The natural state of a man= SIMP

[inquisitor]

It's in our nature. Although I love SS ,it's still an extreme niche site. Most men (like 90%) are bluepilled. Even the men who entered the space will soon after their stay resort back to their bluepilled tendencies!! The only reason why a man finds the redpill is due to a woman acting up on him some way. Otherwise most men would HAPPILY and even proud be saying they only slept with 1 girl and she is Still with him.

Not too long ago ot was all throughout mankind considered normal that a man would fight another man to the death over a woman's honor. I'm talking " small " shyte like cussing a woman out ir even just loudly arguing type shyte could get you killed by a man who happened to take notice.

It's ingrained in our hearts and souls. Perhaps some men will find peace once they admit this. I am not saying that it's a correct way of thinking . But I do say that the bluepill is more natural state than the red one.

This is a conclusion more intended for philosophical discussion.

The natural state of man is up to anyone's understanding. I would argue that in terms of mate selection, competition is inherent. Our humanity put civilization in place to temper this competition. One will ask, then, where this competitive spirit in men have gone in contemporary society, and why it seems lost to most.

That said, I deduce that with the help of the Internet, men now are more than capable of relearning this lost wisdom, wisdom that is lost through weakening paternal authority and misleading information on masculinity.

We lost the wisdom also because there are people who exist to confuse us, and also since we have wired thinking processes that exist to confuse ourselves.

 

[Gamisch]

Well, their success with women should mean nothing to you because you're not a woman looking for a man in them. So I'd say it's kinda weird if your respect for them is based on the way they connect with women instead of how they connect to you, one man to another.

I know plenty of simps, but their ability to interact with women is entirely irrelevant to me. Some have other skills, some are just a bit insecure but have a pretty good personality making them great friends. I respect the things I value in another man, the things that makes him a good friend and adds value to my life.

It's not that strange. If you are close to someone who keeps getting jobs that use him and eventually dump him you'll see it affect his happiness, and in the long run it will affect you as well. It's never a one day thing. A connection is build over time , and it's normal to want the best for your inner circle.

So it definitely matters how your fellow peers interact with women, money, life in general. If I know that a guy willingly let a woman use him, I do tend to lose respect for him.

 

[Serenity]

It's not that strange. If you are close to someone who keeps getting jobs that use him and eventually dump him you'll see it affect his happiness, and in the long run it will affect you as well. It's never a one day thing. A connection is build over time , and it's normal to want the best for your inner circle.

So it definitely matters how your fellow peers interact with women, money, life in general. If I know that a guy willingly let a woman use him, I do tend to lose respect for him.

Sure, if he's a downer that drags me down then he's a bad friend and if he's just totally unwilling to fix that situation I'll get rid of him real quick. If he has most of his sh!t together and just seem to not quite get how to interact with women then I can look past that if the issue doesn't extend to negatively affecting parts that do matter to me.

If he's open to it I'll try to guide him, like a good friend would. I've provided guidance to some of my friends before and they have improved, they're better for themselves and they're better friends because of it.

I see where you're going with that view and I agree in some contexts.

 

[GoodMan32]

You are right.
Except that you should have written:

For every dominant male there are a hundred submissive men and a thousand submissive women. It's not just 'women like to be led', it is 'people like to be led'. Of course, out of the hundred of submissive men, twenty or so will try to act like the leader and pretend to be dominant, but it requires significant 'frame', whereas to the the true dominants the authority and autonomy comes natural. Out of every hundred men, 80% is submissive and looks to follow, not to lead. Out of every hundred women, 90-95% is a follower, not a leader. And they are more easily led.

You've illustrated why it's pointless for men to fake it.

 

[GoodMan32]

No. Just because some guitarists have natural talent doesn't mean you shouldn't learn to play guitar. Just don't expect to become a virtuoso. But you will be able to entertain around the campfire. And sometimes that should be enough.

Another conclusion you could draw is that while few are born leaders, some accomplish leadership through hard work. But I understand that a negative response seems to be your natural reaction, which is another obstacle that you'd have to overcome.

I'd say the mere fact I attended an event last weekend (even if it ended with me slamming 2 doors) is a sign I'm passionate about making progress.

