The Jedi Bootcamp Journal.

[Luke Skywalker]

First of all, why would you seriously consider making 3rd grade faces at hot women at the mall? You said you're 30 or something, right? Have some self-respect. There's no need to humiliate yourself and cause people to laugh AT you for the soul purpose of attracting negative attention to yourself. It's counterproductive. And that thing about standing next to HB's until you scare them off is way creepy. Nothing DJ about playing "stalker". Pretty odd.

This idea is 'officially scrapped' - but again, the idea as with Tyler Durgen and Juggler (who advocates going with a hockey mask and dildo attached as a nose, and going out in public - at least at one point) with the missions/bootcamp is not to care. Self-respect is a nice concept, but the way you are applying it here, seems that you are concerned about what other people may be thinking of you. The point of the bootcamps, to some degree is to break that type of thinking.

Tyler Durgen's opener conforms to going up to HB's and standing there. Again, your mind is not free enough to be open to try out new things. What holds people back is fear of rejection, fear of looking different, worrying about what other people think of them, these are the very constructs that have kept us back at achieving our full social potential.

It is no suprise that even a legitimate approach would be bogged down with thoughts such as 'fear of rejection, fear of what the target may think, fear of how she may evaluate your body, or you with other guys, fear what people in the environment will think if the approach goes bad' and a list of many others.

While, I'm not steadfastly advocating to go out with a hockey mask or make faces, I do think that a properly run bootcamp will addres all the psychological hang-ups and baggage that are interfaring with approaches.

Secondly, you said you're a real-estate agent? What's stopping you from having your own place? Do real-estage agents make absolute s'hite in the UK or what? Cause I'll tell you what, I've met plenty of people that live on their own or with a roommate on a minimum wage salary. In the states, your profession can be very lucrative.

Here this profession can be lukerative, but 20% of the agents make over 80% of the money, and it doesn't seem like I'm in that 20%. It's one of those things. The more money and client-referrals you have, the more business you can generate by advertisement and referrals.

The reality is, however, that the way my fortunes currently are, it doesn't cut it to even support myself, and my credit-rating has been shot for around seven years. I'm in no position to live on my own or leave this house unless I suddenly became successful in my business - and I'm planning to change Real-Estate offices to a REMAX office later.

You claim to have meet plenty of people who live in minimum wage salary with their own roommate? How can this be true? They must live in some rat infested slum then.

And if I were you, I'd stop the whole Star Wars crap. Think about it. Would you date a guy whose username is "Luke Skywalker" and refers to himself as a Jedi?

This is an alter-ego identity for purposes of this board - in the interest of anonymity. Does not mean I'm talking about Star Wars to everyone I'm seeing.

 

[Nine Breaker]

Luke, this bootcamp of yours an extremely bad idea. While I do not disagree with you that guys who struggle with approaching women should learn to overcome their own anxiety, this is not the way to go about doing it.

An average frustrated chump (AFC) is not necessarily a man who lacks in his abilities to attract and seduce women. For anyone who truly grasps the concept of being a real man, an AFC is any poor fellow who wastes away his life on the unrealistic hope that finding a woman will bring him happiness. This is one thing that nice guys and jerks have in common, and it is also the reason that both sides inevitably lose out in the end when compared to a man who can find a purpose to his life that relies only upon himself, and not by validation through others.

Your attempts to succeed with women are an attempt to validate your own existence, to justify the endless hours of learning seduction theories, reading the books of so-called experts, and memorising canned line after canned line. From what I have read about you from your posts, it sounds like you have spend well over a decade in your fruitless pursuits of women. Was it not towards the end of high school that you began to develop repeated oneitis' which only resulted in your grades slipping and your ambitions suffering?

Today, now in your thirties, you work in a job that barely keeps you afloat financially, you still live with your parents, a significant amount of your time is spent trying to associate yourself with women with only the slightest of actual contact, and there doesn't seem to be any hint of any of this changing any time soon for you. What is truly saddening about your situation is not that you cannot connect with a woman in any real sense of the word, it is that you have been practically throwing your life away and not trying to make something of yourself - and you almost seem oblivious to it.

