The Perfect Don Juan

[Anti-Dump]

THE PERFECT DON JUAN
He asks for a girl's phone number when he FIRST meets or sees her. Not one month later.

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.

A Don Juan always waits four or more days before calling a girl. She must wait.

A Don Juan never arranges a date face-to-face with a girl. He always calls first. She must wait and wonder about him.

He sees a girl ONLY once a week for the first three weeks. He has to 'clear' his dates with other women. Or pretend he is busy with other women. He says he is busy if she wants more.

A Don Juan never gives flowers, cards, or gifts for the first two months. Her birthday is the only exception .

He never talks over an hour with a women on the phone. EVER. Twenty minutes is tops. He avoids contact with her. With e-mails and messages, etc. between dates. He calls once to arrange the next date.

During the first three months he tells her NOTHING about himself. She has to ask. When asked, he gives only tiny itty bitty pieces.

He waits for her to say 'I love you' first. Then he knows she really means it.

A Don Juan never says 'I love you' before two months. Ever.

A Don Juan NEVER proposes before six months. He prefers to wait one year. All minor flaws must be seen.

A Don Juan never lives with a women. He is a free man. He will marry the BEST when he meets her.

A Don Juan only FOCUSES on the romantic side of a women. He knows long talks lead to friendship not LOVE. He knows being a mystery fascinates her and makes her WONDER and WANT him.

And lastly, a true Don Juan
makes sure the relationship is 50-50. HALF of the time she is doing what HE wants to do. He feels this in his stomach. Not head.

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[Cecil]

Ok I am taking notes

You can be a gentleman without revealing too much about yourself and without treating her like a princess. Its a difficult path to walk but the rewards are always great

Excellent post AD!!

-Cecil

 

[Anti-Dump]

Cecil,

Thanks.

But it also means you CAN'T BRAG. Guess what? Women love that!

She: What kind of car do you have?

You: It's foreign.

She: Who makes it?

You: It's a two door.

She: What's the darn name?!

You: Oh all right. You sure ask alot of questions. It's a Porsche.

She: (impressed) Oh!

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[AKA FLEX]

Excuse me while I go get a pen and paper.

Great post A-D, I think I've learned more useful **** here than in all my years of schooling

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[[---AKA FLEX---]]

"Pu$$y is pu$$y, salt is salt, if you don't get none it's your own damn fault"

 

[Anti-Dump]

Flex,

Thanks.

But VIOLATE THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK!

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[Anti-Dump]

To all men,

This is how you PROTECT your heart.

AD

 

[MINDSET]

Anti- Dump, you the muthafu**in man. That was the best post I have read since I signed up here. Thanks man, I got my pen and pad and I am, **** that, I will print out the page and keep it in my wallet for reference. Yo, when I read your ad, I think back and I see how I lost girls in the past, I see how I **** up with so many chicks in the past. Yo dog, that was the ****, keep it up man!

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If a dude ain't getting pu$$y, it's because dude don't want to get pu$$y!!

 

[Anti-Dump]

Mindset,

Thanks. Modify it to fit your life style and personality.

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[Low Self Esteem]

i have to disagree with anti on this one. (some of them)
i have stayed on the phone with girls for hours at a time every day. how you come across in your conversation is what really counts. "conversation runs the nation"

girls aint that dumb they know we just want the pannies in a hurry. they rarely get to have good conversation with men because men aint skilled in this area

the things that you are describing is "game" and yes you need some game, but i truly believe the following;

"He asks for a girl's phone number when he FIRST meets or sees her. Not one month later."
1. don't ask her for her number, give her yours- if she is with it she will call - it also shows you have some type of confidence to leave the ball in her court

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.
2.doing #1 will eliminate your second point

A Don Juan always waits four or more days before calling a girl. She must wait.
3. it will also eliminate your third point

A Don Juan never arranges a date face-to-face with a girl. He always calls first. She must wait and wonder about him.
4. i agree, wait to set a date

