mugatts said:
While I agree that giving each other space after a break up is necessary, the no contact rules with hidden agenda is just childish and will result in more misery. I think each person should remain true to themselves, do what you really believe is right for you.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE! However what I see sometimes with people on here or elsewhere, they use NC to get an ex back, while sometimes it works, it will ultimately end the same way it started. The end result is the same with an ex, if nothing has changed since you 2 broke up, it will be doomed to fail again and again. I really do think it takes dating around and such to REALLY be on board to someone who dumped me, like "I really had something with this person" but ultimately you can find someone else to be happy with even more than the ex. I've dated around and I've missed SO MUCH in the last 5 years, its mind blowing how some women can be Reading too much into what someone meant with a text message, counting down the days since no contact etc sounds really stressful and a waste of time.
Again fully agree If you believe there is hope for reconciliation, talk to your ex and find that out.
This is where we will disagree, I was the kindest guy but had boundaries and she broke it off after 5 years. SHE broke it off with me, and if the case is if I tried to ask and all I got was a mixed ***** answer, this is where it will harm you because YOU will be putting your all out, while the other is pulled back. Its a losing scenario If the decision to break up is final, then yes detach from them completely and move on with your life because it never stopped. If they change their mind they will let you know but by then you probably won't want them back anyway.
True but from what I've found out is most women can detach in the blink of an eye if things don't go their way, even if they've invested TONS of time into the relationship. I remember my ex telling me "she could get sex if she wanted to (slut, lol) and that lots of men noticed her and she wanted to see what that's all about" and not only that but be really mixed msged about it too. They will never let you know up front, and actions speak louder than words.
Thoughts in bold. For the most part I agree with this, because you shouldn't change your being because of one person. HOWEVER the thing about asking an ex, you never know their mindset, and the thing is EVEN if you have gotten over it, they may haven't, maybe they hold a grudge because "How dare you date other people and ignore me when I dumped you"
Maybe they will act aloof about it.
Reality is, if they broke it off with you, it maybe them, it maybe you. Bottom line is to learn from the failure, because then its not a failure, and that is wisdom. Then when you get your head on straight and become the person you want to be then you can engage because anything they throw at you is meaningless and you can make justified, smart decisions.
Example, I could see my ex left me because she wanted a family and I:
1. Didn't have a home
2. Suck ass job
3. Do not think we were ready for that.
However what is against her is that:
1. I'm graduated
2. With time I got a great job with nice pay.
She was not patient when it came to this but hey, maybe or maybe she won't be able to find someone that could supply her with that (From what I've seen, settling, but thats my opinion. (and everyone else's, lol) )
Another example is that my ex said I didn't have my life together but:
1. With time I got said new job
2. Can afford a new home
3. "Needs my life together" is very opinionated.
For example, my ideals of my life together are:
1. Nice job
2. Nice pay
3. Job secured
4. Ability to purchase and make big payments for said purchases
I could have ALL this, look decent and such, stand in front of a crowd full of women and I bet you only a 1/4th would say I have my life together. Reason being is that they all have DIFFERENT opinions on what that means.
Some women think that being graduated means you have your life together because you have goals and great things are on the horizon.
Others will think being graduated means you wasted your time because you currently have nothing to show for it because they are interested in the "what can you do for me now"
Think on this, though its about commitment and such, it rarely is ever about you, but about what you can give them.