This bootcamp you are running is the perfect example of what I am getting at here. Are you seriously suggesting that guys here should willingly go out and spend several hours of their time just to stare at women and see how many times they can say "hi" to them? An inch of time is worth an inch of gold, but you can never buy back an inch of time with an inch of gold. With so many things to see, learn and experience in this world, how can you possibly justify something like this? No amount success with women, in any way, shape or form, can ever be a better thing than using that time to become the best possible man that you can be!

Girls are attracted to boys, but women are attracted to men.

The easiest, and most rewarding way to be successful with women is to become a real man who is capable of living a life of limitless potential.

None of the canned-approaches and lines you have learnt will ever be able to get you as much positive attention from women than you otherwise would if you were a man of real substance and value. All of the theory you have learnt when it comes to women is absoltuely worthless! Does a lion need to learn theory in order to be a lion? Of course it does not! The lion is king of the jungle because it embraces what it is, and acts upon nothing more than what it wants to do, and it does so without hesitation or self doubt.

What you are doing here is counter-productive. Your life needs purpose outside of merely trying to find acceptance through women. After all, you have said that you have been on a number of dates recently, and have attained so many phone numbers from 'sarging' that you have had to throw some of them away. Yet through it all, no matter how many women you meet and go on "priming dates" or "seduction dates" or whatever else you are calling them, they do not seem to stick around for very long.

This, in itself, should show you that your real problem is not with attracting women initially. However much hesitation you feel, or however many wasted opportunities you think you have allowed to pass by, does not excuse the fact that you are getting a few hits of genuine interest every now and then. But - and here is the kicker - whenever the woman tries to scratch beneath the surface of you, she seems to find nothing. When a woman craves a man of substance and character to compliment her life so greatly, why would she ever settle for someone who can give her nothing more than canned-lines and hide who he really is from her?

This is WHY I have always been a strong advocate of being a real man instead of the petty, short-termed seduction tactics that so many other guys advocate throughout life. For not only will it arouse a woman's attention in you like nothing you have ever seen before, it is guaranteed to make you more confident in yourself and assure that your life is not a waste.

I really hope you put some thought into everything I've been getting at here, Luke. You have been stuck on this path for more than 30 years now, and it has slowly taken you nowhere. Even if you were to find the perfect girl for you this very instant, it would not make you any more of a man than you are right now. If you could be content with being that same man forever, than you are selling yourself short.

 

[Lucas718]

Luke - I've read your posts and while I commend you for the effort, I think you may just be over-analyzing everything. Keep it simple. See a girl you like and go say hi. You might get better results. Staring at them just creeps them out.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

An average frustrated chump (AFC) is not necessarily a man who lacks in his abilities to attract and seduce women.

Sure it is. Let's not pervert the defination into something else.

For anyone who truly grasps the concept of being a real man, an AFC is any poor fellow who wastes away his life on the unrealistic hope that finding a woman will bring him happiness.

Or, an AFC, BAFC, WBAFC, is a man who has a pebble in his shoe, a thorn in his side, which is lack of success with women, and no matter how life as a whole is going, that part of life sucks because of it, and it affects the whole like a rank odour fills a room.

Your attempts to succeed with women are an attempt to validate your own existence, to justify the endless hours of learning seduction theories, reading the books of so-called experts, and memorising canned line after canned line.

My own existance is already validated from God. No further validation is necessary. However, my issue, seems to lie in this specific sector of life.

From what I have read about you from your posts, it sounds like you have spend well over a decade in your fruitless pursuits of women. Was it not towards the end of high school that you began to develop repeated oneitis' which only resulted in your grades slipping and your ambitions suffering?

Second year University, something went wrong. The oneitis issues are due to the fact, subject girls were never 'asked out' or 'closed', just secretly infatuated with. I underestimated the scope of the problem of the time, and do not know why I didn't commit myself to any counciling service or talk to anyone about these types of feelings - to ensure grades weren't tied up with it.