He sees a girl ONLY once a week for the first three weeks. He has to 'clear' his dates with other women. Or pretend he is busy with other women. He says he is busy if she wants more.
5. i think that until you have that girl wrapped up and secure that you dont only see her once a week because until she wants only you- than she will still be open to others and while you see her that one day a week, I'm creepin in the other days

A Don Juan never gives flowers, cards, or gifts for the first two months. Her birthday is the only exception .
6.that sounds coo

He never talks over an hour with a women on the phone. EVER. Twenty minutes is tops. He avoids contact with her. With e-mails and messages, etc.between dates. He calls once to arrange the next date.
6. i think this is a huge mistake. answer this "how does a pimp get hoes, how can a man make a woman sell her body" and the answer is conversation. if you are a good talker/listener you can have any broad you want. women LLLOOOVVVEE to talk and if you deny her that, she will satisfy that natural urge somewhere else

During the first three months he tells her NOTHING about himself. She has to ask. When asked, he gives only tiny itty bitty pieces
7.mystery, thats coo

He waits for her to say 'I love you' first. Then he knows she really means it
8. yeah that is coo too

A Don Juan never says 'I love you' before two months. Ever.
9. if even that soon

A Don Juan NEVER proposes before six months. He prefers to wait one year. All minor flaws must be seen.
10. i believe even a year is too soon

A Don Juan never lives with a women. He is a free man. He will marry the BEST when he meets her.
11. TOTALLY DISAGREE!! Don't just shack up wit any ol broad but if it is marrying the best that you are tryna do, than you better live with her ass before you even think about marriage. i have lived with broads before and i swear to you it is a totally different ballgame once you live with them, than it is when you don't. you better test them waters before you decide to be thinkin bout marriage. human nature makes you always want to do something and then once you do it or get what you want then you see it aint what you thought, and in this case if you are talkin bout a girl you better be sure.

A Don Juan only FOCUSES on the romantic side of a women. He knows long talks lead to friendship not LOVE. He knows being a mystery fascinates her and makes her WONDER and WANT him.
12. i say a true DJ knows that women 100% of the time will tell you that a friend is what they want. they want to be friends before lovers, so hell yeah i want her to think i am her friend

And lastly, a true Don Juan makes sure the relationship is 50-50. HALF of the time she is doing what HE wants to do. He feels this in his stomach. Not head.
13. coo

these are just my opinions, it is what has worked for me. I believe Anti-Dump has used his and it worked for him, it's all good.



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[Low Self Esteem]

damn i hit the wrong button


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[Ryan]

yo AD,

Now I can't believe u gave out that kinda priceless information out 4 free!

Man, that was probably ur best post eva and I definitly think it is Hall-of-fame material.

But I'll like 2 enhance your getting the digits section:

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:
THE PERFECT DON JUAN
He asks for a girl's phone number when he FIRST meets or sees her. Not one month later.

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.

AD

ok, I don't think a dj should ask a girl 4 her # but instead should demand it.


The following dialogue is wrong:

Girl: whoa ur sexy.....blah,blah,blah

Ryan: umm...may I have ur # please? (notice how I appear like an AFC)

Girl: I don't think that will be neccessary.


The following dialogue is correct:

Girl: whoa ur sexy......blah,blah,blah

Ryan: umm....I'm kinda late(looking at my watch) give me your # so I can get back 2 u (notice the assertiveness

)

Girl: oh ...here it is, 123456

(u c I have put pressure on her b/c I'm "late" and I'm demanding the # so there will be a very little chance of her saying no

)

Ryan: ok I gotta jet, I call u as soon as I can.

(I know thius makes me sound kinda desperate but I only call her 5 days after; she'll be thinking: I wonder Y he is so busy b/c he said he'll call me as soon as he could

....I hope I can get a piece of his sausage )


Anyway, AD u definately got ur sh*t 2gether and that post could be included in 1 of Allen's textbooks

Hey!, Do u really drive a porsche?

Your Homeboy,
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~R*Y*A*N~

"I have run out of ways to fail; now I can only succeed!!!"

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[Anti-Dump]

Thanks guys,

Low Self Esteem,

You don't give a girl your number if you can avoid it. Women only use your number to CANCEL dates. Not hook up.