 

[Gamisch]

I'd say the mere fact I attended an event last weekend (even if it ended with me slamming 2 doors) is a sign I'm passionate about making progress.

Well..perhaps the thread is applicable to you. Maybe you should just get a steady sexworker and build some confidence. I don't know what else to tell you at this point.

Life IS short. And time waits for no man. You either go in balls to the wall, or you'll remain a spectator forever.(EDIT) I thought this was the thread about should some men pay for play)

 

[BaronOfHair]

You've illustrated why it's pointless for men to fake it.

We're all putting on a performance for a live audience when out in public. Ben Carson's disastrous stab at running for office is a case study in what happens when someone takes our current fixation on "authenticity" entirely too seriously

Same is true when it comes to attending to one's social life. There are days when one has the visceral urge to remain on the couch, binge watching the first 6 seasons of GOT for the billionth time, rather than going outside into the fresh air. Nonetheless, if we're living consciously, we don't give into this urge to "be authentic", because we recognize: Men require a healthy does of sunshine every day, to keep your T levels up

 

[BadBoy89]

First it has to be defined what a SIMP is. According to the internet.

"Simp is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship."

That is NOT the natural state of man. The natural state of men is smash anything young and hot. No man is simping for a 46 year old single mother with 2 teenage sons.

But a man will SIMP for a hot 23 year old, 26 year old, even 28 year old. Once she turns 30...ouch. Barq's has Bite!

 

[Gamisch]

First it has to be defined what a SIMP is. According to the internet.

"Simp is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship."

That is NOT the natural state of man. The natural state of men is smash anything young and hot. No man is simping for a 46 year old single mother with 2 teenage sons.

But a man will SIMP for a hot 23 year old, 26 year old, even 28 year old. Once she turns 30...ouch. Barq's has Bite!

May not be the natural DESIRE that a man has, but somehow someway its the natural outcome of most relationships ( especially marriages).

The man ends up jumping through hoops to get sexual favors from his woman. That man probably at some point felt like he won the lottery and he " never had to worry bout p00sy again" ,but nothing could be further from the truth. Research showed that more than 60 %(!!!!)of married women long to cheat.

Plenty of men will SIMP for a 46 y.o woman. Also plenty of younger men. Ofcourse even more men will do this for a woman in her prime.

Don't underestimate the thirst of the modern male.

 

[GoodMan32]

First it has to be defined what a SIMP is. According to the internet.

"Simp is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship."

That is NOT the natural state of man. The natural state of men is smash anything young and hot. No man is simping for a 46 year old single mother with 2 teenage sons.

But a man will SIMP for a hot 23 year old, 26 year old, even 28 year old. Once she turns 30...ouch. Barq's has Bite!

A 46 year old single mom sexually excites me.

 

[Gamisch]

A 46 year old single mom sexually excites me.

Perhaps that's your problem bro.

Imo it's pure cope to say this. Don't get me wrong: I like a good-looking milf any day of the week. But I wouldn't mind hitting her 20 year younger version .

If you wanna "niche-maxxx" and hit on older women the game should be easier. That's why I wonder if you REALLY prefer women like that or you subconsciously know they MIGHT be easier. Despite this you still don't have too much success with them..

I have a role for every woman who scores higher than a 6(,5) on my bones test. All colours, all races and all ages. I don't say the latter is necessarily a good thing..

 

[GoodMan32]

Perhaps that's your problem bro.

Imo it's pure cope to say this. Don't get me wrong: I like a good-looking mile any day of the week. But I wouldn't mind hitting her 20 year younger version .

If you wanna "niche-maxxx" and hit on older women the game should be easier. That's why I wonder if you REALLY prefer women like that or you subconsciously know they MIGHT be easier.

I have a role for every woman who scores higher than a 6(,5) on my bones test. All colours, all races and all ages. I don't say the latter is necessarily a good thing..

I'm the opposite. I'm turned on by the thought of what my peers will look like 20 years from now.

The idea that older broads are easier isn't true. For every older woman who's into a younger piece of arm candy, there are more who are offput by the idea of getting with a 90s baby.