Today, now in your thirties, you work in a job that barely keeps you afloat financially, you still live with your parents, a significant amount of your time is spent trying to associate yourself with women with only the slightest of actual contact, and there doesn't seem to be any hint of any of this changing any time soon for you. What is truly saddening about your situation is not that you cannot connect with a woman in any real sense of the word, it is that you have been practically throwing your life away and not trying to make something of yourself - and you almost seem oblivious to it.

I am trying to make something of myself, and will agree that matters of self-improvement should take precedents over spending time sarging and stuff like that. Obviously, work or business should have priority over sarging or bootcamps. If there is really nothing to do, business wise, then sure, this bootcamp should occur.

This bootcamp you are running is the perfect example of what I am getting at here. Are you seriously suggesting that guys here should willingly go out and spend several hours of their time just to stare at women and see how many times they can say "hi" to them?

You have not read the bootcamp instructions accurately.

Right now, bootcamp assignment is to go to coffee shops and look at people at the corner of their eyes and scope for IOI's. Do not see any problem with that.

An inch of time is worth an inch of gold, but you can never buy back an inch of time with an inch of gold. With so many things to see, learn and experience in this world, how can you possibly justify something like this? No amount success with women, in any way, shape or form, can ever be a better thing than using that time to become the best possible man that you can be!

I agree with what Tyler Durden says in the Real Social Dynamics site. If you dont have this area of life handled, then no matter what you do, it's always a problem, so we all have to deal with it. Therefore every inch of the time with the same problem cant be brought back, so you have to handle it. For newbies, bootcamps are great concepts to do just that.

Yet through it all, no matter how many women you meet and go on "priming dates" or "seduction dates" or whatever else you are calling them, they do not seem to stick around for very long.

All except one. Not many women have 'right attitudes' either. What's the score here, they say out of every 20 meetings, you may meet 3 women who jive with you, and one of three may have the right attitude to make it work, right? It's difficult to find people who are sincere and who have the right attitudes. The one girl that has stuck has seemed to accept me both with and without canned lines, and I'm sure there are others too.

This, in itself, should show you that your real problem is not with attracting women initially.

Yes it is. Hence bootcamp is necessary. Too many outing reports, fvck up reports where approaches on hb's are not done.
And you have to be confident to approach many different types of women in different situations. This 'attracting women' initially here, was mainly online, and through referrals, so it really is not the same as this bootcamp is directed on.

This is WHY I have always been a strong advocate of being a real man instead of the petty, short-termed seduction tactics that so many other guys advocate throughout life. For not only will it arouse a woman's attention in you like nothing you have ever seen before, it is guaranteed to make you more confident in yourself and assure that your life is not a waste.

I'm afraid Tyler Durden makes allot of sence. If you master approaches, then you wont have to think about it, you've handled an area of life that's been a problem, and you'll naturally do better in other areas because you no longer have that pebble on your shoe or thorn on side.

You will go through life like a starving man, even if you try to improve yourself, the motivations will always be wrong if you dont get this area of life properly handled. That's one of the reasons University flopped - if I had the area of life with women handled since high-school, or during that time, stuff like that would not have happened as I'd basically focus on approaching many women and not focus on any particular person, and certainly I'd close them even if it c&b, because better you get to bottom one time then stringing yourself along. Bootcamps, in that sence are even theruputic, and should be a must for everyone who has issues approaching women.

I can ALWAYS say that the women who slipped from my life, had the wrong attitudes anyway, and I need to only have women in my life who are very understanding, have the right spirit and attitudes, so the blame game on why things fall apart is a two-way street. Let's look at the stats here anyway, people online one offline, over 29 y/o, have been burned in the past by bad relationships, have baggage, whatever.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke - I've read your posts and while I commend you for the effort, I think you may just be over-analyzing everything. Keep it simple. See a girl you like and go say hi. You might get better results. Staring at them just creeps them out.

