The rise of Men Going Gay

[sangheilios]

Will Smith is probably gay, from what accounts I've seen. Having followed his entire career, I can say that with at least 50% assurance.

What causes gayness is not that deep or complex. That is what they all want you to think. The reality is that it is far simpler of a cause: a corruption of their sexual paradigm. Whether by porn addiction, starvation of the opposite sex, or molestation as a child.

That "different" they felt was a stigma that came from one of these three. I will stress again, do not take seriously what gay people tell you considering they are already disrupting their natural protocol and going after the wrong sex. They're the last people to expect any kind of truths from. They live in a mindspace of constant contradictions in their head. Not even they know what that "different" was.

I actually agree with what you are saying, especially this last segment of your response.

I personally think Obama is gay. Justin Beiber I believe is also, especially when he was hanging around P Diddy early on in his career, who we now know is a homo lol.

 

[sangheilios]

Women are going gay too. That has to be factored into the evaluation.

@HaleyBaron brought up a very interesting idea, in that sexual trauma or some forms of abuse can lead to homosexuality. I can cite 2 females that I know of, not relatives, that have very unusual circumstances with men.

One had a mother who was very strange and constantly had this fixation that all men were predatory and to be careful of them. She always had the daughter dress up like a boy, had a short haircut, etc. This was from early childhood and on. Anyway, she's somewhere around 30 now or so and been a lesbian for a long time.

The other had a very unusual household with a severely autistic and mentally retarded brother that was out of control. He was probably on the level of a 3 or 4 year old intellectually but could not be managed at all. Anyway, he had a history of sexually assaulting people, from what I actually know he would grope genital areas and things like that. The woman I'm discussing had severe issues with men and was always paranoid around them, it's kind of difficult for me to explain without elaborating on very specific things. She's basically the female version of an incel.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Women are going gay too. That has to be factored into the evaluation.

Why? Women often swing both ways, but if they're lesbians they weren't up for straight sex anyway. I don't think women are getting more lesbian, but I do understand that many women don't enjoy men their own age anymore. From what I hear, most guys their own age are so gay...

 

[corrector]

No man is gay to start with. Nor is a man born gay. Frustration with the opposite sex or lack of getting sex from the opposite sex is easy grounds to going to the easier option. This is why this reason is often censored in talks of gay therapy.

I am probably the most frustrated and hapless guy on here when it comes to the opposite sex and I am not gay and more likely homophobic. I dont understand that because I like women (if they are safely on the other side a screen).

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Why? Women often swing both ways, but if they're lesbians they weren't up for straight sex anyway. I don't think women are getting more lesbian, but I do understand that many women don't enjoy men their own age anymore. From what I hear, most guys their own age are so gay...

Lesbians will make an exception for the right guy.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I am probably the most frustrated and hapless guy on here when it comes to the opposite sex and I am not gay and more likely homophobic. I dont understand that because I like women (if they are safely on the other side a screen).

You're still not frustrated enough to want to turn to men. Nor will I say that being frustrated necessitates becoming gay. But it's the usual marker for going that route.

Here is another hot take that the lgbt world does not like to hear: all of them are the definition of the "incel" moniker.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Haley,
I still haven't firmed up my thoughts on this.....Some Days I think it one of the adjuncts indicating a Society in Collapse....Certainly happens to lesser beings like Rats and Mice....Calhoun observed it in his experiments,wrote it up in "The Behavioural Sink",a good Squizz!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There is also the situation in which an ideology espoused by the man prevents him from even thinking about his potential or even real attraction for other men. Ideology is a very, very powerful de/motivator that often is not considered in these discussions.

Personally, when I see PDA displays of same sex couples I do kind of have a low level yuck response. That said it is less the case when I see it between otherwise attractive females, if it’s two blue haired warthog dykes I have the same response as I would to two men.

Furthermore, I don’t really care, other than my instant reaction and believe people should do whatever makes them happy as long as it does not affect me or others, in more than just reacting momentarily to something I do not like to see.

A rhetorical question for the assembled:

Do you react violently to PDA between men, but think two woman, say kissing is hot? Do you seek out images of women getting it on? Food for thought.

 

[corrector]

You're still not frustrated enough to want to turn to men.

There is no level of frustration that will ever make me turn to guys, because it does not compute with me.

With all the talk of AI girlfriends, sex robots, music videos, sex toys, sex dolls, huggable long pillows, OnlyFans, and of course, escortcelling, it looks like they are plenty of "frustrated" options that don't require anyone to "turn gay".

The levels of frustrations I have experienced in the past have steered me towards subscribing to a girl on OF, not becoming gay.

Out of curiosity, I have not been with a woman in 10 years. I think that must be worst than most people on here. You want to say that I'm not frustrated enough? How would you even figure that?

Nor will I say that being frustrated necessitates becoming gay. But it's the usual marker for going that route.