I'd have better luck if I pursued broads closer in age to me (posters on here have even admitted it)

 

[SW15]

But a man will SIMP for a hot 23 year old, 26 year old, even 28 year old. Once she turns 30...ouch. Barq's has Bite!

I know a female acquaintance who tried Seeking in her 30s. It did not go well. Men rejected her as a potential sugar baby and she quickly deleted her Seeking profile.

Meanwhile, on Tinder/Bumble/Hinge, her 30 something self had hundreds of men in the swipe queue. This is for a woman that is very average looking.

 

[GoodMan32]

No, you're wrong. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't carry any weight, except from your own retarded perspective.

Women over 40 are easier to get for the older men. They're certainly easier to get into bed than the younger ones. Mainly because they don't really care about being slut-shamed anymore.

Per your own admission, older broads are easier to get for older men.

We were talking about the likelihood of younger men getting older broads.

 

[SW15]

older broads are easier to get for older men.

Older women aren't even that easy to get for older men. Many older women are more sexually frigid and have more rules around getting sexual with men near their own ages.

 

[GoodMan32]

Older women aren't even that easy to get for older men. Many older women are more sexually frigid and have more rules around getting sexual with men near their own ages.

AmsterdamAssassin insists older broads are easy for older men.

 

[SW15]

older broads are easy for older men.

Depends on the age range of the man and woman. How old are we talking here?

Sexually frigidity and rules around sexual contact tend to increase with age. This is what is commonly called Anti-Slut Defense or ASD in the seduction community.

At a certain point, single women tend to outnumber single men. This doesn't tend to happen until around age 50 or later.

Something that has changed in recent years in older age demographics is more use of dating websites/dating apps. Now, it's common for women 50+ to have hundreds of men chasing them on websites/apps. Even women 50+ are starting to get a sense of abundance like younger women. Men are starting to simp over menopausal/post-menopausal women.

 

[Travel memoir21]

The natural state of a Man is bliss, good natured, natural and willing to bring a helping hand to whomever is in need. It wasn’t always this way, back in the 1950s, it wasn’t unusual to have a 30 minute conversation with your neighbors in the morning….It wasnt unusual to bring a new neighbor a gift….now we have none of that, everything is artificial…everyone is selfish, living a zombie schedule and after their own gain.

Yep brothers, everything seems artificial from the food we eat. Third wave feminism and social media isn’t helping with our women situation either.

The solution is to simply be happy with yourself and where you’re at in life. It’s the journey not the destination which is more important.

Keep your life simple, find people or someone to love…( if you can’t do that, get a dog) volunteer for a righteous endeavor like food banks, hospitals and homeless shelters and take up practices like mediation to calm the mind. When you’re meditating, don’t think of something impersonal, think and focus your mind on God for maximum pleasure and benefit. Peace.

 

[GoodMan32]

Depends on the age range of the man and woman. How old are we talking here?

Sexually frigidity and rules around sexual contact tend to increase with age. This is what is commonly called Anti-Slut Defense or ASD in the seduction community.

At a certain point, single women tend to outnumber single men. This doesn't tend to happen until around age 50 or later.

Something that has changed in recent years in older age demographics is more use of dating websites/dating apps. Now, it's common for women 50+ to have hundreds of men chasing them on websites/apps. Even women 50+ are starting to get a sense of abundance like younger women. Men are starting to simp over menopausal/post-menopausal women.

I believe @AmsterdamAssassin said he meant 40+ year old broads. As for him, I'd estimate he's approximately 60 (based on selfies he's posted on the forum)

 

[Vanderdonck]

Otherwise most men would HAPPILY and even proud be saying they only slept with 1 girl and she is Still with him.

I don't think so but we're all so solipsistic it's hard to tell what's truth and what's "truth."

For my part the stuff I learned here and elsewhere, deep down I innately knew but suppressed because of society's Disney-fied gloss and general cognitive dissonance. A few books and films cut through the b.s. but mostly it's a blue pilled world out there. Simping to me has always seemed to go against the natural order. But again maybe I'm just seeing things with tunnel vision.