That's in the future of this bootcamp by a few days. Step by step.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

After giving some thought to the idea of living on my own in a 'less than ideal' situation, I have come across a website known as craiglist that shows places that could be rented for as low as the $ 300-400 range per month (room only of course/roomate), or $ 32.00 per day (min. 3 nights) for cheapest type of arrangements. However, that doesn't factor food or other expenses that would come up in a month. The concept of living on my own does sound a bit cool, and even if I could stay away for 3 nights sometime on my own, that would seem like a vacation within itself from my folks. In the meantime, I'm still hoping to perfect my career in Real-Estate with the hopes a different office combined with a hard effort will lead to the type of lifestyle that I would like (i.e. my own condo, convertable, and travelling).

So, to those who have tried posting about this 'self-improvement' in particularly dealing with my living situation, I am taking this advise seriously, but with a grain of salt. I haven't considered 'working abroad', but I had a friend who tried that before.

It's unlikely this can be pursued in the immediate future as I have to go to Italy, but it is certainly an idea that may be investigated later. For example, if I were doing an f-close with a girl living with her parents or something, well, that's one concept of isolation. If I can stay away from my parents on a night or for a few nights, without being accountible for them, then even that in itself would seem to be some progress. Also know a client who may be open to renting some of their properties and are aware I'm living with folks.

I haven't heard anyone else's reports of their own bootcamps, or how they are doing.

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Disclaimer: when f-closes are mentioned on any of my posts, it means 'opportunity to f-close', but doesn't necessarily mean anything will happen.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Family get together on civic holiday. Attractive cousin visiting (first time meeting her). Took photo shoot of her sitting next to me. Intend to keep that to file as part of social proof. This was my older cousin. I didn't get a photo shoot next to my yonger cousin - oh well. She told me that Italy is a great place for clubbing and strongly advised that I visit some clubs when I go to Italy later this month. Very productive bootcamp day with my own family. Keeping photos on file should I open a myspace account, or go back into internet dating later in the fall as part of the picture portfolio.

Digital camera in the event, also helped me break the ice. My cousin did a photo shoot hugging me, and putting hands together. It's a great way to break the ice, and good practise asking someone to do a photo shoot and getting a postive response. Very good progress today.

Ok, let's try this again tommorow. Plan to go to Casey's Bar and Grill, or some classy coffee shop with my laptop computer and my LSAT study guide, and hang-out with myself, and scope for any targets at strategic times.

 

[The_411]

My own existance is already validated from God. No further validation is necessary. However, my issue, seems to lie in this specific sector of life.

If you have that strong a connection with "God" why not use it to further your own spiritual strength? And if you have validation from an etheral entity that seems to hold the most weight why you would need validation from someone else?

 

[BluEyes]

[ROBOT VOICE]

" I. AM. LUKE. SKY-WALKER.. I. IDENTIFY. WOMEN. AS. TARGETS. AND. PLAN. TO. TAKE. STRATEGIC. ACTION. IN. THE. NEAR. FUTURE.. I. GO. TO. TARGET.-RICH.-ENVIRONMENTS. WITH. MY. TACTICAL. SCOPE. AND. OBSERVE. TARGETS. FROM. SAFE. DISTANCE. OUT. OF. MY. PERIPHERAL. LASER. VISION..

Attractive cousin visiting (first time meeting her). Took [creepy] photo shoot of her sitting next to me. Intend to keep that to file as part of social proof. This was my older cousin. I didn't get a photo shoot next to my yonger cousin - oh well.

I. TAKE. PICTURES. OF. MY. ATTRACTIVE. COUSINS. BECAUSE. I. CAN'T. GET. NONE.
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Congrats buddy, your on the road to success. Keep it up!

 

[Luke Skywalker]

If you have that strong a connection with "God" why not use it to further your own spiritual strength? And if you have validation from an etheral entity that seems to hold the most weight why you would need validation from someone else?

And what makes you think I need validation from someone else?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Well, the eye-locking idea seems to be paying off. I used to have this little phobia about looking at women in their eyes, and I used to break out from them, and I'm no longer afraid of maintaining contact.

