The Great Debate: Can a "DJ" get any girl?

[cestmoi]

Originally posted by MysteryWoman
Well it must be an American thing then, women being more likely to commite suicide after a divorce than men. I haven't heard of this happening much in England. Not an insult, but I don't think English women are as materialistic as American women (some are), but I don't think anyone here would be that forward enough to ask how much a guy earns on the first date or before they decide to go out with them.

I think Leil Lowndes must have been covering marriage as well, as it is usually women who initiate divorce.

Why do you call yourself Pook? What does it signify

I ussually agree with your views mystery, but you don't seem to really be flexing that thinking muscle on this one. You just seem to stick with what you've come to know thru your upbringing. Are American women more materialistic? Maybe they are just a bit more direct about it. But some of these stuff are deeply inside women's genes. And its true worldwide. The human nature is one and the same everywhere, but with it being painted differently by different cultures.

Since you love to refer to Leil Lowndes, read the part where she speaks about why women are attracted to materialistic advantages. She tries to convince guys to something along the lines of:

"Guys, its not their fault, its not that they conciosly seek out rich men (some do and they are golddiggers), its in their genes. See when millenias ago cave women had to seek men they had to get a protector, a powerfull masculine man to defend them, so that translates to power & wealth today"

This is how I remember the part, the actual quote could be quite different in the wording, but this is basically the essence of it.

So unless women in England are biologically different from those in America they hardly are different in this aspect either. Its just that their enviroment trained them differenly in the way the display it.

 

[ShortTimer]

oh nevermind, what's the point?

 

[icepick]

Originally posted by Pook
I'm not a 'perfect' 10. It is not so much how you look but how your looks exude personality. Which gets more attention? A nice haircut or spiked hair? Why? Because the spiked hair (leather jacket) and even muscles signifies a personality about the person.

I remember one woman hating guys who work out: "They should not work out if they are not sportive. It gives girls the wrong impression." Too many girls view personality through looks.

I was just kidding about the '10' stuff. All I know, is that there is no way in HELL, no matter WHAT I wear, that I would be paraded around like a trophy! But then again, I don't go after the girls that stare at me, I go after the girls that are semi-shy/feminine acting (I think that is the best way to explain it, but it is hard to explain...)

Anyway, I was just trying to espouse my opinion that there are TWO sides to the "game" or whatever. LOOKS and SEXUALITY.

By LOOKS I mean things like bone structure in the face, symmetry, whatever. A girl with LOOKS (and little sexuality) would be beautiful, BUT you would NOT really be that attracted to her. A person is BORN with looks, and IMO it really cannot be changed. You really can't change your bone structure in your face, regardless of physical fitness.

I use celebrities (because you guys don't know the same people that I do, obviously) but Julia Roberts would be a good example of this type. Many models would also fit here.

I used to be fooled into liking these types of girls, but it is a TRICK!!! They might LOOK like they should be sexy, but they are not. (Of course not, pretty and sexy are two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS!)

Sometimes we get caught, thinking "Wow, she is really pretty, I want her!"

It is my opinion, that this type of thinking is ultimately DESTRUCTIVE. For the best relationships, we should be DRAWN to her by forces beyond our control almost. NOT because we think, "She is pretty, therefore, I will go for her."

Sexuality, as we all know, IS this force. These are the girls that are hot, the ones that you are just attracted to. You may call her pretty or whatever to justify your attraction, but that does not quite explain it.

You can almost size a girl up on how much LOOKS and SEXUALITY she has. Usually, if a girl is really sexy, she will not be a slouch in the looks department. Many times, the LOOKS girls (the pretty types) aren't sexual for some reason. Maybe it has something to do with the cutting figure, smart genes, i dunno.

Most people will take action on LOOKS. (Like that story on the main page about that guy getting hit on at the church.) Sexuality is much more subtle. People may get nervous and not follow through.

I am rambling on here, I need sleep. Lemme get to my point.

Only go after girls that like you for your sexuality, NOT for your looks. Looks are like money, a prize to be won. (No wonder you get treated like a trophy, your looks are held up as "look at this genetic specimin that I won!")

One last point,

I think that looks (not MY defined "LOOKS", but looks in the common sense) ARE actually personality. People that look like other people, ACT alike, and seem like they think alike!

I can group together all of the people that I know into certain personality groups, and they all end up looking and acting alike.