I feel if you move right in with a women during the first three months the mystery is killed and it's impossible for her to fall in love. Most live-in relationships last only 18 months. The average marriage that fails is five years. You be the judge.
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Ryan,

You are right. Only a weak man says 'may I pretty please have your number . Is that O.K.?"

Porsche? No, that was a example. I was trying to show if you really have something to brag about you must keep to to yourself like everything else.
I drive a Ford. He,he,he!!!

AD

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[terminator911]

Hi there guys... I am new to the forum and I think that this thread has some great advice. Keep it up.

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[The Wonder(ing) Man]

Anti-Dump,
This is really great... and now I know why I lose some cool chicks in the past. Muchas Gracias, Amigo!!!

Anyway, I'm closing in for this girl... We've been going out (not really dates, just hang around) for about 2 or 3 times. However, I see that I've violated some of the Rules:
1. I gave her a box of chocolate on the third outing (I work in a choc company and I got a box free from my boss);
2. Now I realize, that these past days I've made myself 'too' available for her... I send her e-mails everyday, I'm trying to ask her out 2 times last week (once succesful, once not), I showed too much interest in her when I'm with her..
3. I asked her to watch a movie when I just get her home after our 3rd outing (and she answered by telling me that she'd be very busy next week, but she'd call me if she'd some times).

Well... Now I kinda have the feeling that her LOI is decreasing... Do you think the situation is still salvageable?

Thanks,
The Wonder(ing) Man
PS.: It seems that someone is using the Wondering persona... it's not me, though...

 

[Low Self Esteem]

AD,
the reason i say give a chick your number instead is because if she uses it than she obviously is interested in you and if that is the case than she wont be cancelling dates unless it's legitimate.

And yes i would not move in that soon (first 3 months) i agree that could affect things bad, but if you are talkin bout really getting serious with her and marriage and stuff then i feel you need to see how you get along with her before you commit to that.

PS-Thanks for not taking a "difference of opinion" as a personal attack

 

[Ace20]

Hey AD,

You are the man when it comes to being a DJ. I am going to print this post and hang it up where I can see it every morning to remind me how to play the game. Thanks for all the advice and help you have given, keep it comin.

 

[Anti-Dump]

LSE,

When I ask a girl for her number I know INSTANTLY, right THEN, if she is interested. When you give a girl YOUR number you will be waiting around for days or weeks to find out if she is interested. Why on earth would you want to wait around for a call? I find out right away.

I have never given out my number. But research I have done says this: very, VERY few women call you back this way.

Why would you WAIT to see if she's interested, when you could find out INSTANTLY? Please reply.

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[Coolage]

Anti-Dump:
You are the man!
You really should write a book.

I used to give my number out to girls(sometimes I still do). They call but I am waiting for them. I would probably be a better Don Juan with your method.

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Coolage

 

[Anti-Dump]

ACE,

Now go out and RULE the chicks!

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Wondering man,

Too much interest. Cut it, PLEASE!

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[Low Self Esteem]

AD,
I will tell you why this works for me.
"I don't give a f*ck if she is interested or not"
now i know this sounds foolish but let me explain. i love girls and sex just as much as any other man but i have learned that we can all get pu**y regardless of how ugly, broke, or dysfunctional we are.

i don't care that much if she calls me or not, and i believe that it is that type of attitude that most dudes dont have. they take it personally when a chick doesn't call, they have to have the chick call to make themselves feel good or worthwile.

if she chose not to call till days or weeks later, i don't care, i have not been holding my breath- and at the same time every other guy is comin at her tryna hit her up for her number, i just leave it to her whether she wants to call or not.

i learned somthing from a 42 year old crack fiend once-he told me just be yourself because at the end of the day the chick is gonna choose who she wants, not who wants her.
i have been to parties where i have seen my friends do their best to talk to, impress, read, and pick up girls and the end result is that she wants someone else.

i put myself out there and then leave it up to the chick to respond.

just to be fair and to tell the truth i don't do this 100% of the time, it depends.

if you care too much for anything you leave yourself vulnerable