole "foreign women are better" theme.

If you're having success outside of the U.S. its for only two reasons

1. Money. No need to elaborate

2. Novelty. Of course FW are going to flock to you if they're used to dating darker skinned guys and here you come with blonde hair/blue eyes speaking English. You're basically a celebrity in their eyes. If you were a famous celebrity here in the U.S. you would think that American women are so fun and wild. It's all about perception.

The native guys in these foreign countries probably complain about their lack of success with local women and then find that American women go crazy over their accent or something stupid like that. Again, its all about novelty.

 

[Jaylan]

Do you read yourself when you write?

This post is
1)psychological attacks toward the poster

I am allowed my point of view right? If you dont like it, cry elsewhere. It aint hard getting women here, but go ahead and take the defeatist route if you wish

2)shaming

Cry more?

3)discrimination toward women outside the west,typical of women who lose their grip "they are all b1tches" example

Why would I want a women whos class is way beneath mine and who has a greater chance of wanting me for status and money and not because she either thinks im hot or actually likes me for me. I actually value being liked for who I am. Guess thats foreign to some.

4)the mind game of "no real men move but instead remain no matter what".

If you can see you failed here and werent up to par, then be honest with yourself and say it

Those are the same exact point any fat ass 35yrs old single girl scream to any man talking about foreign girls out of anger and envy.

He mad guys, he mad

You are either a woman as they said or you're a man who probably grow up in a culturally polluted environment who gave him a distorted vision of things.

Actually I pride myself as a high standards, and high value man. I do not accept defeat and wish my brothers would do the same. I guess I must be a woman for being above the need for sex that I give up and run for easy lower quality tail. I want men to be better than that. Because when you do that, you are still giving the collective unit, that is the female gender, power. You still put them on a pedestal and give away your power to them with these actions.

Just because you gain a little power from a third world girl doesnt mean your giving up didnt give power to the first world women. We are smarter and better than throwing in the towel. Thats all Im getting at.

And please spare me with calling people women when you dislike their opinion. Its a pathetic, weak and repetitive attempt to insult and debase someones comment.

bolded response for you to read.

I moved to a western european country from america for a new job, for travel, and for the life experience. I thought it would only be for a year, and now it's been a few. In the end, what's kept me from moving back to the states are the woman here.

Even if the women here are just as westernized as the ones in the states, at least they are exotic to me and not obese. And eastern europe is not that far away.

You'd be surprised how cool it is to live in a place where you are not the majority. It really changes your world perspective after a while.

Im black in the United States so I know how it feels. That made me lol that you said that though. Ill be a minority wherever I go that is not an African nation. Thing is that being a black minority anywhere will def have its bad sides to go along with any of the good.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying into this whole "foreign women are better" theme.

If you're having success outside of the U.S. its for only two reasons

1. Money. No need to elaborate

2. Novelty. Of course FW are going to flock to you if they're used to dating darker skinned guys and here you come with blonde hair/blue eyes speaking English. You're basically a celebrity in their eyes. If you were a famous celebrity here in the U.S. you would think that American women are so fun and wild. It's all about perception.

The native guys in these foreign countries probably complain about their lack of success with local women and then find that American women go crazy over their accent or something stupid like that. Again, its all about novelty.

This ad infinitum.

My french classmates for my senior year just went back to France this summer and had the EASIEST time getting women. They said its way easier than at home in France. And they told me that when I come there, being black and American in a Paris club has the same affect they had on women here in NY.

Hes right, Its novelty. But I would rather have game, value, standards, and confidence that creates my own novelty for women.

 

[Strelok]

bolded

I confirm what I previously said about you, and you confirmed it yourself.

Second you really failed cause I never moved anywhere being myself easter european so all the random crap you wrote doesnt apply to me, I often move because my job expect me to,nothing more.
Keep your cosmopolitan cheap psychology for your lady night out or better yet hit the treadmill instead of trolling here.
If you happen to be a man, join a gym, improve yourself and lose your virginity, after that your view on women will change.

Btw no anger or hate from me, keep your opinions if you want.