The little quirks that your face makes give away almost every thought that goes through your mind, and I think people sense this. It may be MISINTERPRETED sometimes, but the COMMUNICATION is still there.

I could go on like this forever, but I'll save the gory details for later ramblings...

 

[Deep Dish]

For the past few weeks I've been working on an essay (tentatively) called "The Book of Woman" and is my full 5,600 (as of right now) word response to the relation of women and society. Full of quotes, passages, and witticisms. It is the single longest piece of prose ever have I composed, and as to impact of my life, the most profound.

Keep an eye out for it. It will answer everything I could ever possibly answer to this thread, though when will I finish it I have no idea.

 

[CLOONEY]

NO, sometimes your personality just doesnt click, and if the spark is not there it is not there. Your sense of humor is different sometimes. A great looking guy has a BETTER chance, and if he has skillz he has a real good chance, although he still cant get ANY girl. NOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY!!! And if anyone says they can............their full of sh*t!

 

[Ronin I]

No.

 

[cestmoi]

Originally posted by icepick

Only go after girls that like you for your sexuality, NOT for your looks.

How do you make the difference?

 

[DjDreamer]

Can there be a Don Juan the Elephant man?

Let's ask a confident hedious fellow at a social gathering to see what he thinks about this idea...

DjDreamer: Hello sir, I'm representing a seduction magazine, can I ask you a couple questions?
Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan: sure
DjDreamer: how do you feel?
Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan: I feel wonderful, I'm surrounded by beautiful women and I have plenty money in the bank
DjDreamer: do you feel you will be intimate with any of these ladies tonight?
Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan: hmmm (swirls drink) I'm afraid I've only been intimate with hookers but what woman here doesn't want to experience wit, courage and mystery? My facial deformity is only extending the time period of one of these fine ladies obtaining the prize which is me
DjDreamer: did the hookers enjoy your company?
Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan:oh yes, I provided challenge, their vomiting stopped and their face lite up when I provided them with the money for their services
DjDreamer: do you plan to one day settle down and start a family?
Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan:: most definitely: I believe strongly in family values, the thing is before all of that is done I have to wait for one of these women to become more open minded, it takes time, like I said before what women doesn't appreciate wit, courage and mystery?
DjDreamer: well sir, it has been a splendid conversation and I must say you have given a lot of hope to all the non deformed shy guys of the world, thank you for your time

Let's ask a woman what she thinks about him

DjDreamer: excuse me miss, would you mind answering some questions? This is for seduction magasine.
A woman: No problem
how are you feeling tonight?
A woman: oh I'm feeling terrific
DjDreamer: I'm feeling terrific as well...you know... isn't it nice when a guy and a girl are feeling mutual moods at moonlight...eh, this isn't about you and me let me proceed with my questions
A woman: ok
DjDreamer: I'll point at someone I would like to know your feelings on that person, what do you think about him? (points at Mr. looks like an elephant but thinks like a don juan)
A woman: oh my god what is that? Yuck! Is there a freakshow in town?
DjDreamer: so you don't like what you see?
A woman: no!
DjDreamer: what if he has a pleasing personality, would you be intimate with him?
A woman: I'm not a crack addicted hooker. I have standards. he might be an excellent conversationalist but the idea of waken up to that face sickens me
DjDreamer: you have been helpful in this survey, thank you for your time
A woman: Alright...eh...so you're finished working? do you wanna have some more mutual feelings together?
DjDreamer:

Well that's all folks, the moral of this story is guys who look like Elephants but think like Don Juans can't get all women...theoretically of course..

 

[Bonhomme]

I remember one woman hating guys who work out: "They should not work out if they are not sportive. It gives girls the wrong impression."

If that's not the most bassackwards thing. Even more absurd than the premise of this very thread. I'd bet these same girls would not be attracted to a man who lets the opinions of women dictate his every action.

There are many women who isolate themselves like that: wanting a guy to make his life revolve around her, but losing her attraction for the poor sap when he does just that.

Such women are best left alone. Not even LJBF'd. They tend not to make good friends, much less lovers.

 

[icepick]

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Sometimes, I confuse even myself...

 

[cestmoi]

Originally posted by icepick

Don't know you understand me now better than when I started this post, but I said my piece.

I do understand your opinion since I have the same and agree 100% completely, but I don't understand the way you judge girls' perceptions of you. But I guess its an individual thing. And thanks for the examples I think they will help many newbies.

