The myth of mental illness!!

[BackInTheGame78]

They have you scared now, so you go back again and again.

They tried the same thing on me with an irregular heartbeat.

I went in specifically for this to be checked. They tell me they don't know what causes it, and a lot of people have it. I need to see a cardiologist.

I go to see the specialist, and he makes me feel stupid for being there, tells me my heart looks great.

Meanwhile, my irregular heartbeat stops on it's own (Pretty sure it was stress induced).

I think most health problems can be cured with keto and intermittent fasting.

Sorry dude but that's a bunch of bullsh!t.

Nobody "has me scared", I simply never want to experience what I did again.

Why? Well, if you ever had it you'd know. The fact that you claim you did but seem to be cool with it makes me think you are writing a work of fiction.

 

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Sorry dude but that's a bunch of bullsh!t.

Nobody "has me scared", I simply never want to experience what I did again.

Why? Well, if you ever had it you'd know. The fact that you claim you did but seem to be cool with it makes me think you are writing a work of fiction.

I come off as arrogant on here. Not always my intention.

My mom has afib and recently had surgery to have it corrected. My uncle had the same surgery some years ago. Afib is no joke. I will probably need surgery one day.

But the science behind an irregular heart beat is bullsh1t. They literally don't know what to tell you. I reckon I'm early onset, so I'd have to wear a monitor for weeks for them to catch it, and even then they couldn't stop it

 

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An irregular heartbeat isn't necessarily afib, either.

You'd have to be on a monitor for it to be classified as such.

I have an irregular heartbeat occasionally, but it isn't afib

I was put through the health care wringer, only to ultimately hear that there was nothing they could do anyway.

 

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And if you lose weight, cut out alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, you minimize your chances of experiencing it.

If life is worth living after cutting out those things, is up to you lol

 

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Sorry dude but that's a bunch of bullsh!t.

Nobody "has me scared", I simply never want to experience what I did again.

Why? Well, if you ever had it you'd know. The fact that you claim you did but seem to be cool with it makes me think you are writing a work of fiction.

I went in to see the cardiologist. They took a scan of my heart. They told me my heart was in great condition. I asked why I'm having an irregular heartbeat. They said it's usually genetic and there was nothing they could do about it.

They wanted to send me to more "specialists." I said fvck you guys, I'm going home.

Stress was what induced mine, I know. I cut out the stressor (my job) and I was ok after.

An irregular heartbeat, from my research, is usually caused by anxiety. So if you want to stop it, best to look at the underlying causes, not see a doctor that doesn't know how to stop it (barring surgery) and wants to put you through the wringer, racking up thousands of needless dollars in healthcare

 

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@BackInTheGame78

That was several years ago. It was an eye opening moment for me regarding health care. Nobody knew what to tell me, yet they kept referring me to other doctors that didn't know what to tell me.

I wasn't as well off as I am now, so I was pissed to have to spend the money for some assh0le to tell me he didn't know.

A simple Google search told me everything that they told me. And it was much cheaper, in hindsight.

Afib isn't really a thing in young people. You may have an irregular heartbeat, but I doubt it's afib. Drinking too much and coming down gives everyone an irregular heartbeat, for example (palpitations).

Yeah, I was scared when it happened. That why I went to the doctor. I'd had an irregular heartbeat before, but that episode lasted 4 days non-stop, so I thought I was dying.

Of course, my heart was fine when I finally saw the doctor. And they were more than happy to send me to a specialist. That was more than happy to send me to another specialist.

This isn't the first time doctors have needlessly referred me to other doctors, either.

It means nothing to them to send you somewhere else because they don't have an answer, but when you're paying out of pocket to be treated like an idiot, you notice

 

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Where's the fun in Keto and intermittent fasting?

In challenging yourself

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I went in to see the cardiologist. They took a scan of my heart. They told me my heart was in great condition. I asked why I'm having an irregular heartbeat. They said it's usually genetic and there was nothing they could do about it.

They wanted to send me to more "specialists." I said fvck you guys, I'm going home.

Stress was what induced mine, I know. I cut out the stressor (my job) and I was ok after.

An irregular heartbeat, from my research, is usually caused by anxiety. So if you want to stop it, best to look at the underlying causes, not see a doctor that doesn't know how to stop it (barring surgery) and wants to put you through the wringer, racking up thousands of needless dollars in healthcare

The issue it can happen at any time. And for me, I don't care how infrequent it would be, I never want it to happen again.

And untreated it significantly raisss the risk of stroke.

Literally I would rather have a finger chopped off than go thru that again

 

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The issue it can happen at any time. And for me, I don't care how infrequent it would be, I never want it to happen again.

And untreated it significantly raisss the risk of stroke.

Literally I would rather have a finger chopped off than go thru that again

I hear you, but I've been through a few episodes since, and I'm still alive.