What most women do is check what is there and go back into their own worlds when you are passing them, or having any eye contact with them, no big deal. My mind feels much more free and I'm no longer intimidated by looking at women in their eyes, as I know they are usually scanning to see if they know me, or just who is there before retreating back in their own little world. No big deal. This further reinforces the belief that nobody is looking or thinking about me when I'm going out in public and that in itself is empowering to anyone with social anxiety.

 

[pooparu]

Luke, first off, you want women to look back at you, not to look away, its a great feeling to see a woman's eyes meet yours and KNOW that somewhere in her mind she's running a fantasy,w hether good or bad in her head about you two, it's that kind of instant rapport that makesb eing a human so fulfilling over being a simple animal that follows instinct.

Secondly, Tyler Durden is a tool luke, most of them aren't really happy with their lives, and they do a ton of shady business tactics. Are these the guys you want to learn from?

When you master being a real man, women will come, Luke trust me, I've been in this situation before like you, where I heard what was being said, but I always said, "well great, I'll get to that after I've got some skills under my belt so I can be prepared", the truth is, you WON'T be prepared until you master yourself.

You must master your mind, and learn to live with and embrace every emotion, seemingly positive or negative, and then ultimately come to the realization, that every e motion must be positive, because we are the only ones (that we know of), that experience these crazy feelings, it allows us to know we are alive and human. Fear, sadness, pain, happiness, joy, ecstacy, all are ways that communicate to otehrs that are spirits are in tact, those that try to eliminate these become hollow, broken souls, weak and tattered, do not become like that.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke, first off, you want women to look back at you, not to look away, its a great feeling to see a woman's eyes meet yours and KNOW that somewhere in her mind she's running a fantasy,w hether good or bad in her head about you two, it's that kind of instant rapport that makesb eing a human so fulfilling over being a simple animal that follows instinct.

Ok. I'll keep that in mind - but I find moving or busy targets are unlikely to give out IOI's.

Secondly, Tyler Durden is a tool luke, most of them aren't really happy with their lives, and they do a ton of shady business tactics. Are these the guys you want to learn from?

I like his adolescent style and approach and think he makes approaches and seduction fun and playful. I've even seen some elements of this on Juggler's newbie mission concepts.

When you master being a real man, women will come, Luke trust me, I've been in this situation before like you, where I heard what was being said, but I always said, "well great, I'll get to that after I've got some skills under my belt so I can be prepared", the truth is, you WON'T be prepared until you master yourself.

You must master your mind, and learn to live with and embrace every emotion, seemingly positive or negative, and then ultimately come to the realization, that every e motion must be positive, because we are the only ones (that we know of), that experience these crazy feelings, it allows us to know we are alive and human. Fear, sadness, pain, happiness, joy, ecstacy, all are ways that communicate to otehrs that are spirits are in tact, those that try to eliminate these become hollow, broken souls, weak and tattered, do not become like that.

Ok, will keep that in mind with this bootcamp, which as I'm going through this bootcamp, will naturally come to this realisation anyway as I start getting used to approaches. Right now I'm still focusing on eye contact and reading IOI's. I appreciate your feed-back, and I always consider and most of the time respond to good feed-back, whether I agree or disagree with it, to show that I've 'processed it', and sometimes it clicks later.

Well.....let's see how far into this bootcamp I can go today.

 

[The_411]

And what makes you think I need validation from someone else?

Bingo that's the whole point you don't and yet you are seeking it through your "bootcamp"

being able to attract ladies has to do with self-reliance and a belief in self. The bootcamp is used to illustrate this concept so you can understand that this is the messsage.


You're taking things to seriously and being too inflexible. IT doesn't matter how many women you cna or can't attract if you're not happy with yourself because casual or ltr with womne cannot mask inner strife.

 

[ApC23]

so is this whole week going to be eye contact?....

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Week One of Bootcamps, on this site in general are geared towards eye-contact and scoping around. I wanted to advance to approaching and saying 'hi', or even direct openers, however, I still want to try various 'relaxed atmosphere venues' for my own curiosity, like Starbucks, or a mall food court, a place where people tend to relax and unwind, and practise EC there, or peripheral vision to see if someone is looking at you at the corner of the eye. There are simply lots of places and exercises just using the eyes so that's why my pace seems to be there.