 

[SamePendo]

A DJ cannot get any girl.

A DJ cant, a SS can.
SS morphs you into what she wants. But if you act like your natural self (a DJ), many many women wont find you attractive.
Like ice cream, lets take strawberry ice cream and chocolate icecream. Many people wont like chocolate, that doesnt make chocolate bad, it is just a matter of taste. Ultimately you must look for someone who likes to eat you, and you like her to eat you, and suck you too ....
This matter is the subject of What being a DJ brings

 

[djbr]

bump

 

[BuckwildNYC]

I know a guy who is attractive and well built, he's a bouncer at a club. I found out from a girl that knows him well that he hasn't had ass in a year. Not that he doesn't try but he keeps getting put in the friend zone by chicks. She says he 's way too nice and supplicating and girls just use him for dinners and favors. How could you be a good-looking guy working at a club and not get any ass...............UNATTRACTIVE PERSONALITY.

I also know a bartender who is a very attractive girl who works in a place that I hang out.. There was this guy there one night and for every round of drinks that he bought for his boys, he gave her a 50 dollar tip. He was well dressed and had on a nice watch. He tried all night to pick her up. By the end of the night he didn't even get her number. She was like "no offence but you can't buy my love.........." So how could a well dressed guy, not ugly, with money, not get the girl...................UNATTRACTIVE PERSONALITY

I know another kid who came into a lot of money through a settlement. He went out and bought a brand new Navigator with blinged out rims and the works. He had the clothes and the money too. I swear in 3 years I don't think I EVER saw him with a chick. Not in his car, not in a club, not ever. Granted he wasn't the best looking guy on the planet but his real problem was that he was shy around girls and had no game. Bottom line............UNATTRACTIVE PERSONALITY

So there you have it..................one guy had looks, one had looks and money, and the other just had money and they still weren't pulling chicks. That shows you that PERSONALITY is the most important thing. Of course girls like money and looks, but you can easily erase all your positives if you don't have an ATTRACTIVE PERSONALITY.

Ever hear girls talk about some hot guys "he's cute but he's all into himself", or "he's hot but he's a playa", or "he's too big, I don't like TOO many muscles"

Ever hear girls talk about guys with money "all he does is work all day, he never has time for me", or "all he does is talk about himself and all his money", or "he offered to take me on a trip to the bahamas, and I just met him, that's creepy"

Stop making excuses guys. Looks and money aren't everything....................

 

[jack knife]

This isn't an important question.

Even if there were a girl that was particularly difficult or hard to attract, the DJ would move on and stop wasting time. Even if he could, after much time spent, get the girl, it probably wouldn't be worth it in the end.

And like people have said. Being a DJ isn't about the girl, but about the guy.

 

[Socialreject]

No he can't get me, unless I want him because I will be able to see through his games (this board gives me power), as will other girls who come to this site.

That is a stupid thing to say...

A true DJ doesn't play games, he is just his self. It's like taking a napkin, wiping off all the years of useless knowledge and self imposed, but ultimately wrong ideas and just starting over with some more positive beliefs...

There is no game, there are no tricks, there is only a guy and his personality coupled with his potential.

What games? If you misbehave or run game on me i bust you on it or walk away because i just can't be arsed to do anything else. Don't like it well hmmm.. to bad, i guess i'll have to try my luck with those 3 billion other women ;-).

There have been plenty of guys who come on here and say "being a DJ will not get you all the women". So what?! Being a DJ will get you SOME women, and most importantly it will get you the women you want and not the ones you 'settle' for. That's what it's really all about. As long as it's still all about women you just don't 'get it'.

As to the original question. There is no logical answer because it's beside the point. to that I'd like to add that while looks aren't everything, they are most certainly 'something'. So yes it does matter how good you look. So no, he can't get "any woman" and the man who claims that he can is full of sh!t!!

 

[edger]

Take a look at the couple on the left in this pic. This dude is below avg.-looking and his woman in my opinion is hot. Look at more of their pictures in their album and you'll see even more how ugly the dude is. This is what I see a lot out there: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...2687422&imageUserID=95277270&imageID=17150612

Here's another of the same couple: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...endID=52687422&albumID=767237&imageID=1646591

I'm happy that the guy was able to land such a f*ckable, hot wife. Thankfully for men, bad looks doesn't disqualify you in the mating game.