The natural state of a man= SIMP

[inquisitor]

It's in our nature. Although I love SS ,it's still an extreme niche site. Most men (like 90%) are bluepilled. Even the men who entered the space will soon after their stay resort back to their bluepilled tendencies!! The only reason why a man finds the redpill is due to a woman acting up on him some way. Otherwise most men would HAPPILY and even proud be saying they only slept with 1 girl and she is Still with him.

Not too long ago ot was all throughout mankind considered normal that a man would fight another man to the death over a woman's honor. I'm talking " small " shyte like cussing a woman out ir even just loudly arguing type shyte could get you killed by a man who happened to take notice.

It's ingrained in our hearts and souls. Perhaps some men will find peace once they admit this. I am not saying that it's a correct way of thinking . But I do say that the bluepill is more natural state than the red one.

This is a conclusion more intended for philosophical discussion.

The natural state of man is up to anyone's understanding. I would argue that in terms of mate selection, competition is inherent. Our humanity put civilization in place to temper this competition. One will ask, then, where this competitive spirit in men have gone in contemporary society, and why it seems lost to most.

That said, I deduce that with the help of the Internet, men now are more than capable of relearning this lost wisdom, wisdom that is lost through weakening paternal authority and misleading information on masculinity.

We lost the wisdom also because there are people who exist to confuse us, and also since we have wired thinking processes that exist to confuse ourselves.

 

[Gamisch]

Well, their success with women should mean nothing to you because you're not a woman looking for a man in them. So I'd say it's kinda weird if your respect for them is based on the way they connect with women instead of how they connect to you, one man to another.

I know plenty of simps, but their ability to interact with women is entirely irrelevant to me. Some have other skills, some are just a bit insecure but have a pretty good personality making them great friends. I respect the things I value in another man, the things that makes him a good friend and adds value to my life.

It's not that strange. If you are close to someone who keeps getting jobs that use him and eventually dump him you'll see it affect his happiness, and in the long run it will affect you as well. It's never a one day thing. A connection is build over time , and it's normal to want the best for your inner circle.

So it definitely matters how your fellow peers interact with women, money, life in general. If I know that a guy willingly let a woman use him, I do tend to lose respect for him.

 

[Serenity]

It's not that strange. If you are close to someone who keeps getting jobs that use him and eventually dump him you'll see it affect his happiness, and in the long run it will affect you as well. It's never a one day thing. A connection is build over time , and it's normal to want the best for your inner circle.

So it definitely matters how your fellow peers interact with women, money, life in general. If I know that a guy willingly let a woman use him, I do tend to lose respect for him.

Sure, if he's a downer that drags me down then he's a bad friend and if he's just totally unwilling to fix that situation I'll get rid of him real quick. If he has most of his sh!t together and just seem to not quite get how to interact with women then I can look past that if the issue doesn't extend to negatively affecting parts that do matter to me.

If he's open to it I'll try to guide him, like a good friend would. I've provided guidance to some of my friends before and they have improved, they're better for themselves and they're better friends because of it.

I see where you're going with that view and I agree in some contexts.