Tommorow morning, for example, I'm thinking of going to Starbucks like at 9:00 am, where they have an internet connection, and simply scope it out.
That's the level I'm at. If you are beyond the EC level, or then you can try 'mock' approaches.

'Mock' approaches means you simply go up to a target, as you would to talk to her or get her attention, but you dive into some other excuse to rationalise what you are doing so your approach remains ambigious to the target, if you get an IOI, then you can go for the kill, if you dont get an IOI, then you can pretend to do something else. If you are feeling more gutsy, you can just walk up to a target and stand there, and wait for her to say 'hi' to you first, or walk infront of her. So, there are various non-verbal exercises that are still on agenda.

We will be progressing to the Svangeli mission phase soon, saying 'hi' approaches randomly, having a random survey prop (bill board, pen and paper with a ridocolous survey question), and other cool stuff.

Let me know how your going in this phase.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Bingo that's the whole point you don't and yet you are seeking it through your "bootcamp"

That's a ludicrous point, this is a DJ board, and I've never been on a bootcamp since I've joined, while everyone who is taking this board 'seriously' has. Trying to question 'motivations' about having a bootcamp is as silly as question motivations for being on this board in the first place. You may as well say all members of this board are seeking validation, and that includes you too.

being able to attract ladies has to do with self-reliance and a belief in self. The bootcamp is used to illustrate this concept so you can understand that this is the messsage.

Good. I dont know what the point is, but I'm exercising it anyway because I'm a member of this board, right, and should benefit from all the resources on this board, including bootcamps.

You're taking things to seriously and being too inflexible. IT doesn't matter how many women you cna or can't attract if you're not happy with yourself because casual or ltr with womne cannot mask inner strife.

But there is no inner strife. It's very easy, without proper discipline for this bootcamp to fall through the cracks, however, when I start something, I finished it, even if I'm having a challenging time in the interim, or at least I try to. This bootcamp started, and will finish as planned. Resistance is futile as the agenda will proceed until it's conclusion. Then, such discussions will be more fruitful. However, your role here, seems to be questioning the motivation of the bootcamp, or undermining it in some way, so, even if what you were saying were right, it is deemed as a distraction to the goal of agenda which will conclude hopefully next week or the third week.

I hope the adherents to my bootcamp share the same resolve I do to complete it this time.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Today's journal.

Went to Casey's Bar and Grill. Only the hired-guns seemed to be attractive, however, I noticed one hired-gun the most, and she was an hb(SEAsian) -
hb - South East Asians shall be abbreviated HBSEA.

My mind of course was fixated on an oneitis I have with another girl through, she was on my mind all the time, which sort of hindered the efforts of even eye contact, showing a strong oneitis issue. Like the girl of my oneitis will read my thoughts and get jealous and possibly sence what I'm doing. Very strong oneitis grip seems to be manifesting on a girl I see about once a month or couple of months who has other guy friends. Don't understand myself.

I seem to have 'connected' with the HBSEA for some reason. My laptop was giving problems and she tried to help me out. This may have been a good opportunity for a Direct Approach followed with a number close, but at the time I didnt' think of it as I was preoccupied of why my laptop wasn't working. Since the bootcamp phase deals with eye contact - there is no pressure to go further than what is required if I dont want to, especially if another girl is on my mind. Well, had a nice expensive meal all by myself, oh well, the food was good at least, these bootcamps give me an excuse to treat myself out.

I feel like I would be taking advantage of her if I direct closed her and asked for her number with her trying to fix my laptop, so I wasn't comfortable with it. Perhpas, I have yet to go with the Gunwitch idea of being comfortable with my sexuality. A direct approach never takes advantage of anyone, but if I groped her while she bent over to fix my lap-top, then that's taking 'advantage' of a situation. Direct approach - number close -- good. Groping -- bad. Learn difference. Direct approach can not take advantage of anyone, you are just using a natural prop.

On next week's bootcamps, direct approach - number closes followed by 'hi's would certainly be played with.