Here is another hot take that the lgbt world does not like to hear: all of them are the definition of the "incel" moniker.

I don't see that on incel sites (when they have that). There are more discussions about paying for it with a woman than sexual orientation.

 

[corrector]

There is also the situation in which an ideology espoused by the man prevents him from even thinking about his potential or even real attraction for other men. Ideology is a very, very powerful de/motivator that often is not considered in these discussions.

Personally, when I see PDA displays of same sex couples I do kind of have a low level yuck response. That said it is less the case when I see it between otherwise attractive females, if it’s two blue haired warthog dykes I have the same response as I would to two men.

Furthermore, I don’t really care, other than my instant reaction and believe people should do whatever makes them happy as long as it does not affect me or others, in more than just reacting momentarily to something I do not like to see.

A rhetorical question for the assembled:

Do you react violently to PDA between men, but think two woman, say kissing is hot? Do you seek out images of women getting it on? Food for thought.

Agreed, if it's two women it's hot. I would fast forward or would never want to watch two guys if it's a scene in a movie, but if it's two women, I have to discipline myself to fast forward it, because admittedly it's a turn on to watch this.

I wouldn't touch male gay porn with a 10 foot pole and don't even like looking at thumnails of hardcore porn sites because the odd gay one might come up and it ruins the whole experience. However, if it's hetro or women to women then it's something that I wouldn't mind.

Good point.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

A lot of gay guys are good looking. If they wanted to go straight. They’d get pu$$y.

 

[Divorced w 3]

A lot of gay guys are good looking. If they wanted to go straight. They’d get pu$$y.

A lot of them did before they came out - not talking to their women that they were on the side seeing men using these women as cover sexually. It’s morally repugnant

 

[Divorced w 3]

There is also the situation in which an ideology espoused by the man prevents him from even thinking about his potential or even real attraction for other men. Ideology is a very, very powerful de/motivator that often is not considered in these discussions.

Personally, when I see PDA displays of same sex couples I do kind of have a low level yuck response. That said it is less the case when I see it between otherwise attractive females, if it’s two blue haired warthog dykes I have the same response as I would to two men.

Furthermore, I don’t really care, other than my instant reaction and believe people should do whatever makes them happy as long as it does not affect me or others, in more than just reacting momentarily to something I do not like to see.

A rhetorical question for the assembled:

Do you react violently to PDA between men, but think two woman, say kissing is hot? Do you seek out images of women getting it on? Food for thought.

Gay PDA as long as it’s any reasonable level that a straight couple would do doesn’t bother me these days. Any slob fest of any orientation I think is low class

 

[Millard Fillmore]

I can tell who's gay on this thread alone - but I won't out any of you.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Out of curiosity, I have not been with a woman in 10 years. I think that must be worst than most people on here. You want to say that I'm not frustrated enough? How would you even figure that?

I don't know you enough to make any assumptions. Last I remember, you spoke a lot of doing escorts, which is a fair outlet for frustration. Frustration is one of the ingredients, not the entire whole for it. I spoke earlier that the main components tend to be abuse as a child, mental trauma, and lack of sexual release. Gay men tend to have a sense of submissiveness to the reality of the world, and just assume they are attracted to men. When in reality, it is more of a mental disorder stemming from something else. Prison already gives us one reality of homosexuality with a reason behind it: removal of women.

Though I would say men are better at doing the gay thing than women. Women are gayness just does not work the same way with how men do it.

 

[The Duke]

Has anyone ever met a masculine gay man? Most gay men come across as a little feminine to me.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I have no opinion about the origin of gays wheter it's genetics, biology or environment.

What confuse the whole picture even more is that many men are attracted from shemales which have (beside the tool), the appearance of very feminine women due to their extensive use of surgery.
Those same men are not attracted in the same amount from women as a straight man would but dont feel any attraction for masculine bodies as gay guys would.

Regarding lesbians you have some that take the role of the man and look manly (you can see higher T on their faces) while others retain the conventional role and look of women.
Some lesbian really seem programmed to be lesbian while others become so for mental reasons.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Those same men are not attracted in the same amount from women as a straight man would but dont feel any attraction for masculine bodies as gay guys would.

I put this under the umbrella of ladyboys. I would still just call that a preference for a gay partner, but it's still as gay as the guys who like the manly high T bodies. The key point however is that the man retains his attraction to feminine appearances so your argument does make sense from that point of view. Then you have to ask, why some men fall into liking shemales.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Has anyone ever met a masculine gay man? Most gay men come across as a little feminine to me.

Yes, I met masculine gay men.

Most homosexual men come across as gay, but there are quite a few where you wouldn't notice. Some of them behave exaggerated 'feminine', but it's not really how feminine women act.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Then you have to ask, why some men fall into liking shemales.

Because they want to be misoginist and patriarcal at the same time so they dislike women but want to own someone that looks like one.

This is not a serious answer btw