the SECRET to going from beta to alpha , OVERNIGHT

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I don't understand the alpha-beta dichotomy.

It's a spectrum where you lie on.

Social status, physical appearance, hormones, mindset, education, wealth & resources.

I agree with @RangerMIke on caring about our own selves first.

Read books, apply that knowledge.
Workout, eat right.
Sleep well, meditate.
Be the man with a plan with his life.
Become more useful to your own self everyday.
Network.
Get money right.
Approach, learn social skills, vocal tonality, body language, posture, eye contact.
Apply.
Work on your own life, make it something you're proud of.

Being aloof and nonchalant will 10/10 get you laid more.
But how can you pretend or actually "not care" if you're doing it to get laid.

It's a paradox.

Short circuit it by taking control of your own life, focus on yourself. Period.
ok i agree i need to work on vocal tonality and definitely body language, not doin so bad with eye contact, ive been practicing for a while.

, really not caring is better than faking it. the whole point of this post wasnt to say ''act like you dont care to get women'' thats the exact opposite point , that my friend is caring too much.
 
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Agreed and understood. I think the OP is right.

I was just putting the caveat in that extreme IDGAF is not recommended though.

TLDR: IDGAF is very good up to a point.
I think he means he ain't worried about the ladies who aren't worried about him. Not even on his radar.
 

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Twisting yourself into a knot to make people happy is the fastest rout to weak behavior. And trust me when I say this, with 30 plus years of dating experience behind me, chicks are completely turned off by men that cater to them.
this was the whole point of the post guys , to not get twisted up over things.

seems like a few guys didnt get it.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If you 100% don't care, then you are full MGTOW/volcel/gave up on women.

I mean on SOME level, you still have to LIKE women and still want SOMETHING from them.
you think those mgtow guys dont care?bruh they care way too much otherwise they wouldnt yell out ''MGTOW BROTHER!''

if im really going my own way i'll just go, idont need to come up with a group of guys to prove it. to me they are trying to shame women into changing their nature or guilt them into change. doesnt work like that no one cares if you go your own way
 

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Easy to say, but men have natural instincts that are hard to suppress. If every man in the world suddenly stopped being interested in sex tomorrow, women would be going up the wall, but unless that happens to be an unknown side-effect of Covid that's not going to happen.
i have instincts to eat junk food because it taste good , but that doesnt mean i should just throw health out the window does it?
 

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If you already had it and got off on a detour it's like riding a bike. Taking the necessary actions it comes back quickly. Surprisingly so.
Maintenance is the bare minimum in self development, getting it back means you were not even maintaining and that is ok, if your developing in other areas, but to not develop at all, you wont quickly get back what you could of had, in fact, you might not ever get it back, but that is OK, it's something we have to come to terms with, our good and bad choices, we can only change the future.

I think this coming to terms with the death of your full potential is a large part of self development, but realistically will anyone ever hit their full potential? Ego might allow them to believe so, but we can always do better and improve.

If this is really an over night solution, what were you doing last night and the night before that? Probably similar things to what you'll do tonight and tomorrow night, old habits die hard.
 

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Maintenance is the bare minimum in self development, getting it back means you were not even maintaining and that is ok, if your developing in other areas, but to not develop at all, you wont quickly get back what you could of had, in fact, you might not ever get it back, but that is OK, it's something we have to come to terms with, our good and bad choices, we can only change the future.

I think this coming to terms with the death of your full potential is a large part of self development, but realistically will anyone ever hit their full potential? Ego might allow them to believe so, but we can always do better and improve.

If this is really an over night solution, what were you doing last night and the night before that? Probably similar things to what you'll do tonight and tomorrow night, old habits die hard.
Full potential would be considered "infinity". The goal should be gaining in the areas that are important to you. And a satisfying life.
 

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missing the point
I don't think you have a point to begin with, not caring means your taking yourself out of the dominance hierarchy, competition with your fellow man is inescapable, not caring is a response to not being competitive. Dudes who are competing, they care a lot, enough to maintain themselves and continue their development.

But please, explain how not caring has any impact on dominance hierarchy, alpha/beta.
 

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Shyt went right over your head man. Thats why you loose your temper so much with women. Carry on
I notice you have this habit of attacking responses using general statements, it's getting a bit old, if you can't communicate your point, it's because you don't have one.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I don't think you have a point to begin with, not caring means your taking yourself out of the dominance hierarchy, competition with your fellow man is inescapable, not caring is a response to not being competitive. Dudes who are competing, they care a lot, enough to maintain themselves and continue their development.

But please, explain how not caring has any impact on dominance hierarchy, alpha/beta.
im not going to explain myself, because i dont care. see how this works?
 

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I don't think you have a point to begin with, not caring means your taking yourself out of the dominance hierarchy, competition with your fellow man is inescapable, not caring is a response to not being competitive. Dudes who are competing, they care a lot, enough to maintain themselves and continue their development.

But please, explain how not caring has any impact on dominance hierarchy, alpha/beta.
Competing on what though? If my next door neighbor puts up a new fence or gets a new Ford F250 Diesel truck, I'm not going to go out and try to "one up" him in an area I don't even CARE ABOUT because my solution works for me. Someone insecure would go out and try to "top" him.

We don't sweat females because it DOESN'T WORK. How we plug into some bullsh1t heirarchy that she likely doesn't even ascribe to gets us women how?
 

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Competing on what though? If my next door neighbor puts up a new fence or gets a new Ford F250 Diesel truck, I'm not going to go out and try to "one up" him in an area I don't even CARE ABOUT because my solution works for me. Someone insecure would go out and try to "top" him.

We don't sweat females because it DOESN'T WORK. How we plug into some bullsh1t heirarchy that she likely doesn't even ascribe to gets us women how?
Dominance Hierarchy has nothing to do with women, at all, it is about men testing other men and the men who are tested, displaying their reaction... If your reaction to being tested is "I don't care" that is a black pill mentality. Most men here, whether they know it or not, were not driven here by women, but other men, and once the other man is involved, she tests your reaction and you react badly, blame her, when in reality, it is the presence of the other man that invoked the test.

If your neighbor is a better prospect than you, you should not care, because you are self developing... Not caring without self development means you are defaulting and any man who is defaulting, is accepting death into his life, women can freely not care because their default is house wife, our default is death.
 

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don't think you have a point to begin with, not caring means your taking yourself out of the dominance hierarchy, competition with your fellow man is inescapable, not caring is a response to not being competitive. Dudes who are competing, they care a lot, enough to maintain themselves and continue their development.
unless you talkin sports , or gaming
women compete with each other , not men.
we too worried about being our best selves bro.
the hierarchy regulates itself yo, i dont do ranking because i dont want to tell you what to do cause i dont want to be responsible for your failures , i have enough responsibility as it is . and i dont like being told what to do, because i trust my own judgement and critical thinkin skills.
we have to agree to disagree on this one
 
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