Walked around the mall afterwards and sat down - zero IOI's, but I saw the same HBI (I = Indian/Cinnamon skin complexion) working at the bookstore and just saw her around.

When you are walking randomly in a mall, it's very, very difficult to just approach anyone, because you'd be going like a maniac approaching everyone that is walking past you. You have to select targets, or scope for any chemistry that you feel, or any interest you feel with a specific person, and then work with it - try the 3 second rule, or some other approach.

If you feel any 'connection' of any form with anyone, or some character in the scene keeps poping out over the others for some reason - then it may be a good idea to practise on her, even if you are not totally interested in her at the time.

Went to Future Shop after the mall to repair my laptop computer, and saw hb's scattered, saw an MILFSEA that seemed to be giving IOI's to me, although I discounted them at first, but when I was staring at her, the IOI's went away. However, I'm glad I didn't approach because, she was really an MILF, as her daughter came by. Go figure.

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Casey's Bar and Grill is difficult to navigate around and scope for IOI's, other than the hired-guns, it seems that you are fixed to one table, and cant move around the place with ease to scope around, unless you are pretending to go to the washroom. Again, this is an 'ambigious' action, you scope around, you see an IOI great, otherwise, go back to chair, or go to washroom, whatever if you feel a rationale of scoping - which can happen if people are staring at your movements.

I may see how a 'Starbucks' or small restaurant environment will fare. EC may be followed with a smile in some cases.

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Eye contact time to date -- Saturday - 30 minutes.
Sun/Mon - 0 minutes.
Tuesday - 30 minutes.

One hour remaining in dedicated eye-contact experiments before mock approaches start. Hopefully, I'll just do that hour tommorow and start working on some mock approaches or 'ambigious expressions of interest'.

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[Quiksilver]

ARE there any adherents to your bootcamp?

Read the bootcamps of some of the other people who have achieved success. You'll notice how theirs is less formulaic and is not as elementary.

When you're having an easy and relaxed conversation with a friend or anybody familiar to you, you'll notice that there are no strict guidelines and paths to follow within the conversation. The purpose of a bootcamp is ultimately to be able to adapt the same mindset you have when communicating with a close friend, over to communicating with an unfamiliar lady.

I'll tell you this my friend, because it is in your best interest whether you know it or not: You should be treating every encounter and subsequent conversation with(as you say) a 'target' as a spontaneous and an exciting adventure.

Not

Not as an over-calculated theoretical analysis where you all but take their blood type in looking for a proper 'candidate' to approach.

In short: From what I've read of your bootcamp, your whole approach method is grounded on your fear of rejection. Instead you should be trying to break down your fear of rejection talking to anybody, rather than trying to develop approaches that work with your fear.

Read Contender's bootcamp and take some notes on it.

Good luck

 

[Luke Skywalker]

When you're having an easy and relaxed conversation with a friend or anybody familiar to you, you'll notice that there are no strict guidelines and paths to follow within the conversation. The purpose of a bootcamp is ultimately to be able to adapt the same mindset you have when communicating with a close friend, over to communicating with an unfamiliar lady.

This is first week bootcamp, convo's are not a goal in the first week, that is jumping the gun.

I'll tell you this my friend, because it is in your best interest whether you know it or not: You should be treating every encounter and subsequent conversation with(as you say) a 'target' as a spontaneous and an exciting adventure.

Again, this is first week bootcamp, which, may include randomly saying 'hi' to everyone like a maniac later.

In short: From what I've read of your bootcamp, your whole approach method is grounded on your fear of rejection. Instead you should be trying to break down your fear of rejection talking to anybody, rather than trying to develop approaches that work with your fear.

Read Contender's bootcamp and take some notes on it.

Sure, guess I'll have to find it on the search mode.

Right now, I'm sending my stealth spy planes prior to the Invasion, the Invasion of the 'Hi's' will occur pretty soon.

It's not based on 'fear of rejection' at all - I'm visiting many places, and going out of my comfort zone. That's something in itself.
I'm looking around, scoping around, and thus, getting more comfortable before we start with the challenging stuff.