I could have gone back to the doctor, but they would tell me fvck off, basically.

That's why I wanted to share my experience with you. So you don't get all worked up about it.

A lot of people experience it and it doesn't mean you're dying

I learned it the expensive way lol

 

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Where's the fun in Keto and intermittent fasting?

Life gets boring as you get older.

When I was younger, constantly discovering new avenues of information, I had an eagerness.

I've lost that as I've gotten older. There isn't much new under the sun, so to speak.

But I get a bit of it when I find new ways to challenge myself.

Cold showers are an easy one. Intermittent fasting is too, but I've been doing that for 15 years (16/8). So now I'm gonna go for a 40 hour fast, once or twice a week.

Why not?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I hear you, but I've been through a few episodes since, and I'm still alive.

I could have gone back to the doctor, but they would tell me fvck off, basically.

That's why I wanted to share my experience with you. So you don't get all worked up about it.

A lot of people experience it and it doesn't mean you're dying

I learned it the expensive way lol

You are also significantly increasing your odds for stroke because Everytime it happens you have a much higher risk of throwing a blood clot.

Atrial fibrillation (AFib) increases the risk of stroke five to seven times, and up to 25% of strokes in the elderly are caused by AFib. AFib-related strokes are more severe than other types of strokes and can lead to bedridden status or death.

But I mean you are cool I guess...you can tell all your friends and family you are playing Russian Roulette with your life or your ability to talk/walk/think by increasing your odds of a serious stroke 500-700%.

 

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You are also significantly increasing your odds for stroke because Everytime it happens you have a much higher risk of throwing a blood clot.

Atrial fibrillation (AFib) increases the risk of stroke five to seven times, and up to 25% of strokes in the elderly are caused by AFib. AFib-related strokes are more severe than other types of strokes and can lead to bedridden status or death.

But I mean you are cool I guess...you can tell all your friends and family you are playing Russian Roulette with your life or your ability to talk/walk/think by increasing your odds of a serious stroke 500-700%.

How does afib increase your odds of stroke by 700%?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

How does afib increase your odds of stroke by 700%?

Atrial fibrillation (AFib) increases the risk of stroke because the irregular heartbeat causes blood to pool in the heart's upper chambers, which can lead to the formation of blood clots that can travel to the brain and block blood flow, resulting in a stroke; this is particularly likely to occur in the left atrial appendage, a small pouch in the left atrium where blood can easily stagnate.

 

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Atrial fibrillation (AFib) increases the risk of stroke because the irregular heartbeat causes blood to pool in the heart's upper chambers, which can lead to the formation of blood clots that can travel to the brain and block blood flow, resulting in a stroke; this is particularly likely to occur in the left atrial appendage, a small pouch in the left atrium where blood can easily stagnate.

Yeah, but look up the prevalency of irregular heartbeats.

And notice that not all irregular heartbeats are afib.

My mom lived with afib for decades before it became an issue and she had an ablation.

 

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@BackInTheGame78

And she didn't actually need the surgery. The doctor didn't recommend it

She opted for it because she was literally sick from the side-effects. It wasn't lethal, though.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Yeah, but look up the prevalency of irregular heartbeats.

And notice that not all irregular heartbeats are afib.

My mom lived with afib for decades before it became an issue and she had an ablation.

That's another option for me but since there is no guarantee the first ablation fixes it and many people need 2 or 3, I would rather just stay on the Diltiazem. It has very low incidence of sides effects and I haven't had any issues with it over the many years I have taken it. Especially since I am on the lowest dose.

 

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That's another option for me but since there is no guarantee the first ablation fixes it and many people need 2 or 3, I would rather just stay on the Diltiazem. It has very low incidence of sides effects and I haven't had any issues with it over the many years I have taken it. Especially since I am on the lowest dose.

10-4 man. You obviously know a lot

I just wanted you to know that irregular heartbeats are common

 

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You're 39, according to your byline. That's not old. You're bored because you became jaded. There is a lot new under the sun, but you lost your curiosity. Curiosity is what spurs us on. You've become jaded because you lost your curiosity. And now you become curious how you do when you put yourself to challenges.

I'm never bored. And I'm old enough to be your father. This is not age related, but environmental. If you're not curious about your environment, find a more interesting environment.

Or maybe I've experienced more in my lifetime than you have

Maybe it takes more to excite me?

Lol

 

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Learning your stressors and triggers and consciously finding ways to avoid stress can also be a fun challenge. Not for a thrill seeker.

Dealing with posters like you is my stress relief lol

 

[eli77]

Hi Eli,
Yes please do write a few thoughts down for us....A prominent Phsychiatrist from the past....R.D.Laing,is also worth reading...His thoughts on Schitzophrenia are particularly interesting.

I will as soon as i can brother.